Build your own plane with a kit, then learn on it and get a license. Cheapest way I can imagine being an actual pilot, about storing it you need to pick a rural airfield with no ATC, maybe not even paved to save on costs.
@MrDoomFinder I'd only trust a plane I build and maintain, consequently why most aircraft techs are afraid to fly 😂 The airframe of the kit you're buying must be well tested though, that's the only thing to look out for.
I was a bit scared looking into this pricing but coming from the world of sim racing and spending in the realm of $1500 just on my direct drive racing wheel alone I’m actually relieved at the price of the Saitek setup. I think I’m gonna make a dedicated setup for flight. Being able to fly anywhere on the planet in Microsoft’s new sim looks absolutely amazing.
@@generic_4938 Of course, it's all personal preference. I love VR, and can't get nearly the same level of immersion out of a flat screen as I can in VR. But to each their own. I respect everyone's opinion.
That's the thing, you're not buying a controller for a game you are investing in yourself. If i recall you have to have so many hours on a sim before you're even allowed to step foot in a cockpit for real (unassisted/with no teacher), so those setups might be from people actually striving to become airline pilots or flying in the military and given the current state of the world right now it's actually a valid thing to do. But yes it's something that mere mortals can only dream of
I've had a Black Widow for years. It is still the smoothest set up that I've got. I've also got a Sitec set up Yoke, quadrant and pedals. While more immersive I find that the yoke has a large null zone. Yeah, flying chair thing, awesome.
I got the thrust master t flight hotas 1. I find it to be a good budget controller for this. Always nice when you see it instantly recognized and auto configured for the game 🙂
I've had my CH fighter stick, pro throttle and pro pedals since 2013. Just ordered a honeycomb yoke. Can't wait. I highly recommend CH as budget items. They are rugged and work with ease.
I have fond memories of sitting in my uncles basement for hours and hours playing Microsoft flight sim. Way back in 2006 he had a Microsoft flight stick it wasn’t anything crazy but flying from Seattle to Boston in first person looking around at the age of 7 was amazing. I got out of the flight sim game for years after sadly never knew why. Now with my dream pc built I plan on coming back and making that trek again Seattle to Boston for nostalgia alone. Gonna pick use a controller at first. Cause pandemic is making it hard for me to find a good budget joystick in the states right now.
I know it’s mainly a combat joystick/throttle, but I just bought myself the T-flight hotas one which is £70 and I find it great(it’s throttle and joystick) I didn’t really have a choice though because it’s the only one certified to work with Xbox.
“That guy” should have bought himself a small old car gutted it ( one that had been in a front end smash and written off since you would be chopping the front off at the firewall anyway ) completely refitted it with modular components and then mounted the cockpit on his moving rig. Along with replacing the Windows with monitors of course,
I just bought a warthog, some Thrustmaster T flight pedals, and oculus rift s. First time playing flight sim. This warthog is insane, definately just buy it. First time playing a flight sim for me. Want a good experience.
Excellent overview. I've got both a Saitek Yoke with panel setup along with the X52 Hotas joystick. Both of those are really good pieces of kit but the funny thing is that I use my good old Logitech Extreme 3D pro most of the time! It is a fantastic cheaper option with a ton of programmable buttons.
Yep Got my Acer predator triton 500 laptop yesterday and instantly downloaded it and I’ve just crashed for the 20th time and can’t land yet but so immersive and addictive. Enjoying the learning as I’m an FPS gamer but look forward to learning more
It's been years since I last played a Flight Simulator.. Even FS X I didn't play much.. I used to play Jet Fighter games (like F22 Lightning II, or F15, F117) and older versions of Flight Simulator, back in the day. Unfortunately my old (CH Products) Force FX F16 joystick, that I bought used back then, doesn't work properly nowadays. Specially because it's not USB so II have to use an USB to Gameport adapter... I could use a PS4 controller, just for fun, but , for example, I never played much Elite Dangerous because using a PS4 controller didn't feel "natural".. Too many buttons to map in weird places, no proper speed controls, etc.. Flight Simulator has a special place in my heart. My mother remembers the "white noise" sound of the turbines while I played it in our Living Room. I remember when I took off and landed a concord using only my keyboard when I was a child. Or when I landed a 747 on a field (also using Keyboards). I just bought an X52.. Was the best cost X benefit option for me at the moment, for any kind of set of joystick/yoke+ throttle controller.. All other options of Joysticks or Yokes were more expensive.. Fortunately I was able to find it, brand new, for around 30% less than anywhere else around here. I consider it as an "investment", but with all budget constraints considered. I hope I made a good choice..
Good luck getting any of these right now. I've been looking around online, and pretty much everything is sold out. Trying to play with keyboard is pretty much impossible, there is absolutely no way to ease into anything, makes learning an unpleasant experience.
I bought a few months ago the Thrustmaster Warthog. The quality and the feeling is so great! Its so heavy and it feels like you're really flying a plane! I also bought togheter the Thrustmaster T Flight Pedals. A few days ago I also bought the (Logitech G) Saitek Radio, Switch and Multi Panel. These Saitek panels are so nice. They are Very Cheap (70$, 80$ and about 90$) and for that you get a very realistic feeling.
Bought that Joystick last week, can't wait to use an ancient stick with the most advanced flight sim ever made 😅 I don't care though, all I wanna do is fly over Vegas and crash into me nans house. (Sorry Nan)
If it does still work, and it should, it works well with FS2020 with minimum set up. I prefer to use it with FS2020 instead of trying to set up my CH Yoke tbh. Flying something like the airbus 320neo it makes more sense to use a joystick to replicate the side stick and will be better when they eventually add helicopters to FS.
You totally should. I invested in a TM Hotas 4 for FSX. It still is going strong and hopefully will let me have tons of hours of fun like I had with FSX. You will not regret it.
I will be a new flight sim junkie only in MSafS 2020 has proper triple screen support! I have a very nice triple screen racing sim and will happily set it up for flight but only if I can get a not stretched image across the 3 screens! Hope to see you in the air.
@@SimUKReviews What name? its just what i am :p Sucks about the triples :( I wont buy it till it works , i cat imagine playing on a single 27" screen after my thousands of hours in triples for racing sims . #NoTriplesNoBuy
Haha. I got 12k in 737 320 and 330 just recently did my acrobatic on an Extra find myself here checking for gear to improve my 300 skills..thanks for the video
I am slowly but surely moving fron only ETS2/ATS trucking to flight sims again. currently waiting for my Thrustmaster TCA Officer Pack Airbus Edition to arrive . I have my G29 wheel and shifter as extra buttons if needed and basicly making keyboard less needed and pedals waiting to be replaced by actual flight sim pedals. For drone camera i have dualshock 4 . after that slowly building a home cockpit plan is to get an honeycomb Alpha flight controls for certain planes or go bat grazy and get Virtual Fly Yoko + ....... thats the dream at least
Very good quality video - nice one ..just pre ordered the airbus side stick/ throttles(well soon) and desk bracket and now don't know what to do with my Warthog set? and desk mounts, not even used them in anger yet but sometimes visual correctness is everything right!!!!! keep them coming..
I recently just sold my Saitek X-55, X-52 and bought the TCA Airbus pack. I will never use the buttons on the Warthog, but I would still love the precision and functionality of the HALL sensors, so it was a easy decision. I'll be buying the upgrade modules, speedbrakes and flaps when they come out. That combined with an 85" 4K TV will be beautiful. I mainly fly GA aircraft, but will use the PMDG 777 once it comes available.
I had a Saitek 35-t and 36-f set of controllers way back in the day. I thought they were great. Build quality was top notch, the ergonomics were fantastic (they wouldn't have been that good for people with medium to small hands) and the programming was usually easy for 95% of my games that benefited from such hardware. The software was above average and downloading updates was quick and easy. Time passes and Saitek releases the X-45 (stick and throttle). So I gave my old controllers away and got the X-45. Just a few physical changes and better software than my old set and the build quality was the same but...there was (in my opinion) a REdesign flaw, at the base of the stick. After using it during several intense online gaming sessions of Mechwarrior 4 (vengeance and mercenaries), the supporting area under the spring developed a large crack and this made the thing I was controlling drift to the right unless I pulled the stick straight up. That was no good. What I want is the 35t and 36f with the X-45 software. Is there anything even remotely similar to what I want out on the market?
Closest thing to that is the rhino x56. It is pretty good, but not perfect. The throttle is almost spot on (few small issues) and the joystick is very plastic and cheap, but perfectly functional (although it lacks smoothness you get with the thrustmaster sidestick). TBH there is a gap in the market for well built + reasonably priced devices.
Best setup for a civilian sim is virtual fly products.Pricey as hell but best feeling of all yoke and rudder controls.heck even the throttles are superb!
If you want to feel better about not having the gimbal.. He could only ever experience 1G "acceleration" Yes, that is 1G more than us, but still only 1G. Though depending on what motors he has, he could always spin the hell out of it.
This blew my mind (like I knew there was high end stuff but didn’t realise that high end) I saw a hori stick for Xbox one which will use on the series x (tbh this is one of the games I’m most looking forward too)
Just received the new Virpil Alpha stick/WarBRD base and their new MongoosT-50CM2 throttle. ...my first HOTAS and flight sim (will be MFS2020). I've never tried any HOTAS before this, but this is very nice indeed!
Microsoft should've supported VR from the start with hands recognition and that way you don't need extra hardware controls, you could just flip switches and sticks on the virtual cockpit. That's the ultimate immersion, to actually know how to use all the gear in the cockpit as in a real plane.
Great video. I´m still using my x52 HOTAS which I´m still happy with, but planning to get the Bravo Throttle Quadrant in addition. I thought about the Thrustmaster airbus quadrant, but prefer the Honeycomb device since it is more flexible in terms of setup. Anyway, let´s kneel down for Flight Simulator 2020 ;-)
Hope your Well Mike I bought Fishing Barents Sea a few days ago- really enjoying the chilled nature but this so needs VR support that would make it fantastically different. Looking forward to FS2020 and TSW 2 too many new Sim for August. Regards Rob aka Artful
VKB gladiator 2 good modular which can be enhanced on, I have this with X56 throttle unit and Logitech rudder pedals, the joystick is very precise. This allows lots of buttons to map the plethora of DCS commands
Bought me a Logitech Extreme 3D Pro last week. Feels great in the hand. Tried it out in Battlefield 1, but it sucks cuz its a dead game and I'm flying around in an empty server in Air Assault.
If you are unsure, try it for one month on MS Gamepass. Only costs £1. Standard Edition of FS2020 is included. From what I've seen, mouse+keyboard and also XBOX pad are well supported in the sim. That's the cheap route I'm going initially, just to see if my enthusiasm lasts before spending proper money.
I've got the Thrustmaster Flight Hotas One, haven't played Flight Simulator since FS X, dabbled with IL-2 Sturmovik over the years. Really looking forward to getting back into it now I have the PC to run it all at its best.
Currently using a Thrustmaster T.Flight HOTAS X along with a Logitech throttle quadrant, I plan on buying a Honeycomb yoke as well as the throttle quadrant, and either the Logitech or Thrustmaster rudder pedals to start. Also thinking of getting the Thrustmaster TCA Sidestick Airbus edition for aircraft that have a stick rather than a yoke as it uses Hall Effect sensors rather than potentiometers. I also plan on the Logitech Pro flight radio panel as well as Air Manager, which I'll use with either a second PC or possibly an Android tablet.
Nice vid 👌 I'm after a warthog hotas for Arma3, DCS & X-Plane. Saving my pennies 🙏🏾 always liked the buttkicker. I got the SIETEK Pro fight but gonna sell the Yoke, throttle and other units like Radio, autopilot & general avionics to fund the deal as I'm done with VRF flight.. Will keep the rudders tho
i'm with an xbox one controller and a Valve Index for when the VR version will be available! I was never a sim fan, but i pre-ordered MSFS 2020 since it looks fantastic, i will give it a try and if i see that i like it i may go for a Thrustmaster Hotas later in the year, if not, then MSFS 2020 will be another game in my "tried-but-didn't-like-it" list :D
I own the Yoko+, TQ6+, and some of the Saitek Pro Flight panels. They work really well with XPlane, and I’m hoping that MSFS will eventually equal XP in hardware support.
Waiting on my honeycome throttle quadrant coming, pre ordered last year. But I can recommend their yoke. also can recommend the crosswind rudder pedals had them for years and the thrustmaster warthog stick and throttle.
Waiting for that Airbus throttle. Currently have the VKB gladiator Mk2 but I would love to have a throttle perfect for MFS 2020 and perhaps IL 2 and Arma 3. Maybe DCS once I switch my brain on :)
Same here. I got the yoke, pedals, quadrants and a couple of panels for FSX on the pc that I haven't used in years. Would they be compatible with MSFS 2020 on the xbox one or are they strictly for the pc version?
The best controller set up is the one you have. If you don't have one, then the best one is the one you can afford. It is pretty simple. Sadly, flight simmers get raked over the coals on the price of many of these items. Mainly because they know most people who flight sim are adults.
Some of ya’ll need to go and do some real flying 😂😂🤦🏻♂️ I know it’s expensive though 😥 but seeing myself become a professional pilot after years of playing FS2004 and FSX as a child/teenager is so rewarding. Now, I can return to FS with this amazing 2020 version but with a different purpose: a tool to help my IFR scan and approach briefings, flow and checklist running and the likes. Especially during COVID lockdown when I can’t go out and do real flying 😒
I would say that a VR headset + controllers without any dedicated sim controllers is also a decent beginner setup that can easily scale up to more advanced configurations. It will likely not be supported right at launch, but MS said it will be supported at least on some headsets this year. You will lose the physical feedback, but you get to directly interact with any instruments in the cockpit with your hands, almost like having a 1:1 replica of the real cockpit in your room.
Yeah, but woudl be really nice to be able to switch to screen and controllers - mid flight. Without need to restart game. Would be nice to fly on screen, watch youtube and switch to VR for landing only.
I was thinking about getting Thrustmaster Flight SIM Thrustmaster T-Flight Full Kit (Xbox Serie X/S, one, and Turtle Beach VelocityOne Flight Universal Control System - Xbox Series X
I have an option. I will be buying my setup near the end of the year when I have money, but that does not matter. I will get a Honeycomb Yoke and a Honeycomb Throttle Quadrant too. Don’t know about the rudder yet.
Thank you ! I am thinking about getting the Thrustmaster 16000 three piece thingy, the one with joystick, rudderpedals and a throttle. A good start for msfs2020 ?
It is a really useful review - I do appreciate your comments. Of course, everyone has own preferences about yokes & joysticks. I finished to build a PC dedicated for MSFS and I want to finally start my advanture with this sim. I'm an airliner enthusiast, so I'd like to use TCA Thrustmaster Airbus Joystick, Seitek Pro rudder pedals and Honeycomb Bravo Throttle Quadrant - I know, it looks like a mix of the products, but after many reviews and opinions, it seems to be a good set to start. What do you think?
thanks for this vid. but i must say im still confused lol , yes i just picked up flight sim. but been into racing, ats/ets, farming sim. and have a full sim rig but its for driving. not sure were im going to put flght sim controls on this rig. see i dont know if i want a stick or yoke.. i may have to go with a stick for now as i just spent 1k on upgrades for this rig.
Nice rig. Simple way to answer this one... Do you want to fly combat or even space missions? If so, then HOTAS ALL the way, because it is the most versatile options by far. Otherwise you're specifically looking at a certain aircraft which uses a yoke and want that extra layer of realism.
Having a very difficult time getting my Saitek X52 Pro working correctly in MSFS 2020. First, I am a Real Pilot, Comm, Instr, Multi, FE. I have 2 flight sim computers that were built for me by a very great company in FL. I have been flying FSX for 7 years now with my Saitek X52 Pro with no issues. I have come to realize a huge difference between FSX and MSFS 2020 in that there is no VC, Virtual Cockpit in MSFS, rather all kinds of different camera angles and positions and very frustrating in trying to set these up. I have watched your tutorial in which I was able to improve the throttle movement, still has a slight twitch. I have watched several tutorials showing smooth movement around the inside of the cockpit and wonder what controller these folks are using. I would appreciate any help in this area. For now, I am back into my FSX Sim which works great. Regards, Asticou
I have the Saitek Pro Flight Yoke system with the throttle quadrant & pedals but haven’t used them since maybe 2010! I don’t have a PC anymore only laptops but may have to buy a gaming PC for Flight Sim 2020. It sucks that Xbox & PS4 aren’t compatible with Saitek yoke systems!
Great video, as usual, man. Thank you. Do you think that if I buy the TCA Airbus set then I might be a bit constrained once I use it to fly a prop? Can I use the two throttles to control power and mix? What about 3/4 engine planes? :) btw... THIS GUY... oh man :D
Ordered the Honey Comb Alpha and Beta. Still not sure about what padels though. Had the Saitek i was pretty happy with it so probably go back to it again. Also got the opencockpit mcp white digits. But sold everyting when i became a daddy.
I have the saitek/logitech pro flight set with multi, switch and radio panel and three flight instrument panels. I hope msfs2020 will support those panels
