Microsoft Flight Simulator | Kai Tak Airport Is Back! | 747-8 Checkerboard Approach 

Quite a few VOR beacons don't work properly in FS2020 - like DCS and OBA in the UK for example. No don't there are others. The software wasn't ready for release. Numerous errors

Good landing! I get the 'dont sink' voice warning only at KaiTak! (Same addon). Did you turn yours off somehow?

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106 approaches should have 106 landings no? or you diverted on those 3 go-arounds?

@@jress9967 2 Far Eastern & 2 European

@@kightremin a millennial feeling offended that someone actually lived life for real?

Thank you Charles, nice to hear from someone like yourself. I can only imagine what that must be like to see it so clearly in a sim all these years later.

do you remember flying over the kowloon walled city (the really densely populated about a block or so from the airport?)

This approach is insane indeed. Even if just studying the plan view and vertical profile, on the approach chart, before seeing this there's no other conclusion. Thumb up for all the pilots who were qualified to fly the approach and land on Kai Tak when it was open.

8 and 12 for me, but yes, very memorable...in 83 there was a Lufthansa cargo 747 plane with a toasted nose year at the harbour end. Pretty sure we were load restricted taking off over the city.

I was 5 when you were 7 and I landed there many times as a kid. I thought it was fun. Haha

@@DLAU2886 Glad to hear your memories of HK back then. How changing it is now....quite sad

Very interesting! Wish I could have seen it back then.

I used to live in one of those apartments in the 70s, weird looking at the passengers so closely

Me luckily everytime on 3 engines 😅

@@karaoke127 , The three engine app was a three engine ferry flight for engine replacement, to Kong Kong, it required the crew to be instructor/check airmen qualified.

When I found out about this I asked my mom and dad about it (they lived in Hong Kong till the 2000s) and they said you could see the tv’s inside peoples houses

You’re right, actually forgot about that mod!

That’s one approach I would be upset if I couldn’t get a window seat for. Must have been quite the sight.

@@TheFlightSimDeck I grew up near there and a rwy 13 landing I can see my old places from the right side. It was quite a thing watching big planes going on finals in front of those tall hills.

@@TheFlightSimDeck Below the checkboard hill there is a public park there. To the west of it the approach lights are mounted on roof tops and on pillars. In that park there was a VOR station.. All hints of those are long gone after that many years. The VOR at Tung Lung Chau still there, Google streetview will show it.

Yeah the main engine sounds need something else. I like the touchdown sounds. Should start to see some sound packs eventually.

I have installed it tonight, it’s awesome! I will have to invest in the Hong Kong scenery next and hope my computer can handle it 🤔

Thanks man did my best! Never had the privilege to try it before. The pilots that did it for real had to train in the simulator for a while before attempting in real life. The interesting thing is this was all through the era when graphics were not very good.

They run pretty good together. It’s even slightly smoother live too. Happy with the combo so far.

Can I ask what graphics settings you are running the sim at? Nice landing BTW. Thanks for posting.

Well it has been closed since 98 so kind of the apocalypse. Had to turn cars off until they fix it. Otherwise there is a stream of traffic going across the runway where a modern road would be.

@@TheFlightSimDeck Well, at least all the buggs in it look better than FS 2004. Other than that, no different. Even the 3k you have to spend on a PC and still not be able to max the settings.

I was thinking about that too. Especially the regular trips in there. Waking up knowing that’s what you have to do today. I also heard there was a decent crosswind most of the time.

That is true. I think it was either the cockpit height or the length from the glare shield to the nose that makes it that way.

Baby steps, there will be a day when we have a lot more. Took FSX a few years to get the PMDG.

Thanks! Yes it used to be. They closed the airport in 98. The city was expanding and they started to think about the casualty risk. Here is the real thing: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-CJxbPY9uc5s.html

I'm not sure actually, didn't see them beforehand. It's possible they added some or plan to. The checkerboard is gone these days I would assume?

I believe some of the taller buildings along the approach didn't exist back then. The checkerboard was left there and was not maintained, it is almost gone nowadays.

Thanks Ed! I can sure, don’t think I’ve tweaked them yet with this rig though. Hoping to stream Christmas Eve, something with snow!

The throttle? Or which handle? I’m thinking your controls are dual mapped or mapped to the wrong thing.

Yeah you fly the ILS down to the checkerboard. But the localizer doesn’t work yet so I had to eyeball it.

There are a few approaches to the checkboard one is more left. But none are available in the FMC yet. I also couldn’t get the localizer to work. You’re supposed to fly the ILS before the turn for this reason.

Under showcase camera they are there. Lower on the list are wing views.

Thanks! I've used a mouse and keyboard in other sims just to see how it is, and it's not too bad. Actually wanted to be a video about that experience with this sim. But I would recommend a stick. One of these two for starting out. Unfortunately MSFS caused everyone to inflated the prices. These both used to cost $40 and $60 before it was released. www.amazon.com/Logitech-Extreme-3D-PRO-Joystick/dp/B00A76N8RO/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=joystick&qid=1609570817&s=electronics&sr=1-1 www.amazon.com/Guillemot-Thrustmaster-T-16000M-Fcs-Joystick/dp/B01H6KXGEI/ref=sr_1_13?dchild=1&keywords=Thrustmaster+T.16000M&qid=1609570791&s=electronics&sr=1-13

@@TheFlightSimDeck The only sim game that I play is ETS2 and I need my full setup for that. I think I will see how MSFS plays with mouse and keyboard and if I enjoy the game a lot I will come back and check out your recommendations, thanks for that. :)

Thanks! I'm using Face Track No IR. Really like it, can't fly without it. Doesn't have to be that one, but some form of head tracking. They make a cell phone camera one too. I think it's free.

Good question. I know the 747 doesn’t take much deflection to turn but it does look a little off. I recall the yoke turning appropriately in the C172. Ill have to pay attention and test it now.

Here are my settings: www.theflightsimdeck.com/microsoft-flight-simulator

@@TheFlightSimDeck How are you getting smooth FPS? Do you think trackIR kills performance? I just can’t get a constant smooth FPS in the jets.

@@johncanillas8939 Seems like performance tanked a little bit after the VR update. This was a few days before that update. Track IR can drop the FPS a little only because you're looking around more so it has to try and keep up with your view. But I don't think the app itself drops the frames.

I didn’t add it, not sure if it’s part of default or this package.

Thanks! You can do it with head tracking or VR.

The PMDG 748 by a lot. Which should eventually be making its way to MSFS. Or it’s possible someone will mod it to that level like what was done with X-Plane 11’s 738. They took what was a terrible simulation of the 737 and turned it into a version that surpasses PMDG, all for free.

I really like the a320 in msfs 2020 but the graphics card, cpu and ram could not support my pc specifications I prefer to stick fsx and add airplanes like from aerosoft for captain and FS labs for atpl.

PMDG aircraft cost more than the whole MSFS simulator by itself with a default 747 included of course its not going to be on PMDG's level just like any other default aircraft in the sim compared to the expensive payware counterpart. People need to stop comparing default to payware aircraft you are not getting that in a base 60$ sim PMDG aircraft are like 150$ and well worth the money if you want to invest in study level aircraft on your desktop.

@@fsx-legend4602 I compared Cessna 172 on FSX and the pay ware 172. If you’re looking on simple ones then freeware is good. But since I compared pay ware, its closer to the real one even performing a magneto drop level based in my experience on our local airport not just that even a carb heat is activated it can affect the rpm its closer on the real 172 even the cylinder compression test on a Cessna 172 can affect engine performance. Also the Pilot ‘s Handbook is similar on the real ones. Even my seniors ( instructors ) said its accurate however it is closer on the real one. The bad thing is when performing an engine start up there were no dispatch personnel near both wings in case for problems. Like oil leak from the engines, engine fire, FOD near the propeller pitot tube cover, chocks should be removed even navigation lights, strobe lights and beacon the dispatch personnel should notify the PIC. Although freeware can be fun because you can download without paying while pay ware needs to be bought.

Thank you! Yes the author has a list of things he’s working on and I think that’s one. Will be interesting to see what it develops into.

Showcase camera mode and from there you will see a list of views. It's toward the bottom.

Google is always the answer

There is this one. Needs a bunch of extra libraries though. They link them in the post forums.x-plane.org/index.php?/files/file/27728-vhxx-kai-tak-airport/

@@TheFlightSimDeck Thanks!