Microsoft Sidewinder Precision Pro Gameport in Windows 10 without adapters. 

My understanding was there were 2 models. I have 2 of the earlier ones that were purely gameport. Others had circuitry and wiring for both with the adapter.

Without going through the steps exactly again from memory, you have to get to the 'device manager' from control panel. I think it is in the 'devices' section at the bottom. You go to gameport granted it is there and go to properties. You see the address range. You take the lower number and add 1 so like C400 you'd get C401. You use the windows calculator, and there is in there I think a programming mode and you can convert the hexidecimal number to the decimal number. As I recall you may have to click decimal after you had entered it as hexidecimal. Like this? : ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-tPb88FJpu2c.html

It expects to address a gameport directly through hardware. USB adapters would need specialized means of eventually doing the same thing, but I am mostly certain this will not work out of the box with those. This has only been tested on the precision pro also.

If you have a gameport and you get the address right it is supposed to work. It may be the address is wrong, or some cards that do not have drivers for the gameport sort of disappear after coming back from sleep. It may be also because the BIOS configured it due to being set to do so. Basically something has to configure the devices. I had that problem when I did not have the creative gameport driver for the audigy.

It is true this stuff is a dying set of gear. I got a ASUS Prime B350 Plus with an Audigy 2 pci card. I got a motherboard with PCI ports a few years ago.

This program works for the MSPP and a pci gameport only. Sorry

@@MatthewSuffidy Ah ok i thought that this program could work for MSPP with USB support also. Do you use a pci sound card sound blaster ? Thanks

@@mikaelmika1041 Ideally it would be a cheap card like a Live card or SB128. In my experience it works better when there are drivers for the gameport, or else they don't reconfigure coming out of sleep and thus it stops working.

@@MatthewSuffidyThank you. So it 's better to have a SB live. But the modern mainboards don't have PCI ports anymore. Don't they ?

@@mikaelmika1041 Well you may be able to do a PCIE one with a gameport. The program is only able to access address under a certain binary size, so I am not sure where the PCIE address would be.

I don't have it listed. It turns out later I use a utility called pciutils to enable and set the address of the port. In my EFI bios it won't work, but you can use that to make it work. It is a bit technical, but I just make an icon I click on before running my stuff that sets it up with a batch file. One of my newer videos goes over it.

@@MatthewSuffidy before I'll try using pciutils I'm gonna admit how on earth I was going to check gameport port if I don't have one so changing my question. Can I use adapter for WinWinder and if yes what I have to put in portaddress.txt

@@MatthewSuffidy hey again, I thought I responded but I dont see my response here so I will say it again I realised that I dont have gameport in my PC so how would I want to know it's address if I don't have one So my new question is, can I use WinWinder with adapter gameport->USB and if yes, what am I supposed to put in portaddress.txt file

@@seru1137 No you need a physical game port to use this solution. Thanks

Well ideally in device manager you have something called gameport and it has an address range in hexadecimal. You are looking for the lower number+1. If it is just one number it is probably the one number without adding one like this: user-images.githubusercontent.com/1721040/94341233-5b198880-ffcd-11ea-83c3-3d90e0003fde.png Here is something you can use to find the decimal number: calculator.name/baseconvert/hexadecimal/decimal

If you don't have a gameport driver, it would really help to dig one up somehow. It isn't a driver, but it does ensure the device remain active after windows sleep and also just know what you have.

@@MatthewSuffidy Do u know any that I could download on Win 10?

@@ondrejmastnik It usually comes with your sound driver, but if you are missing it, you can try to find game port drivers but watch out for scams sites.

It may work if you have a game port in the computer and changed the address in the text file to it. Otherwise, I could probably get it to work if I knew more about that model, but it either would work or not as is as an input joystick, but not with force feedback...

@@MatthewSuffidy i try to get the working adapter from iowa. (descent forum)

Sorry I missed this message. The program I put out works for me, and I hope it would work for everyone else. I guess there are a few places things could have gone wrong like the joystick being a different model from mine. A computer too slow would make it not work, because at around 3Ghz the port interface is at about the same sample time as required as fast as it can go. I wouldn't want you to do anything drastic. For me it is like I wrote. You plug the joystick into like a soundcard with a gameport. You have to know where the gameport is like 0xd020 or something and add 1 so it is 0xd021 and then find out what that is in decimal and change portaddr.txt to 53281 for example as I mentioned. Then you have to install the vjoy and the inpout32 prior. It would also not work if you were already using vjoy for some other program as it is linked to the 1st joystick. Also the WinWinder program must be running still when you use the joystick. Hey I tried. It works on my 2 computers here.

If you already tried to make it USB, and it was the earlier model that did not also have USB wiring, there is a chance you may have destroyed its internal circuitry.