Microsoft will force you to buy it! Xbox Update! 

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So where is the flat glowing HD seen in the image for the video?

It is nearly impossible to get the 2tb seagate for the Xbox Series X Over here in Ireland without paying a arm and a leg for it, as for WD the max they are doing it only the 1TB, they need to be a lot cheaper than what they are now charging for them. Esp for the prices they charge for them over here in Ireland.

They just need to release bigger memory cards (which I do like) but make them twice the size and half the cost.

I bought a 1tb card of Amazon and got lucky they sent me 2 for 1

You’re making a huge argument for just building a gaming PC

I agree!! Ray. I sometimes miss cartridges on the super NES :). Compact just engineered. Love your show!!

Games are large cause some devs dont know how to compress the files.

Mandatory Series X versions/updates is a problem too. There's no reason for games like RE2 and 3, Persona 3P, 4, and 5, or other older games to be forced onto players, especially since other Series X optimized games CAN run off an HDD

I got 3 tb in my series x with 1tb expansion card and a 1tb portable ssd for all my Xbox one & 360 games

moving between HDD to internal is my go to, it’s nice having the bulk of gamepass downloaded locally

I have 3 TB for Series games. 2tb expansion card that I got on sale and, of course, the Series X built in memory. 4TB external for non Series/Non optimised. It works for me. However, I do think they need to lower the price on those expansion cards. It also sucks that there is only one expansion card port. It would be nice to have 2 plugged in.

As a professional artist at a game dev, I can tell you that most of the data are the 4k texture maps/shaders. Until we adopt a better way to store texture information on the polygons, we'll continue to use flat, unwrapped 2d texture map files that gobble up massive amounts of space. One thing that would really help would be to let the user download an alternative version of the game with half texture map sizes(2k maps instead of 4k). Texture detail might not be as nice, but for some of us that aren't always gaming on 4k displays anyways, it would be nice to have that option. That's why Switch ports are always so much smaller. It's mostly the textures.

You can use external drives and transfer games very quickly.

I’ve seen a 10 TB External hard drive on Amazon for about $110 bucks!

They need to make it so you can put whatever size internal you want into it. I got there 2TB upgrade card. And I got that filled. So I have 3TB, internal. That's filled and now I got an 8TB external that I have 50% filled.

The functionality (smart delivery?) where you can start playing the game before it is fully downloaded shows to me that MS is aware of the problem with the large download sizes.

I have Xfinity gig speed internet but like on a Island so the speed spikes up and down with the waves making downloads more reliable than xcloud on my Xbox One with 5TB(1TB internal+4TB external Hybrid)

dam and i thought i was worried, i have the series s and now i just decided to only have the games i really do enjoy or try it on cloud before i actually download it, helps out alot.

Super good video analysis about the storage conundrum with Xbox

This is off-topic, but where did you get that shirt you were wearing in the manscaped commercial in your video it looks really nice and I’d like to get myself one

Thanks for the info

On the older games most of the game was on the disc and it just needed a min file to run it on the Xbox.

Love to see an OBS experience on the Xbox Platform to record/live & edit on....

Wonder if they never announced larger cards because they are cost prohibitive.

Excellent presentation, nice work, Ray!

Expansion Cards for the Xbox X/S are the Printer Ink ($$$) of Consoles. Rip-Off prices for storage.

The plug and play aspect of the expansion storage " IS " what we need more of. The price is horrible, but it is amazing for ease of use and game storage. Now I am not sure how long a card can sit dormant and still read data. So far I have a 2tb and a 512gb, the 512 now just sits with games on it for when I want to play. Works perfect, plug and play.

The latest COD is over 200gb this makes the 1tb internal ssd totally inadequate especially as my xbox1 games keep wanting to " update " to be SX enhanced andcinstall onto the ssd

Need to have universal compatibility with any ssd, internal, and/or external.

I feel like xbox should update their privacy policy so that the discord voice integration should be used simultaneously with in-game voice chats

Destiny 2 literally had to sunset DLC content as the full install size was over the max for the console manufacturers limits.

I just buy an extra Xbox when I need the space - One for the office, one for the bedroom and one for the living room. Keep different games on each. Also, one of the things I mention to my son all the time (the rediculous) size of games that is. It's amazing that Nintendo can still make games in the 4 (SMW) to 6 gb range for the switch that look and play wonderfully, even games like Xeno 3 are only 15gb....makes you wonder.

Waited two years for the price to drop. Still too expensive

You could just have the external hard drive connected all the time. So you don’t have to switch games in and out

Man, Xbox streaming runs fantastic on my ROG Ally. Seriously impressed!

I'm an American living in the Philippines. I have Xbox ultimate but I can't cloud game due to region restrictions. I can never get a straight answer from Microsoft or Xbox as to what it takes to make it work in my region or when. Anyone here have a specific reason or when it will become available here? If not don't bother commenting. I need solutions and specifics that nobody ever seems to have.

cloud gaming cant be used for racing games. it blurs the hell out and I cant see where I am driving at 280+MPH

Only have 11 games downloaded on my Xbox console

I mean, if you really think about it… The expansion cards are basically what we used to use for memory cards on the PlayStation 1/2 and original Xbox. Of course, they were used to just keep save files. But that was back when we didn’t need games to be installed.

i remember when you could put the disk in and it would start

I have a question I use the Xbox X , and to wrack up points it says play a pc game, how? I'm on Xbox and I don't see any pc games scoured gamepass can't find a single one lol help

The thing is I have one series x and one Xbox one x and I would love to get the cart to easily switch between the two because one sits at my house and the other at my dad's place where I stay every weekend

they should have a super fast usb as standard on the devices then sell the games on usb (like using a cd but its usb)

Big game gbs are fine what they need to do is take the restriction off where it has to be saved on the internal hard drive not the external which has the space needed

One my series s, I can only have Cod. I was forced to buy the expansion card for it

I haven’t bought it yet but I’ve been wanting to buy since it dropped but priorities come first I want to cause I need that space bad I play Forza Horzion 5 And the new Forza Motorsport along with some of the games you mentioned here. Don’t feel forced to buy it. Yeah it would be great to have the games smaller but will they listen to us.

Also the true next gen consoles need, really neeed 36Tb storage as base.

Oh come on! I got myself a expansion storage card

Okay this has been going on for years. I love how the old 360 days ways. If you had a 20gb. You could buy a 2tb, move your stuff over and use the 2tb as your main or just backup without any issues. If Microsoft would let us buy a higher ssd memory that has the same write speed and let the console use it (its files to access the games folder & etc). Then people will upgrade their consoles to buy more games from the marketplace. Only down side I see from this is that you will have to break the console warranty sticker. If the Xbox made the ssd more accessible like the ps5 (remove the cover or have an opening like the 360 slims had but smaller).

A external disc drive would be a good thing

other companies need to get their heads out of their asses and create expandable storage for the Xbox series X and s

I've also noticed with Forza Horizon 5, Halo MCC, Halo Infinite are so huge it leaves barely any room on my Series X 1TB. Get that games are getting prettier etc but the space is ridiculous I wish they'd compress the game to smaller GB but even every update is lik 6GB plus mostly which has brought me to thinking maybe having a physical copy without copying data would be better and then just have extra GB on hard drive for the updates

I've been using an external 5TB WD Black HDD with my Series X. I keep games I am currently playing on the console and everything else on the external. 60 games installed and I still have 2-3 TB of storage left. One thing they don't tell you is that some X/S version games still run on regular external HDDs. Not all, but some. Games also run perfectly on the external, no lag or stuttering. So I don't think the newer X/S SSDs are really worth it.

I think TerraByte hard drive storages are gonna be the new trend for downloading these big games from here on out. 🤔

Bro, I use my xbox seagate 2 tb external hdd from my xbox one s on my series x, no issues.

They need to make the SSD card much larger than 2 terabytes.

They seriously need to do something about the filesizes of games or the value of the drives. Those 1TB cards should not be around the same price as 4TB Gen4 NVME drives which are not only 4x larger filesize but 3x faster speeds.

My xbox one had halo infinite and the MCC and i couldnt install more. Dont even think MCC had everything downloaded

I mean I have 88 games installed but i have a series x a 2tb ssd I've had since last gen and I have 1tb expansion card most of my games are 360&xone games but I also have orginal xbox and some series only games so it's not really an issue I still have like 600 gigs available Which i do actively avoid 100 gig plus games because i dont play new games that often only ones that are newer that i play somewhat frequently is the mp for halo infinite& the ascent i do have starfield installed incase i want to play it but the majority of games i dont deem worthy of more then 50 gigs max unless i have dlc installed like the biggest games i have installed are coldwar, starfield, diablo4, and black ops3 everything else is pretty much below the 60 gig mark some might be a little over it but for the most part theyre all below it

I don't think future XBOX hardware will have options for expandable storage capable of performance parody to the relative system. Like one of your previous videos speculated, Xbox is most likely going to use ARM on the next gen and hand held device. The closest examples of similar ARM devices is the current Mac line up. The whole system is soldered together, and gives it a huge advantage with bus speeds for the ram and ssd. I speculate that the next xbox will be much smaller, it will likely be similar in size to the Mac mini. If this is the case, I assume they will have 2-3 SKUs for console and handheld, with different storage sizes. Ram will probably be 16GB, but it will be much faster. Xbox's preservation team's main focus is likely to get older Xbox and PC games to run on ARM.

Anuy chance they'll release a good game soon. I've only been waiting years.

Just buy a 1tb SSD SATA or whatever a adapter for that with usb dongle then U can format it on Xbox voila U have more storage

I’m going back everything old school social media doesn t need to know what I play

The next standard Xbox console should probably have at least 5TB.

They want you to buy digital games but they won't give you enough storage 🤷‍♀

The extra hard drive space is needed to store all those extra frames per second that aren't being shown on screen.

Good stuff 👍

Some series games will play off a usb drive like halo mcc

Larger games means buy more storage and when Microsoft introduce proprietary storage its a win win for them. They should have been held to account for this. Current consoles should come with a minimum 4tb which console makers pretend it would be too expensive. But in actual fact, supplying 4tb instead of the measly 1tb it would cost them about 50 bucks more, for us when they price adjust, it would be an extra 200 bucks. As if games and gamepass and dlc isn't enough for them to fleece us.

I have a 6TB HDD and just send a game I want to play to the 800GB SSD so I can get 5-12 AAA games on there. My default download for a game is the HDD but for sure 1TB ain't enough and there's a premium if you buy the exclusive Xbox storage from WD or the other company.

I feel like while games are getting bigger, the actual problem lies in compression and decompression tech. In alot of cases MAJOR Advantages I'm compression decompression also let to major leaps in the type of games that could be created within a reasonable space. These days we always here about advances in graphics, in fidelity, ect ect. But when was the last time we actually got a major advance in compression decompression speed? If we could increase the speed and reliability while minizing the graphic loss/fps dips.

It's because storage limits have gone up tremendously, they used to be extremely limited with the space they had to work with, especially when games were physical disc's. So what actually happened, is that they're no longer needing to abide by those limits, and not having to utilize as much compression, and other space saving tricks. That's it, it's not some conspiracy, and electronics are costing a ridiculous amount to produce nowadays, especially when it comes to memory.

It’s crazy I couldn’t even fill my 1tb hard drive on my Xbox one X but on my Xbox series x with the same games I can’t even fit all my games on my 1tb ssd an I’m not even a person who buys games like that all the time

1:40 check that again its 118.63 gb is THE FREE SPACE and the GAME SIZE IS 10.12 mb

Most of my Series S games are old 90’s to 2000’s era like Shenmue and 1993 Doom just a few GB or MB not too big plus I have about 6 terabytes of separate 2 expansion storage on top of that. I think I’ve only used about 17% or so. The biggest game I own I think is Marvel Avengers. Besides that I have plenty of storage.😂

What can we do? Resist buying new games. There are already so many games that in any genre that you will run out of life span before running out of games. and that doesnt count fanedits of those games. We dont need new games, these companies are no longer a requirement.

A physical game isn't what it used to be. The physical game is basically just a key card to allow you to unlock and download the game.

Don’t matter for us pc guys. Because memory is easy to install and it’s getting cheaper by the year. But consoles don’t really upgrade memory for some reason. They should have 5tb memory on all new gen’s minimum.

Don’t get why they can’t put in a 1.5 Terabyte hard drive have the 500GB for the extra stuff they need for your console then you still get the whole 1 Terabyte for storage would make more sense! Save people having to buy external storage!

I got a sea gate 2tb for mine its really useful

12:00 - "Buy it nice, or buy it twice" - a famous youtuber.

SSD memory will grow in time as it becomes cheaper and internet speeds will increase soon as well so it shouldn't be as big a problem in 5-10 years but till then yeah the improvements in textures will need to chill tf out.

If Xbox went with a handheld, a true native handheld and not just a remote play device, they would have an advantage. I'd be tempted to buy it, especially if they managed to include steam compatibility. I so badly want xbox to succeed. Game sizes are ridiculous. It's especially egregious with games like Call of Duty because half that space is skins and unlockables that you can't access without getting past a pay wall. They had the audacity to install it on your system and then charge you extra to access the stuff they installed when you bought the game. Those skins are all on your hard drive whether you buy them or not.

They need to find a better compression method. If they find a way to compress, but keep 95 to 98 percent of the quality, most people will not notice as much.

I spent $60 on a 1tb hard drive. I have 50 games. Like idk what the big deal is

I mean there's a lot of reasons why game sizes have gone up. Mainly because we went from 512MB of unified memory to 16GB (with the OS competing for that space as well). Game engines were built around this limitation, that's why many games still used a lot of repeating textures and assets, basic- an almost monochromatic kind of lighting, texture detail levels were adapted for 720p. These days, we have photorealistic- and bespoke assets, inane amount of texture layering, everything adapted to 4K output (9x the pixel density)... I mean we don't need what the new consoles offer in terms of "enjoying games". But there's always this urge to push technical boundaries... Personally I would be okay if just stuck to a certain limitation and learnt to truly optimize for it rather than chasing the next big thing. After X360, graphics stopped to matter for me... Heck I even enjoy the level of graphics produced by the Dreamcast. :) What makes games enjoyable these days have very little to do with graphics, at least for me 😅

I actually find it disgusting we have to pay for Storage we pay enough for the console for them to make the consoles 2tb minimum, especially with consoles without disc trays these days

I will never understand the complaint of file size I only play maybe one or two games at a time so I can just delete what i'm not playing and redownload/or reinstall when I want to play it again, oh your internet connection is not fast that's ok just buy physical. I've never payed for expanded storage and I don't need. It's really not a problem you want a problem with Xbox where are the games?

A 2T sdcard should be $60, a 4T sdcard $100, i rember buying a 1gig sdcard for $60

21 updates? Get it together lol

I want PHYSICAL MEDIA BACK!!! Let's start a petition to bring it back because cloud gaming just is NOT an option as playing more than 2 player you get screwed everytime. Nope I bought one from Amazon and NewEgg and put a 2TB card in it and tried, and it did NOT WORK in my Series X

Cheeper storange that works for it

I bought the 2tb expansion card for my Series S thinking I’d load it up and game until my hands bled… All I installed was Skyrim and Diablo 4…

I got 11TB...so no problems here. Oh, and BF 2042 is Amazing now and has been for quite awhile.

I have no game on my Xbox one console and Skyrim can't get my data in the cloud ☁️ messy up

Wait Ray, did you say your tag is “Lord Janitor “? I’m totally down. Let’s game. I’ll send a request.🤘😎🤘

If its an option to play game discs im in!!

Yup thats what i call Storage Inflation. The sizes of games have gone way up but our consoles memory is basically the same. So maybe on a 1TB you’ll have at least 3 big games max. Halo, Starfield, RD2 and thats about all for the big games without having to upgrade with a ssd card.

I've downloaded games on Steam that were ported from Xbox and PS5, and their sizes ARE NOT the same. The PC versions are smaller, despite having 4K textures. Do the consoles not use texture compression, they do on PC. That would account for why the same game is so much larger on console compared to PC.