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Middle Class Maori struggling Marae Investigates 9 Oct 2011 TVNZ - The changing face of poverty and those middle class Maori who find they can no longer make ends meet. We asked voters whether they felt Iwi leaders were doing enough to help those going under and the answer was clear.

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@OkinInc
@OkinInc 5 лет назад
So what I'm hearing is she was better off on a benefit than being a qualified nurse? If that is true there is something seriously wrong here. She works hard in a profession that other countries pay much more for to fail? Damn. The irony is the bank rep on the phone is an immigrant. FML.
@elainediack889
@elainediack889 4 года назад
This makes me cry, my own people are at this stage, I'm willing to help, where I can
@davidboyd8113
@davidboyd8113 5 лет назад
Middle class New Zealanders are struggling not just Maori
@Abraham-MasterofLights
@Abraham-MasterofLights Год назад
if we did that we will be labeled racist and Wight supremacy.
@dufus7396
@dufus7396 3 года назад
When a countries strategic housing resouce is up for grabs as some perverse monopoly investment portfolio rather than a nursery for young families to nurture young future taxpayers in security it never ends well
@WHANAUPEACE
@WHANAUPEACE 3 года назад
How many years has this been happening to people. Not just Maaori but many Kiwi's.
@coopsnz1
@coopsnz1 3 года назад
Socialist prime minister 5 yrs
@bellapullman10002
@bellapullman10002 3 года назад
@@coopsnz1 More like 10 years
@keiheaherakiwi1611
@keiheaherakiwi1611 5 лет назад
We keep opening and increasing the number of refugees into Aotearoa..... how is that possible when there is so many homeless ..... the government needs to rethink and STOP migration until the people’s of the homeland are properly sorted. The older we get the more harder it is to find or keep employment.... some employers don’t want to pay the higher rate....so are inclined to force elders out idk
@crookedpaths6612
@crookedpaths6612 4 года назад
I was working poor in NZ ten years ago. Still can’t afford Jaffa house prices though. I recently met several other kiwis overseas say the same thing. They can’t afford to return either. House prices been rising for nearly twenty years straight. Crazy shit。
@Johnyevil
@Johnyevil 9 лет назад
This is an all too common story in New Zealand, this standard of living for the working poor is unacceptable. Hard working families trying to pay their mortgages with the added over the top interest rates, insurances, as well as the property rates ..all whilst on a combined miniscule income. And what is the government doing about it? Absolutely zilch, rather, putting all their efforts in to passing the 'TPPA', which will make things a whole lot worse for everyone. Very sad.
@coopsnz1
@coopsnz1 5 лет назад
The not Middle class , the lower class
@fullcircle4723
@fullcircle4723 Год назад
Its communism.
@dufus7396
@dufus7396 3 года назад
Im still struggling to get my head around the label "middle class maori"
@zzzELEVENzzz
@zzzELEVENzzz 3 года назад
"with 5 kids" spotted the problem
@ddoris4118
@ddoris4118 3 года назад
You are absolutely correct. However, the NANOSECOND you mention the obvious, you're called "racist". I cannot understand why anybody would have more than two children these days and then cry poverty. Contraception is freely available. But the government pays good money to people to breed prolifically; disincentivises the inclinication to actually go to work and pay to raise your own family. These days "Taking individual responsibility" are considered to be 3 swear words. I'm living up north in my own home that I worked hard to buy. People screaming for housing and typical post on FB "Urgently looking for a house for myself and 2 (or more) children and ONE ON THE WAY". Make a bad situation worse by having another child! But we are GAGGED from commenting; called "racists" instead. "Racist" is a cop-out word that is far too liberally used. Oh, and I'm one-eighth Maori and don't use that as an excuse or crutch.
@mariobrothers5715
@mariobrothers5715 6 лет назад
Lol you have a mortgage. You still have a house. You have some equity in that. Poverty is sleeping in the street . No education no skills no family no help no hope.
@bellapullman10002
@bellapullman10002 3 года назад
They're middle class... Did you not read the title
@jakeofa7226
@jakeofa7226 3 года назад
It's 2021 wondering if things have changed since then.
@Unknown-nf1se
@Unknown-nf1se 3 года назад
Become extremely good at whatever u do ... to the point that people will need you. Then start your own shop and sell your talent Simple as that and never give away your secrets for other to use it against you If god gives you a jewel make sure you look after it DO EVERYTHING AS IF YOUR DOING IT FOR GOD THATS THE FORMULA
@nathanbrowne4967
@nathanbrowne4967 2 года назад
Sad it's systems letting down moari
@WHOHATESTOWORK
@WHOHATESTOWORK 6 лет назад
White Brown Black Yellow all of us are working poor,kia ora whanau
@jaybomb.6262
@jaybomb.6262 3 года назад
As said 10yrs ago the cost of living goes up quicker than your pay rise, and negotiations extended to 3yrs on same payrate at % rate that doesn't help you in the last 2yrs of your employment ...
@jetblackhair92
@jetblackhair92 4 года назад
♥️♥️♥️
@ann-mariemeurs952
@ann-mariemeurs952 6 лет назад
This story makes no sense to me. My brother pays 360 a week for his mortgage and im paying 450 a week renting. How can you not afford a mortgage? These people need to learn about how finance works before they commit to such things. Like buying a car but not knowing basic maintenance.
@pleaseenteryournamehere9593
@pleaseenteryournamehere9593 5 лет назад
Ann-marie Meurs she has 5 kids and theres a guy sitting next to her not sure what hes doing.
@susannordstrom5065
@susannordstrom5065 3 года назад
To busy buying weed
@henryrudolph1952
@henryrudolph1952 4 года назад
This was the result of the National Government when a businessman run the country. NZ was a market-driven economy that did not give a rats asshole to family and healthcare. Just like the Americans are experiencing at present, under the leadership of leaner and apprentice Donald J Trump who also happens to be a businessman. Moreover most homeless were NZ indigenous people the Maori culture who are still today developing into Whitemans idealogy and with great success. The best thing about NZ as Stephanie Ruhle talk host MSNBC points out was NZ is only 'teeny tiny' that why problems get fixed easily than huge superpower countries. Especially when political corruption rears its ugly head.
@coopsnz1
@coopsnz1 3 года назад
Electing a socialist prime minister who raise middle class taxes
@thosebastards8112
@thosebastards8112 8 лет назад
most people who struggle with their mortgage, firstly dream of owning their own home. usually can't afford it but bankers push them on. interest rates increases down the line. then they're in trouble.
@tubestick00
@tubestick00 7 лет назад
Those Bastards i have never met a banker that pushes home ownership on anyone. getting my homeloan was the hardest.thing i have ever done. it took a year of constant hassling the bank as tyey told me no time and time again. what a load of shit
@thosebastards8112
@thosebastards8112 7 лет назад
tubestick00 Sorry, what I meant was bankers pushing for a larger mortgage then what you people originally want. Recently people have been asking to borrow the maximum they can afford.
@mooselee902
@mooselee902 5 лет назад
@@thosebastards8112 you have never bought a home have you.... interest rates have been decreasing since the 80s, theyre the lowest that have been in a looooooooooong time. Banks dont push money on you, you ask for it, based on your income and the value of the home you are interested in.
@thosebastards8112
@thosebastards8112 5 лет назад
@@mooselee902 I own a number of homes in Auckland. Yes interest rates have decreased since larbours early days. You calculate 1% increase on 1 million house and then calculate 1% increase on a 30k house back in the 1980s. You obviously don't crunch numbers do you. Mortgage bankers get paid a salary plus bonus on how many loans they sell. The bonus could be could be low as 5k to 500k in bonus plus their salary. 1% increase in rates will fuck up the lower incomes as always. Look at 2008 and 2009. Yes there were a lot of mortagee sales and most businesses did survive. The reason why nz, Australia and Canada didn't suffer as much as the rest of the world is because the Chinese heavily invested in business and property. Chinese money saved the economy but also drove up prices. So is there a incentive to push sales? YES! Also they have ridiculous targets to meet, targets/kpi will always increase no matter how shit the economy is doing. I hope you got educated because I'm done talking to stupid people.
@thosebastards8112
@thosebastards8112 5 лет назад
@@tubestick00 it sounded like your financial didn't meet their criteria otherwise would have been a smooth process. I know bankers and insurers. They have targets to meet and 100ks in bonus is serious money. They do love their bonuses. You agree? Only in the past 3 to 4 years they have slowly tightened up. Now Labour have got the reserve bank trying to force banks to loosen up the criteria.... because of kiwi build crap which banks don't really want to touch. We should all know by now the reserve bank has been holding mortgage rates for over 12 months, they have announced they will release the rate in 2021. This is in heard of. Holding rates for 3 years plus? Just imagine when 2021 comes, how much with the rates increase? 1 to 3 percent? On a 800k house? Who can pay 1500 mortage week ? The lower income will definitely fall into this trap. The organisations who cause markets to crash are same group that still makes money after all. They never loose and that's why they are have already started to protect themselves.
@nychan8958
@nychan8958 6 лет назад
I notice everyone doing it hard still had sky television
@kirijones3778
@kirijones3778 6 лет назад
you idiot are you in kaitaia?
@thosebastards8112
@thosebastards8112 5 лет назад
HAHA fuck sky tv.
@kayress1914
@kayress1914 3 года назад
Lol Yeah hard Sky's whack
@dufus7396
@dufus7396 3 года назад
Thats actually a badge of poverty
@nathanbrowne4967
@nathanbrowne4967 2 года назад
Same as sharing costs Co owning takes burden of you cheaper to buy things and cheaper to own a business Co own a business put money in cheaper to do business
@atoaganua6098
@atoaganua6098 6 лет назад
Don't waste your money on gambling you cant eat the gambling machines but the gambling machines eat the money these days honestly its affordable to buy from count down or pak'n save a loaf a bread is 1 dollar and milk is 4 dollars coffee 2 dollars margarine 2dollars my kids will love to eat a loaf of bread and a cup of tea its filling to there stomach honestly your kids will love you if you provide a 1 dollar loaf of bread a 2 dollar margarine and a cup of tea on the table yeah that's what you call a real man providing for his kids any ways I'm part Maori Samoa and pakeha we can live good its chuck away thy old self and think about whanau and future
@mooselee902
@mooselee902 5 лет назад
bro, youre poisoning your kids if you feed them the shit you just mentioned. Better to go and buy a gun or fishing rod, then its even cheaper. Organic, free range top of its game food.
@FAMEROB
@FAMEROB 4 года назад
where is Tainui in all this will their billions of dollars doing nothing
@meinatapiahana2839
@meinatapiahana2839 4 года назад
Kingi Tuheitia's spending it up at the Casino cuz, thats why lol
@mega00760
@mega00760 Год назад
don't understand how a country this small with basically no products being built and shipped to the outside world have such high housing prices with all the open land available, supply and demand seems to be not working but look who's running that place.
@xHopshotx
@xHopshotx 5 лет назад
Why is it that Maori can go to Aussie and flourish but not in our own country
@12gaugepolymonkeygang28
@12gaugepolymonkeygang28 4 года назад
Middle class payrates here in oz are 1st class payrates back hm...and I invite u to come cuzzy we look after our own here the Coco's have our backs too....heaps of work cuz don't need a qualification just a good back...constructions the way....
@Unknown-nf1se
@Unknown-nf1se 3 года назад
I ask myself the same question cause I know people from other countries that have gone to nz and they have flourished
@ddoris4118
@ddoris4118 3 года назад
Because (1) Pay rates are higher (better) even for unskilled work. (2) Housing and food is cheaper, overall. (3) No benefits and no "mollycoddling" - you don't get bailed out with benefits and government-legislated sympathy. (4) If you play up and behave badly, you are deported back to NZ [therefore, there is an incentive to stay put and behave appropriately, like everyone else].
@Happy_HIbiscus
@Happy_HIbiscus 5 лет назад
dude, good luck people
@crookedpaths6612
@crookedpaths6612 4 года назад
What the hell man this is published in 2011! Only got worse
@deanbremner5579
@deanbremner5579 Год назад
Majority is struggling in NZ, pakeha & Maori. Needs to be a lot more accountability by politicians shafting the population, the people of NZ need to stop being taken advantage of. Maori are getting shafted by dodge Maori elites who line their own pockets & interests.. Time the people to start taking action, 100k immigrants a year is unsustainable! Far to many on benefits because it’s easier and the wages aren’t much better than the benefit. The attitude needs to change, need to develop the people into qualified workforce
@aranahoruaheather9441
@aranahoruaheather9441 4 года назад
The guy behind that lady looks like jake the mass
@stormy5150
@stormy5150 2 года назад
2022 nothing has improved
@rajbirsinghgill1051
@rajbirsinghgill1051 3 года назад
Really
@runup2108
@runup2108 5 лет назад
Why do people even put these videos on youtube they only ever Recive mostly negative comments It's like it's a joke for somepeople Far to easier to comment about Someone and there situation when your not standing Before them looking them in the Eye
@starquant
@starquant 4 года назад
Did you read the comments section?.. Cause I didn't see anything negative.
@nathanbrowne4967
@nathanbrowne4967 2 года назад
Sad that many moari aren't getting ahead Co own with other family's contributing family's do better and it's cheaper buy things and eat with others
@yumyumbubblegum8718
@yumyumbubblegum8718 Год назад
Yeah we are our own worst enemy we think we're close with our whanau but we're not really two faced nice to each other faces and then talk shet behind each other's backs
@johndowning3598
@johndowning3598 5 лет назад
Why are we struggling and going with out, Why can't we come up with our own ideas as Moari we can set up a type of Koha system where we, as Maori can tap into when times get rough, We are taught to share to embrace to give when one is in dire straight. We lived as a communes, where hunger and poor did not exist. But living Pakeha life style is not what Maori is about. Go back to our old and triditional ways of living. Where care and take pride of our iwi (whanau) Learn to inbrace money to use but as a collective as in a Koha method. Ways of using it and maintaining it and using it fairly can come later as it grows. Stop thinking as a Island think as contenent. Inmagine each whanau put $10.00 per week or $10.00 per forthnight depending on their circumstance after a while the money cumulated as a people Koha. stories like this would never be heard amongst us. We wwould never have to beg to our banks or rip off mergents money lenders again. Think as our Ancestors would act and pro-ceade in this matter. Te Hei Mauriora from Ngatitoa
@deanbremner5579
@deanbremner5579 Год назад
Problem is there’s to much self interest in the Maori hierarchy! None of the billions gets past down to the everyday Maori. If you believe that going back to the old ways was better.. think again. Tribes are only interested in themselves, not other iwi. That won’t change. 7 Billion of tax payers money has gone into Maori interests.. Has it helped??? No, and it never will as long as there’s people at the top who profit from telling Maori that we need to blame the whiteman.. takes the focus off their dodge business.. do some research into it. Maori people are being shafted by Maori, not the government or other pakeha. Find out how much these Maori elites have in wealth and properties.. in the millions! But, they keep saying it’s colonialism and other BS to keep you down and being the victim.. meanwhile they continue taking 100s of millions. Ask the Maori politicians, where’s the money??? Break it down, ask why it cost 100M to do things that would only cost a few grand. Do some research
@john23402
@john23402 Месяц назад
I wonder how much they can get from social welfare under accommodation supplement.
@gwh5923
@gwh5923 5 лет назад
Maybe,we need to go back to our ANCESTOR DAYS. LOOK AT THEM DAYS.BUT,YES THERE IS ALWAYS WILL BE A BUT.I BEEN THEIR ,DONE IT AND YED,, IT IS NOT EASY.HAVE A THOUGHT OF OUR ANCESTORS,GRANDPARENTS,MUM AND DAD. AND NOW SOME OF US HAVE KIDS.DONT GO THE EASY WAY WE ARE BETTER IN THE KNOWLEDGE,FINANCIALLY , PHYSICALLY, EMOTIONALLYY AND MENTALLY. MANA WAHINE..
@nathanbrowne4967
@nathanbrowne4967 2 года назад
Host pot luck breakfast lunch and dinners pot luck you each bring a plate making meals cheaper
@sampuatisamuel9785
@sampuatisamuel9785 2 года назад
Most people are slaves to their mortgage its the reality
@12gaugepolymonkeygang28
@12gaugepolymonkeygang28 4 года назад
New zealands got nothing for anyone who isn't first class...the only good things I see about NZ are sporting achievements and anything cultural...I miss u aotearoa but this is y I'll never come home.....
@starquant
@starquant 4 года назад
Middle class.. what middle class?. 80% of kiwis are working poor. It's more easily defined as the "have's" and "have nots".
@coopsnz1
@coopsnz1 3 года назад
Alp shrunk the middle class
@starquant
@starquant 3 года назад
@@coopsnz1 Yes they did with "Rogernomics".
@coopsnz1
@coopsnz1 3 года назад
@@starquant taxing more does that blame Jacenda Arden
@starquant
@starquant 3 года назад
@@coopsnz1 The Kiwis were being taxed into oblivion way before she came along..I honestly have no idea how any of you manage to live.
@tubestick00
@tubestick00 5 лет назад
Upper class poverty he reckons
@starquant
@starquant 4 года назад
What that means is that you own your own home but have no money in the bank. That's a very real issue for older people. If they have an emergency, they have no money to pay for it. It's called "Asset rich but cash poor". I realise they call it "Upper class", but it's not really, its just average people who no longer have a mortgage but who have also retired and have no other source of income than a government pension.
@Awakeninghumanzombies247
@Awakeninghumanzombies247 Год назад
Man, if that's what poverty looks like in NZ ??? My ANCESTORS showed us HOW RICH we are without money. Maybe it's an identity issue for the world problems? They forgot who they are? And how powerful YHWH!!!......is.....🥴🤴👸🦁👑🕊️🌈
@go1794
@go1794 4 года назад
Not just the Maori lose their homes Us anglo saxons are homeless paying rent all our lives also We work to pay for the third world that our governments supports so we should all quit and fend for ourselves really
@aztec999999
@aztec999999 5 лет назад
It's not poverty if you can afford to buy a house
@tanacz5505
@tanacz5505 4 года назад
Even people in third world countries have their own home. might not be much but its there own home.
@tubestick00
@tubestick00 7 лет назад
people need to understand that in this day amd age, you cannot have as many kids as you like. if your gonna have 5 or more kids your gonna struggle the rest of your life and frankly be miserable unless you have a serious income. duhhh stop sfucking. take the pill for fuck sake. its your fault. take responsibility for your own situation. it is you. your living the life you created for yourself. you chose to buy a home. you chose to have 5 kids. you chose an industry to work in that has a very low income expectation. so how is it anyone elses fault.
@nychan8958
@nychan8958 6 лет назад
tubestick00 yes bring out the bolt cutters 😨
@mp6183
@mp6183 5 лет назад
I agree that when maori lost owner ship of the land it was down hill from that point...for the majority...Also I dont know the numbers but many didnt stick with school due to mistreatment or jus not seeing the value in the Europeans educational system...
@angelofdeath8529
@angelofdeath8529 5 лет назад
Maori are a race accursed of G-d & they can't, nor ever will see it that is why he washed all their blood lines out that is why there are no full bloods left the loss of this land was just a temporary physical judgement on them the loss of their blood lines was due to their practices pre-European.
@mooselee902
@mooselee902 5 лет назад
@@angelofdeath8529 By your logic, every race is doomed. Europeans used to draw and quarter as well as use the iron maiden. They lived amongst their own piss and shit.
@mooselee902
@mooselee902 5 лет назад
@@angelofdeath8529 sounds like a bit of a dick head tbh, could be a gc and just teach the poor buggers!
@angelofdeath8529
@angelofdeath8529 5 лет назад
@@mooselee902 This is how fucked in the head our perfect society makers are. All the news captions we get now are to be careful with rubbish and especially plastic. Local societies band together for the less fortunate and end up with a factory full of cheap fully wrapped 1 dollars toys to usher out to the needy. Another mountain of human shit amassed just for 1 towns good deeds. A wrapped plastic toy makes folk feel good.
@thosebastards8112
@thosebastards8112 5 лет назад
@@angelofdeath8529 agree. Cheap immigrants equals cheaper labour and useless cheap shops. They also have 2 accounting books and claim a loss every year. They can't sell their business to kiwis because financial books looks shit so they can only sell to family. Also employs families. Shit storm I say.
@niltondossantos9790
@niltondossantos9790 4 года назад
I 💛 Maori Language....hug from Timor🇹🇱 Island mix Polynesian (Hau=I.......maori iHau=I)🇹🇱🇹🇱💛💛💛🇳🇿🇳🇿
@susannordstrom5065
@susannordstrom5065 3 года назад
Gotta have those smokes, and beers
@tubestick00
@tubestick00 6 лет назад
They need to sell the house and buy something cheaper, or rent, or find a way to earn more money. Pretty simple really isnt it?? I mean it is so simple i cant understand this story. They have obviously been living well beyond their means for a while.
@idgaf2671
@idgaf2671 5 лет назад
Why sell the house to make some landlord fat it's not that simple you can't understand because there's no logic behind your answers, just blow ass ideas you have
@mooselee902
@mooselee902 5 лет назад
You dont have a house and kids do you...
@tangihorofitzgerald915
@tangihorofitzgerald915 2 года назад
Ali goodl things come by the Grace of a Higher Power. Lets wananga a solution. The next generation is relying on us. By HIS GRACE we shall overcome. Kia kaha mai. Kia maia.
@maurabrott3664
@maurabrott3664 Год назад
"YOU WILL OWN NOTHING AND YOU WILL BE HAPPY!" signed: World Economic Forum
@siivameki9197
@siivameki9197 3 дня назад
Migrate to NZ 1979.work, bought a house in 1987 and 2019 Mortgage free.😮.
@teebrinner5939
@teebrinner5939 6 лет назад
At least she has a house and without working I might add, it's called Maori privilege
@mooselee902
@mooselee902 5 лет назад
oh well, we deserve it considering you are living on our stolen land. time to pay rent via your tax dollars :)
@12gaugepolymonkeygang28
@12gaugepolymonkeygang28 4 года назад
Getting giving a foreign country is a white priviledge too...
@allice444
@allice444 6 лет назад
Same rules apply to white people as well. Stop whinging..
@kirijones3778
@kirijones3778 6 лет назад
Shut up Alice, they aren't whinging...its just every day korero. Go and whinge on your white page!
@tonigilsenan6320
@tonigilsenan6320 6 лет назад
Alice what is white privilege?
@teebrinner5939
@teebrinner5939 6 лет назад
white privilege is a myth
@teebrinner5939
@teebrinner5939 6 лет назад
@Mandy M at least they get to live in the land and Maori get many benefits BTW . It's sad the Mori Ori were not shown any compassion. Double standards much
@teebrinner5939
@teebrinner5939 6 лет назад
We are talking about NZ not other colonized countries, the Maoris got off well compared to them , and who shrunk the Mori Ori heads?
@tubestick00
@tubestick00 7 лет назад
people need to understand that in this day amd age, you cannot have as many kids as you like. if your gonna have 5 or more kids your gonna struggle the rest of your life and frankly be miserable unless you have a serious income. duhhh stop sfucking. take the pill for fuck sake. its your fault. take responsibility for your own situation. it is you. your living the life you created for yourself. you chose to buy a home. you chose to have 5 kids. you chose an industry to work in that has a very low income expectation. so how is it anyone elses fault.
@lordwest07
@lordwest07 7 лет назад
tubestick00 let's face it, the Maori were better off before the white man showed up and gifted them with poverty.
@FAMEROB
@FAMEROB 6 лет назад
lordwilson100 Maori are all mixed race, todays Maori wouldn’t exist without their White ancestors
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