Mike and Zach talk Fallout - Around the Campfire #6 

Funny thing you can also tell him that he has the wrong curior and that you werent the one who blew up the divide but he basically just says that even if you arent the one who did it you are just as bad because you are the one causing problems now

@@gatordragon6140”Oh, you didn’t nuke a place and destroy everything? Well, you still detonated a Nuke in the sky that did nothing to anyone, so you’re just as bad as the guy who nuked us!”

@@THE_Dildozer. Uhhh i get your point but bad example, detonating nukes in the sky causes an emp and spreads the radiation farther, if its high enough you can also blow satellites out of low orbit

@@gatordragon6140 Fair, aside from the satellite part. I imagine the satellites are long gone at this point.

@@THE_Dildozer.they are still up there. We got plenty of orbital weapons in this game plus you can see them in mother ship zeta

I honestly love that idea, Preston is smart enough to know he's in a game and also smart enough to know that telling anyone this is an awful idea

Actually, there's bits in the game to hint that Preston was incredibly depressed, bordering on suicidal before meeting the Sole Survivor. It makes sense actually for Preston to shove all of that responsibility on to you as it's a common trauma response when you're under a lot of stress from your own responsibilities to try and put the burden on others. In fact in that light, the whole minuteman story becomes even more dark than it already was.

He shoves the work on you becuase he doesn't trust himself due to survivors guilt and depression.

both tornado and jericho got some good explanations for this that honestly kinda give garvey some depth which is pretty cool. wish that was brought up when he becomes a companion

@@ScoutTrooperMan this is all explicitly stated by Garvey when he is your companion.

Sure, we know that, but the problem is that Kellog is from the post-war era, so it's possible that that sort of thing might be lost on him. He's a wasteland merc, if the job says to take the kid and leave someone in stasis as a backup, he takes the kid and leaves the backup, he's not really concerned with niceties. Even when you go to fort hagen, he never genuinely tries to talk things out because he knows (or at least *thinks*) that these things never work out peacefully, so he decides to set an ambush instead.

@@evanbradley6169 His own wife was murdered, so you'd think he think twice about the situation

Would have been really cool if you got to raise Shaun with Nora in the wasteland and the game makes you think Kellog is a good friend, then has him turn on you, kill Nora and take Sean. Then when you kill him and explore his memories, you actually start to understand why he turned on you.

Would've been for the best if this actually happened, and the player character in 4 is a completely different person. Nate, Nora, and Shaun being rescued by Kellogg would be an audiotape recorded by Vault 111's computers. Nate became an Institute security officer, Nora became an Institute ethics head, and Shaun became the Chairman of the Institute.

​@@EnclaveColonel that's also something that could cause someone to be jaded and continue to do terrible thing in the name of surviving for the memory of his wife's life rather than what she would've wanted regardless of what doing that (if he kills the wife and not the husband) reminds you of what happens to you

That's what having almost the same team working on fnv does for it.

In other words: Its canon like the first two games. Fallout 3 and 4 get really iffy on that.

Really hurts that that was one of the last times we had smart super mutants. Or a reason for them to exist at all really- :(

@@indiomoustafa2047 "Canon" is meaningless bullshit. For example Myron is a ~20yo guy who invented jet, but the wife of a crime boss was a jet addict even before he was born! These are video games, not religion. Its only purpose is entertainment

@@GamingWithHajimemes that's just not true at all, there's the scientist super mutant in fallout 4 who actively chose to be a mutant to hide in the glowing sea and kept both his sanity and intelligence, and fawkes in fo3 who is very empathically intelligent he even offers to risk his life for both yours and lions to reset the water purifier, the biggest difference I suppose is that intelligent mutants became very less common, but there's a reason for that, in that in fo3 alot of the smart mutants at that point are looked down upon by the majority of the regular ones and either killed or pushed away, in fo4 the mutant "virus/infection/radiation" is made by the institute theoretically, so its not the same as the mutants that were under/made by the master in fo1.

i think that is a hardcoded end, not because of the story, but because of game limitations

Did anyone actually unintentionally reach the limit?

@@steelbear2063 without cheating no

@@steelbear2063 the game is over 13 years old, so probably.

the enclave finally takes over after 13 years because it takes them more than a century to even start interacting with the outside world

Sometimes, watching Zach doing most of the military talk makes you forget that Mike’s actually a Marine

​@@TheNukedNachoMike got that Marine rage down alright

​@@hewhoplugwalksWhen was this? The Fallout 76 BoS rant?

@@TheMaleAlicorn Yeah, when they were talking about rehashing the same factions over and over again.

Thats so dumb and funny. I love it

Yeah the perk is in the More Perks mod for NV

Or have a perk where Initiating the fight through dialogue gives you 10 seconds of slowed down time called "Aggressive negotiator"

More perks mod

"fail to convince the legate" " *PROCEEDS TO CRIT MULTIPLE TIMES* "

Ulysses was "Revenge of the Sith" while Courier Six was "A New Hope"

That is an excellent summation considering the theme of pretty much *all* of NV is "refusing to let go of the past will only diminish your future," and I can't believe I hadn't thought of that. Man, thinking in that frame, Ulysses was one of the worst offenders of that type of thinking, with potentially the most dangerous consequences, so I am very glad you have the option to reason and unite with him.

Dead money: let go of your greed, or youll never enjoy the things you have Honest hearts: let go of your rage or you'll never find peace Old world blues: LMAO this securitron is addicted to collecting mugs Lonesome road: let go of your grief or you will become the thing you swore to destroy

@@eebydeeby03 Well actually the theme of Old World Blues is nostalgia blinding you to the future

@@simoneidson21 🤓

The ghoul who's radiation heals him, the super mutant who you saved won't spare your life in return.

the funniest thing was F3 getting praise in reviews when much of it sucked

@@Charok1 The game reviewing industry was always rigged from the start

the true meaning of fallout 3 is that todd approves of child martyring

@@Charok1 to be fair fallout 3 despite having bad issues like this was still good. or are you gonna tell me the atmosphere wasn't the best? s

If Mike's mad you know he seriously pissed about it

I kinda forget that mikes a marine sometimes until moments like this happen

Timestamps me pls?

@@hopelessromanticpify 2:10:45

I do not blame him. He is absolutely right. The BoS horse has been beaten so hard that corpse is no longer a solid body, but just a pile of viscera. Strewn about the room.

One of the smartest scientific minds ever made, a fusion of 3 of the smartest human minds ever, and yet she still cant comprehend a firearm. I hope she never changes

@@eebydeeby03 she came to the logical conclusion that there only so much gunpowder left to go around, but glorious melee is inexhaustible!

Late to the party but if i remember its because even after the upgrade to a synth her AI is still a Mr.handy AI and will almost always go for close range combat.

@@IIPlayer15II I did read that somewhere but I’m pretty sure she has a laser on her Mr. Handy frame so she actually has ai for ranged fighting instead of always rushing like the flamer ones

Curie was adorable.

After he yelled I actually got scared and hid under the table

That actually scared me when I was watching this

When Mike gets angry instructions to follow: hide yourself and your family. When Zach gets angry instructions to follow: Distract him with a topic about guns.

now im anxiously waiting for this bit

I've NEVER heard Mike raise his voice like that. That's scary as shit.

I mean ZAX, the Master, and the Elder are pretty insightful beings,

Fallout 1 will always be the cream of the crop of the franchise but I absolutely miss the QOL changes Fallout 2 and after playing 2 and revisiting 1, it felt kinda dreadful to go through it. Thank the great Hub for Fallout Et Tu.

It's actually really funny how up until fallout 76 every fallout game basically followed the same pattern there will be a mediocre one that established an engine and technology and then a sequel that used that engine and technology that was way better story wise. Only fallout 76 broke this trend being somehow worse than fallout 4

I've watched fallout one multiple times and I love it it's such a good story and the lore is amazing but I've tried to play it myself and yea it's really something u gotta make yourself play to get to the fun which is kinda frustrating cuz this game is really good but combat is its biggest weakness anytime a fight happens I lose interest it's the characters and story that keeps me entertained

Yeah the older Fallout titles are still really good if you're okay with the different gameplay and even if you're not it's worth going through at least once if you're a fan of the lore.

He just pulls one outta his ass somehow

@@mFilipe20 Probably has one of those handheld pipboy models with magic storage

@@mFilipe20 where do you hide all your caps?

I kill that brotherhood shitbag during fire support anyway

@@Lance-The-BoS-Lancer foreskin

"The average consumer who knows little about guns will get scared with all these scary calibers and varients, let's just simplify things"

I guess it makes sense. Their focus would be on gun customization

I never really liked that system anyway. It's pointless "variety" just for the sake of it. Having to swap all of my guns to a specific ammo type because I'm entering into deathclaw County is just busywork. To me, it feels like they added different ammo types as a hindrance for Hardcore mode.

@@godqueensadie different ammo types are intended to probably vary the guns you use. But in the end, it made its own issue with explosive sniper rounds

@@godqueensadie it's literally just a few buttons for a more effective ammo. Everything in everything is "for the sake of it"

Makes sense

Same reasons why some guns don't work with certain perks

thanks, gamebryo

Curie is in a way like Wattson from apex

here is a quote from Bricky about Wattson that for me at least applies to curie as well "she is such a fucken sweet heart and I am always happy when ever I see her"

My favorite was always Hancock. Being as fucked up as he is, he is really the only companion that really fits in that world.

codsworth:-sad british noises-

Nick is god tier

what would have been cool was if Shawn had been kept 'on ice' at the institute and has over the 200 or so years only been released a few times and thus is more or less just a little kid by the time you reach the institute. Perhaps a ton of shawn-bots have been sent out that have varied in age-appearance and such. But nooooo, we need old-ass cancerman that cannot get implants like Kellogg for extended lifespan because reasons.

yeah like just as the world started rebuild itself

@@theirishviking9278 yeah but that does not mean the entire country will, remember the USA is a big place and lots of countries are fucked up in more ways than others. look at foking pittsburg can you look at that detroit hellhole and tell me "yeah it could be rebuild"

to be fair if it was early apocalypse it wouldn't make sense you even being able to leave the damn vault. because shit would still be as radioactive as chernobyl, if the radiation in chernobyl despite decades is still present within there i doubt 200 years will be enough to stop an Nation wide holocaust's worth of radiation

@@ScoutTrooperMan Nuclear bombs do not cause the kind of contamination present in Pripyat. Nuclear bombs use the fissile/radioactive material as an energy source to create an explosion. In Chernobyl, the nuclear material from the reactor was actually blown apart by an external explosion, basically turning it into dust and combining it with the other debris to become a massive cloud of fallout. And even still, less than 40 years later, the area *can* be lived in, it's just not necessary to do so as there is plenty of space around it that isn't contaminated. While it isn't all roses and happy thoughts, one could actually live in that area with some smart precautions. There is an actual hotel there, and tours get hosted often to explore the area. As for Nukes causing contamination, they most certainly do, but it would be nowhere *near* the level seen in Pripyat in most areas, even if they were bombed. Just note that Hiroshima and Nagasaki, the only two cities to ever be hit with nuclear warheads, are both currently bustling urban metropolises, and were never left uninhabited. So, yeah, it would totally make sense for Fallout 3 to take place some 20-30 years after the apocalypse and be in the shape that it is present in the game.

They actually do have reasons for why it’s that way Summary for why Raiders destroying each other- see tribes in Africa simulating this or see ‘the lost boys’ the Mormons excommunicate because the boys don’t have anyone to date because everyone is already assigned to the leaders. Then we have the slavers which also collapsed in the last 30 or so years. Then super mutants rolled in, and the brotherhood a century later… take the raider analogy. Then we have poor food trade- summary is 3 or so settlements make food. Rivet city has issues with people eating dead fish that wash up. Point lookout does sell food, the Pitt just kinda collects stuff. Finally we talk about water. Most of the cities handle water well and make their own clean water. We’re basically making a clean River or lake for everyone. Of course this collapsed when the sheer scale of it was a issue. Think nuclear bombs fell in 2000’s, and then imagine how bad Venezuela would have had it now. As for the enclave, much better antagonists in 3 than 2. See the president: outside of head box dialogue he adds nothing and just is a poke at a guy who made goofs when he spoke in public. Given interplay basically just made fallout 2 it’s no wonder that’s all they reference. Black Isle is where they focus on writing.

Anyone that sells guns sells gunpowder jars and primers. Vendortron is the easiest to buy from due to being smack dab in front of the Gun Runners fast travel point. But I agree with Zach. Powders should all be homogeneous and primers should all be homogeneous, too. Only bullets and casings should be different.

did u kill any brahmin tho?

I was introduced to it by my friend stealing pencils off the desk of a Tenpenny Tower resident, getting caught by said Tenpenny Tower resident, and then my friend turning the residents head into chunky salsa. Needless to say, it was a confusing first impression.

For me it was reading a press release about that it was an open world FPS in a post apocalypse, which because my only understanding of open world games was GTA3/VC and Far Cry 2 and little knowledge of Mad Max made it seem novel. Coupled with VATS and that it was basically a fantasy roleplaying game but sci-fi and had guns it was an instant buy.

lol

Honestly it basically is a horror game

Agreed

Also agree

As the 10's was the age of the 10 minute video, the 20's is starting to be the age of both the 10 second video and the 12 hour video.

YUS!

just which there was a podcast. RU-vid drains battery on phone

I like having some ability to substitute.Also needing a mod to turn bent tin cans into anything useful is annoying. Also some of the formulas are done. Cookery to scrap metal needs a pot, a big pot, and a pan. Not three of any of them specifically one of each.

Though given the weight of those, it's not really practical in the game

It tried to be realistic and make use of in game clutter in a creative way, lots of people found this frustrating and too narrow so fallout 4 went way further the other way oversimplifying craftable objects and to a few components.

If you have a perk that gives you knowledge of how to do something then you'd hope you can build components from scratch. Stupid take.

@@lick28 how are you going to make a sensor module or eletronics from scratch? those are not things you make from scratch. even today almost all micro chips come only from taiwan since it is cheaper to import them than it is to engineer the machinery to produce the same thing. and we havent been nuked. Stupid take.

Randall Clark's story was a very nice bit of lore, and his rifle is nothing to sneeze at either

100%

Fallout 4's worldspace is honestly underrated.

The Winterized T-51b power armor also has infinite durability but 5 less armor than the normal T-51b. You also auto fail the Mr. Crowley quest for some reason when you pick the armor up.

Yep, the Gary Glitch, you can also do a reverse pick pocketing trick on the Chinese Soldiers to get their unbreakable Chinese Assault Rifles and Flamers, but you need the pass the speech check with the Quartermaster to get the Gauss Rifle from him, and you have to land a critical to knock the Chinese Soldiers down to be able to do the reverse pick pocket at all. You all have to knock them down twice, first you have to swipe their ammo and give them like a 10mm pistol and some ammo so they’ll unequip their Chinese assault rifle, and then you knock them down again and actually grab the rifle. Oh, and for the Chinese General, you can straight up shoot his sword out of his hand, no knocking down or pick pocketing needed. If you got all of the requisition equipment sets, did the above mentioned glitch, and did the Gary Glitch at the end of the DLC, you now have a set of Winterized Combat Armor, Assault Rifle, Chinese Assault Rifle, 10mm Pistol and SMG, Trench Knife, Power Fist, Sniper, Rocket Launcher, Combat Shotgun, Flamer, and Shock Sword, all of which are unbreakable like the Winterized T-51 you’re supposed to get. Sadly, it’s impossible to get an unbreakable version of the Stealth Suit.

​@@patchmoulton5438I had that glitch for the first time recently. All the years I've played that game and that's the first time

Yeah, but if they're not rushed, fnv will be compared to Skyrim. And Bethesda studio probably don't want to delay Skyrim any further (that sweet release date) Graphically fnv is more dated to Skyrim.. That 84 can get more lower.

Look at what Obsidian did with The Outer Worlds. Smaller game , smaller world without no previous lore or games but its as complex and dense as New Vegas. Multiple factions with multiple choices with permanent consequences, sometimes unpredictable. Did 3 playthroughs already and plan a 4th, all from a diferent point of view. Can't wait for the second game.

@@RafaelSantos-pi8py HA! No.

If they were given two years to make it with a couple of months to fix issues nv probably would have been a good blend of classic and fps fallout since you can tell it was kind of what they were going for but of course bethseda is all about rushing games out and barely fixing them over a couple years with their own patches because why bother when fans will do it everytime

I doubt they knew that since it's sadly cut content

Half of their complaints about the writing weren't even correct so I'm convinced they didn't even pay attention.

I don't remember being able to be both Overboss and General at the same time. I remember Garvey essentially saying that you had to choose and giving you an ultimatum. That the general siding with raiders was the most fucked thing to happen to the minutemen. But your point is still _very_ true.

@@thegreatestnameever1415 no what garvey does is he says he refuses to follow you if you're the raider overboss. He doesn't actually remove you from power as general of the minutemen

@@warhawk9566 Well damn, I thought Bethesda actually made a real moral dilemma with that'un, but it appears as though I gave em too much credit.

I think the fusion cores were a good addition considering you get handed the power armor in the first 30 minutes it's good that you can't use something so op all the time from the very beginning. It made sense in old fallouts because you actually had to work to even be able to wear it. F4 is just a Skyrim power fantasy disguised as a rpg

​@Chase I feel like the fusion chamber should have had its own separate upgrades to make them last longer as you get further into the game

would have been nice if you could have put a mod/upgrade on the suit so it could recharge through solarpower or some such. so justleave armor outside building, do quest inside building, return outside and armor is now fully powered. But then again... a fussioncore is depleted QUICK with the use of such a suit, yet can power a building for centuries and still be '100%'.

​@@Chase-id6obmy issue with the idea that you get handed power armor 30 mins in is that it's nearly broken, and you are given half a fusion core, and it's the worst set.

@@montecarlowithdawningornam1817 I don't think that was implemented since once you get to the Early mid game you already have like 20 fusion cores and I found myself actively forcing myself to not use the armor. I think they wanted to make it like a choice that had consequences when you decided to use it. But there are no consequences with the abundance of them in the world

Your Disc may not like that

It would play smoother

What if you put holes in it?

Yes

Tru tru

Its really good. Try it. If it goes bad its okay to cheat. Writing in this game is worth it.

Good luck with Fallout 2. I've beaten Fallout 1 multiple times and have no interest in slogging through Fallout 2's beginning.

Give it a shot. Immerse yourself in the grind and talk to everyone you can. There’s a lot of side content that I think many people miss.

Make sure you get the patch for the car....otherwise, it has a significant chance to split in half and become beyond broken. lol

@@halcionjoy7 You can literally skip the entire 'test' btw. You just need to make the right character build for it.

With the tools/engines available to game developers today that would probably be preferable anyways. The real loss in my opinion is the uncompressed audio from the voice actors.

Really highlights why digital preservation is important *sigh*

I feel like what he means by 'porting' is actually a total remake into a 3d fps rather than a top down turn based tactical game. So no source code would really be required.

@@amstrad00 That's not what porting is.

@@Ozymandias2x Yes, you and I know that. But some folks use the term to cover any situation where a game is released in a new form.

So like an expanded version of cyberpunk 2077's intro? That'd be cool if where you came from impacted story, or speech checks, or special skills and stuff. Like vault dwellers could be smarter but have a permanent debuff called "sheltered" or something.

I'd really like to see such a system in the next Fallout game. Too bad Bethesda won't do it for the reasons you listed and because the pIpBoY won't be mandatory at the start if unique player backstories and starts are implemented.

Apparently in fallout new Vegas you were supposed to be able to choose your race but unfortunately the engine couldn’t handle it without crashing and/or they didn’t have enough time to implement it.

Which in turn reflects the lore. The Mojave isn't really hospitable without the benefits of civilization but then you get to Zion and it's a damn paradise.

Yeah honestly I never invested in survival. It always seemed like a waste of points since there's civilization all over the Mojave. Especially if you follow the intended path of game and travel up the east side of the map. And then you mess around in New vegas a bit and by the time your done exploring new vegas and the suburbs your so rich and powerful that your always well supplied.

Why retract your statement?

Ha! Never say never though.

@@ln7929 they both kinda went on a rant about not playing wasteland 3 lol

@@gkdunch oh I wasn't that far in the video yet

Would love to see them both play that cause does work really well in co-op

Can you send a link to that AO3 fic, please? Sounds like a cool read.

I feel like it'd be a lot easier to justify if it was, like... Maybe they're somehow using the bomb as a power source, and as a result they can more easily justify dealing with keeping a bomb there and letting the radiation cult linger 'cuz they know how to maintain the bomb and keep it from going off. I'm pretty sure hbomberguy said the exact same thing, actually, but something like that.

No, it's never really said that that's what happened.

@@aurelionight hbomberguy kinda is the dude who calls new vegas the birth of christ and than says 3 is antichrist so i don't think hes best dude to justify shit in fallout 3. specially since most of his point are kinda refuted by MATN's also you really think fallout works on logic and sense? the series where portable mini nukes. giant lizzards. 20 foot tall super soldiers. talking motherfucking death claws are a thing is gonna be the one shit has to make sense? logic has kinda already been out the window in fallout since back in the classics

@@ScoutTrooperMan there is a major and idiotic issue in Fallout 3 though, how did the Enclave move across the entire wasteland when both Navarro and the Oil Rig were almost entirely wiped out? Futhermore, how did they adopt / reverse alien technology to get the hyper advanced armor? If anything I feel as if the Enclave would have been on the BoS level of technical advancement and not back at their prime? Even if the Enclave was in Washington D.C and they rendezvous with them it would make zero sense as to why they exist there

​@@ScoutTrooperMan Just because a series has supernatural or fantastic elements to it doesn't mean logic doesn't matter at all. If you're going to do that, why bother with anything? Like the plot doesn't have to be a hundred percent airtight, but it does need to make broadly sense within the setting itself. If it starts falling apart the moment you ask the obvious question of "Why did you build your town around an active nuclear bomb?" then it's not great. It's hard to get invested in the outcome of a story when it feels arbitrary, and it'll feel arbitrary if there's too many plot holes.

Yeah and I guess it's kind of a mix between Xcom and Valkyria Chronicles so maybe they'll enjoy it

Yeah, that'd be a really good one for them to try

It's also a real coop game So both can play

Does the start of the game feel being punished for not doing homework before playing? Wasteland 2 did.

@@nathanlevesque7812 Wasteland 2 feels punishing for everything you do, Wasteland 3 is designed to be an action game you can get into easier. I beat the game using mostly Assault Rifles, which are the worst weapon

I would argue that the arbitrary damage and armor inflation of Point Lookout makes it worse. I don't recall any particular gimmicks that I couldn't play around.

Metro Exodus also has a weapon degradation system.

I play fallout 2, its quite difficult for me but i do like how much options i have in it, almost as if it is a role playing game (looks at f4 with hatred) Main issue is The game engine, its older than me.

Ohh damn I'd forgotten RDR2 had a system like that also yeah like project blackweather said Exodus has a really good one that I like as well

Eh only the bomb collars are really difficult. Though I tend to play melee.

When I first started playing it, I was a dumb kid who didn’t know how to follow quest markers or anything, so I would wander around, get bored, and put it away. Eventually I looked up what to do, and now it’s my favorite game ever

It gets better, and mods are almost necessary for a good experience at times. Check out Viva New Vegas.

@@robertsears8323 the beginning yeah, but once you get to vegas it’s better because you have an easier way to get to that part of the map through fast travel

Fallout 3 was my first, but New Vegas truly sucked me into the lore of it all, I think it was the wacky western setting, and relatively in depth lore lying around in random places.

@@robertsears8323 Could it be that other people are *gasp* different from you? Like seriously, you're not the standard gamer here

I saw that in their mod list already

From what I remember, it’s still a random chance? Like my settlement with 20 settlers, 30 food, 30 water, and 500 defense still lost an attack. I could be wrong. I need to look.

@@TheNukedNacho really? My settlement only had 100 defense and won.

@@dulizardglasses3170 I think they’re more likely to win with higher defense but there’s still a chance to lose. Still re-testing it

​@@dulizardglasses3170 it caps at like a 2/3rd chance of successful defense

Calling HOI4 an RTS is like calling Fallout 4 a JRPG.

Its a Grand Strategy, which Id call close enough to an RTS to not warrant that wack conclusion.

I’m excited for the east coast

@@awkwardcultism ....it's real-time, and it's a strategy. Y'know, a Real-Time Strategy.

Funny how hoi4 is to hoi what fallout 4 is to fallout.

Link to the mod?

that's the speedrun strat right there lol

I accidently killed the tribal companion at the start cuz I used an explosive weapon and hit him. So all of the npcs became hostile and I didn't know what was going on untill Daniel was hostile. Not a great way to experience the dlc for the first time

That's how you know it's really bad.

@@gomiyaro Throwing rocks at pigeons is fun with friends. It's a bad game.

It's an abomination of modern game design

@@El_Descarriado I mean the way I did it was got like a crew of 8 of my friends and we just went around curb stomping low level quests until we got to about level 30, then I just binged the brotherhood quests because I genuinely liked the brotherhood storyline in that game. After that I went on a power armor collecting spree and now I have almost every set of power armor that I can't wear because I'm level 40, I finished the main quest and sided with the raiders so now I can buy stuff from the gold place, and I liked how you could fast travel out of buildings instead of having to back track. And with friends a lot of the unfair events for low level players were hilarious. I remember one time we have all our camps right next to each other and my one friend accidentally agroed a scorched beast and lead it to our base and for about half an hour we were all screaming and running around like ants trying to take it down. Honestly if you just make your own goals for the game it works so much better.

Well you have about five years of entertainment to get through now, have fun.

@@youtubeisgarbage900 Hard disagree. It's pure nostalgia, even for those who have never played it. It's popular to hate new Fallout, and love old Fallout, even though 1 and 2 did the same shit, and worse, all while having god awful gameplay, even for the time.

@@TheDapperDragon That's a hot take, ther is no defending shitty writing as bad as new fallout, most people agree that new fallout is bad due to lack of effort

@@fearthefunnyman1201 Shitty writing like Nick or Cuire? Or even Sofia? Shitty writing like Danses' speech on the nature of humanity? Compare that to magical powers, a village of tribals forming after less than a generation of people from the Vault Dweller, The Enclave just letting any rando walk into their base. I acknowledge villains like Father are a MASSIVE step down from The Master, but it's so over dramatized because people just want to follow the 'correct' opinion.

This comment is sadder tbh

@@TheDapperDragon Thank god someone else seems to actually remember how bad the writing of the interplay games got sometimes, i was beginning to think i was the only one that got absolutely sick of the constant pop culture references in fallout 2.

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oh I should of finished the video before commenting: Yeah there's certainly lines blurred in this distinction, one of my all time favorite games (Deus Ex) has you play a set character but the way it's handled allows for extreme player expression, which is I suppose the distinction lies between the intent of "classical" and "modern" rpgs, if the developer intends for you to play as a certain character but you can express yourself in any way I consider it more or less in the classical definition of RPG, whereas a set character with limited character expressions more aligns into modern RPGs I feel there should be a distinction made between the two like JRPG and Western RPG, cause while they both have RPG in the name, they have WILDLY drastic styles of play.

Agreed. Role Playing Games all lie on a spectrum made of several dozen criteria. The most basic of _my_ criteria is if: Lets you talk and have a say in the story. Lets you play to change the story Lets you enjoy and suffer the rewards and punishments of talking and playing. And how much it lets you do these 3 things. Most may be lesser RPGs than others, but they're still solid games.

But why? Why are they all automatically hostile? Not only miners but almost all factions overall?

@@brok56 remember that for the longest time, the only npcs that were not hostile were vendor bots, the Whitesping's robots and the miscellaneous Responder bots and that until recently the only other humanoid npcs were feral ghouls, super mutants and the scorched. The Miners are molemen mutants.

@@austindow9850 Only The ones Who sell you something dont try To kill you. Also some faction folk dotted around there, plus those with a quest. Other than that its a battle To the death.

@@brok56 I mean it's West Virginia everyone is always pissed off even before the war

Does he sell dank emotes?

Obsidian management should be ashamed they thought 18 months was enough.

@@toxiccorgi2108 Wasn't Obsidian, blame Bethesda for giving them that deadline

Honestly the fact that it only had 18 months and they still made arguably the best fallout game in the series is amazing

@@jacobcrouch6418 Obsidian devs have blamed their management for the deadline, they've said Bethesda was quite helpful. It's not Bethesdas fault that management falsely believed the deadline was enough time. Plus they already had an existing engine and a games worth of assets to use.. Add in all the developmental issues (post it notes being the only way of tracking bugs) and the fault lies squarely with Obsidian.

@@jacobcrouch6418 no not really, it was kinda obsidian's thoughts for letting their own hubris cloud them and be like "yeah we got an engine and already some tools surely we can make this game in 18 months" like its their fault they accepted it they could've said no, bethesda isn't the 100 responsible in this. sure they proposed the idea but even obisidian has a 50% of the blame in this lol, it was literally like your friend asking "yo can you repair my car? i needed it repair by next thursday you think you can do it?" and you said "sure i got the tools and the engine i can do it" both sides fucked up lol

It's... ehh

The commands are confusing and the 'window' to use them was insanely short. I'm a deliberate thinker unless it's an actual real-time game (Skyrim/fallout 3 etc.) It was the only Fallout I couldn't get into(until 76 came out...which I refused to buy).

@@pbsixgun6 Fallout tactics has turned based mode you can sit and think forever if you want.....

CBBE/S.O users: I'm too embarrassed to state my reasons for liking 3rd person more than 1st

@@_.sniper._2420 Heh

@@the_rose_garden01 This guy gets it 😆

@@_.sniper._2420 don't forget bouncing breast

Totally agree. One of my earliest introductions to PC gaming was Baldur's Gate and I loved it. So when I saw magazines like PC Gamer constantly raving about how great Fallout 1+2 were I made it a point to play them. Queue me eventually finding the bundle pack at a Target and immediately purchasing.

Though i would recommend ttw if possible because FNV Does have superior mods/better mod support.

Fallout 3 is mediocre though

@@christiansanchez1644 No more mediocre than NV. Better in many aspects actually.

@@christiansanchez1644 and the mods they play are...?

@@RuSosan Fallout 3 is immeasurably worse than New Vegas. Still fun, though.

The best way i i can put it, in terms of why i like Dead Money is. That it sucks to Play but it is awesome to replay. The first time i played it i remember how jarring it was to lose All my gear and powerful weaponry and suddenly have to deal without it. But the second time once i was prepared for it. It was kind of rad. Being scarce on everything and having very little in terms of protection made every encounter feel much higher in stakes and the need to weigh your option in an encounter, whether or not it would be Worth the risk felt like a return to form in the context of the games survival wasteland roots. Even the almost omnipresent fog cloud that can kill you: first time it was infuriating, but the second playthrough it added to the survival horror aspect of being a mere human that is no longer meant for you just like an irradiated Wasteland should.

@@peterlockbolvig7518 yeah, the first run is awful, but later ones can be quite fun.

@@peterlockbolvig7518 To me its basically a genre shift survival horror xD

Same in 2012 I rented it from blockbuster and tried it for a hour hated it never played a fallout game before this and forgot to return it after 2 weeks but by then my blockbuster closed so I tried it again a month later and fell in love with it

@@ln7929 Lucky you...lol free game! ha

@@pbsixgun6 also got black ops 2 as well

Hilariously, these days that's happening with Elden Ring.