I watched an interview with Max on some DVD I have and he was talking about I believe rise and beyond remains and completely admitted that they're very first live show ever they were literally sitting in the dressing room waiting to go on stage when somebody came up to Max pattern patted him on the back and said are you doing good bro are you in tune and he looks at the guy and says in tune what is that I didn't know my instruments had to be in tune that was literally when he let the cat out of the bag that rise and beyond The remains are literally the most punk rock heavy metal albums ever the only thing that could make them more punk rock is had they stolen their instruments prior to recording not to name names (**cough**pap smear**cough** slash **cough** sex pistols lol... Like I said though not to name names
