Miles Morales VS Miguel O'Hara (The Lunar Train Scene) | Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse | CLIP 

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I want to give this a 15 but that's not possible so, just *The best superhero movie ever* *The best sequel movie ever* *The best movie for me*

11/10

10/10 🙂

​@@turdboi420-69This and Into the Spider verse is everything right about a Spider-Man movie vs those lame Tom Holland movies 🤮🤢🤢🤢🤢

This. I hate Miguel for acting like Miles told the spider to bite him

Ikr? The spider came to Earth 1610 because The Spot ran a test that brought it there. Miles had nothing to do with the spider's disappearance from Earth 42, he was just the guy who happened to get bit instead.

Miguel should blame the Spot (when he was a scientist) for bringing the spider into Miles’s dimension in the first place.

Yup, a 30-something dude is beating up a 15 year old boy because the boy won't let his father die. The thing is, Miguel was hostile to Miles from the very beginning, look at the empanada scene. Miles is so eager to meet him, brings food, and greets Miguel happily. The ass just throws the empanada in the trash can and later the can itself at Miles. Very stable guy. Yeah, he is traumatised, but he is still an asshole. If he just talked with Miles without hostility, Miles would have listened.

​@@michaelmahabir213THIS🕷️

Miguel crossed the line then and there. If anyone's a mistake, it's HIM.

​​@@YangTheAceyou still don't get it, huh? Miles's spider powers we're not meant for him. The spider from U-42 was not supposed to be in Miles universe.

@@marlonquintana3466 I know. But even so, Miles IS Spider Man, no matter if he's an anomaly or not. He saved the multiverse.

​@@marlonquintana3466You don't get it actually lol! But regardless if Miles was bit by a spider that wasn't supposed to bite him. The whole point of getting bit is that it can happen to anybody, even in this case a spider from a universe that isn't from their own. That's why they state in the original movie, "anyone can wear the mask."

@@cartoonfoxguy2002 you're just emotionally compromised for Miles. Miguel O'Hara mirrors cyclops from X-Men. He does what must be done.

If Miguel wanted he could actually neutralize Miles, but he's not evil. If Miguel was evil Miles would have been hunted down & taken out.

Miguel's VA gave an amazing delivery as well

@@marlonquintana3466i mean, not wanting to kill a person for something they have no control over doesnt make him good

​@@filipbitala2624trying to protect multiverse and save people i think thats enough reason to be good person

@@umutduvan thinking he is protecting the universe

But instead they gave Miguel a good durability feat: he tanked that blast pretty well and the ultimate spidey Miguel is a beast and he actually shoots webs and is fast asl

I wouldve liked to see that

📸🤨​@@Gabrielok6

I’d like to believe that Miguel at least has vampire themed underwear on

​@@prophetbaby5569 miles didn't even use his full power besides every spiderman can tank the venom strike not just Miguel

It hurts so much

One of the most cruel and harshest reality checks I've ever heard.

I don’t like it

O’Hara definitely went way too far with that one! He crossed the line, Man!…..CROSSED THE LINE!!!!!!

It’s projection. Miguel says during his internal monologue that he’s “not like the others”

He's probably going insane with the amount of stress that the universe and himself have placed on him.

He's projecting.

I see it as a harsh truth that’s clouded in judgement. He doesn’t hate Miles, he just hates that him being spider-man caused all this mess, even if it wasn’t Miles fault.

Dude shut up. Miles is a mistake.

Trying to mentally defeat him

I only wish that they would have called it 1610B or something like that to keep the comics separate because I'm pretty sure that the comics spider-man exist in this timeline

I had an edible and watched this film and it was the craziest experience

@@unclebensrice4702 How did you feel during the train scene bro?!?!

@@usarmyisthebest9193 heart was racing but it was amazing

I was on 4g of blue meanie (very potent) shrooms the first time I saw it Dude… the animation…. Literally have no words. It’s something you can’t describe. Absolutely insane

@@DropBear_42 it's crazy innit I wasn't on anything that strong but I've still never been immersed in a film like that before I almost felt like I was inside a comic book that's the only way I can describe it

yeah they had it in during the cinema film but they changed it to a different version when it was released

He also said "It's morbin' time"

I'm glad they removed it

Is this some kind of mandela effect? 😂

@@vsevolodzhurukov3547 so sad that part was cut

damn the glitch to his first suit was a good catch

@@MaatStile yeah i actually noticed it when I first saw the movie back when it was still in theaters. Seriously the Spider-verse movies have given me a keen eye for spotting Easter eggs and details like that in movies now.

Agreed and it felt off

@@isaiahwashington9782 INCREDIBLY OFF

Bit of an improvement without it. Not gonna lie.

​@@CameronCleaves11Cnah, ima do my own thing.

@@CameronCleaves11C ...In what word?

I was so disappointed with Peter B in this scene (not in the direction they took his character, I actually think this is great and there's definitely reasons he turned out like this, but from like an in-universe perspective). Like this guy is chokeslamming your 15yo kid friend acquaintance and telling him he's the reason someone died and all you got is a weak "go easy on him"..? Not to mention introducing him as "this is my friend Miguel, he doesn't bite" (read: he's harmless) when he knows full well that Miguel has a strong and specific reason for hating Miles (he's an anomaly) that means he will likely reject Miles from the Society at best and mistreat him at worse.

They weren't helping him, they were capturing him, by different means.

​@alucardsantradideus267 they shouldn't help Miguel all because he really is such an asshole

By all means, Gwen should've NEVER brought him into the society. But of course, she was following orders. No one can blame her but herself...

@@YangTheAcemiles fault for going into the portal that lead to mumbattan

I mean it's clear that Miles was holding back immensity. He purposely never went invisible or used his venom.powers.

I think Miguel was physically stronger but Miles’s objective wasn’t to fight but to escape. Miles also did get a few good moves on him, but it was really until the space highway when he started glitching that Miguel began really hitting him.

@@SlyMagmaMiles wasn't holding back at all, he was "Glitching" the entire Chase with messed with his Venom powers which he's also still trying to Master. Also this is the first time he went one on one with probably the best and strongest Spider-Man, he was just out matched

​@SlyMagma He didn't use invisibility cuz his goal was to lure them out. Why turn yourself invisible when you need to be visible to bring thr chasers from point A to B.

You call one slam a fade? While Miguel caught feet, hands and elbows plus a venom tap? Hardcore glazing

At what point did he say it

​@@manuelprime7881after he begins to blow away Miguel.

And I think it's implied in his plan so having that line would've been already redundant.

He says “I’m sorry Gwen” not “man” That’s why she’s so sadface after :((

@@DropBear_42No he says man not Gwen you can look it up

Omg ur a genius!!!!

He is trying to bring balance to the multiverse, and stop Miles from making the same mistake he did, he tryed to be reasonable with Miles and he didn't listen

@@dreamwalker2865but he’s doing it in all the wrong ways. Like he does not know how to properly communicate with someone in a stressful situation. “You’re a mistake!” “You don’t belong here. You never did.”

Keeping Miles imprisoned in his dimension instead of killing him was mercy and inspite of his reckless and careless behavior, Miguel tried to calmly be reasonable with him and warn Miles of the consequences, Miguel even told him his tragic backstory about breaking the canon and Miles didn't listen, and now Miles has exhausted Miguel's patientice, I call that being be reasonable.

Miguel is trying to keep Miles from tearing his universe apart.

​@@dreamwalker2865yea...Miles is fickung stupid

Sorry man, I’m going home

@@muttplayz3999 (Miles pushes Miguel with Venom Powers)

His face when he says that is so awesome!

Which doesn't matter, since no one tried to frame his life, even in this movie.

​@@yalovoyhznepomnybut they did

He’s not a vampire at all lol he’s literally half man half spider; he has a venomous bite

What kind of spider has claws to climb and bite as if he was a lion? He has no spider webs either, so it doesn't make Miguel much of a Spider-Man.

@@kevingarcia6368most spiders have these little spike like things on their legs to help them stick to walls (most insects do). And they have fangs to bite and induce venom. That’s what Miguel’s fangs do as well.

Miguel got his dna spliced with a spider's when he was trying to get rid of his addiction to a drug. A addiction that would have faded on its own miguel just was in a rush and a guy activated the device which spliced his dna.The fangs are spider fangs where if he bites you it injects a venom that paralyzes you temporarily

Not a vampire

And having their crush turned their backs on you just because they think it is for your own good. I was like : "Seriously Gwen! Who gives you the right on who lives and who dies? Just because Miles is an anomaly doesn't mean he is the caused of the Multiverse threat. If an innocent man like your old man is about to die very soon would you do something about it or sit back and do nothing? If neither you, Pete or everyone gets the concept, then neither every damn one of you gets to wear the mask!"

Thank you!!!!!

They all in their own ways crossed the line, man!…..CROSSED THE LINE!!!!

In the next part that will come out in 2025, they will save him and he will tell them: Get out of here, I will never forgive you for this, you betrayed me

@@a.jthomas6132Thing with Gwen is that she felt that by telling him she would hurt him worse.

Letting people to die just because it is part of the canon events doesn’t make you a hero.

@@a.jthomas6132 the fuck you talking about?? 😂 where in my sentence did I say that?? 😂 I don’t agree with Miguel fuck Miguel 😂

@@a.jthomas6132 To quote Stan himself: “That person who helps others simply because it should or must be done, and because it is the right thing to do, is indeed without a doubt, a real superhero.”

Miles-1610 LITERALLY did not belong. The spider who originally bit him was meant for Miles-42. Miguel deadass even says it in the clip that because it bit him instead, there was a universe completely deprived of its Spider-Man I.E. Miles-42. Even when Miles reveals himself to Rio-42 she doesn't even know who Spider-Man is. Despite it being completely out of his control, Miles being bit lead to Peter-1610 dying and Miles-42 becoming the Prowler instead.

​@littledude7379 But that wasn't Miles fault. It was Kingpin who started the plan to create collider to bring alternative versions of his family to his dimensions, not caring for consequences. But even so, both Miles and Prowler Miles dimensions are intact. They are not getting erased like in Miguel case of so called "canon event" either Miguel isn't telling full story or is missing the point.

They all in their own ways Crossed the line, man!…..CROSSED THE LINE!

@@Otisboy121yep at that point u know Peter and Gwen know they messed up in trusting Miguel and not telling miles.

Those are not weapons the claws are his skin

Glitching

Not really

...@@yalovoyhznepomny

yeah minus one was better

Why not?@@yalovoyhznepomny

@@Zilla123not an animated movie smart guy

Says a lot about how deep Miguel's words hit him.

Ik I saw it

It’s his life glitching before his eyes. He has to get home now!!!

True it was his collider and the spot bought the spider there in the first place this whole is really his fault

@@isaiahwashington9782 exactly. That Miguel is a moron

It's not Miles' fault nor was it in his control without knowing the spider that bit him was from another dimension in the first movie. Miles had no knowledge about it back then.

@@kevingarcia6368 He’s honestly a victim of circumstance!

He doesn’t blame the Kingpin, because that would hit a little too close to home. Miguel essentially did what the Kingpin was trying to do by getting a new family from another dimension.

yes

I thought that too the first time I saw it in theaters…

nuh uh

Yeah, he’s written in that way

He’s 100% meant to mock assholes. Of course, unlike 99.999999% of those people Miguel isn’t racist.

The writers confirmed that was their intention.

@@Pikatwig16where did they said that?

@@nosequenosecuanto In the video "Across the Spider-Verse Directors Discuss The Evolution of Miles & Gwen", around the 2:17 mark. (Sorry I didn't get back to you sooner)

And very dark.

Hobie is trash, hes talking bs half of the time. And Miguel is not wrong, but also is not Miles fault, the spider shouldnt be on that universe on the 1st place. 1 Peter died thanks to that anomaly, then they fix a mess, but only on 1 universe, the only 1 keeping it up together was Miguel, he saved more lives than any other spider will ever do.

He stopped the collider which would’ve broke the canon in hundreds of dimensions even more than right now. And he’s on his way to stop the Spot, right now. Although, right now he’s a bit hogtied.

@@evanholloway1692 just because miles did a good job being Spider-Man in the first movie does not change the fact that he’s an anomaly and was not meant to be bitten by the spider. It’s not his fault but he’s not really supposed to be Spider-Man in his universe. He was supposed to have a normal life. And his Peter was supposed to live. But because of kingpin, Peter died and miles wrongfully became Spider-Man. Frankly in a way it was forced upon him. And it also doesn’t justify him willfully going out of his way to try to do something that he has been informed will tear the multiverse apart. After he already did it once earlier in the movie for saving someone else. Literally in the first movie he was told that the hardest part of the job is that you can’t save everyone. And that IS certainly the hardest part. He’s not accepting that and if he doesn’t learn to accept it soon, he’s gonna destroy the fucking multiverse. Arguing miles side is seriously no good here. Miguel even said to him “you’re choosing between saving one person, or saving a whole world. EVERY world.” (Literally every universe and every person that exists or could exist) but he’s being selfish and naive trying to save his own father. Believe me dude I get it. Nobody wants to stand by and watch their dad die. But if he tries to stop it, he’ll kill everyone. He’s not on the right side at all. Miguel is. It’s just Miguel is being very mean about it. But he tried being reasonable and miles continued to be an uncooperative little annoying pest about it.

​​@@MU74N7K1LL3R though i am surprised you made an essay about this. Miguel is wrong in a lot of ways. One, Miguel should accept the fact that replacing his dead-self was extremely wrong as it was not different to what Kingpin attempted. Two, Did you see Earth-42 shatter losing the spider or the Miles (currently the Prowler) who was supposedly Spider-Man didn't become one? Did you see the universe of Peter B losing because the reason for Mayday's existence is Miles? DUDE, 1610 (the "pest" miles' universe) or a lot of events in various universe being changed would already have been lost if Miguel's conclusion were true. Dude this movie has already shown that anything is possible and fate/destiny can still be changed. Miguel was simply an idiot for letting his emotions win.

Though i know you can't ALWAYS save everyone, regardless of that SPIDER-MAN ALWAYS TRIES.

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Instead you crossed the line, man! CROSSED THE LINE!

Pavitr didn't get his powers from being bitten by a spider too. Spider-Byte, Spider-Rex, all the clones like Ben Reilly and Kaine Parker were not bitten either. The way you got your power means nothing. The problem with Miles is that he got his powers from an outside source.

And that's why I hate Miguel. He's acting like Miles is a bigger threat than the guy who could literally destroy everything

@@Mommy_Makima20 dude he is not omnipotent lol. He was not there to see Spot transform. No one had the time to brief him either. To him, Spot is just an another villain of the week anomaly.

corny ass line for someone whos being willfully ignorant and going out of his way to do something he knows will destroy the entire multiverse and all that exists.

There is literally no reason to believe Miguel is racist.

​@@gagecole4913there's no reason to believe that this comment and others like it aren't just meming

He's not wrong though, Peter died because of Miles being there in the first place. And let's not forget the planet without a Spider-Man. A whole planet. Dudes got a point. Whether you like it or not.

The Boy And The Heron from Ghibli

O’Hara, You’ve gone way too far with that one! You crossed the line, Man!…..CROSSED THE LINE!!!!!!

And he felt an internal confirmation so powerful he snatched his masked down without hesitation.

Also remember they have spidey senses in addition to the cultural senses.. So what he felt was a fact..

Like they got telepathy, or something. 😒

The spider people in these movies can just pair like Bluetooth devices

Mfw the characters that interacted for a total of 15 seconds suddenly have a telepathic bond

As a reminder, Miguel may be wrong, Gwen’s father was destined to die if he remained captain, but he stepped down after learning the truth about Gwen, and thus Fate changed, meaning the same thing could happen for Miles

That’s very independent. I love it!

@@evanholloway1692 you liked it, really?

And he is about to destroy the multiverse.

@@xCoatlicuex As a reminder, Miguel may be wrong, Gwen’s father was destined to die if he remained captain, but he stepped down after learning the truth about Gwen, and thus Fate changed, meaning the same thing could happen for Miles

True

If Miles didn't get bit, the timeline would've gone as intended, the Kingpin would've been dealt with as intended. Miles did something that got Spider-Man killed and thus allowed Kingpin to win. It is Miles' fault.

@@EricDillinghamwrong, the spider from 42 would have nerve returned to its home and bit its spider man

agree and the music that comes when the red lines zip and make race car noises

Can't blame him though. You can't blame either of them tbh

but still. did he really have to slam miles multiple times

Technically you can. Miles couldn't have known this would happen because no one told him about this. That just makes Gwen look bad because she could have gotten it over with and told him.

@@complex2live I was talking about Miles and Miguel

@laishey2594 oh alright. Well, I can't blame him either. I can definitely understand Miguel here. He has gotten so routined in the multiverse that Miles screwing it up kind of fabricated everything. Still though, if Gwen would have told this to Miles, WHEN HE ASKED HER WHAT SHE WAS DOING, this entire thing would be avoided. I mean, Miles fought alongside people from many different universes, I think he would understand the multiverse a little bit

Facts

Instead has claws

O’Hara definitely went way too far with that one! He crossed the line, Man!…..CROSSED THE LINE!!!!!!

Don’t need it when you have a healing factor.

@@AzulApeAnd heightened senses

Kinda an overexaggeration

I don't think he's telling miles to kill himself, Miguel could have easily killed him if he wanted to, just grab his throat while squeezing and poping his claws out, and it would be done, he's more telling him to not fuck the multiverse up more than it already has been by his existence.

Miguel should blame Spot (when Spot was a scientist) since he brought the spider from another dimension into Miles’ dimension.

@@nicholas-dv1mg Really? Then why did Miguel called a Miles a mistake? Is secretely Low Tier God or something?

@@YangTheAce if someone accidentally got pregnant and had a baby, the baby can be called a mistake, doesn't mean it should be killed by itself or other people

I think there are two reasons. one Miguel kinda underestimated miles, second Miguel wasn't trying to really hurt miles at best subdue him.

@@jesusgadea3589 Facts

He underestimated. He thought he defeated him not only physically but psychologically and by the time Miles was in his face about how he played him, he was trying to assess the situation but by that time Miles already got his hands on him.

Miguel can literally unalive Miles if he wanted to but he's not trying to do that. He wants Miles to stop running and turn himself in.

@@marlonquintana3466 According to the recent script of the movie, when Peter said to go easy on him, it said “But he can only see his prey” meaning he wasn’t holding back, maybe from killing him, but he wanted to hurt him badly. It’s also said he was going to kill the Vulture in the beginning of the movie meaning he has no problems killing anomalies.