MILGRAM / Shidou - Throw Down [The First Trial Music Video] 

Shidou: Please don't forgive me. Voters: Ok we forgive you.

前回のムウちゃんのMVは、ムウちゃんが「自分は許されるべき」と思っていたから、かなりムウちゃんが同情されやすい内容になっていた。 だとしたら、今回のシドウさんは「赦さないでくれ」と思ってるから、同情のしようがなさそうなMVになるのかな・・・

2:52 ダブルベッドで枕も2つあるってことは、やっぱり恋人か奥さんが植物状態になっちゃって、その人を助けるために本当なら助かるはずだった患者たちも脳死判定してそこからその人に臓器移植をしていたんだけど結局それも失敗して、結果的に全てが無駄死にになったからその贖罪のためにも許さないでほしい、みたいな感じなのかな

「死刑を希望しています」って言ってるけど、もしかしてこれ反省してる訳じゃなくて、死ねば会いたい人に会えるからってこと……？？

大切な人が植物状態になってしまったから、自分の患者さんを殺めて、その臓器(花)をその大切な人に移植していったけど、結局は亡くなってしまった。みたいな感じかな？

i like how half of the chat was theorising and the other half was simping

シドウさん,しれっと「選ぶべき優劣」「倫理など妄想」だなんてとんでもないこと言うてない..?

花を切ってるシーンは患者の臓器を切って移植してる？？ そして最後の花の人は臓器移植で助けたかった人？ 最後、崩れたってことは助からなかったってことかな

I can totally get where people are getting the entire “harvesting organs” theory from, but my only question is, quite simply, “How?” How would that work? Shidou is a medical professional, and he clearly hasn’t lost his mind or anything. The idea of replacing organs simply doesn’t work in my opinion. Also, even if he is there is no way he is smuggling that stuff out of the hospital. My own father is a surgeon, and there is *always* at least one other person in the room at all times during an operation, usually more. My theory is that rather than harvesting organs, Shidou is simply in charge of terminally ill patients, and each time he experiments with different ways to save them, although he eventually has to pull them off of life support, seen in him removing flower heads. The assembling of all the flowers into a human at the end symbolizes him trying to use all of his research to save his wife, and her falling apart shows how despite all of the patients he has had to euthanize, he still hasn’t found a way to cure death. TL;DR Shidou isn’t intentionally killing patients to take organs, he is simply the one who takes care of terminally ill patients and is tasked with taking them off of life support when the time comes. He tries to use his experiences with hundreds of patients to try to save his wife, but is unsuccessful in his efforts to cure Death. After experiencing what it was like to receive the news that he himself often gave, that his loved one wasn’t going to make it, he had an epiphany about how much pain he had caused people, even though that pain wasn’t his fault. He held himself personally accountable for failing to cure Death, and feels immense guilt as a result. If you don’t want to read at all: Shidou isn’t harvesting organs, he just feels guilty for failing to actually save his patients over the years, and the death of his wife pushed him over the edge in terms of guilt.

シドウがやっていたことが臓器移植的な事だと仮定したら それを花で表しているのがすごく…良くない？(語彙力)

シドウさんの赦さないではたくさんの人を犠牲にしたことへの罪悪感なのか大切な人に救えなくてごめん、許さないでって意味なのかで大分印象変わるなぁ…

移植で人を助ける割に、使う花の種類があまりにも多すぎる気がするから、自分が愛する人を作るために人間を0から作ったけどうまく行かなかった系のマッドサイエンティストな気もしてきた。。

「もういいよ、もういいよ」って大切な人が死に際にシドウの行いに気づいて伝えてるんだろうな。いろんな人間を殺めてなお大切な人を救えなかった。だから頭から離れない。ボーカルの歌い方がすごく良くて悲しさが伝わってきます

こう言う人ほど許して、許されたくないのに許された罪悪感とかに苛まれて欲しい

シドウさん今回赦されたら次の歌めちゃくちゃ怖い曲になりそう 赦されたくないから

まだ歌詞確定じゃないから間違いあるかもしれないけど簡単な考察としては、 MVからしてシドウさんは恐らく外科医で、花は患者の臓器を指してるのかな？つまり、人を○したというのは患者の手術を敢えて失敗していた、そしてその臓器をコレクションしていた(①) ボイスドラマで悟ったような雰囲気だったのと「誰かは誰かと同じ重さにはなれない」という歌詞からして①は命に優先順位を付けていて、低い患者は失敗し、その臓器は途中の値札が降っている演出が暗喩する存在価値の高い患者(裕福な人など)に販売していたという可能性がまず思い浮かんだんだけど、後半の花で継ぎ接ぎされてできた人の様なものが壊れて絶望したような表情と「繋ぐ」「貴方は生きている」という歌詞からもしかすると恋人(あるいは愛していた人)が亡くなっていて、その事実を受け止めきれず①はその人を生き返らせる(自己満足として)する為にやっていたのかも。 全部ただの妄想だしミスリードにまんまとハマってるかもしれないけど笑

他の患者の臓器移植してまで救いたかった人が居たけど、その人も救えなくて、そのときに自分の過ちに気づいた…とかだったらめっちゃ好き。

絶対亡くなった彼女（？）のところに行きたいから極刑を望んでるじゃん。 許すという罰を与えたい。

Therapist: Flower Guy is not real, it can't hurt you. Flower Guy:

医者してる時のシドウさんはほぼ目が死んでるのに「大切な人」との逢瀬の時は目が生き生きしてるし表情も明るくて本当に同一人物なのか疑うくらい違う。 大切な人を救えなかった今死刑を求刑してるのは罪を感じての求刑じゃないね。皆言ってるけど。

救いたかった人が救えなかったから罪に気付くのも良いが、救いたかった人が一瞬目を覚ましシドウを拒絶したからこの世界にいる意味がなくなったとかだともっと好き。

My father is a pediatric nurse at NIH, specializing in cancer treatment. He has told us how heartbreaking his job is, how his patients are all so young (1-17 years) and many of them don't survive more than a year. This video is so painful, because I realize now just what that daily routine must feel like to him...that even though he's mentioned his work, just how much sadness and regret he must have shielded us from. I think Shidou is innocent, even if he himself believes he is guilty.

Flowers in 2:44 to 2:45 is a big clue. Those dead flowers are real flowers exist in the real-life, Bird of Paradise flower, king protea, Moth Orchid and one cannot recognise. Those who are blooming are all 'Frankenstein' flower or you may say fake flower, for example, 'Bird of Paradise flower' in the first pic had the wrong arrangement in color and jagged edge on the sepal, that against the natural form. The second blooming flower might be the combination of king protea and thistle. Those flowers may reveal what Shiduo is doing, putting different organs into different people. Or these pics mean what Shiduo doing eventually are lies since those flowers are fake, imaginary, it is impossible that Shiduo can success.

手袋をしているのと「俺が奪ったものの数を」っていう発言から、シドウさんは医者だと思っているんだけどどうだろう…？？

MVとかみて考察とかいろいろ考えたいのに、仲村宗悟くんの歌がうますぎてそれどころじゃない

2:09 字幕にすると「刺死込んで」ってなるのやば、、字幕まで凝ってる

I feel that this would be a rather straightforward theory per se. Shidou's quote "Not dead yet... Yeah, she's definitely not dead..." indicates that Shidou has someone whom he wants to save. However, they are in a state of being unsavable. (Through legal means?). But even though she is unsavable, Shidou still tries his best to save this person. 1) During the process of trying to save her, it would seem he would purposely fail his surgeries on people in order to save the person he wants to save most. As the flowers in MV depicted would be the process of the surgeries, how he cuts the stems of the flowers and bring the head, this would show the required piece in order to 'save' her. 2) At 2:33 - 2:34, the MV shows many papers and tags lying around the floor. Thanks to my friend who discussed with me on this aspect. I think it is safe to say that those papers are test results to show whether such organs are compatible with the person whom he is trying to save. But, I feel that this isn't the only thing that Shidou would look out for. I think that he would also look out for the state of the patients are in before he decides to take up the job of performing the surgery. Those jobs that he took up, however, were surgeries on unsavable people, even if he were to try his best to save them. While I think is a little far-fetch, it would make sense that at the end of it all, he failed to save the person who he wanted to save. Due to the usage of using organs from the people who are in a state of passing. It would make sense that it would work out like this since a few hints indicated this. "To be deceived or be deceived" a verse in Es's song. This would mean that Shidou has been deceiving the guardians/parents of those who he performed surgery on by giving them false hope that they can be saved. And at the end of it all, led to despair and having the guardians/parents lash out on Shidou. Why didn't he harvest organs from healthy people instead? I don't think this would be plausible as even a doctor, wouldn't go and kill off them just for the organs. It would cause major suspicion among the staff members and would result in his expulsion/resignment. While failing a single surgery won't lead to this, if he were to this continuously, it would mean expulsion. Thus, I think him performing surgeries on the unsavable is more plausible as you are less likely to be blamed by the hospital. You tried to do it but failed in the end. Who can blame your efforts? Surely, the hospital would know that this person is unsavable. 3) At the end of the song, we see the following lyrics: "Throw Down" Ethics are a delusion. I think it means a few things. i) He had ethics and morality, he didn't want to kill perfectly healthy people. However, I think he was fine with ending the suffering of the unsavable as if they lived anyways, they would only suffer. ii) But after failing to save his loved one, he must have believed that the organs failed on her. Thus, he could've thought "Maybe if I had taken the organs from the healthy" things would turn out differently. 4) After coming to realize the failures of his efforts, he grew guilty. He killed all those people, and yet, in the end, all sacrifices were in vain. He came to realize this: "I've finally realized what I have been robbing people of all this time..." This realization would be that he had robbed the guardians/parents of their loved one through deceit after feeling the same thing they experienced.

最後の花がたくさんの人型のものって、シドウが「愛している人」で、花人間→植物人間と表現されているのかなぁ‥‥🤔

誰か一人の大切な人を助けたいがために沢山の人を犠牲にしたにもかかわらず、その大切な人も助からなかった…とかかなぁ

仲村宗悟さんにこの役を歌わせたところが最高なんだよな

赦す赦さないは別として、この曲と映像めっちゃ好き

これさ、赦されなかったら死刑だから赦されたくないんかな？ だったら尚更赦して生きてもらって、一生をかけて罪を償って欲しいのだが(語彙力)

シドウさんには愛する人がいて、その人を延命させるために他の患者を手に掛けて、でもその愛する人が死んでしまった後に自分が犯した事の重大さに気づいた…ってことかな シドウさん自身が赦さないでくれって言うのも納得ですわ…だってこの罪を背負ってこれからも生きていくの辛すぎるもの

I’ve been told by a teacher of mine that plants can actually scream when we cut them, we just aren’t developed enough to hear it. That fits shidou’s views and the flowers used in the music video, for as in his vision, the brain dead people he took organs from are “silently screaming for him to stop”. Just Something I’d like to point out!

ああぁぁ.......言葉にならないほど楽しみ過ぎてカバディできるわ

もっとミルグラムは伸びるべきだと思うんだけどなぁ… 何年後かにはめっちゃ有名になってると予想

シドウさんって "綺麗な花"って言うよりは、 "闇を抱えた食虫植物"って感じがする、

i know there’s a popular theory about him stealing organs for his lover but like 1. how many organs does his lover need because holy shit that’s a lot of organ tags in the mv 2. he probably would’ve gotten his licence revoked by now if he’s straight up killing that many patients(???) 3. how is he sneaking the organs out??? he kills someone and puts their lung in his lab coat before walking out??

成程！ シドウさんの場合、「赦さない」ことが救いになって、「赦す」事が救いにならないのか。 つまりシドウさんに罰を与えたいと思う人は「赦す」に投票するべきって矛盾、ウワ～考えられてる、面白い…！

*jaw drops to floor, eyes pop out of sockets accompanied by trumpets, heart beats out of chest, awooga awooga sound effect, pulls chain on train whistle that has appeared next to head as steam blows out, slams fists on table, rattling any plates, bowls or silverware, whistles loudly, fireworks shoot from top of head, pants loudly as tongue hangs out of mouth, wipes comically large bead of sweat from forehead, clears throat, straightens tie, combs hair* ahem, you’re very handsome

奥さんの意識取り戻す為に全身の臓器を他の患者から抜いてきた？で結局奥さんも一時的に意識取り戻したけど亡くなった（これが今回の罪？） モラルとか言ってるから多分ただの移植手術ではなさそう。フランケンシュタインモチーフかな。

FLOWERS [0:00 - 1:30] [AFTER MV] Flowers: thank you to Puga and Oto in the MILGRAM Stanclub for identifying these! Bird of Paradise: Paradise, freedom, joy. It can also symbolise faithfulness in romantic relationships and optimism. Wilted in the MV, which could suggest the absence of freedom, joy, etc, as well as a lack of faithfulness. Dahlia: Elegance, inner stength, change, creativity, dignity. Alternatively, it can represent betrayal, instability, and dishonesty. It's also notable that in the Victorian era they symbolised a lasting bond/lifelong commitment between two people. Also wilted, which could suggest a lack of inner strength and a failed long-term relationship/committment. ORCHIDS: There's a lot of orchids so I'm going to put their general meanings in here. Orchids are typically used at weddings and funerals and represent love, luxury, beauty and strength, as well as virility in Ancient Greece. They are very much associated with love, and their usage at funerals is often to represent everlasting love for the deceased. They can also be thought to bring good luck and fortune in love. Elleanthus (orchid): It's sort of a purple/pink so: Pink orchids are the 14th wedding anniversary flower and convey pure affection. Purple orchids symbolise respect, and are generally given as a gift to show affection. Egret orchid: Typically white, so they would normally symbolise innocence and purity, as well as elegance and reverence. However, the ones in the video are red, and red orchids typically symbolise fire, romance, desire, and passion. They're very rare in the wild, which is notable as in the tradition of gifting exotic flowers to show love and affection, the rarer the flower, the deeper the affection. Dendrobium: Popular for use in weddings, particularly as corsages or in bridal flower arrangements to show the beauty of the bride. Butterfly orchid: The most famous orchid species, they symbolise elegance, femininity and unity. Cymbidium: Commonly known as a boat orchid, it represents morality and virtue, and in Asia it is an honour/gesture of respect and friendship to give a cymbidium. Wilted: could represent a loss of morality/virtue. -- Masterwort: Also known as astrantia. Can be a romantic flower, referred to in old folk tales as stars that have fallen to earth. Symbolic meaning is a strong, brave protector. Wilted, which could suggest that someone (probably Shidou) has failed in their role of protector. Anthurium + Monstera: Anthurium signifies long lasting love and friendship, and it said to bring luck in your relationship. Known also as a flamingo lily, it's one of the most gifted plants on Valentine's Day due to it's heart shaped leaves and in Ancient Greece the flowers of anthurium were said to be Cupid's arrows. Monstera can represent suffocation, or long life and the honouring of elders. King Protea: Named after the Greek god Poseidon's son Proteus, who would change his appearance to avoid detection. Generally thought to symbolise diversity, daring, transformation, and courage. Calla lily: Symbolism varies by flower colour. However, they're generally used for occasions such as weddings and funerals due to their beauty and are also associated with purity, holiness, faithfulness. The 6th wedding anniversary flower. Dark red symbolises passion and intensity. Although calla lilies are not true lilies, lilies can symbolize that the soul of the departed has received restored innocence after death. Roses: Love, romance, can also be linked to secrecy. Appears on four tarot cards: the fool, the magician, strength, and death. In Greek mythology, roses originated from Adonis. Note: a lot of them have different features like not being fully bloomed, so keep that in mind. I'll update this later

おすすめ欄に出てきたので初めて見たのですが、印象的だったのでコメント失礼します。 この顔が良いお兄さんですが、途中で白衣の際に降り注ぐ紙がカルテ、黒ジャケットの私服の時に降り注ぐ紙が恐らくトリアージタグの黒(助かる見込みのない患者)だと思われるので、「公的には、医者として働いており」「裏で(私的に)、助からない患者から使える臓器(まだ美しい花)を集めていた」(それを私的に、植物状態=内容的に多臓器不全か？になった誰かに移植して治そうとしていた)暗喩なのかな……と思いました。 コメント欄を見たら、患者を殺していたのではないかという考察が多い気がしたので一応。

I found it odd how much weight his psyche placed on documents, until I considered organ waiting lists. What if, instead of killing patients for their organs, he systematically removed patients that would have come first in line? He saw how sick she was becoming while waiting, 'withering' away like the roses. Now, instead, it's the other patients who withered.

※言葉足らずで長文です シドウさんが、出てくる親子と夫婦に話しているのは、「患者は助からない/助かる可能性が低いので、臓器移植の事を考えて欲しい」という内容なのではないかなと思いました MVに途中出てくるザクロは「結合」という意味の花言葉があるようなので、シドウさんがベットに生けている花達はこれまでに集めた臓器という解釈になりました ただ、死んだ患者の臓器を集めているだけでは殺人とは言えないのでは…？と思ったので、助かる見込みのあるかもしれなかった患者も手に掛けているということなのかな、と。 しかし殺害方法を考えると、歌詞に「刺した言葉」「刺死込んで」と''刺す''が使われていたり、アンダーカバーの各囚人の殺害方法のシーンから見ても恐らく刺殺の線が強いです 病院で患者を殺す方法は刺殺よりもっと合理的で簡単な殺し方があると思うのでそこは謎です… 気になったことがあったら随時足そうと思います。 ああああああああああああああああああああああああ無理無理無理シドウなんて顔がいいのその儚げな顔やめて？ご飯食べる？笑って？声がえろいな？仲村宗悟ぉぉぉぉ…いいぞ…

花言葉が関係あると思い花言葉とそれぞれのシーンから思ったことをまとめておきました 《花が写っているシーン》 Scene with flowers 0:07 0:42〜1:20 1:50〜2:11 2:44 3:04〜3:44 割れたザクロ→崩壊 赤い薔薇→「あなたを愛します」「愛情」「美」「情熱」「恋」「熱烈な恋」 赤黒い薔薇→決して滅びることのない愛、永遠の愛 向日葵→「憧れ」「あなただけを見つめる」。 オレンジ色のガーベラ→「神秘」「冒険心」 赤色のアンスリウム→「熱心」 ストレリチア→「気取った恋」、「恋の伊達者」、「輝かしい未来」、「寛容」 フウリンブッソウゲ→「繊細な美｣「新しい恋」「淑やかな愛」 サボテン→「枯れない愛」 サギソウ→「神秘的な愛」「夢でもあなたを想う」 紫色のカーネーション→「誇り」「気品」 赤いしおれたバラ→｢儚い｣ 《MVから》 最後にちぎったタグに書いてある XX XY 下のXYが消されていることからシドウの助けたかった人というのは女性の方なのでは？？ 《名前から》 シドウ→桐崎獅童(フルネーム) 桐→高尚(知性や品格が高く上品なことである)

そういえば、「どちらを選ぶんだ　騙される方か騙す方か」ってのはどういうことなんだろ

シドウさん以外顔がないのは、昔は患者やその家族の気持ちが考えられなかったってことなのかな、、、。

スローダウンがslow down（ゆっくりにする）じゃなくてthrow down（投げ捨てる、放棄する、闘いを挑む）だったことにさっき気づいて震えてる。。。 slow down = 延命かなって聴いてたけどthrow downだとすると「だから終わりが欲しいよ　スローダウン」が終わりが欲しいから全部捨てたいっていう自暴自棄な歌に聴こえてくるから本当に何回聴いてもミルグラムは飽きない。

えっと……その…… ＿人人人人人人＿ ＞　顔が良い　＜ ￣^Y^Y^YY^Y^Y^￣

シドウさん「カッコいい」っていうより「綺麗」というか「悲しげで美しい」って感じするな………… (ここから下は聴いた感想) 色々言いたいことはあるけどうまくまとめられないんだけど「どうか赦さないでくれ」ってあるからシドウさんにとっては赦さない事が救いになりそうだなって………

まだ聞いたばっかの第一印象なので後で編集するかもなんですけど… 誰かは分かりませんけど、シドウさんにとって大切な誰かを助けるために患者から臓器移植を行っていたけど、その大切な誰かも亡くなってしまった…ってことなのかな？ ［追記］ ボイスドラマ聞いてきました。「多くの人を殺した」みたいなことを言っていたので、多くの患者さんを臓器移植によってあやめたのでは？と思います。まぁ、ただ単に助けられなかったと捉えることも可能ですが…。それと、歌詞に「どんな感じだっけ？」「色の無い感情」とあったり、ボイスドラマでも色々と無頓着な印象があるので、多くの人を手にかけても何も感じないからこそ、罪の意識は強くシドウさんは極刑を望んでいるのでは？と思いました。

赦す赦さないを決めずに永遠にミルグラムに置いといたらいいのではと思った。

ミルグラムっていうバンドか何かのアーティストが歌ってるのにMVが付いてるのかと思ったら企画！？めっちゃ良い！！！ というか仲村さん！？めっちゃうま…

柘榴の花言葉「優美」「愚かしさ」、他には、花の「成熟した美しさ」、実には「結合」って意味も。 自分の行為を「愚か」だと卑下してる...？花を切って生けて(人型)にして完成させて、それを成熟/結合って暗に示してる、とか...？

最初は何故？と思っていたけれど、この暖かさと儚さを同時に表現できるのは確かに宗悟さんだ… 「モラルなど妄想だ」という歌詞が印象的

何か、歌に対するのもそうなんだけど、 MILGRAMって一つ一つが本当に綺麗なんだよね。この曲で言うなら、花とか、()あと、ほんとに全部が後から伏線になってきそうな所もすき(仲村宗悟さん歌うますぎ)語彙力なくてごめんなさい🙏

やばい、中の声優さんのRTから飛んできたけど、やっぱり歌唱力凄いし、シドウ推しになるって思ったけど、他も色々聴いてたら全部箱推しになる。

多分考察班の方々が 「この植物には〜〜という意味があって、……」 みたいなのをたくさん書くんだろうな… 俺はかけないけどな…

0:22と1:22を比べたら自分の患者(？)に同情とかの優しい感情を持てなくなってきてるのが分かるのすごい…

I don't think he's doing something like harvesting multiple organs to save one individual person, or to construct some kind of a frankenstein's monster; I feel like the flower-person is a composite of all the people he wants to believe he saved with his organ transfers, or is a stand-in for any patient he wasn't able to save in spite of it, making the sacrifice a double-loss. I believe Milgram is more about how these characters think and feel about what they did re: "killing someone", which takes on different meanings for different people. They may have killed someone, but it doesn't mean the same as murder, or assassination, or manslaughter. Is it self-incrimination based on a complex of guilt woven over his career, or is this a confession? How much of what you see presented to you is enough to condemn?

I don't know why everyone has wild theories, but I think Shidou is literally just suffering from doctor burn out of not being able or even legally not being ALLOWED to save everyone he wants to. Not everyone is cut out to save lives, and not everyone is cut out to literally be the one to pull the plug on someone who does not want to be resuscitated. I would forgive him in a heartbeat, even though he doesn't want to be forgiven.

ある人のために臓器移植してる説が濃厚だと思ってたのにショートトレーラーで「邪魔だ、死ね」って言ってるし二審の歌詞すっごい不快です不快ですって言っててもうなんなんの君？？？？わかんない好き。表情筋が死んでてアマネやエスくんに気を遣ってて意外とおちゃめなとこがあるの何好きなんだけど。

視聴者からの尋問で、 ｢大切にしているものは？｣→家族 ｢愛のために犠牲にできるものは？｣→すべて と答えていたので、シドウさんの大切な人(花人間)は奥様なのではないかと

Guys. I think i noticed something. So Shidou's last name is Kirisaki, right? Well, in Japan, they call Jack the Ripper Kirisaki Jack. Who is known about cutting out his victims womb. Well, womb is an organ too, so maybe it could prove the organ harvesting theory... So at first I thought it's more than meets the eye, let's watch this MV again. And I found things that proves me right, and some totally controversial sht. The flowers are obviously metaphors for organs. And there is a scene, where Shidou is eating a pomegranade. I think it has an important message, but i'm not sure what it's all about. Pomegranade is a symbol of a lot of things, such as life, death, fertility, etc. So it's not clear. But in the greek mythology, Hades tricked Persephone, the goddess of innocence, into eating pomegranate seeds, which forced her to retreat to the underworld for winter each year. It can be a metaphore, for Shidou doing the same morally wrong thing, "returns into hell", for that person. And that person is probably his mother, not a partner. I think that because he doesn't seem madly in love like Mahiru. He seems desperate, and has lines in the MV, where it seems like he's thinking about this as something he has to do, like a mission of some kind to save that person. He is forced to do this, but cannot resist, because deep down he loves his mother. 0:13 "I am making you cry again, I'm blamed again." In a healthy relationship it's not supposed to happen. And the other thing... 3:39 You can see one of those dead body name tags. It's written Ru Kirisaki on it. It cannot be a wife, because Shidou is not wearing a ring. Of course you can marry without a ring, but it just won't make sense in this context. It still can be a sister though, but i don't think so. (It also could be a male, because the XY is crossed out, so it could either mean i'ts a male, or it's not. But i won't think so, i kinda feel like it's a motherly figure in his life) And there is another writing there. "Organ: Mugen" (I spent a lot of time decoding that doctor-writing so appreciate it XDD) Mugen means infinite in japanese. So she got an infinite amount of organs. (There is still some writing there but i can't see it well) And the other reason why i think she is his mother, is because she's dying from aging. She's old. This is the only thing, the doctors cannot help with, at least not legally. So Shidou might thought, if he could replace all of her organs, he might save her. There is a lot of withered flowers laying around in the MV. 2:08 These are probably her mother's old organs, because they are all totally dried out, and it can also refer to aging. Soo yeah, that's my theory. Take it or leave it And I would appreciate if you could share your thoughts about it, even if you don't agree

裁かれる側が求刑する死刑とは逃げるための選択でしかない。反省するなら安易に死刑を求刑しない。生きてこそ罰である。死んだらそこで終わりだから。

考察とか抜きでここ好きなんですけど同士います?? ラスサビ前の、「さあゆっくり目をとじて(吐息(すき))後悔なんか飾って(吐息)・・・(略)ねえ誰かやってきたって(吐息)まだ変わらない表情で(吐息)」 吐息混じりの声みたいなのとラップみたいなのになってるのがめっちゃ好きです!!

この考察はシドウが医者であることを推測し、それを前提としています。 ・動画から読み取れること 1:21 0:10より シドウが何かを伝えたのち、患者の家族と思われる人達が悲しんだり泣き崩れたりしている →患者が亡くなった？ 0:43「スローダウン 誰かの誰かに繋ぐ あなたは生きている」 →歌詞や映像から臓器を移植して「あなた」を生かそうとしている様子が伺える そして花は茎を切ると枯れてしまう。花を命と仮定すると、亡くなった様子を表している 1:27「なあ どんな感じだっけ 与えるために奪う気持ちは」 →「あなた」に与えるために他の患者から奪っている 1:54「スローダウン 誰かは誰かと 同じ 重さにはなれない」 「スローダウン 選ぶべき優劣を 叶えている 絶望を刺しこんで」 →患者の命の重さには優劣がある。 3:16 より、他の患者の臓器を与え「あなた」を救うことができたように思えたが結局救えなかった ・ボイスドラマから読み取れること 「俺は人を殺しています。それも大量に」 →「あなた」に臓器をあたえるために大量に人を殺している 「利己的な理由でも殺している」 →利己的とは、自分が得をするために他人を蹴落とすことも厭わない様子を表す。 分かりにくい考察になってしまいましたが、最後に。 曲名「スローダウン」には意味が2つあります ①速度を落とすこと ②仕事の能率をわざと落とす労働戦術 もうお分かりでしょうか？ スローダウンの意味で今回、重要なのは②ですよね。「あなた」に臓器を与えるためにわざと手術に失敗している…そんなところでしょうか。

so your telling me this man is eating pomegranate seeds with a fork and knife?! that's why Shidou must be in prison then (:

待って仲村宗悟その引き出し私知らない

もし色々な方が言っている考察通り、だれか大事な人を助ける為患者を殺して臓器移植をしていたのだとしたらそれは狂ってるけど、ちょっと狂ってるくらいが最高だよね。

ミルグラムの楽曲の中でこの曲がダントツで好きなんよ しゅごんの歌声も最高だし何より曲が我にドストライク

Just a friendly reminder for everyone that surgeons work in teams. Now, I don’t know about you, but I personally wouldn’t go stealing people’s organs in front of my coworkers.

赦さないでって言うことで一定数の人が赦してくれるっていうのを分かってて言ってるとしたら、、、って考えると語彙がすごいことになる😐 そんでもって、仲村宗悟は歌がお上手すぎるね？？？？？？？？

i'm obsessed with the imagery. i love the flower gore motif. this song breaks my heart, too. the things we do for love.

やはり宗悟の歌声好きだ、、、、 第一審では赦されるって、、良かったのか分からないけど私は嬉しいよ、、

久しぶりに見て改めて…。 やっぱりどうやっても優しすぎるから植物状態とかのまだ完全に死んだわけではない人から臓器を「奪って」他の誰かへ「与える」ことを気に病んでたんじゃないかって思ってしまう…。家族が反対でも予め本人の同意があれば移植は確か可能だしそれで親族にも責められ、せっかく移植した人も亡くなっちゃって「赦さないでくれ」なんだとやっぱり思う。自分の大切な人を優先させた感じもあるからそこは医者として良くはないのかなと思うけど…。結局赦すってことになったけど「赦さないでくれ」って願ってる人を赦すのは罰だよなあって思いました。

一番だと患者さんの家族らしき人は泣いてるけど2番だと怒ってる。 多分だけど最初は助かる可能性が低い人とか助からない人から臓器をいただいてたけど2番からは助かる可能性がある人に手を出しちゃったんだろうね

2:12は今まで勝手に臓器を抜き取った患者たちのカルテで、次に出てくるタグは死体につけるやつかな。 勝手に患者から臓器とって医療ミスか突然死扱いしてるのかな。 ここからは妄想だけど、 自分の家が荒れてる(ガラスのテーブルが割れてたり)所から、生き返らせたいのは同棲相手で、喧嘩もしくはDVで相手を殺してしまった(or脳死状態にしてしまった)とかだったら見方変わるなぁ……。 最後タグを破いたのは、脳死状態→死亡したけど、それを認めたくないからって感じなのかなぁ。

This is a small detail and probably something people already noticed, but I still wanted to put this out there! A friend of mine and I were saying that the fluttering "papers" around 2:21 might be toe tags. Toe tags, quite simply, are put on the toes of the deceased as a means of identification. Assuming this is true and following the theory that he harvested organs to save someone he loved, it makes sense for one to show up after the flower person wilted as well. If it was someone he failed to save, it's the physical representation of their death, his murders, and his failures. I'm not entirely sure if him ripping it in half is deeply symbolic or not. It could mean he finally gave up on trying to save them, it could mean he acknowledged his murders as pointless, or it could mean he's trying to deny the reality before him. He seems to hold it like he's praying before he does, like he's begging for the last shred of hope, but that might just be unnecessary analysis. The tag itself also features two very bold sets of letters: XX and XY, and the XY appears to be crossed out. Edit: I saw it pointed out that his Voice Trailer lines could play into this as well: "Not Dead. Yeah, she's definitely not dead" and "I finally understand the value of what I've been robbing people of." Another thing to note is his part in Es's song mentions: To deceive or be deceived To me, this once again really ties into the organ harvesting theory. If he really was lying to himself about being able to save them as the lines suggest, it also explains why he seemingly wasn't scared when he was "pruning" those "flowers". He would have full-heartedly convinced himself that this person could still be kept alive ( also seen in the lyrics: "To keep you alive, you are still living" and "Lying, replacing with hope".) Being someone he loved, he might have felt a sense of righteousness and justification for his behaviors (possibly because it was someone important to him, someone worth saving in comparison to the fleeting flowers he takes from.) Him ripping the tag in half could very well be him finally and fully realizing just what he's done, what he's lost, and what he can never get back. It's that last shred of hope torn away as he is robbed of the very thing he's stolen from countless others. Another detail I noticed as well was around 2:04. This flower person seems to differ in appearance from the one at the end that we see actually standing. Not only are there fewer flowers adorning their frame, but many of the flowers seems to be duller in color at this point, with a few vibrant flowers remaining where the chest might be. This is the only other flower person we also see him interacting with through the mv, and every interaction with them it appears he's pruning flowers off their body (notice as well how they are laying down, inanimate). Compare this to the flower person at the end who is vibrant, full of various flowers that seem teeming with life, and is actually animated. This could easily be the same person, and he's just been replacing various organs over time. Maybe it's the early stages of him building the same person. However, the differing flower placements around the face and chest and they way they seem to parallel each other lead me to assume that they may be two different people. Regardless, I'm definitely curious to see what other theories or details people can craft out the MV!

I have to stop theorising for a minute and appreciate the music arrangements and the vocal in these music videos, well done

これひっかかるのがアンダーカバーでシドウさんの箇所が「騙される方か　騙す方か」なんだよね 死刑希望は亡くなった大切な人に会いたいから説をおしてる！ もしかして、会いたいだけで反省してないとかある、、、？

Didn’t see this mentioned in the comments I skimmed through, but the toe tag from the symbolic flower-person on 3:39 seems to read “name: Rei(?) Kirisaki / organ: Magen (Stomach) / (XY is marked, male chromosomes) / (More organs seem to be printed but i dont see any written markings on them)” Not too sure how to read into those details (or if I got the name right since it wasn’t very clearly written), but it’s an intriguing small detail and I’m looking forward to see how details click together in the future!

i dont really forgive him, he is the worst one yet but i kind of want to forgive simply because he doesnt want to be forgiven, it might be more interesting not to give him what he wants

考察多くて最高なんだけど… シンプルに仲村宗悟歌上手くね？

俺がミルグラムにハマった頃には考察は終わっていて投票も終わっていた

i'm revisiting this case. i don't think he's actually harvesting organs for someone, because how many fuckin organs does that person need LMAO??? if all of their organs are failing, aren't they already dead?? ???? lol. a delirious, grief-stricken doctor frantically trying to resuscitate his dead lover with patients' mismatched organs is quite a horrific and fun theory, tho. gruesome and depressing, but fun. but realistically, he'd never get away with harvesting numerous organs for a sole patient. and the hospital would definitely notice his patients dropping like flies.

3:36って誰目線なんだろ…。なんか第三者の人が眺めてる感じのように見える

This took a good minute to formulate but here's my hypothesis. Instead of Shidou stealing organs from his other patients, I think he was stealing the life-saving medication. "The feeling to take away in order to give" Since the imagry of the Flower Room lines up with his house/apartment room, thus signifying that this is how Shidou views his pursuit to save this specific person, who he honestly could've unfairly discharged from the hospital in the first place ("Throw down" the invitation I can't take back). There are too many cases of actual doctors and nurses who steal medication from their facilities for their own gain, like to foster a drug addiction. So for Shidou to steal medicine to save someone at his house seems much more likely than straight up organs. Someone counted the number of toe tags at 2:20 and it supposedly totalled to *210* people that he's stolen from, to me it just doesn't seem likely that he would've gotten away with it without getting himself (or even his hospital) sued into oblivion over how many routine surgeries he purposely botched, he never would've had the chance to "accidentally"(?) kill his favorite patient! Plus the same paitent undergoing 210 surgeries from the same doctor seems a bit much for how much time that would take compared to how young he is (29 years old). So stealing medication just makes more sense to me. But obviously, this MV isn't about those 200+ he left for dead, this is about that flower person/favorite patient of his. So I think the flowers represents his attempts to mix and match whatever medication he hoped would improve her condition, like trying to arrange the best possible bouquet for a loved one. This antibiotic, that painkiller, maybe a steroid injection or two, anything to make her feel her bedridden self feel better. With the end result being that without the necessary oversight that being in a hospital would bring, the patient likely overdosed on something or maybe she had a drug allergy, but either way she ended up succumbing to it and possibly died in his arms. Though given how "Please don't forgive me" is enough of a key lyric that even made it into the description, and that his lyric in Undercover asked if we would prefer deceiving someone or being deceived ourselves, I think Shidou is lying to us and himself. I think he lied to his favorite paitent by saying that all these medications were going to save her life ("To keep you alive, you are still living"), when - deep down - he really intended to *mercy kill* her ("That's why I want this to end"). "Stabbing the despair to death" could be taken as Shidou continuing to administer these drugs despite the despair of doing so, because his despair will also be killed with his favorite patient, or so he lied to himself ("Lying, replacing with hope"). Because he sees death in his line of work everyday ("There are so many truths, as there are so many lives"), he's likely grown increasingly disillusioned with the thought that medical science can save anyone ("e t h i c s i s a d e l u s i o n") so he decided to spare the person he loves the pain of having to continue living with her incurable illness ("The end that has already begun, I will finally be saved once it comes true"). "Now slowly close your eyes, put your regrets on display" could have been one of the last things she heard him say (which would be creepy af) but also the spoken line of "With the same expression no matter who comes" could come together to mean that this was he literally instructed her to do before he gave her the last dosage or injection. "I don't feel scared because I don't know" if this would really save her life or mercy kill her?? Then from the shot of his room, there's a glass mirror or vase that he likely shattered in frustration after her death, lamenting his guilt and regretting his actions. He goes reminiscing on what happened and it seemed like the all stolen medication was working as originally intended! Even he's surprised by it (3:15), before having to put on a smile in the face of what he thought was a long fought for accomplishment. But as she keels over the plucked flowers scatter off, it makes me think that her death was a lot more violent than what we're shown (vomitting? Blood?) and he clearly wasn't expecting it either. Upon witnessing that her death wasn't peaceful at all, he comes to quickly and very vehemently regret everything he'd done to get to that point. "Please don't forgive me" is repeated again as we see - from his perspective - a new toe tag belonging to a female (named Rin?). The quick shot of 3:36 could either be the patient's perspective as she dies or that of a witness to the murder, which I find really interesting. Shidou tearing her toe tag apart could explain his quote from the trailer ("Not dead... yeah she's definitely not dead... now I understand what I've been robbing people of") in that he was still in denial over having successfully killed her like he thought he wanted. Also do we really know if Shidou is a surgeon? He could be a General Practitioner or a *Mortician* for all we know. (One more thing: there's a little technical issue I spotted at 3:35. Shidou's hands cut off after a certain point while the floor keeps going. Good luck un-noticing that lol)

claim your “i was here before it premiered 😎” button here edit: imo, i think each flower resembles an organ. in the music video he collects flowers and at the end he seems to combine them all, and it shaped a person. i think that may resemble he’s trying to safe someone by harvesting other people’s organs? (which failed, since it showed the person falling down into pieces) a significant other, perhaps? since he’s linked to Mahiru, and her murder is related to love, i think he’s is too.

誰かは誰かと同じ重さになれない すごく刺さった…みんな命は大事っていうけど。命の価値って所詮あるよなって… 最後に綺麗に飾ったものが壊れたの…つらい….°(ಗдಗ。)°.

「許す」方が本当の意味での「許さない」になるからいいなって思った。 ワイン、あれさ血液じゃない？ 色が無駄に黒いし…

マジでしゅごんこういうオシャレ曲めっちゃ似合うからやめて欲しい、俺が死ぬ

okay, i'm a little insane, so here's my essay. sorry in advance, i'm a shidou truther, and he's my favorite. this may be a little jumbled and out of order, but i hope it makes sense. So, really, I think the 'organ harvesting' theory is highly unlikely and... total bullshit. He works in a hospital. How is he going to harvest organs without people being able to OBVIOUSLY TELL WHAT HE’S DOING AT ALL TIMES.... that being said, I think the flower tending symbolism has more to do with him cutting out the bad parts of the flower to keep it alive, that's a common practice in a lot of plants, no? This could closely symbolize surgery, removing a bad part so it can be replaced. I feel like the wilted flowers could symbolize people he did surgery on- tried saving, but unfortunately couldn't do anymore for no matter how much he tried. The coverings may symbolize him finally accepting the end of their lives, but never being able to let go of them even if they're dead, like a reminder that he wasn't able to save them, to nurse them back to health. He always has to deliver the news of their passing with a straight face, and take backlash from families, hence "now slowly close your eyes, but your regret on display, wish for being there for someone, with the same expression no matter who comes". He wants to comfort these people, but he can't truly do so. It's just routine for him, and it makes him feel cold-blooded "it becomes more and more diluted, it doesn't have any flavor even if it's chewed" might suggest that even if he processes death, it might not affect him as much as he thinks it should, considering he's constantly surrounded by grief. In one way, his career gives him purpose, but in another, it makes him feel like he's taking away from people personally, and starts to feel a great deal of guilt for it. Therefore, this causes him to think that it's entirely his fault that he's “killing people”, that these families are mad at him for making them lose a loved one. "I am making you cry again, I'm being blamed," "after stabbing you with my words, the blood started to flow, and slowly stained my white," it got to his head- this is where he truly starts feeling the affect of the words of the families, and is probably why he brings up "his victims and their families" to Es in his drama track, because they were the main reason he felt this way. "Time tells me the reason its ok to be here, it won't stop even if I do," this is a clearer interpretation of one of the lines at the beginning of the song, which shows that he recognizes these things will happen whether or not he's there, but I think his want to help others conflicts with his own mental. "Connecting you with me to keep you alive, you're still living, the invitation I can't take back, lying, replacing with hope," I think this might refer to all of the "it's ok"'s and "you're going to be fine, you have a high chance to live through this surgery" "you're in good hands", reassurances that he gave out that ended up not being true, albeit out of his control. He's connecting with patients to help them cling onto the hope of being alive, and letting them down... once again, wearing his mental down for lying to so many people, for "letting" so many people die. After we see his failed saves, symbolized by the wilted flowers covered at 1:05, he finally starts asking to not be forgiven, like he truly thinks that he's doing something wrong, plagued with the idea of how many people he now considers "killed" and not just had "die under his care". I'm thinking maybe that he "wants it to end" because, cycling back to the "time tells me the reason it's ok to be here, it won't stop even if I do", the only way he can free himself of the guilt of not being able to keep people alive is to die, himself. This also makes sense in context with one of his later lines from trial two, where he says "I said that I wished to not be forgiven. But… because I was forgiven, I was able to save the lives of the other prisoners. That’s the truth. …I can’t ask you to not forgive me anymore. If I’m not alive, then I can’t protect their lives." (when talking about the other prisoners after providing those who were voted guilty medical help) I think silently, by voting him innocent, we've kind of pressured him back into thinking that he needs to be of service to live his life. ... thanks for coming to my tedtalk. that's probably a better essay than i''d've ever written while in school.

え～なにその表情サイコーなんですけど... これを仲村宗悟くんが歌ってんだよね なんかもう神曲って分かるわ...

愛する人をまた作り出すために、立場を利用して人を殺していって、継ぎ接ぎで作ったけど結局失敗したって感じした！

最後の人型にされた植物の集まりがシドウ個人が助けたいと思っていた誰かなのか、フランケンシュタインの怪物みたいなものなのかで悩む。 どちらにしても、医者という立場を利用して患者からその素材となるものを集めていた感じが倫理・法的に触れそうだなといった印象。 ラストの描写から彼の試みは失敗、ミルグラムに収監されている今の彼はある意味抜け殻みたいな状態なんじゃないかと予想。 こうと決めた一度きりの生き方を失敗したから、もう終わらせて欲しいと願っている感じ、 しかしこれ、どうするべきなのだろう？ 前から思っていたが、赦すか否かの心情と何かしらの裁きを与えるか否かの対処を、別々のものとして考えた方がいい気がする。 特に今回彼自身が死刑を望んでいるところから、仮にこちらが赦さず最悪死刑を与えたとしてもそれは彼の望み通りのものを与えたに過ぎず、本当に罰となり得るのか？と疑問に思う。 赦せるからこそ裁く、赦せないからこそ裁かない、なんて一見矛盾したような答えも成立し得るのではないか？と思う。 こちらから裁きという形で一つの区切りを与えるのではなく、生き続けて自身の苦悩と罪悪感に苛まれ続けるのが罰になる人だっている。

花と歌詞だけならいろんな方が考察してるようなことで合ってると思うんだけど、2番の食事シーンが本当に不穏すぎるんだよな どうしてザクロがあるのよ…… 今更ミルグラム履修してるので2審からのシドウ先生が楽しみです

2:53 ダブルベットに一人で寝てる...

Lyric: NO yume no naka de Mata nakareteiru semerareteiru NO koroshita mayoi ga Iki wo hisomete uso wo kaideiru Tokutoku iu no koko ni itatte ii riyuu wo Tomattatte kienai sa Sanzan naichatte sorya sou da Kimerunda masa ni ichido kiri no sono ikikata wo Throw down dareka no dareka ni Tsunagu anata wa ikiteiru Throw down modorenai shoutai wo Damashiteiru kibou ni okikaete Throw down mou ii yo, mou ii yo Dou shitatte hanarenai Douka yurusanai de kure Dakara owari ga hoshii yo Throw down Sashita kotoba kaeri chi ni nari Shiro wo someteiku Naa donna kanji dakke Ataeru tame ni ubau kimochi wa Dondon usumatte kan datte aji ga shinainda Fuyou nara kyouminai ne Acchi kocchi tte muda jan ne Imi nante doko ni ari mo nashi mo sou ii kata de Throw down dareka wa dareka to Onaji omosa ni hanarenai Throw down erabubeki yuuretsu wo Kanaeteiru zetsubou wo sashikonde Zettai tadashii koto ga inochi no kazu aru you ni Mou hajimaru owari kanatte yatto sukuwarerunda ne Saa yukkuri me wo tojite koukai nanka kazatte Dareka no tame no anata wo negaou Nee dare ga yatte kitatte mata kawaranai hyoujou de Wakaranai kara koso kowakunai ki ga shita Throw down moraru nado mousou da Asa ga kite mo tsumi no mama Throw down iro no nai kanjou wo Nokoshita mama dokoka e ikeru ka na Throw down dareka no dareka ni Tsunagu anata wa ikiteiru Throw down modorenai shoutai wo Damashiteiru kibou ni okikaete Throw down mou ii yo, mou ii yo Dou shitatte hanarenai Douka yurusanai de kure Dakara owari ga hoshii yo Throw down