@@snek1356 until you realize Yi Sang's mirror self (Sang Yi) has wings made of broken mirror shards, and is one of the main struggling points of Yi Sang's personality that he doesn't have them. Until he finally realizes that he always had them at the end of Canto 4 ends where one wing coalesces from broken mirror shards.
@@kyoken8691 His "wings" may of been literal there but in general they're metaphorical for the freedom to do and develop what he wants without repercussion or compromise. he doesn't want literal wings to fly about with.
In the game, the first two parts of the song are actually played separately for each voice, it makes the dissonance a lot more obvious as they're not actually replying to each other. Just saying very similar things at the same time.
In essence, they both believed they were the reason for their partner’s suffering and they would be better if they never were by their side in the first place… when in reality, it was the opposite. Heathcliff was Catherine’s everything, and vice versa. Without the other in their life, sorrow turned into anger at themselves, anger turned into atonement, and ….. most of this comment section has played Canto VI. We all know how this turned out.
To talk about the themes of the story without spoiling the story itself: The story is about a relationship falling apart because of miscommunication, but also major themes of self-loathing. The two lovers each think that they're the cause of the other's misery (hence 'I must be the reason why'). Classism is also a theme, with one of them thinking that he's naturally "a witless brigand, a miserable wretch, a savage beast" and that will never change despite how much he tries. The self-loathing also gives you a darker interpretation for the 'Delete' portion.
This song is even better in game. When you fight Erlking the deeper voice is the one singing, but when you switch phases to [ ] fight the lyrics are instead sung by the lighter voice. It was glorious
As a quickish way of explaining the story: its about 2 people blaming themselves for the suffering of the other Thats why they both say the same things. Now, for a more indepth explanation (Spoilers below) In limbus company, paralel universes are a thing more or less. And in every single world pretty much, these two always end poorly. Neither gathers up the courage to confess to the other, and eventually one of them dies, leading the other to blame themselves. It goes to the point where two of those alternative versions (one of each part of this couple) decides to travel from world to world killing their paralel selves, wanting to "delete" every single instance of themselves to prevent the other from suffering. The "Round and round we go" reffers to how this is something that has repeated in every single world, and how, in their eyes, it will repeat as long as they remain. There are two more things worth mentioning. One, ingame the voices are separate until the last phase of a bossfight, showing how incomplete they are without the other. And two (and last), towards the end of the song, the lyrics change from essentially saying "I must be the reason you suffered and I wish you a life without me" to "Losing you hurt me so much that I am lying to myself when I say that you would be better off without me"
Seeing how everyone is going "lmao you think thats methaporical? haha" makes me feel like Catharsis who hasnt played the games has a better understanding of them than the average project moon fan. Like... yes the lyrics might describe something thats happening literally in the screen but the games are on itself a bunch of metaphors. Abnormalities in LobCorp are born from things like fears and desires, Ruina has Angela learning what it means to be human by watching the different people in the city, Limbus has each of its characters face their own past and traumas while also die over and over for the sake of the company they work for. Most people feel like The City is written like in a "would that be fucked up or what?" way while in reality everything is a mirror for something else. tl;dr: good analysis.
THANK YOU Like, for days I've read comments about why it's literal and like, neat, but I'm talking about the POETRY Cassie writes for the verses mainly. "And the hope inside your eyes have been stolen" "And the hearts we held so tight won't stay broken" "The message has already been said through patches of violet." That last one being the most literal, but definitely playing as a metaphor too. This is definitely one of their more literal tracks, but Cassie will never stop tossing beautiful little nuggets of quotation in everything lol
@@CatharsisYT Heathcliff's story is based on Wuthering Heights, if you have happened to be forced through that in high school in the US Hence Heath and Cathy (Catherine). All 12 major LC characters are based off classic works of literature from various cultures, some more loosely, some more literally, this is more on the literal end for sure
@@CatharsisYT very late, but I wholeheartedly agree. I think one of the best parts of Mili PM songs are just the storytelling via music, both lyrical and musical. I's so good that both people with and without context can understand and get to the same conclusion that the song wants to tell. Their lyrics have both literal accuracy and metaphorical depth. Anyways, if it counts for anything, not that it has to, I'm pretty sure that all the "haha you think the lyrics are only metaphorical?" comments are just PM fans coping with the horrors of Limbus storytelling. Your guesses and analysis were so accurate you essentially just described the plot of the whole Canto. Not that that makes the comments any less annoying to read, but yeah. Anyways, I like your analysis. It's in depth, spot on, and I too wish that the lyrics were only metaphorical (
The song is amazing and the analysis was quite great as well! Without any spoilers, it is about a love story that got denied due to poor communication and jealousy, which eventually leads to a lot of sadness, obsession, anger and self destruction from both sides. It is based on the book Wuthering Heights, so it's pretty depressing overall. One part that is missed from just the short video is that initially the song is only from the perspective of the guy and you are lead to believe that he is the only one who went through some really insane self destructive behaviour - but the song still feels incomplete at this stage and it plays earlier than you would expect in the story. So in the finale, the song is played from both perspectives as the fight phases change and eventually it leads to the duet and the realization that they were very similar.
your read on the situation is surprisingly really spot on!! as mentioned, it's about two lovers who kept misunderstanding one another but refusing to just come out and say what they mean, leading to a drastic response on both parts that is only understood to be a misunderstanding when it's too late to go back. I really love the presentation in game, because only one set of vocals plays against the respective boss, with the bosses and the vocals switching as the fight progresses, so there's a constant sense of being incomplete with the call and response in the song being a call with no response. it's only in the final boss phase, with the last verse of the song included, that both voices play together :')
This song is probably my favorite way of incorporating a boss theme into the battle. During the fight you switch between fighting two bosses and each boss uses one of the sets of vocals until it eventually becomes a duet for the final phase.
It was a good guess, trully But you failed to get one crucial detail "I must be the reason why" "You must tell me all this lies" "Wishing you a better life" "I still believe in this lie" "That you'll live a better life" *"Without ME by YOUR side"* They are not really in disagreement with each other, but with themselves They chase each other, yes, but do so trying to get themselves removed from the other's lives.... You can only be happy without me, I am the cause of your suffering But at the same time thay can't really be apart from one another because they love each other Is the most toxic Romeo & Juliet relationship you'll ever find, and its called Wuthering Heights Check the book if you haven't And keep in mind, almost everyone is an unreliable narrator there
You were remarkably spot on with it being about a breakdown of communication, the crux of the issue is that the two characters could never be honest with each other about their feelings to the very end. So now they both believe themselves to be responsible for all the misery and despair the other experienced, and think the other would be better off without them in their life. Also, the Delete is not metaphorical, they both want to actually delete every version of themselves from every parallel world, because in both of their eyes, the other can only be happy if they do not exist to cause them misery. This has instantly become my favourite Limbus Company Mili song, both for the song itself and for how perfectly it tells this story, because is an earlier fight you hear this same song except it's only the deeper (Male) lines as you only fight one of them, but in this version you repeatedly switch between fighting both during the fight which is when the song changes between the deeper (Male) and higher (Female) versions depending on which phase you're in and who you're fighting until the very end when both sing at the same time. Through Patches of Violet is a genuine masterpiece of storytelling.
very based for not waiting even though the youtube compression hurts my soul--i was anxious to get someone's thoughts on it as much as i am to hear a solid copy of it
So here’s the story explained poorly, the words worst love triangle where no one has the balls to say what they’re thinking so they start killing themselves and stealing from a guy crying about a violin
@@monikaisdonewiththeinterne2039 right, it kinda didn’t feel that way to me since it wasn’t a question of who Catherine would love, the conflict was purely about whether Cathy and heath could talk to each other or not.
The song starts with the high and low voices seperate in all but the last phase really emphasizing the "aloneness" each character experiences without eachother. at the last phase they come back together at the end as almost an understanding between the two parties being found. The song also seems to be very "bach fughe like" and additionally this limbus company cantos basis is on an old book called "wuthering heights" which was published in the late 19th century. really cool piece! Note: Made this before your analysis so I may be repeating some of the things you said.
“I couldn’t wait” Very valid, man… I couldn’t wait either! My favourite Mili song now! My favourite part is the “I must be the reason why, you’ve given up your smiles, and the hope inside your eyes get stolen!” The entire segment is AMAZING.
Love this song so much. A duet of two lovers who will never find each other. They could never be honest with each other, and so when one finally left, they both wished for each other, but could never meet again. They always want to be together, but can never agree, as you said. Also, spoilers. Limbus includes a concept called identities, alternate versions of characters that a player can use to help in a fight. The song has to do with not only the lovers themselves, but their two alternate selves, each wishing to kill every version of themselves to save the other, yet wanting to love the other as well. Their boss fight has them on two different realities, they can hear each other, but will never be able to meet, never be able to agree. They will only ever see eachother, through patches of violet.
You know, for someone who hasn't actually played the game or seen what happens your analysis and guesses continue to be on point, that's genuinely impressive (and the reason these reaction videos are the ones I look forward the most)
Canto 6 Spoilers below! I wanna say, the way they present this in the canto is interesting. Usually, you go into a "dungeon" and in the final fight the song starts to build up (as in more lyrics starts to appear after some time.) But in this Canto, there is no dungeon. It starts playing when you fight Erlking Heathcliff. The moment you first hear it, you can tell it feels _incomplete_ until you start to fight at the last node. The fight against him and Every Catherine included both "male" and "female" side, completing each other.
The moment you break Oldcliiff's first threshold, get the cutscene, and enter the Every Cathy phase, her side of the duet taking over the song? Now THAT was the Mili Peak Moment of the Canto. The moment everything about the lyrics truly click in your head. And that's just the fantastic gameplay-music combo Limbus does time and again 🔥
there's actually a person doing the mix male and female version sing it one by one and at both at same time But it's gonna be become long loop version like in game, but still good one when you can hear male and female sing it like it's from their own pov
"Among the tragedies of the mixed world of possibilities of two men and women who believe that their loved ones will be happy only when each other disappears, a world of only one possibility with a small hope of getting to know each other's hearts in it"
With playing through 6-48 when it first came out, compared to listening to the song now, it's two different emotions. You seemed to have a great grasp on what the song is portraying, but it hits on a whole another level when playing through the game itself with the music evolving, switching around throughout the fight. Within context, the song does its job the best. And as for the "Delete" segment, that's not all that metaphorical...
People always want the big Mili boss fight songs to be reacted to, but a lot of Studio EIM's work for the regular battle themes are also very interesting. They don't have lyrics to convey themeing, but they manage to do so with instrumentation and lietmotif, and a lot of them are absolute bangers. Some of my favorites are Canto II B1 and C1, Canto III C1, Canto IV B1 and E1, Canto V F1, and Canto VI B1- Though really, Studio EIM has shown incredible range and basically all of the regular fight music from Limbus Company is incredible and worth a listen.
Here is a little thing about Mili's songs, they are both very metaphorical, and simultaneously very literal. Without context the lyrics seem like metaphors for something, but with context you realize just how literal much of what is said is.
As others have already mentioned, the story is about 2 lovers who think themselves responsible for each others miseries. One point I want to add is that it was implied alot that due to poor communication, the 2 lovers head on 2 parallel paths rather than their fate being intertwined. This is represented in the song when they sing in parallel of course and is a great representation of how love is sometimes like. Wanting the best for one another but being afraid of stating ones true feelings in fear of rejection, causing each other to self sacrifice in the name of love even if it was never wanted by the other person.
A youtube channel named NotherWael made a remix for this song with the in game scenes and phases. Even if you don't play the game, it will give you better idea of what's happening while the song is playing. You don't need to make it a content but if I really recommend to check that remix out by yourself, it will be enjoyable
Not only does the two parts play separately for most the fight (only coming together for the end), but the length of the fight means you hear it loop the first section a fair bit, “round and round we go” Also, both halves of the relationship/boss fight is an alternative version of a character from here looking to kill every iteration of themselves so the other won’t be miserable. Those two never get to be on screen together or hear each other. Love drove them apart, and led them to believe the other was better off without them. Your Heathcliff can mend the distance, but not soon enough to reach a happy ending
This mix, I was curious which he'd use, I like some of the other mixes more especially the ones that have the "male" vocals and the female vocals switching off, especially since that's closer to what they do in game. However, this probably pretty close to the version that mili will release.
I mean thing about pre official songs is that the in game version is mixed differently than official version, like some people prefer in game or mix versions of Compass to official :D this one I don't know if I like them starting song with duet when it starts in game with them seperately, but I wouldn't know how official would do it
I was waiting for the official differences… and then this time there just wasn't any. I guess the official mixed track was included in its entirety in the game files this time or something.
Hey Carthasis, had you thought about giving Bulbel by mili a try? It's pretty good song in my opinion, if so I'd love to see your reaction video bout it one day
Yes!, and maybe check out Ender Lilies OST to, because they are made and if im not wrong 100% by Mili. My recommendations if you decided to check it out is. Bloom - Outro, Bible - Intro, Accolade - Outro, and Bloom - Intro.
A bit unfortunate that you chose the 3 mins ver, the whole song is actually over 7 minutes long. The one you used unfortunately had the "round and round we go" part order mixed up with the climax one. It's supposed to go with cassie solo it with the deep vocal version then the high one then back to the deep one with some lyrics changed and also back to the high one with also the lyrics changed slightly. Then it supposed to play the duet you heard from this one.
It's actually incredibile how close you were to guessing pretty much the story behind the Song To boil it down ti the simplest terms, the story Is a Classic tragedy, with two star crossed lovers that end badly becouse of their own characters flaws, in this case, impulsiveness and lnability to communicate their feelings They end up thinking that the other doesn't love them, and they end up blaming themselves for all of the pain the other goes through One of them decides to leave, change and inprove and come back as a Better Person worthy of love (The First chorus about how each of them says "i must be" they assume, not ask) The other takes It as abbandonment, and decides to end their own Life (Deleates) The First comes back too late to save the second, and in their last moments they realize that they unconditionally loved each other all the time, but it's too late (The second chorus with "i might be the reason why" they finally stop assuming and ask the questione)
Problem with this song (even probably in official release): That it's not an actual complete experience. I think it goes: 1 voice sing one part (male-ish version of Mili voice), then another voice sing different part (her normal/female voice), then they finally sing in duet full version (version which you listened to). Found original script (and ye, that version is 13 minutes) : "Follows how the song plays in-game: both (intro), male, female, instrumental, male, female, instrumental, female, both."
While this one is really good, I kinda wish he could have experienced the split parts of the songs, because it makes the real duet portion so much more powerful. Basically, minus the beginning portion and the end portion, the higher and lower voices are split into their own sections. Splicing them together like this, as well down as it was, defeats some of the themeing established within the actual battle(s) themselves. Support the official release of course, but if you want to get more of a feel of what I mean, even just listening to it in your own time, check out BlueTune's (In-Game ver. mix).
How did you manage to get the theme of communication and misunderstanding so easily without knowing the game's story beats? I know Mili packs a lot of reference to the story's events but damn
So a cool thing about the overlapping voices: They represent two phases in this bossfight (the fight switches between two different enemies and the soundtrack changes along with it), but you actually hear the first voice's lines isolated way before you hear the second. This is because you fight the enemy associated with the first voice about 5 stages before you hear the full song, so you enter into the final stage with the expectation to hear this song, and then BOOM, phase switch, second voice. It kind of lulls you into a false sense of security and renews itself right as you're getting used to it. 2:16 The final bossfight eventually actually introduces static (the background of the stage glitches between different universes).
Very close, but as you said the portrayal matters. All I can say is despite both sides sounding very similar intentwise, until the very end, it stays an incomplete duet.
I would recommend you to read the game story if playing is not an option for you. The story is hella fire. And what you believe to metaphorical might not be. Experiencing the ingame story with the song is the ultimate way to enjoy Mili song.
I wish there was a way to convey how different the experience is in-game compared to the individual track, both are really something to hear. You really hit the theme points of the song on the head, the message being so 'direct' also probably being an important aspect of it.