Military Surplus Sunday - ALICE Frame Fakes! 

The older LC1 and LC2 packs have a turnstile on the kidney pad. The 2nd gen have a retention buckle and the 3rd generation have the nexus buckles on the kidney pads.

I have 2. Both LC2 military issue. One green has the north American print and the black one just says 7S590-US. It was sprayed with a black coating prior to issue to me in 1990 for Desert Shield /Storm. Buckles are the same but the pad is waist slightly different

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Your Issued ruck frame is from the last generation both of mine were issued to me. Both 2nd gen. Lol still have them and the medium and Larger Alice. Good video. The frame should be marked US

Great info. I scored an LC2 from my local Goodwill for 15 bucks. Genuine, this vid helped me confirm it. Great looking pack, can't wait to go for a ruck with it!

Good to know. Thanks.

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Yesterday i actually went to my local army navy store andbpicked up 2 frames and medium alice packs and straps i looked at the frames with a fine tooth comb also lol

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Ours in 78 did not have a padded back pad or waist belt. There was a wide nylon strap with a turnbuckle to adjust for your back and the waist belt, if you were lucky enough to get one from CIF, was a 1 in strap with a quick release buckle. Pretty much useless. We were issued ALICE medium packs 78-82.

i have multiple alice packs. and have done hundreds of videos in the forest on mt hood in oregon where i use it. mushroom hunting. hiking. fishing etc. now i have 2 of them. but i was watching a video recently about alice packs. and this expert on alice gear. etc. said the army had 2 or 3 different versions of the alice pack frame. just as there are some m16 or earlier m14 pouches that are slightly longer than other versions of it. so it would be cool to see each real issued version of the alice frame. and see the differences between the 3 variants and what is the weight difference between the 3 versions of the army issued alice pack frames. and i dont mean size. i mean 3 versions of the alice frame for the medium alice pack.

My frame is black, also it’s from the 80’s plus purchase at Fort Bragg

Are you still doing the surplus Sundays?

Thanks this videop helped me while shopping for a ALICE pack and frame hopefully it will be enough to get a legit one.

Tks

I got a amazon one, which is pretty identical to the right. Meant for a prop to enchance my proton pack. Its pretty close to authentic for me as its just a prop. The Plexiglass on the other hand. Thats a barrel of fun. Bending clips before I go to drill marks for it as well will be fun too. The joys of making a motherboard and framing for the alice frame. Fake or not. Has been a fun ride so far and I have no regrets what so ever!

So, the reproduction frames aren't going to hold up to the same weight/abuse as the original frames but the originals were rated to about 60-70 lbs, but often had their weight rating exceeded based on necessity. My question is, if you aren’t regularly meeting/exceeding the weight limit of the pack, would the difference between the original and reproduction be negligible? I feel it might not matter unless you’re exposed by some purist. Good video, thank you for the information.

I love a good old Alice pack and frame I recently handed mine down to my niece and nephew for when we go backpacking and I got me a Blackhawk sof

Do you have a reliable link to buy a real Alice pack frame LC2?

1 lb. 2 oz. lighter for the Amazon frame......I'll take it.

Oh well I bought the black one from Rothco... not gonna use it with a heavy military back pack, but rather with a lightweight Proton pack for my Ghostbusters cosplay thanks for the vid

Do you still have the Rothco/knockoff one on the right? Would you be willing to sell? Thanks for the cool video.

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Good video.but not 100% accurate. The reproduction frame is based off of the original LC 1, which didn't have the extra curve on the cross bars that the later LC 2 had. Also, the plastic buckle on the kidney pad on your LC 2 frame is a very late addition. I haven't ever seen an actual USGI one like that in the wild myself, maybe one day I will. I should break out the kitchen scale and compare the weights of my Canadian C2 riveted frame, the Alice LC 2 and my Canadian welded C2. Now I am curious.

Just FYI, looks like a copy of Otzi the Iceman’s packframe, when it was found the bindings had weathered away, but that’s not bad after being in mountain ice for over 5,200 years Luckily he didn’t have an Alice frame, they wouldn’t have found anything after 5,200 years…

I have a frame that says either CCN US or CCM US. Is this a real one? I can't find infor on it.

friend! I have an origenal backpack.I need advice on how to fasten the straps of the backpack at the bottom? how to fix it correctly? can you record a short video? thank you very much😃

My question is, will the medium or large authentic military alice backpack fit the fake frame and does anybody still sell the shelves?

those shoulder pads are not mil spec. there is no quick release on the left one. that is both packs.

Well hopefully my Scamazon holds up live and learn wanted a tool bag🤦‍♂️

The rothco frames, straps, and kidney pad are pure junk. I had the straps fail me at the worst time. They just cant hold up to the weight and stress. Its the same with most military surplus etc. Buy real, buy once.

Hey soliders, I just want it to be a Ghostbuster!

The Rothco is trash. I loaded it up about 60lbs and the frame warped and broke

If you ever hold an issue ALICE LC1 or 2 frame and then hold a copycat you'll instantly know the difference. I bought a Rothco frame off of Amazon, an American company. The frame was made in China, of thinner materials and poor quality workmanship. I immediately sent it back and bought a used GI issue frame off eBay.

tofu dreg construction. It wouldnt be bad if it admitted it was a reproduction in the online description but china cant even do that.

A surplus (not A N ) store where I live sale the reproduction ones and yeah they are cheap made.

Alice packs frames are horrible for tall people like me...6'2". The AC 1606 frame is good...with some adjustments.

so im in the airport in 2011~ where the f... is my bag ? my medium A.L.I.C.E finally comes onto the conveyer last. its open and my stuffs half hanging out

from my experince in the army 1979 both are fake