@@clintcook8691 My own 240 card lists do not have Gea's Blessing. I doubt that I need them against mill when my list is already four times the standard size :p I do think that you are right though. Players that play Gaea's *on top* of such a deck size are likely big mill dislikers.
@@smegmalasagna okay genuinely, why the 200+ card singleton decks everywhere? It's all I get paired against in best of ones, it kinda doesn't feel like I'm playing the same format
@@QuietlyHere666 I think that it is because there is no giant repercussion for it in BO1. In BO3 it makes your sideboard meaningless but in BO1 there are a lot of cards that can act as additional copies of certain effects (Like the 2 mana kill spells) and so having a giant deck size doesn't make your deck as bad as you'dd think. Besides that I think that it's either because players hate mill or they find it funky. (I'm the latter)
What the heck was up with these match-ups?! Really wild. It's like the match maker paired you against every deck that would have an advantage against mill. Please play this again!
@@-Karnage I had about 5 people on reddit tell me the matchmaker isn't rigged in ranked because "woTc sAiD iT wAsN't". Long time viewers know this is not the opponents you see when playing non-mill decks in timeless.
That was the strangest matchups I have ever seen on this channel. That almost felt like watching Mono Black Magic, but none of those triple digit decks were also life gain decks.
19:25 is the hardest I have ever laughed watching this channel. It was cinematic. Gaea's Blessing being the last card milled just takes it into the stratosphere. A thing of beauty.
Oathbreaker is a format I kinda wish had gotten more popularity, although I remember when it started out the ban list needed a lot of work. Hope it's doing better now!
Crim, did you forget Arena chooses your opponents depending on your own card pool? If you play a mill strategy, of course most of your opponents will have anti mill strategies in their main deck. I play a thief deck in Brawl, and I most of my opponents have a hexproof/ward strategies in their main deck too.
I’ve been grinding mill on the ladder too and it’s crazy how many decks play like 100-250 cards. I’d say like 50% of my games op is playing well over 60 cards
You cant convince me they dont skew matchmaking so certain decks play each other. Brawl is a casual format but omg my mill deck plays so many graveyard decks and then when i switch i get zero
I swear the match-maker and shuffler is at least a bit rigged. Every single time i play my other decks, i get 60 cards decks match up, but EVERY TIME i bust out my mill deck, suddenly everyone got those 250 piles of junk that somehow top deck the best responses against my deck
But see when you play mill you look at the opponents decks When you aren't playing mill you rarely do that. For all you know you encounter 200 card decks regularly
@@DimT670 i always check decks each game because most player with decks more than 60 cards are not really good. I can change my playstyle with that in mind
@@DimT670 Normally 200+ decks are pretty distinct from the 60 cards ones. There's a lack of synergy and you don't see as many multiples on the field. Moreover, a good portion of 60 card decks fit a certain archetype to the point that you can predict their plays based on how much mana they have. It might be that people don't look at card count, but usually it's pretty noticeable when someone is playing an oversized deck.
What I think happened in that person's head: "Why are you playing 125 cards singleton in timeless?" "Brawl wants me to have only 100 cards and I didn't manage to cut anything "
Against affinity why didnt you just field + archive trap and then cast hideous laughter? Seems a lot more likely to get there than milling 4 with the enchantment
Probably an unpopular opinion, but I really do think mill should be strong. Deck size would be a relevant parameter to consider instead of the past 30 year meta of "all decks over 60 cards are strictly worse than their 60-card counterpart." More relevant choices (ie do you go for the efficient 60 loadout and leave yourself susceptible to mill, or play it safe and go 80?) leads to more play diversity.
In response to the Gaea's Blessing he needs to have a Tormod's Crypt or some other similar GY exiling effect handy so they don't get those cards back. Tasha's is good but doesn't exile the existing cards that are already in the GY so no help there unfortunately
I’m entirely certain Arena puts you against overloaded decks when you play mill. I always get 100+ card decks on opponents when I play mill, and only then.
You beat white leyline with the crab and thassas's laughter, cards that mill but don't target :) Edit: oh yeah, the orb mills without targeting the opponent. nice
It feels like every other person I play against on arena is playing every card they own in one deck. Why use brain cells to learn how to build a deck when you can just spend 1500$ on mythical and play all of them in one deck?
Only Crim could manage to find the two people on the timeless ladder trying to play EDH when playing mill. What the heck were those games? 😂 Everyone is too scared of the mill decks.
As a fellow mill player, I feel your pain. Bo3 is even worse because of people that run a single Gaea's Blessing in their sideboard regardless of color...
the matches against the 116 cards and 200+ cards deck were not random. MTGA is using analysis machine learning tools to match you up against deck that are strong against yours. So after a few matches, it saw that your deck "shoulddo worse" against big fat deck with many cards. You're not the first to experience that.
Only the saltiest of timmies would play a 200 card deck with gaes blessing, but I respect the dedication to playing a horrible deck with exactly 1 good match up.
I cannot possibly understand why you would just not play archive trap right away in the second to last game. You just played mesmeric orb, they aren't going to see that and start playing into mill...
I literally never see players with decks above 60 unless safron Olive or Crim is playing mill. It always annoys me because I know those aren't most games but it's so annoying when you want to see how a deck preforms and you literally get paired up with the handful of decks that make that not possible. oh well what can ya do.
