Millennium Falcon or Starship Enterprise? - Fan Question | StarTalk 

+Zedek " Computer.... Playboy Mansion circa 2015.... " Computer - 'Program complete...enter when ready'. :-)

+celt67 you dont want 2015, you want 1900s. Computer has corrected your error

+celt67 it's nothing dirty. the grotto just has a REALLY nice pool!

the holo deck alone is enough reason

+Zedek Would it be able to replicate some dank bud?

+Charley Deppner The Enterprise could be piloted by on person, if all systems are rerouted to the bridge. It also has shields, phasers that shoot in a 360 degree field, and it has greater warp capabilities. It's really more like comparing apples to oranges though. Or a paper airplane to an actual airplane. If you are talking about what would be more fun? Enterprise has the holodeck, which could make it seem like you are piloting any ship you feel like piloting.

+Timothy Vreeland I presume we are ignoring the "Encounter at Farpoint" episode of TNG. But I will concede that, that was "enterprise + visitor" not just the enterprise engines on its own, so the falcon's engines vs ONLY the enterprise's engines then yes, falcon is faster.

+Timothy Vreeland Eh, the cannon is in one galaxy with couple of baby galaxies nearby. Would be safe to say that the falcon is flying through just one galaxy.

I guess theirs is a lot bigger!

Paranitis So operational crewman, e.g. Engineering, helmsmen, etc. for the Enterprise is redundancy outside the need for 24 (Earth) hour operation.

Except they Can't make it Because there are numbers that the D Class enterprise has over The millennium Falcon spaceship With the federation And using the other enterprise Starships Like the D class enterpriseAnd that's way to much for The Millennium Falcon spaceship can not handle With its enforcers.

+Kaleb Adams Bow chicka bow-wow

+Kaleb Adams If you're out exploring strange new worlds, why do you need a holodeck?

+Patrick Bright Dude.. Crazy alien sex fantasies, duh.

+Patrick Bright Because sometimes the planets don't turn out like you'd want.

+Kaleb Adams Holodeck + Fantasies = Me, Jessica Alba, Kuroki Meisa and a lot of lube... Oh you meant normal shit? Pfft...no thanks.

thats exactly what i was thinking. millenium falcon isnt near the size of the enterprise, they aren't even the same class of starship.

+Herb Toker How about vs Death Star?

+Tommy Aragón actually what he said was that the Enterprise had an extensive maintenance crew comprised of scientists and engineers, whereas the Falcon had absolute bupkis

+DeltaGamer I think I would take the Death Star, remove the shitty laser crap from it and create a perfect city.

+Herb Toker In your comparison, you need to switch out the Enterprise for Deepspace 9's Defiant and you have a fine battle.

Welp,MF is a Blockade Runner......

I heard that Neil Degrase Tyson also explained that the question is like comparing a warship to a UPS delivery truck.

A volley of photon torpedoes would take out a Star Destroyer.

@@EddieDexterStewart Phasers would send a Star Destroyer's shields from 100 to 0 in a fraction of a second. after that, the Empire would be begging for mercy!

Well the d is

you said it! =)

Jeff Woods YEEES!!! My thoughts exactly!

lol , I’ve never heard something so wrong, your saying a tiny little enterprise would survive a Death Star

@@caeser3166 yep,Enterprise comes out of warp Mr. Worf, teleport the torpedo to the core of the Death Star, boom

@@caeser3166 “bigger does not mean better” besides death star vs the enterprises is kinda like comparing the ww2 battleship yamato vs a modern corvvete

@@caeser3166 *upgrades to Sovereign Class* Now we're talkin'.

Star Wars Theory EXACTLY

Omg i watch u star wars theory !!!!! And yes he does lack on the force

I love both equally for different reasons but the Enterprise does win over the Falcon.

Hah! Butthurt!!!!!!

Recall that worf and really the entire bridge crew were surprised when being attacked with lasers in TNG “conundrum” all the ships in SW utilize lasers. Although I will say that hyperdrive is a faster way to travel likely similar to borg transwarp conduits as the falcon could cross the galaxy in a matter of months if not weeks while it would’ve taken voyager 75 years at max warp

Like The crew members of the federation also as USS enterprise back in them up Teleporting them or protecting them With It's Shields that are Enough to really take the tie Fighters down those smaller space ships With the crew members firing At it Like their phasers Gives the federation a huge advantage With the USS enterprise teleporting Because this is a spaceship you can not defeat.

Star Wars uses outdated World War 2 dogfight tactics in space battles, while Star Trek uses modern tactics combined with smarts and wits like Jojo characters.

***** well duh :)

+oO PPH Oo I can't decide which way to go with my comment. 1 - I am Commander Shepard and this is my favorite comment on the Citadel. or 2 - What do you mean, YOUR Normandy?! That baby has been MINE for years, pal... ;)

+oO PPH Oo U r da bro, Sheppard.

+oO PPH Oo Hell yeah.

+oO PPH Oo Normandy is indeed cool. But the enterprise is bigger, more powerfull, more comfortable ( for the crew) faster, and more resiliant. Picking the normandy would be sheer preference over its design...

+Patrick Bright "Blazing about wherever you want without anyone telling you what to do." Erm... how well did that really go for Han?

+Michael Wetjen Pretty well.....until it all went to hell for him. Goes to show, don't mess around with drug running. And if you do get into drug running, don't dump your cargo at the first sign of an Imperial patrol.

The Falcon was used for criminal activity, acts of war, and even overthrowing tyrannical government.

So many first on Star Trek , the show was ahead of its time

+Robin Ophalvens (FusionRobin) And yet, he did it in twelve. How amazing is that? =D

+Robin Ophalvens (FusionRobin) Ships can fly closer to gravitational masses, i.e. black holes and suns, if they are faster. You can think of Han's statement as saying that he can take a much shorter route because of how fast his ship is compared to all the others.

+Robin Ophalvens (FusionRobin) It has been well established that the Kessel Run is a region of space full of black holes and other spacial anomalies. This means that, to get through it, pilots have to plot courses that are safe for their ships. Because of the unique modifications to the Millennium Falcon, Han was able to plot a course that only required a distance of 12.5 parsecs to traverse and that's just in the movie. George Lucas himself stated that what made the Falcon so amazing was not it's pure speed but it's heavily modified navigation computer. We can also tell that the ships in Star Wars are, by far, faster, especially when you consider the actual distances and times traveled. In Star Trek, The star ship Voyager, one of the most advanced Federation ships ever built, traveling on it's own power, at maximum warp the entire way, would take an estimated 75 years to travel 75,000 light years; the slowest ships in Star Wars can travel 120,000 light years in a few days.

+Junjie Hao That's how I interpret it, Han isn't stating how quickly he did the Kessel Run, He's stating how short his route was.

Not only that, but I don't remember the Enterprise destroying any Death Stars either.

Bwleon7 Kind of irrelevant ?

@@mrandrossguy9871 it is completely relevant!

Enterprise could disintegrate the Death Star! [cue TNG/TMP theme]

Eeeeeeeeh... (Looking the Enterprise's arsenal)

lasers vs Starfleet shields = shields at 100%! Star Destroyer shields vs a phaser bank = smoked Star Destroyer. (um, my fav!)

+elchamber i agree, but he didnt come up with the question

+elchamber A NEW Carrier vs a WW2 Bomber that is...

+elchamber No, it's more like a container ship with a few aftermarket guns vs an aircraft carrier. The Falcon isn't a warship. It only does well in fights because of Han's modifications and skill as a pilot. A more fair comparison would be the Executor vs the Enterprise. And, frankly, I'd still have to go with the Enterprise. Even turbolaser energy output is a fraction of phaser output. It just doesn't compare.

+elchamber It's like comparing a Lexus to a Kia. Enterprise has a lot more power and longevity I would think.

+Kris Sisk Hehehehe....ohhh I know not to wade into the comments but this made me laugh. I mean wow. Look even granting that its all fake lets go with this: The smallest guns on a star destroyer (smallest, not the big anti-ship guns on the topside but the lighter weight side trench mounted guns) are capable of completely vaporizing 50-75m wide asteroids in a single shot (Empire Strikes Back)...an ISD has 60 of those. Full phaser array output is lower than that and the Ent-D only had 2 of those (TNG:TM).

I practically have a crush on the Enterprise.

you'd be able to see infinitely more. my concern is no replicators, requires fuel, and could get crowded quickly.

+BattlingBeasts Good for you.

+BattlingBeasts Coolness factor would wear off quick if you were actually given the chance to own it. Enterprise would be the gift that keeps on giving.

+BattlingBeasts I agree. It is much better to be a space pirate on the MF than a nerdy programmer sitting inside of the bowels of the Enterprise who just sits there all day making sure the shitters all work. :^D

+Thereal111t That's not a fair fight. The TARDIS would just space-time travel some Daleks and Cyberman onto the Enterprise and win without a scratch.

+Csongibongi ask a physicist... One of them has a matter antimatter reactor... The other one has a black hole so....

+Thereal111t So...? The TARDIS's reactor is shielded. It is closed inside a closed loop (in another dimension).

+Thereal111t The Tardis is the clear winner. Hands down

+Thereal111t TARDIS is too unpredictable. I don't want to be on a ship that'll just ditch me in the 60's or can make decisions on its own about where to go O.o

That's so well said, I love it!

+Ssgt Griggs Money doesn't serve a purpose in the Federation. Money still exists and serves a purpose on non Federation worlds Galaxy-wide. Not to mention the fact that the Federation still needs and uses money for non Federation worlds, gold pressed latinum being the dominant, particularly in the Ferengi culture. God I'm a nerd.

+Ssgt Griggs Yeah why would you need money if you can replicate it? It serves no purpose. Also there are plenty of dirty ships that arent in the Federation.

+Ssgt Griggs Falcon has more in common with DS9's Danube Class Runabouts. Similar functions with similar equipment. The biggest difference is that Star Trek focuses on the quasi-military Starfleet and their pristine and well maintained vessels with crews of officers trained to maintain them to an exacting standard, whereas Star Wars focuses on a rebellion and its frankly pitiful attempt to maintain anything. The Empire, and later and more specifically, the Mon Calamari vessels are much more akin to the vessels of Starfleet, but there are still major differences, primarily in computer systems. Starfleet rely heavily on computer automation with 'human' oversight. In Star Wars almost everything is directly controlled by 'humans' with minimal computer assistance. I'm ignoring droids, as both have these to one degree or another. Power generation systems, sub-light drives, weapons and defensive systems are all roughly on-par. Though Trek shows a greater degree of technical advancement in its gadgets and gizmos, this is mainly in streamlining, usability and miniaturization, but they do have some gadgets that alter the playing field, such as Transporters and the more important Inertial Dampeners which protect the crews from hard G; a device never referenced or depicted in Star Wars. This item alone makes the Star Trek vessels far more combat efficient as it allows them to accelerate and decelerate far more quickly and to pull much tighter, faster corners than Star Wars vessels could; effectively allowing the Trek vessels to run rings about a comparable Wars vessel. If Han had been in command of the Rio Grande instead of the Falcon, he would not have had to 'drift lazily to the left' and wouldn't have cared about problems with his hyper drive (or warp drive), he could have simply accelerated far harder than any Star Destroyer could ever manage without turning its entire crew to a sticky pulp. I will point out that Hyper Drive and Warp Drive work along similar lines and that they are both non-relativistic propulsion; meaning vessels don't need to worry about G forces when using them: the systems don't generate 'thrust' in that way. (Warp drive encapsulates a vessel in a subspace bubble that allows space to move around it. Hyper drive shifts a vessel into a separate dimension known as hyper-space; bypassing relativistic laws entirely) Yes; we're all geeks here.

+Ssgt Griggs The Enterprise also docks at various star bases through the galaxy, for repairs & upkeep, that keeps it in it's clean sterile condition. Not to mention, engineering & repair crews, big enough to rival very small countries lol. Neither of which the Millennium Falcon is privy to.

Harukakanata you have that backwards.

Xiomara Irizarry You mean it should be Trek over Wars but Falcon over Enterprise? That's just sick man ;P

More like bicycle vs aircraft carrier.

+Sanguiluna I'd still argue that the entire point of the TARDIS back in 1963 was to specifically travel from point to point. The destinations were the only thing that really mattered. Star Trek has a ton of episodes that revolve around planets too yes, but there's also a load of episodes where they're entirely in space just travelling along. Also Doctor Who is not anywhere near hard sci-fi so it's kind of hard to compare the TARDIS which is so out there in its construction to something that actually tries to explain some of its details with physics. As a disclaimer I love both shows so don't think I don't like Doctor Who. I do - just thought I'd give an alternative opinion :)

felixthecoach with the incompetence of the Stormtroopers and adaptability of the Borg? The Death Star would win in a straight up fight, and then end up being assimilated by a boarding party. Probably.

The first cube, possibly the Death Star - if it had time to charge the super laser. The 2nd - 500th cubes, well, that would be a different story. Remember, once the Borg saw the Death Star, all the Borg would know about it and it's capabilities right up until the second of the destruction of the 1st cube. Unlikely the Borg would lose a 2nd cube to the DS.

Halo ships are great, but they struggled against the covenant for a reason, no shields, lesser firepower and slower speeds, the infinity is a beast but it would only really hold up against the star destroyers and maybe the falcon if it can hit with the mac cannon or fighters, but a fully shielded federation starship would wreck that ship hard, superior speed, defenses, weapons and everything make for an interesting fight but a federation victory, unless it's the NX -01 in which case things are more even footing and the warp speed torpedo and phaser strikes would be their friend

Well... they DID destroy the planet killer Doomsday Weapon.....and saved Earth from being destroyed multiple times....

@@nx9100 but it didn't make the Kessel Run in less than 12 parsecs. Meanwhile, the Falcon was involved in destroying TWO Death Stars, along with Starkiller Base and the Sith Fleet.

+zulkane No, it is not.

let's see it take on the Borg, then.

+zulkane Falcon had no shields. There in lies the winner. Also 2 simple words: Tractor Beam

+chesterbesterfeild the falcon has deflector shields. Did you even watch the movies?

Joshua Robertson when i was young, pardon my memory. I stand corrected However the Enterprise has experience with cracking shields, and a databank full of every instance of battle including shields and what it takes to break them that starfleet has ever encountered. I stand by my opinion

I mean... an A wing through the bridge killed that destroyer, whats to stop the defiant from decloaking infront of its bridge window and lobbing a few quantums in there?

yes!

+DeltaGamer Nah, something more fair would be a Star Destroyer, like the one at the start of Episode IV.

Nah, the TARDIS is an RV.

+Mark Greer Lasers can't penetrate their shields, and if you say they are plasma, those things only go a little over 100 MPH so says the MythBusters who analysed that shit. The Enterprise could simply outrun and outmaneuver their weapons. The only thing the Star Destroyer has on the Enterprise is its speed.

Both have shields. The Enterprise is like a Carnival cruise ship taking on a US Navy battle ship. I will agree that the Enterprise could outrun the star destroyer - it would need to!

But lasers can't penetrate even the navigation shields of the Enterprise. Don't you watch Star Trek?

+Mark Greer Yeah, but, per Star Trek Canon, the star destroyer would literally be unable to penetrate the shields.

+James RePass Those aren't lasers. A laser is a continuous beam, not a plasma pulse.

+Mr. T-shirt The question wasn't the number of places, but the definiteness of destination. The Enterprise is exploring; it doesn't know where it's going. That's why it exists.

Sorry, missed the comments about how the Falcon in the Star Wars universe can go through a galaxy of our size in a matter of days, and ".5 past light speed" has .5 of unclear units.

viewer1000 Who says the Wars galaxy is the same size as ours?

+LPPrince So not the USS Relativity... BAGSIE!.

That's called 'cheating' ;)

Wasn't the Jupiter 2 from Lost in Space also before the Enterprise?

+Rob Spratt The Doctor's got quite a thing for recent iterations of England, hasn't he?

+Rob Spratt Not to mention, going back a little further, the DuQuesne series by E E Smith. Not that that was particularly accurate, technically, since it's all based on the "ether" and "sub-ether travel", but even so, there was inertial dampers and things in those...

the Star Wars galaxy must be small for you to cross it with just the speed of light, a speed the Enterprise can pass at Warp 2, the Enterprise is rated Warp 8.

@@dexoearth9167 What makes you think they only travel at C? They travel through a slipstream-type medium at grossly faster speeds than even Warp 9.99.

@@DocFunkenstein and this great just flunked Star Wars science. *facepalm* in Star Wars A New Hope, Han said the Millennium Falcon can go 1.5 the speed of light, on Star Trek warp scale, that's just a tiny bit over Warp one, easily surpassable at Warp 2.

A personal Delta Flyer would be so amazing

well no since the Millennium Falcon could get from one of the galaxy to the other in a few mins compared to Voyager's 70 years.

@@purefoldnz3070 propaganda LIES

@@jaypeeztabernac851 Hyperspace trumps Warp speed.

@@purefoldnz3070 were you drunk when you wrote this? Millennium Falcon = the speed of light. the Enterprise = Warp 8 / 1024x the speed of light.

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Also the reasons that I choose the enterprise

I actually there is a reason that I choose the USS enterprise Over The millennium Falcon And I knew for a fact after you say it Because the enterprise is far better Lethal weapon Spaceship. There's a reason that I said yes to that from Where I say.

the enterprise can one shot asteroids which is hundreds metre with ease and blow dozens kilometres wide with more torpedos, push away the moon and fking neutron star fragments, so star trek will win

@@领主-元 yeah as I recall the Enterpise-D in one episode, after escaping an asteroid field laced with aceton assimilators that were draining their energy they destroyed the whole asteroid field along with the associated assimilators and a 1,000-year-old derelict Promellian battlecruiser with one salvo of photon torpedoes (and then the writers cracked and had such a powerful ship get destroyed by an aging bird of prey in Generations.....seriously? if I were writing that I'd have the plot involve the Enterprise-D (in its stardrive section having sent off the civilians in the saucer section) having to fight off a whole battle group of Jem'Hadar ships and getting mortally wounded before help finally arrives and the backup watches in horror as the warp core of the once great flagship, surrounded by the wreckage of some of those Jem'Hadar ships, breaches and it explodes)