USS Enterprise-D vs Imperial II Star Destroyer | Star Trek vs Star Wars: Who Would Win 

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Should do what happens when a storm trooper and Red shirt get in a fight. The stormtrooper misses every shot but the red shirt still dies

This is how the scenario plays out: (Enterprise is in a star system with three inhabited planets.) Worf: "Captain, we are detecting a massive vessel at the edge of sensor range." Troi: "Sir, I sense a great disturbance, as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced." Picard: "Hail them." Worf: "Channel Open." Picard: "Unidentified vessel. This is Captain Picard of the Federation starship USS Enterprise. May we know your intentions?" ISS: "Surrender your vessel and prepare to be boarded." Picard: (Concerned Pikachu face) "We are a peaceful people. Explorers who reject tyranny and work for understanding between planets. Surely you are the same. We would welcome a delegation aboard to discuss and exchange of knowledge and culture." ISS: "...!" (Close channel) Worf: "Captain, they are charging weapons and launching fighters." Riker: "Shields up! Red Alert! Mr. Worf, tactical report." Worf: "Primary and secondary shield generators, a solar ionization reactor, 72 fighters, 60 ion cannons, Approximately 47,000 life forms detected." Picard: "She's a predator..." Worf: " 60 heavy turbolaser batteries, another dozen or so multiple medium and heavy laser turrets." Riker: "... did you say LASER?" Picard: "Maybe she's NOT a predator, they could fire lasers at us till their reactors run dry... but those ion cannons could be dangerous to our systems." Data: "Sir, tactical analysis of their weapons show that their turrets are limited to a range of 5,000 kilometers." Picard: "Helm, keep us 300,000 km away from the vessel." Worf: "Sir, the fighters have opened fire!" (TIE fighter lasers fill the space around the Enterprise. -- Crew nervously waits for the ship to rock from the impacts.) Picard: "Mr. Worf, report!" Worf: "Sir... they missed." Picard: "You mean there was no damage." Worf: "No sir... they just missed... ENTIRELY. The shields do not register and impacts." Picard: "Helm. Well done on the evasive maneuvers!" Helm: "Sir... we haven't moved yet. I was waiting for you to say, 'engage'" Picard: "..." (Looks to Riker) Riker: "Riker to Engineering. Geordi, did you maneuver the Enterprise from down there? We just dodged a barrage of fire from 72 fighters." Geordi: "Sir? It wasn't us. I didn't even realize we were being attacked." Data: "Captain, I may have an answer. Scans show that all of their weapons are manually targeted. They can't keep a weapons track on Enterprise at anything above quarter impulse. Additionally, their main vessel has little aft protection." Troi: "Captain. The commander of that ship is enraged that his fighters missed and that we're staying out of their weapons range. I sense that he's about to target the outermost planet of the system!" Geordi: "Captain, there are more than 4 million settlers on that world and they don't have planetary defenses." Picard: "Helm, keep your distance, but use a short warp jump to put us behind the target. Mr. Worf, target engines and weapons." (Enterprise jumps 300km behind the ISS, leaving the fighter squadron on the other side of the battle field.) Riker: "Engines and weapons targeted." Picard: "Full spread phaser barrage. Continuous fire." (Enterprise fires continuous phased beams at maximum range. ISS tries to maneuver, but Enterprise stays behind and away.) Worf: "Sir, their shields are holding, fighters have regrouped and are making another attack run" Riker: "Continue fire. Target the fighters with photon torpedoes." (Enterprise keeps firing phasers at the ISS while a barrage of torpedoes goes after the fighters. at 500k range) Data: "Captain, scanning their ION cannons, their systems seem to be extremely susceptible to electrical discharge. We may be able to simulate a similar weapon." Picard: "Engineering. Can you create an ION pulse with the deflector dish?" Geordi: "Yes sir. We can run warp power directly through the deflector control and create a massive ION pulse. It might rupture a few EPS conduits, and we wouldn't be able to jump to warp until repairing them, but it will be one heck of a blast." Worf: "Sir, the fighters are retreating from the torpedoes, but the target vessel is 5 minutes from weapons range of the planet's surface." Picard: "Geordi, how quickly can you create the pulse?" Georgi: "Sir, it'll take me 8 minutes." Picard: "Data, go to engineering and help with the modifications, Number 1, we need to draw the fire of that ship!" Riker: "Yessir." (Riker sits back in his chair and looks at his display) "Helm, move us between the planet and the target. Mr. Worf, keep firing. Full spread of torpedoes as well." Worf: "Sir, their shields ARE weakening, but we are unable to penetrate their defenses." (Montage: Georgi and Data rushing to patch connections through engineering. Troi looks worried. Worf keeps pressing the fire button. Riker steps OVER the chair that Data has vacated and takes his station. - 4 minutes later) Worf: "Sir, we are now entering the target vessel's weapons range." (impacts rock the Enterprise as the ion cannons start striking the shields. Around the ship, control panels explode and lights flicker.) Riker: "Report!" Helm: "Sir, we're losing helm control, impulse engines are offline" Worf: "Shields down to 60%" Riker: "Helm, switch to auxiliary controls and use the thrusters to push us back from the target, but keep us between them and the colony." Picard: "Engineering, how much longer?!" Geordi: "Just another minute captain. We're just readjusting the phase compensator to synchronize the plasma flow through the dish with the warp matter/anti-matter stream. If we don't get it right, we're looking at a core breach when we fire the deflector" (Impacts continue to rock the Enterprise. Rocks fly out of the ceiling and debris is strewn around the bridge.) Worf: "Shields at 15% ... Captain, we are being hailed." Picard: "Onscreen!" ISS: "Enemy craft. Stand down and surrender your vessel or be destroyed." Picard: "You have made an act of aggression against an unarmed planet. This is nothing short of a declaration of war against the Federation of Planets. We are NOT your enemy!" (More impacts and the lights go out. Riker is thrown from this console by an explosion.) Worf: "Shields are down! Buckling on deck 9, 10, and 11. Casualties reported on all decks." Data: "Captain, the deflector is ready." Picard: (zoom shot) "Fire." (Huge beam shoots from the Enterprise deflector dish and strikes the ISS. Electricity arcs along the hull of the ship, the engines go out and it begins to drift. - In Engineering, smoke pours from the warp core as EPS conduits explode.) Geordi: "Coolant leak! Everybody out!" (Geordi rushes everybody out then rolls past the closing door just as is slams shut. Dr. Crusher rushes over to injured crewmen and pokes them with hyposprays.) Georgi: "Engineering to the bridge. The kickback from that shot was worse than expected. We've lost warp power until we can cool the core and repair the damaged conduits. We're showing system faults shipwide." Data: (poking at his tricorder) "Captain, the beam worked. The enemy ship is without power. They are working on restoring systems, but by my calculations it will be at least 30 minutes until they have weapons, shields or propulsion." Worf: "We have another problem sir. The ship is still drifting towards the planet. At it's current velocity, it will impact in 6 minutes." Riker: "A ship that size, moving at that speed, will obliterate all life on the surface." Picard: "Mr. Worf, tractor beam?" Worf: "Negative sir. Weapons, shields and tractor beam are all offline." (Geordi and Data enter the bridge.) Geordi: "Damage control is responding, but it will take at least 10 minutes to get those systems back online." Riker: "Options" (silence) Chief O'Brien: (Over the com) - "Captain, the transporters are still working." Riker: "We can't take an away team over there. 6 people vs. 50 thousand?!" CoB: "I wasn't thinking about beaming over an away team sir." (On the bridge, hangar deck and engine room of the ISS. As people run around trying to restore power, there is an electronic hum and a bright light as three torpedoes materialize and detonate. From the bridge of the Enterprise, the ISS explodes into millions of pieces of debris, each no larger than a shuttlecraft. As the debris hits the atmosphere, it burns briefly before ceasing to exist. In the ready room, the senior staff sit quietly.) Picard: "50 thousand lives. I just ordered the destruction of 50 thousand lives." Worf: "Sir, THEY were the aggressors." Data: "Captain, the math is clear, 50 thousand or 4 million." Riker: "We've recovered their pilots and a few hundred survivors who made it to escape pods before the ship burned up in the atmosphere. We've converted Cargo Bay 1 and 2 into a makeshift brig." Dr. Crusher: "A number of the crew appear to be clones. - Our own casualties are light. Mostly burns and broken bones. Lieutenant Barkley was knocked out when the holodeck exploded." Geordie: "We'll have shields and propulsion within the hour. The deflector and warp core will be operational within four hours. We'll need some time in drydock to fix all the burned out systems and repair the structural damage." Riker: "We can drop off our prisoners at Deep Space Nine en route to Utopia Planetia. A few of them are talking, but most of them are in shock. I don't think they're accustomed to loosing battles. Hopefully Starfleet intelligence can find out where they come from and what they want." Picard: (turn chair and looks out the window of the ready room) "I think... we've not seen the last of this... 'Empire'." (Fade to Black)

I love that you spend the first ~4 minutes diplomatically saying "calm down everyone, they're both fictional"

The USS Enterprise would have won because they are the protagonists' ship, and the plot demands that the bad guys lose.

The answer ultimately comes down to what imaginary version of physics you are using; star wars or star trek.

Now I have watched it and WHAT? This makes no sense. You mention that the Enterprise can fire at greater distances and that it is FAR FAR FAR FAR faster sublight than the Star Destroyer. Thus the Star Destroyer NEVER fires at the Enterprise. You failed to point out that while the Star Destroyer is faster than the Enterprise while in Hyperspace, they can only enter it at specific points, while the Enterprise can warp anywhere it wants.

Enterprise D also has overpowered plot armour, the Star destroyer doesn't stand a chance against that overpowered defence 😂

You know what’s a better fight then these two space ships duking it out? Watching the fight between the two different nerd factions in the comments.

"Worf, target their weapons!" "Ughhhhh..... Which ones, captain??"

When the Borg cutting beam sliced into the Enterprise's hull, the Enterprise's shields were in fact depleted at that point

I would actually give the fight to the Enterprise for two reasons, maneuverability and weapon arcs. A majority of the Star Destroyers weapons are laterally and forward mounted. IF the Enterprise could use its superior maneuverability to stay BEHIND and above of the Star Destroyer, then it would be an easy kill.

So the US military could defeat a Star Destroyer but the flagship of the Federation fleet couldn't? What sort of logic is that?

The Enterprise has safety railings, something the Empire hasn’t figured out.

Enterprise E is a battle ship designed to take on the Borg Dis science

The one thing no one ever takes into account when matching star wars vs star trek, is the range of the respective weapons. For example, the SSD's turbo lasers have an effective range of 5000 kilometers. But the enterprise's phasers have a range of 300,000 kilometers and a torpedo range of 2.5 million kilometers. In short, a star trek ship would just fall back and pound the ssd into scrap from well outside it's engagement range.

“Today I’m going to see who can win in a fight: this battleship from Star Wars, or this hotel from Star Trek!”

i don't think Q would let the enterprise lose he likes picard too much lol.

I'd like to see a comparison of Thrawn and Picard.

Um. The biggest intangible: the Enterprise can fly circles around a Star Destroyer. The ISD is a snail. Enterprise can maneuver so much better.

The ships of Star Wars that we’ve seen are mostly for war,, some transports, & shuttles. Star Trek has had war ships, transports, & shuttles too, but had more of a focus on exploration. This drove the technology differently in each universe. I think

The Enterprise D has phaser strips which gave it a 360° firing arc so it does not require as many weapons

The funny part is that they both used to exist in the same universe. That is, until the Emperor ticked off the Q.

"Holy shit sir, they barely have deflector shields!" "How quaint. Number One, beam a photon torpedo onto their bridge."

Photon Torpedoes were specifically developed to do harm on an enemy vessel while your own ship is on warp.

Star Trek may be technologically superior, but we have THE SENATE HIMSELF

Regarding firepower: Lets forget star trek has torpedos for a moment. One overloaded pulse canon from nx-01 made a big crater on a moon, 300years prior to Enterprise D, Enterprise D cut inside a planet's core in moments... I would say those phasers can be insanely powerful jet precise. I don't know what to think about star destroyers weapons, i think i saw star wars ships destroy asteroids, but i don't remember destroying something directly comparable, like a moon, planet etc (excluding death star). Orbital bombardent/making a planet uninhabitable is easy, we have this capability for almost 50 years so its nothing to brag about. Regarding shields: we see star trek ship from tos era forward beeing hit by solar flares, explosions of some nebula gases and other cosmic events etc etc... didnt see anything like that in star wars movies.. please someone correct and point me where cases like this occur. Two totally different universes, too little directly comparable data. Star trek ships feel more advanced and highly adaptable, star wars ships feel like old sea frigates, strong, unmovable and powerful. This comparisons are kinda like asking "what is sweeter, paper or salt?" debatable but neverending :D

Three things that you overlooked: 1 - All but the few heaviest lasers on an ISD are short range defense weapons. Again, playing the video games shows this as well as the older source books. The issue is that, yes, they are a murder-fest if you are at under about 10-15km range, and provide almost perfect anti-fighter screening, but farther out than that, you they are useless. In terms of actual ranged output and also as seen in the recent movies like Last Jedi, even the larger weapons have a hard time dealing damage at a significant range. This is why they are forced to use their fighters. The top speed of an ISD is also absurdly slow being that it is really a fleet carrier and mobile command post. 2: Range. Star Trek ships are used to engaging at thousands of kilometers away. Unless they literally drop in on top of the ISD and are forced to start at zero velocity, all it takes is a quick burst of speed, turn around, and kite at 1000km until the shields are down. Even then, the 3-4 seconds it takes to issues a command and *humans* manning those guns to aim and start firing, the Enterprise is already warped out or at 1/4 impulse. Officially, that's 18,665 km/s. Now you see me, now you simply don't. Absolutely impossible to aim and hit via humans while kiting. 3: Computer Core. The Enterprise has an advanced computer core that automates firing as well as defense and shield balancing on a speed that doesn't exist in Star Wars. Nothing the entire Tie Fighter fleet can throw at it will save them when they can be swatted by phasers at ranges of 100km+ Their official "range" of their weapons is less than 10km. A few might make it to the ship, but it can just short-range warp 100km away in a few seconds. They simply never catch up and get picked off at a rate of several per second since they have no shields. The win goes almost every time to The Enterprise simply because of its absurd speed advantage, ability to warp in seconds without having to plot hyperspace paths, and range of its weapons.

Picard's diplomacy would have prevented the fight in the first place.

Photon torpedos carry warp sustainer engines and have ranges in the hundreds of thousands to 1.5 million kilometer range in the TNG era. The enterprise could make some high speed warp runs outside of gun range and pepper the SD with torpedo barrages. When the shields get weakened, it can park directly behind the wedge and fire into it's back. I agree that the enterprise would be toast if if parked in front of star destroyer, but there is absolutely no way a SD wins in a turn battle with anyone and it's complete lack of weapon coverage on it's flank make it a sitting duck. The SD needs support to cover it's flanks or it loses to anything that is more maneuverable as long as the challenger's weapons are strong enough to break the star destroyer's shields with enough time.

Worf: “Enemy is powering lasers” Riker: *mockingly* “Lasers?”

One point to consider in the Star Trek universe are their ships ability to target weapon shots with precision accuracy against specific systems. The advanced sensors that you mentioned in your video would come into play more prominently in that regard.

"WTF, there're shooting lasers at us!" "Just beam a photon torpedo on their bridge". Jokes aside, the Star Destroyer is based on WWI & WW2 Warfare with a doctrine of inaccurate volume of fire, whereas the Enterprise-D weapon doctrine seem to be based on at least the cold war era, with less numerous but highly accurate strikes due to the advances in firing control systems. The SD *may* hit the E, but the E *will* hit the SD every time it fires. The E can strike repeated hits with pinpoint accuracy everywhere on the SD, on the engines, the shield generators, the bridge, pick off the turbolasers one by one, hell, even draw a dickbutt on the hull with a continued phaser beam. I think for that reason alone, the Enterprise has the upper edge.

Shields weren't really covered in this video. Shields are such a big part of star trek, but barely are ever even mentioned in star wars. My guess is that the enterprise would have much better shields, but the star destroyer would have a far stronger hull.

it has been shown that starships can shoot at warp speed in star trek

Star Trek capital ships move way faster than Star Wars fighters. Star Wars weapons are manually targeted. Unless the gunners are Force-sensitive, even hitting the Enterprise would require a miracle.

The enterprise has used its phasers to drill holes through a planets crust, I'd say that's powerful enough for planetary bombardment. Star trek focuses mainly on science and complex stories, star wars is more fantasy and action, I don't think you can compare the two

Imo your analysis is flawed. An X-Wing fighter, with relatively weak (non-capital ship) and imprecise (point to shoot) cannons , is a potential threat to a Star Destroyer. Compared to the X-Wing, the Enterprises Phasers are by far, far more powerful capital ship weapons, and are by far, far more precise, able to hit small fast moving ships with ease and able hit ships beyond visual range or to target precise systems locations on larger ships. The Star Destroyer has many guns, but they can barely hit a frigate ship in plain sight thats not maneuvering and less than a couple kilometers away. Any engagement thats not a proximity battle is sporadic lucky shots. Sporadic lucky shots are a threat to Star Wars shields but not to Star Trek capital ships. The only way the enterprise would be in real trouble is if it would park itself next to the Star Destroyer broadside so that a large number of gunners would not miss. But the Enterprise has the sensors, combat speed and maneurability to make sure that would never happen and the Star Destroyer is essentially a big sitting duck. Heres how it would play out: The Enterprise scans the Star Destroyer when its beyond visual range and is surprised to see how exposed and easy to cripple is its bridge deflector shield. That its bridge is on an elevated silver plater. And that it has a huge weapons blind spot a few hundred kilometers straight behind it. The Star Destroyer lauches tie fighters to intercept, not realizing that, unlike a Star Destroyer, this ship's capital weapons will not miss them, its like sending lambs to the slaughter. But after a while, as the tie fighter pilots are manually figeting with their controls and turning a knob to prepare for the attack, just before the tie fighters get into range, the Enterprise does not even bother to swat them and warps, instantly appearing all the way to the other side of the Star Destroyer, fires several capital ship phasers into the bridge deflector shield with a quick phaser strike to the main sensor array and a salvo of photon torpedos right into the bridge. The crew guy does not even finish his sentence..."Sir, we just lost our" *boom!* . The clueless gunners are wondering why they cant see the ship that the tie fighter were supposed to attack, before they or the tie fighters pilots know whats happening, the Enterprise warps several hundred kilometers right behind the Star Destroyer and fires on the engines.The star destroyer is now immobilized, mostly blind, confused without command. The Enterprise rapidly manouvers to the ventral side staying beyond visual range and knocks out the ventral shield, largest turrets it can detect, and fires a salvo of photon torpedoes in the exposed hangar, then maneuvers around the large drifting derelict ship and fires on deflectors, turrets, and starts picking off one by one the tie fighters in the distance returning to the Star Destroyer. In the end, the tactical officer says "shields at 90%", and the Enterprise finishes off the Star Destroyer wreckage by teleporting 3 photon torpedoes rigged to detonate in 30 seconds inside the helpless Star Destroyer right next to the still intact main reactor and warps away as a bright ball of light briefly illuminates space in the distance behind them.

Star Destroyers are taken out by a hand full of X-Wings.

Star Destroyer vs Wraith Hive Ship I would love to see that.

*States that the Enterprise would lose* *Also states that the Enterprise would have the speed advantage and is probably more effective at range* *Jackie Chan wtf JPEG*

The Enterprise has been seen on multiple occasions drilling through the crust of a planet, several hundred meters and the time of firing is 1-2 seconds. where as the star destroyers can bombard for several minutes and not breach the surface to any significant level. now this level of power gets shown in shields, if those in the ST universe can do that sort of damage then you figure their primary enemies have the same level of power, which their shields have to withstand showing the vast superiority of the ST universe shields. dont get me wrong, I love both universes, but it is like comparing civil war units vs modern day units.

One complication: In one of the Star Wars movies, someone destroyed one of the sphere things on the outside of a star destroyer, which immediately disabled the shields, which led to the destruction of the ship. Federation star ships have excellent sensors and good science/engineering officers who might be able to figure out this vulnerability and exploit it.

Eck I think you're mostly right, but Starfleet crew are trained to view their surroundings in very scientific ways. I think you underestimate the speed at which they would figure out that the Imp2 can't fire behind itself (I'm relying heavily on Data for this one). I think they'd figure it out within the first minute and then take maybe another minute to two at most to get there. That gives the Imp2 a max time of 3 minutes to destroy the Enterprise D, all while its still flying circles around the Imp2. I'd give the Enterprise the 7/10 win tbh.

The one giant benchmark for weapon power that I would point out for the two universes is what a hand phaser vs. a blaster pistol can do. A hand phaser can literally vaporize people or solid metal objects in less than a second, while a blaster bolt seems to have about the lethality of a large caliber bullet, something in the range of a .50 cal. The levels of power output aren't even remotely comparable. If you assume that the amount of energy that weapons in these universes can put out scales comparably to ship born weaponry then it's not even a contest, Enterprise vs. Deathstar would be closer in respective firepower.

FYI...the Borg laser was only effective because the Enterprise's shields were down, otherwise it would not have been able to penetrate the Enterprise D's shields...also the word laser is an acronym, "light amplification by stimulated emission of radiation", so unless light is different in a different galaxy (which it isn't), a laser is a laser is a laser. Shields are designed in both universes to deflect the weapons being used against them. In the SW universe there are lasers, super lasers, ion cannons and various bombs. In the ST universe there are lasers, phasers, super phasers, phaser cannons and various torpedoes. Just comparing the two lists, the SW weapons are inferior in technology to the ST weapons, which means that ST shields would withstand anything a Star Destroyer could throw at it, whereas SW shields would easily be taken down by the Enterprise's phasers...if only because they have never encountered and would have no way to stop more advanced weapons. And size doesn't necessarily translate to power, the USS Defiant could easily defeat a SSD simply because a SSD could not deal with a ship that small and maneuverable and the Defiant's weapons are far superior to the SSD's defensive capabilities. A far more even battle would be between either Star Destroyer and a Omega class destroyer from B5 or a Mercury class battlestar from BSG. Those three universes are very similar in terms of technology...IMHO...

I disagree that the Star Wars universe has a higher tech base than the Star Trek one. I feel the star wars universe is higher energy, greater industrialization, but Trek is essentially post-scarcity. The Trek replicator by itself, outdoes virtually any tech in the Star Wars universe. I don't think it really matters, in the battle however. As you recognized, the real question is how far can the star-destroyer shoot?

So I feel compelled to throw in my 2 cents here. First of all I am a much bigger Star Wars fan than I am a Star Trek fan. I think that’s important to state as it lets you know where my bias is. That being said. I see no evidence that more advanced technology is used in the Star Wars universe than the Star Trek universe. Data is clearly more advanced than any droid in StarWars. Star Trek has holo decks, transporters, cloaking devices, time travel, and arguably better medical methods. The Enterprise’s smaller sleeker design would make it a much more difficult target. Plus if need be it could separate into 2 sections. Ultimately, my biggest issue with the Imperial Star Destroyers is that they seem more like intimidating looking carriers. If they are allowed to use their Tie Fighters than maybe we’d have a serious fight, but when considering just ship to ship, well.....; I’m not sure I’ve ever seen a Star Destroyer destroy another ship of any kind. Can I get a fact check on that? I believe it’s implied and assumed that they are credited for having taken out some X-Wings and Y-Wings, but do we actually know that? We do know that blasts from small fighter craft are strong enough to destroy a Star Destroyer’s deflector shields, and that once down, the impact from a small fighter craft is all it takes to penetrate and destroy a Star Destroyer’s bridge. So I think you all know where I’m going with this. Both ships come out of light speed or warp speed. They both throw up their respective shields. The Enterprise moves faster and is harder to hit and has shields that can withstand powerful blasts from other starships. The Star Destroyer is a slow moving sitting duck with 2 easy to target shield generators that can be taken down by a few concentrated fighter class blasts. The Star Destroyer has hundreds of plasma/laser cannons that as far as we know have never hit the broadside of a barn much less a moving ship. So what prevents the Enterprise from locking its phasers on the Star Destroyers 2 shield generators and popping them like darts thrown at a water balloon, and then sending 1 or 2 photon torpedos straight through the Star Destroyer’s easy to hit bridge? I realize there is likely some nuance mixed in somewhere, but isn’t this realistically how most people believe this fight would go down? It’s basically a quality versus quantity fight. The Empire just doesn’t design things that well. Change my mind.

One thing, the Enterprise can "come about" and completely reverse heading in seconds. Star Destroyers take minutes to lumber around and reverse heading. For that I think an Enterprise has a huge maneuverability advantage over the SD. That advantage may allow the Ent to disengage and continue to attack from distance.

Enterprise: Open hailing frequencies. Star destroyer: I have been expecting you. *heavy breathing intensifies*

The thing is, each of those photon torpedoes is carrying a chunk of antimatter the size of a human torso. Considering that a piece of antimatter the size of my finger has more destructive power than a dozen of our most powerful nukes, imagine a Star Destroyer trying to fend off dozens of these things all at once.

The Enterprise D in "Yesterday's Enterprise" was built solely as a battleship and was also the flagship of the federation in that timeline.

I would give raw power to the Imperial Destroyer, but precision and tactical versatility to the Enterprise. Federation victories are often done through tactical maneuvers and using scientific equipment to analyze the opponent's vulnerabilities. Even if we assume the Enterprise cannot find a scientific way to bypass Imperial defenses, it could outmaneuver it. Imperial firepower does not travel the speed of light and can be dodged, and the Destroyer is meant for formation fighting and has glaring blind-spots in firepower in its rear, if the Enterprise stays behind it, it will mitigate most of the damage while it uses precision strikes to disable the Destroyer. I don't think the Imperials could cripple the Enterprise fast enough to prevent this.

How about a match up between the sw destroyers and the Winnebago from Spaceballs? My money is on the Winnebago.

Worf " Captain sensors are telling us that the star destroyer has minimal shielding and no weapon to the rear of the ship". Picard" Mr. Data warp us out of here, then come in behind that ship." Riker, " Mr. Worf prepare a full spread of photon and quantum torpedoes. Fire!

I’m a huge Star Wars fan but I totally disagree. I think the enterprise would make quick work of a star destroyer. But thank you for the video

Any time Trek crews lose badly enough, somebody goes back in time and rigs the outcome. The Empire already beat them, but that timeline has been erased.

I've said it before functionally the enterprise has the star destroyer out classed in menuverability, and even firepower more then once it's noted that on a planet without shields a constitution class is capable of glassing a planet let alone a galaxy class which is far more advanced. Also there is a range difference and biggest is a precision difference with the ability to fire concentrated and pinpoint accurate shots at the sheild emmiters on the star destroyer where the isd has no answer for. Tie fighters aren't even a factor as they would be cut to ribbons long before they even got in range. Even if you concede the weapons have simmilar levels of power the accuracy and speed at which a phaser can be delivered is staggering as it is not a plasma bolt it is a straight up particle ray and is nearly instanious.

The fact that the Enterprise 1701 (the original series Enterprise) could do serious damage to an entire planet from orbit has already been proven in the mirror universe. In ST-TOS episode “Mirror, Mirror” the mirror Kirk threatens to destroy the Halkon civilization from orbit (and it‘s stated he’s already destroyed other civilizations on other planets in a similar manner) and mirror Spock prepares to do just that (though hopefully “our” Kirk talked him out of it) so it probably was not an empty threat. Also I’m pretty sure Spock would notice if some smaller ship clamped to the outside of the Enterprise hiding but Han Solo got away with that quite easily with a star destroyer. Star Wars sensors suck.

The Enterprise would simply get on the ass end of the star destroyer and shoot its engines all to help. After that they would just carve it up. The Klingons taught the Federation to weaponize the ship's 6 o'clock.

Data could just plot a course at warp 8 where the Enterprise “appears” out of nowhere, launches a torpedo salvo, pops up over here does the same, pops up of there, again and again and again. How does the SSD defend against hundreds of photon torpedoes simultaneously coming from all directions, from an enemy they can’t see? Game over

I am Q *snaps fingers* The Star Destoryer goes away in the delta quadrant and is assimilated by the borg :0

Worf: Captain! The enemy is firing on us! Picard: They are? Worf: Yes sir! They are using some sort of ancient laser based weaponry. Picard: Disable them and then open a comms channel. Worf: Yes sir!

"The federation never fires first", that I think is one major weakness of them.

Even a Star Trek shuttle could actually go head to head with a TIE Fighter, as the shuttle actually has shields, and TIEs don't. Imagine if this was the D with her two Runabouts. Those even have mini photon torpedo launchers, and near star ship shields.

I hope someone already made the argument, but I'll state it anyway. ST, specifically the Galaxy-class starships vs. Imperial-class SDs, has a huge speed advantage, which in a tactical theory, is a winning strategy. The advanced sensors of a Galaxy-class, or any Fed ship, would be able to instantly identify the weakness of the SDs aft firing arc, or lack of one. Get in behind an Imperial SD and hammer away at engines and then target the command tower. Game over. Even in SW lore it was a proven strategy. SW X-wing: The Krytos Trap novel ALONE proved that. Also you mentioned the TIE-fighters and you were right when you said they'd be completely ineffective. A combat ready and equipped Galaxy-class vessel would have combat model shuttles at minimum. Even the maximum number that ship could hold would make space dust of every Imperial fighter and then use their speed and agility to pinpoint target and destroy weapon emplacements with a single shot each. ST starships would dominate SW fleets with ease. The only advantage the Empire has is sheer numbers. And that wouldn't count for much once the ST fleets get into a battle rhythm. Love your vids anyway. Keep on keepin' on.

OK black and white... Star Trek ships would annialate star wars ships. I love both universes, but I'm confident the defiant alone could wipe them all out.

Bigger isn’t necessarily better. And no, The Enterprise would not trade broadsides with a Star Destroyer. We have no evidence that ray shielding stops transporters, so it’s fair to say those would work. And the only times they fail is when the plot calls for it. Actually, that’s the only reason most things fail on the Enterprise.

Enterprice D's deflector system (the orange thingy in the front) is capatible to destroy entire planets if it uses full power from warp core.

Death Star vs 10 million Tie Fighters

well in terms of infantery combat: phaser vs blaster is simple question phasers can disintegrate person while blaster only do moderate damage so i guess that star trek technology is more advanced

Data is more advanced than any droid in Star Wars canon.

Harrower Class Dreadnought VS Venator Class Star Destroyer

In TOS the Constitution class Enterprise was said to be able to singlehandedly destroy a planet on multiple occasions. The Galaxy class Enterprise of TNG was many magnitudes more powerful than a Constitution class. In order to wipe out a planet the Galactic Empire had to build a massive moon sized weapon. If the Star Destroyer was truly more powerful than a Galaxy Class Starship; why not use a Star Destroyer to destroy Alderaan? It is also important to remember that Star Trek vessels of opposing sides (ex. Starfleet vs. Romulan Star Empire) are often portrayed as having similar fire power. So when engaged in combat; their shields are regularly shrugging off weapons with world destroying potential. It would seem that Starfleet vessels are vastly more powerful than anything in the Star Wars universe; in terms of fire power, defensive shielding, and speed (at least against Star Destroyers.) This is how I see it playing out (provided there is open war already, and the orders are to destroy the enemy, and there is no advanced warning from "the force.") The Galaxy class Enterprise detects the Star Destroyer at extremely long range with it's superior tech, and stops outside of the SD's sensor range. The computer in the Enterprise identifies all vulnerable areas for targeting on the SD, and determines the offensive capabilities of the SD as well. The Enterprise then will potentially reposition to optimize for the attack. It would then likely close distance rapidly firing a full spread of torpedoes, (potentiality photonic, and or quantum depending on the timeframe) simultaneously hitting key defensive systems with phaser fire. The tactics used would largely depend on the Enterprise computer's evaluation of the capabilities of the SD, but could range from a hit and run style attack considering a formidable opponent, or a sit there and Tank the hits approach considering a comparatively weak opponent. In full disclosure; I have never been a fan of Star Wars, and have little knowledge of that universe. I have a substantial amount of knowledge of Star Trek. So my evaluation is based off of what I already know of Star Trek, and what was said in this video. It really seems like a easy win for the Enterprise based on what the presenter said about the Star Destroyer, and that does not even take into account potential transporter trickery. Once you add a "Force User" to the mix; a Star Destroyer becomes much more formidable I think. Without one; it seems doomed.

One quote from the first movie (ep IV)... "It would take a 1000 star destroyers with more fire power..." That said to blow up a planet.... Quote from Star Trek, episode where the planet were romans with enterprise A.... "I hear you don't have to come down, you can destroy the planet from orbit"... These are paraphases not quotes, but still thoes things were said... so not sure you did alot of research on this with the actual shows.

Speed Advantage(Sub-Light, where Combat takes place, in Star Wars anyways...)- Enterprise. Weapons Range Advantage- Enterprise. Sensor Advantage- Enterprise. Target Acquisition and Targeting Advantage- Enterprise. "Micro-jump" Advantage- Enterprise. Ability to Improvise/Adapt(ie, Modulate Shields to cope with Fire, Change Phaser Frequencies to Overcome Shields, use the Transporter, use Shuttles to Distract the ISD and/or Kill the TIEs, etc...)- Enterprise. AND the Fact that the Enterprise is a Exploration Vessel vs a Warship.... Verdict: Enterprise WINS!!! Change My Mind.

You made an error. The Borg cube cut into the E's hull because it managed to adapt to the shield frequency of the Enterprise, thus completely defeating it. The Empire doesn't have that sort of tactic or adaptive technology at all. The Enterprise's shields otherwise would stop and deflect any attacks against it. That and the D's photon torpedoes use a matter/anti-matter reaction that is VERY violent, and the Enterprise carries a f-ton of them, and can fire a massive number of them in one salvo. If properly unleashed a Galaxy Class ship will stomp anything in space, the only ship that does it better is a Sovereign Class ship. The real weakness a Galaxy Class ship has... is those in command of it. The Federation is a generally pacifistic interstellar nation, while the Empire... well.. it goes without saying. The Empire will shoot first, and against such a large ship, with everything it got. Thing is that would also be the last thing it does. Because Federation captains if properly angered... will unleash hell.

The Enterprise hands down as the Star Destroyers have repeatedly demonstrated their total inability to hit the broad side of a barn.

Something most people seem to be forgetting is weapon range! I am not an expert, but after doing a little research it seems that the Turbolasers have a max range of about 6,000km while photon torpedos have hit small objects at 90,000km and some sources even say they have a max range of 1 billion km. And that does not seem like a fair match to me. Also: 4 years late to the party just like I always am in rl!

LOL, this again. Sigh. No comparison, star fleet wins. Most Imperial weapons have to be in some kind of visual range to operate. The Enterprise can see you instantaneously at a parsec (3.26 light years) and has a torpedo that can be fired at that distance with it's own AI that can out smart any imperial commander. Lord forbid that a cloaking device gets mounted on the torpedo, then the imperials wont even know it's coming until they are breathing hard vacuum. No amount of shielding will help; no amount of fighter support would even be relevant. Hands down, no contest, the empire is toast. LOL. Thank you for playing, please try again.

" Your likeness will be added to our own " scans star destroyer ..detects Disney influence . backs up in absolute horror " We are so sorry let us just end your suffering " " Starwars - " THANK YOU "" Borg " Fire EVERYTHING "

The technologies are laid out and can somewhat be compared, via their manuals. The shielding in the ST universe would likely absorb the SW weapons. The ST universe also has a range and aiming advantage, while the capital ships are far more maneuverable in the ST universe. ST is OP as compared with SW. You have to keep in mind that the SW universe ships are role based, thusly the fighters. The ST ships are multi-role units and need to be able to hold up in war.

It's apples and oranges, but I think that the ENT's weapons are vastly more powered than suggested: Blowing through the crusts of planets, torpedoes with yields equivalent to multiple-megaton nuclear weapons, and finally the transporters -- if the Enterprise can get the ISD's shields down the fight is simply over by beaming torpedoes aboard or beaming the ISD's crew and key components into space en masse.

after reading the title "ah... fanboys bait"

There isn't any reason to suggest that the Borg's cutting beam is a plasma based weapon. In ST: Enterprise it was referred to as a "Particle Beam" which could mean that it's either a disruptor phaser or laser weapon. Given that all plasma based weapons should be able to be blocked by the shields (as the ship needs to be able to safely traverse through dangerous environments, such as plasma storms). Therefore, all we can really say is that it definitely isn't a laser weapon, similar to those in Star Wars, and it might be a phaser or disruptor or something else. It might even be similar to a subatomic disruptor which was seen in Voyager on a 29th century starship, but the Borg may not have been advanced enough to produce those. Therefore, the Borg cutting the Enterprise's hull shouldn't be used as proof that not all laser weapons are ineffective against Federation shields. Furthermore, there are at least a few canon sources stating that lasers in Star Wars are superheated plasma. Also, Data is far smarter than IG-88.

As seen in multiple episodes, the Enterprise has TACTICAL FTL - sensors mobility and weapons. Hyperspace is faster, but is only useful for strategic level movement. Unless immediately crippled, the Enterprise could fall back, and then move on the Star Destroyer 's flank and unleash photon torpedo salvos that would impact before the Imperials ever saw them coming. They rarely pull this sort of thing in the show, because if your enemy also has tactical FTL it's a wash and you're better off with more power to your shields. The Picard Maneuver is an example of this very sort of thing though. Ignoring this is the only thing that makes this matchup even seem close.

Eckhart: star trek especially changes the powers of it's weapons and technology to accoomadate the current plot sitation Admiral Holdo: Hold my beer....

Now if look at TNG season 4 episode12 you‘ll find out that the typical range of a federation starship at the same or inferior level of enterprise D is around 300,000 km which is about the distance between earth and the moon. Engaging an enemy in such distance takes under a second . While in Star Wars we’ve never seen a battle going on out of the visual range.

Enterprise has superior range, technology, and tactics. The star destroyer is designed to intimidate, the positions of its guns are impractical in battle and it has terrible manoeuvrability. I also think that you are not giving the transporter technology nearly enough credit.

It's funny, but I did my 2nd year dissertation on this very subject! The main thing it proved was that, no matter how interesting a subject is, applying a stupid amount of maths and physics to it can make anything boring as heck.

Considering the example you gave about the Romulan attack on a planet during the Dominion War. Given that the Romulans did inflict major damage to said planet, remember the the Enterprise of the Mirror Universe had the capability to destroy a planet with its weaponry as well. Also in TNG series the Enterprise could and did use its Phasers to pacify a highly seismic planet when Data established contact with a pre-warp culture on the verge of being wiped out by their own planet.

Phaser arrays seem able to apply constant damage and have no travel time as opposed to Star Wars laser weapons. So for me, Star Trek gets the edge. Also, the photon torpedo is more powerful than anything a star destroyer can muster; it causes massive antimatter explosions. The planet ending weapons are also interesting. The Star Wars universe needs a platform the size of the Death Star to blow up planets. The Star Trek universe needs the right torpedo

i remember it being established in an episode of star trek the next generation. the enterprise came across a species with laser based weapons. the enterprise's tritanium hull skin actually reflected enough energy away from the bolts that they didn't even bother to raise their shields.

The real question one has to ask themself is: In case of a showdown, on which ship would you rather be?

4:45 They definitely aren't lasers. A laser is a concentrated beam of photons, which obviously travel at the speed of light. Star wars "lasers" clearly do not.

how is this even a argument... I love both shows.. but its obvious that startrek ships easily outclass starwars ships.. Thats just how they were written...

One aspect of the Star Wars universe that you neglected to mention is that their shielding systems work differently from those in the Star Trek universe. Shields that can defend against both energy and physical impacts are extremely power intensive in Star Wars, and are usually only seen on planetary installations. Most SW ships employ ray shields that can defend against energy weapons, but not physical ordinance or impacts. It's safe to assume that the ISD employs ray shielding and uses its fighters or gunners to shoot down any incoming torpedoes. This immediately gives the Enterprise a huge advantage. It's phaser arrays are extremely accurate and can cover any angle of attack from an enemy force. Since the TIE fighters have no shields, they would be taken out very quickly, leaving only the Star Destroyer's gunners to deal with incoming torpedoes. Gunners in the Star Wars universe are notoriously inaccurate when shooting at anything starfighter size or smaller, so it is a virtual certainty that a ten-torpedo spread from the Enterprise would penetrate the ISD's defenses and cause considerable damage. While the destructive power of photon torpedoes varies wildly depending on the episode or movie you're watching, I believe that hitting the ISD's command tower or underside reactor blister would end the fight regardless - as these are known weak points. The ISD's only real chance is in keeping its TIE's in reserve to deal with torpedo attacks while its turbolasers hammer the Enterprise's shields, but this is not a typical Imperial tactic. Starfleet crews are known for their ability to adapt to new or unexpected situations, while Imperial crews rely on well established but inflexible doctrines. I have to give the edge to the Enterprise-D.

Lasers? Those won’t even penetrate our navigation shields.

All the Enterprise has to do is take out the Shield Generators and then target the bridge with a SINGLE photon Torpedo.

Combat tactics?!? Starfleet Captains use combat tactics. Star Destroyer Commanders depend on their many guns and Tie fighters. The Star Destroyer has a massive blind spot on the rear that Data or Worf would quickly identify after 10 - 15 seconds of battle while engaged in evasive maneuvers. Get directly behind the Star Destroyer and fire phasers and torpedos. Maneuvering to the underside of a Star Destroyer and firing several torpedoes directly into the hangar bay will take out the Tie fighters and potentially cause a massive loss of combat effectiveness for the Star Destroyer. I believe the USS Defiant would be an even more effective ship to use given its increased maneuvering capability.