She had a beautiful family, she was married to someone who wanted to take care of her, he seemed to be a responsible father and he obviously loved her. She had money AND freedom. She could have make such a positive difference in her community. There are so many things to do, so many good causes to be involved in. But nope. No no no, she was "bored". Some people just don't know how to win.
I know the type, she's what I call one of the 'beautiful people'. Attractive, selfish, average intelligence, their standard personality is a façade, they can put on an act of kindness even if they despise you to the core, because of their beauty they are used to getting their own way and having privileges gifted to them. A very dangerous women to marry.
Well, I just tell you what. The last time my husband said I couldn't use our personal plane to fly to the Bahamas, I told HIM that just because that plane was a plastic toy it would still fly. I've sobered up now, thank you very much.
Yeap, my ex was also inquiring about the taxes that would be due for the Aston Martin that I would have bought…if I won the lottery, and yes he is Ex now 😂
Have you ever been to one of those weddings where you just know the bride is going to run off with some bartender in the Bahamas, but the only real question is whether she’s going to eventually plot to have the groom killed? I know I have.
Beauty is skin deep, ugly goes clean through to the bone. I don't know about anyone else, but I have never asked someone to kill an ex, even joking around.
No kidding that is just bad taste at best. I obviously dont care to see them ever again but don't issue any ill will. I look at how one was dong and her life did not get much better later on in life. I had to get away from here because she was a serial cheater and yet still extremely demanding. Screw that lol. No she has "nested" gaining a ton of weight and not working expecting her man to pay for everything and take care of her. Sure dodged a bullet there. Living my life well is my revenge lol.
Imagine continually hitting the life lottery- beautiful, blonde, great family background, marry into wealth, healthy kids, beautiful home, and just throwing it all away for absolutely no reason
She still would have had a great life even after the divorce. The American divorce courts would have gave her the house, kids, assets, alimony and the husband's pension. I guess it still wasnt enough for her. She wanted him dead.
BORED!?! How about volunteering at your children’s school, serving food at a homeless centre, visiting the elderly at a rest home, reading to children at your local library and the list goes on and on.
How many single moms working two jobs, going to night school, getting next to zero child support and still manage to get their kids on time to soccer practice would gladly trade places with her? She has three kids. How many couples are spending thousands on fertility treatments trying to have just one? She was beyond ungrateful.
@@dianabodemer1889 she could have also just gone back to school again and work her up to a PHD if she was soooo bored. She could have even gone to school in the Bahamas! 😂😂😂
@@sugahoney89No sympathy....like previous comment...Bored? Poor baby...ya..get out there..voluntèer in your community...at hospitals,nursing homes,orphange,at a church...soup kitchen,the homeless,a food bank..an animal shelter...what a very SELFISH PERSON
Thank you Dr Grande for reviewing this case. I’d heard of it and couldn’t believe it at first. Lindsey had everything, bored is not a reason to betray your spouse.
I’ve been laid up in the hospital for the past month with bilateral tibia fracture in both legs and fasciotomies in each leg. Thank you Dr. Grande for the countless hours of entertainment. I hope you and this channel are the best and then you continue to grow and have the excellent an amazing contact you turn out every day. Amazing, sir.
I was laid up in a hellhole of a nursing facility for 2 months with a broken kneecap on one leg and a broken bone in the foot of the other. Dealing with the physical aspect was babycakes compared to dealing with the trauma I experienced as I witnessed inept and cruel treatment of incapacitated human beings by the nursing staff. I consider myself lucky I got out of that place. On a bright note, I, too, thoroughly appreciated countless hours spent watching Dr. Grande's videos and still appreciate them as I recover at home. If Lindsey was bored, she should have watched Dr. Grande instead of trying to get rid of her husband.
And Dr Grande basically took her side.. everything about this woman says “black widow/gold digger”.. and once she was bored of the “good/nice guy”.. she wanted to find the “bad boy exciting guy” and she found it and wanted the vacation to go on forever with the exciting guy and the good guys money. Like.. she flat out told him to do it and even explained/showed him the best way to do it. Unless they show some messages of her backing out of it shortly after or saying it was a joke (but, before she was caught).. then she definitely meant it. Just with everything else we know about this woman and how she acted after she got caught cheating.. yeah, if I was on that jury or the judge.. I would be convicting. Thank god that guy was caught for a unrelated crime first or they probably would’ve pulled it off
@@cluclap Even legally.. her telling him to do it and how to do it and sending him a picture of her husband so the guy knew what he looked like.. that sounds like a firm conspiracy of premeditated murder and as of right now, if I was on the jury.. I am convicting. I would need to see the whole text conversation between her and the boy toy and the hit man for nuance to see if they were only joking or not.. but you don’t bring in an actual other guy like that for a little dark humor joke between you and a lover.. not unless it’s something you’re serious about.
😂😂😂 I didn't realize Fox Hill prison was the name of the prison in Nassau Bahamas until I searched it up. I spat out my coffee when I came back to this comment 😂
I think it was unintentional, and she probably would've been happier had her husband not found out about the affair. I do not think she would not want to marry the Bahamians, but I could be wrong. The Bahamians know she would cheat on her husband, because she did. They would use her up for money and sex if they could.
Its never enough for disgusting people. She has the world and decides to cheat on him then try to get him killed. He provided her whole life and it wasnt enough
Her family lives in my town. She actually grew up here. Her family is good people and I can’t believe she did this. They aren’t defending her actions though from what I was told. So I hope the media or the internet doesn’t decide to attack them.
They ran down to the Bahamas and paid her bail and are putting her up in a luxury apartment while she awaits trial. Sounds like they are defending her to me.
Maybe Lindsay didn't really mean it. Maybe, she was just frustrated. I think there needs to be more to lock someone up over just words. Although, I feel very bad for her husband.
Very common for lots of people that are active on social media. Its funny seeing how some get caught faking their life style through sealing photos and editing them. It find it quire funny people stoop that low. Like who are you trying to impress? If you applied that effort to something productive maby you could actually get closer to that lifestyle you want.
Thank you Grande! Dang, you are a busy man with the videos. Consider a late summer vacation; you deserve it. We'll survive a day or 2 without a video, if you want to get away. ;-) Jokes aside, thanks again my friend! We appreciate all your hard work.
She didn't simply say to kill her husband. She showed a photo so that the murderer would recognize him. If she and the two men formulated a plan, she is definitely guilty.
Yes. In the footage with the police, she called them because he refused to go to Bahamas with her. She was actively trying to lure him there. The cops basically told her, we can't make your husband go on vacation with you and we wouldn't recommend you guys going since you're in the middle of a divorce." Why else was she desperately trying to get him there?
@@sugarspice7768I think he was already going to the Bahamas on his families private plane. She was mad bc she wanted a ride with him in that plane but bc he knew she was going to see the boyfriend he said no. She had to just get a regular flight to get there.
@@troy3456789Thank god she’s being tried in the Bahamas. Even with the evidence, if she was tried here, they’d let her off with probation or community service.
There are numerous more important factors in this case, but I'm a guy that gets targeted by high sensation-seeking women and to them, the lustre is the infatuation. When the relationship becomes two people living their daily lives together, in "baseline stability", without the sparkles and fuzzy feelings of the opening stages of the relationship, those women look for the fresh excitement elsewhere and abandon the monogamous commitment. As I was told by an ex a couple years ago - "you're not boring, but being in a relationship with you is."
@staninjapan9 As I said, they don't accuse me of being boring, they accuse the relationship of being boring. I communicate well, don't leave text messages on read receipt for many hours on end, I'm not a guy that hides things naturally, but overall a low-key, stable relationship is what I want but women who want a "push-pull" dynamic desiring lots of "mystery" go for me. One other ex yelled at me once, for not raising my voice at her in arguments (LoL). "Be a man, men YELL sometimes!"
@@elliebellie7816 True, but I was speaking to my own experience as a heterosexual male, identifying with a Dr. Grande video where a female similar to those I've dated, seemed to have similar issues they had with me. The gender dynamics are tied up in what I was responding to.
What is with these insolent, spoiled rotten brat nasty females DESTROYING their lives and their kids' lives and in the UTAH case, MURDERING their "good men" ??! HOLY COW this is insane
@@BNCole It's also people like Grande here excusing their behavior and coming up with all kinds of excuses...had this exact same situation occurred but with a man, he wouldn't even need to get to the conspiring to kill part and everyone would be calling for him to burned at the stake...but here we have a clearly evil woman who was caught red-handed trying to kill her husband (after cheating on him) and the so-called fair and balanced professional is subtly talking her side while most of the comments are making excuses...it's sickening
@@segsb7085Dude, you obviously don't understand Dr. Grande's facetious humor. He is not in any way "making excuses" for her. He is using his excellently dry & cutting wit to make fun of her & her ridiculous situation. He does the exact same when covering stories about men doing horrific things
Are you under the impression that money makes people.... Happy? Do you think people without money don't do the same stuff? They just don't have the money to take a jet away from their dysfunctional spouse... This isn't that hard to comprehend.
There is no such thing as sexual “satisfaction” and especially not for her, jeez, everyone is just a bunch of disgusting talking monkeys, if we’re honest about it
When I get bored I find a new hobby, not a new man. Geez. People deceive themselves by thinking they can get away with it. No one gets away with it. Thank you, Dr. Grande. Have a safe & happy Labor Day weekend.
You said, "if the police never found the messages nothing may have happened." You forgot to mention, and maybe he would have been murdered and this would be a much different story!
Thank you for pointing this out! This man is clearly biased in his view of the case already but, as usual, his ardent followers cannot see it....fair and balanced analysis my ....
I agree. Dr. Grande missed the point here for sure. Most people don't plot murder when they are angry. This woman is dangerous and should be dealt with strictly. Very interesting story indeed, about how the police found out. What a lucky guy/husband to be saved before those bunch of kooks made true of their murder plans!
The "kill him" message along with his picture is very telling. Like not only do I want you to "kill him" I'm going to make sure you know exactly who he is
Many get away with it, getting the gold mine while their husbands get the shaft. I think if you can prove your spouse was unfaithful, the unfaithful should get nothing at all as far as marital assets go. That is my opinion and it puts everyone on a fair playing field.
@@troy3456789 I feel deliberately cheating partner's, who lie repeatedly, should have to pay for the pain they inflict on a devoted spouse. There's no need to do that to anyone. Just leave once and for all. Better yet, don't get involved to begin with. You know who you are, don't do it.
She described the Bahamas as her “happy place” … posted a message on Instagram suggesting she was a quote “real Bahama mamma”: Still laughing! His detached delivery still somehow manages to sound so shady and disdainful.
She was spoiled Rotten and I hope she gets a serious sentence and lots of rodents to seep with. Way to throw your privileged life into the dumpster, Beauty Queen.
The grass ain't greener on the other side !! ...Especially when you're living in the most lush, green grass that 90+% of people will never enjoy. -- I'll never understand why any spouse in what "appears" to be a happy marriage, having a family and a VERY luxurious lifestyle...would throw it all away because they're bored ?? ...or just need a little excitement ?? Clearly the actions of someone that has been spoiled all or most of their life.... and has NO idea of the struggles most people have in life and would absolutely love to have that life this person takes for granted.
This “woman” ( child in reality) is in my opinion a prime example of how social media brainwashes seemingly normal people , into not actually living in reality , but in a parallel universe that in which you’re a reality star , getting into crazy quirky adventures mmmhmmmm no .., the reality check is gonna hit this chick so hard man … the utter audacity , to force your way onto an aeroplane belonging to a partner u r cheating on is just beyond me like I can’t even wrap my mind around wtf could have been her own Justification in her mind .. I’m At stay at home mom, I am 36 yrs old and I have 2 kids 14 months apart and I am BEYOND grateful that I get the chance to stay home !!! I’ve worked my entire adult life since I was old enough to legally work, and I am well aware of the rare privilege that I have in staying home with my kids .. if this chick had been just the *slightest* bit aware..I’m Sure she could have used that college educated brain and figured out that going to a country where her in laws have MAD influence, where $$$ talks, $ she doesn’t have of her own but her “abusive”husbands $, which she is gladly expecting him to fund that trip it’s just the entitlement is beyond me! Poor kids!!
I've watched a number of news reports and other RU-vid videos about this case. But this analysis provided a succinct overview with both information and professional insight that is not found elsewhere. Thank you very much, Dr Grande, for reviewing this case. Your videos are unique and well worth watching!
"Private jet fueled rage" got me I'll admit. Really helped me get over the fact that this involved a couple of Auburn grads. I didn't attend the university (except for lunch), but I was born and raised mere minutes from it, natch. Seems Lindsay did at least put that marketing degree to some use, mainly through her (presumably) now defunct "Bahama Mama" campaign. Looks like she may be totally done for though, with an extended period of jetsettin' in a Bahamian cell.
This type of thing his gone on for years..Many have been solved without high tech cellphones and GPS texting media etc. What pray tell are these people thinking in this day and age? Are they so wealthy they think they have a cloak of protection no one else has? I hope she is sentenced. Pull that red carpet out from under her self entitled prada slippers! I don't know. Some people are just never happy with what they have. I would be happy living in their garage! Glad no one was hurt though. He deserves his life and his children.
I spent a lot of time in the Bahamas, and was married to a Bahamian. Their government and judicial system is pretty corrupt, and the US Gov doesn't have a lot of influence there, so it will be interesting to see what happens. I have heard about the prison, and it's very bad. Prospects for this woman are not good.
When I looked online Fox Hill Prison was the name as Dr Grande said, which confused me because in The Bahamas I’ve only ever heard it called Her Majesty’s Prison.
Just a reminder, I'm not diagnosing anybody in this video; only speculating what could be happening when the Society for Real Cacti come knocking on my door asking questions that I can't answer.
Dr. Grande, can you also review the Amie Harwick case. She was murdered by a complete psychopath that she broke up with 8yrs earlier and he was still angry at her that many years later. The trial just started. Thank you!
I saw the partial video. Amazing & sad the accusations & behaviors that come out during divorce. Great to hear the story from you, excellent points🐀⛳️. Thanks Dr G😊🤍🤍
When Dr Grande said she had a different version of events I was like "she's going to accuse him of abuse and say she didn't feel safe" and bam! That's exactly what happened. They all have the same playbook.
Wild. I can easily believe that she wanted him gone but would she have gone through with it? Her defence can probably argue that she would have called it off. But imagine if the husband somehow knew and he is behind the police ‘just happening’ to find the messages 😁 that would be another level of something
She probably talked it out with the hitman before and they agreed and said just send me his picture so I don't get the wrong guy. So she sent the pic and gave it a little confirmation as well.
Any American inclined to commit felonies really shouldn't move to the Bahamas. Fox Hill is a nightmare. Move to Norway instead. Short sentences and the prison cells are more like a suite.
@@Hatbox948 Close. It's 21years. Even that psycho who went on a rampage at a youth camp is only sentenced to 21 years. Although there's some special provision in the law that allows someone like him to have his sentence extended indefinitely. But even he has 3 rooms to live in, a playstation, a TV. A lot of prisoners have furlough. The visitation policy is generous. Its definitely a great place to be a criminal.
@Dr Grande I just wanted to let you know that you did get the pictures of Lindsey’s cohorts confused, the one who you said, was the boyfriend was actually the hitman, or the alleged hitman.
Being single for 4 years doesn't seem too bad right now 😅 So much drama! The channel "Plunder" has tons of videos on this case if anyone is interested. The most recent one is of all the 911 calls made prior, great content.
Dry humor 😮😮😮😮 = excellent analytical mind. Mrs Shaver's future appears not as bright as her past but golf cart decorating talents may be a highly desired attribute.
I see this story pop up in my feed constantly but never bothered wanting to know about it, but since it's a Dr. G's video, I didn't skip it. This woman had it all, 8000sqft mansion, the luxury of being a stay at home mom raising young children instead of putting them in daycare with strangers, luxury cars and clothing, private jets, and she didn't bother to think twice. She didn't stop to think about what would happen if she got caught, give up a lavishing life for life behind concrete and steel bars. I didn't care that she cheated, but trying to conspire to kill was stupid. Don't she know people rarely get away with it? Not only would you take a life, you would take a parent away from those young children. Life goes on after a divorce or break up.
Sending a picture of an ex with his new girlfriend with the comment "kill him" is hardly a detailed plan. Many casually say words like that without any intent to kill.
Lol!!! Nice try. Lol!!! The sisterhood is back at it again. Lol!!!! Hold her accountable! If the roles were reversed the husband would have been sentenced to life imprisonment. No doubt about it.
I have seen the picture it's literally a Pic of the husband with his girlfriend at a bar with multiple people around he was also having his own affair so I get what you mean Doreen
