@@RobertMoore-pt9ep The lesson did not take long but had the biggest impact on what Brendon has desperately wanted to achieve a correct and natural way of getting forward lean on the shaft at impact what he calls lag tension. Brendon has been contriving and doing his best to manufacture impact and Milo has shown him it is a byproduct of doing the right things and the right things are quite simple when shown how. He is onto something here and needs to reinforce it and make it a habit and do what Milo advocates when learning something new, do it over and over SLOWLY to build it in. This is something he does not do he flitters around like a butterfly going from one fad to the next in hope of finding the magic trick that will put it all together. That is destined to fail , he needs to learn how to dig in and practice and build in the right habits so they get in the body and he has been shown the right habit here he needs to cultivate, he needs to talk to Milo about how to structure a training program to get what he has just learned in his body so it is habit before moving on. In practical terms the 2 guys he needs to stick with and go through the training are Milo and Tim Yelverton with the putting and short game and just practice over and over the principles they teach bit by bit so the changes are in him.
Just do this for 3 months. Honestly this is the best way to get this "feeling". See how your first attempt just focused on moving the arms only? Then Milo had to "force" you to move the body? This is basically all of us amateurs (regardless of skill level and experience, other than those that did some serious college golf & stayed AMs), we just cant trust that we aren't going to completely "lose" the arms when we start working on more rotation and have the ball fly dead right -- nice job!
That impact position reminds me of the video you did with Mike Malaska on shaft lean at impact, it points left. Whether you do it intentionally or the instructors you feature all have similar thoughts/ideas, it’s good to see/hear same thing different ways.
Excellent video! Keep working with Milo, he's awesome! (And my choice to win the match) Love seeing your game progress... a lot of fun to watch! Milo, Malaska, and Meichtry... The instruction you'll ever need is from those 3 guys!
Great job guys. Being a former baseball player and watching some of Milos other videos I can definitely relate to what you guys are teaching. The problem that I had is that I could never understand why II hit the ball so square and so long with a baseball bat, but couldn’t square up the golf club and why everything went right. After watching your videos and using the mindset of towing the club squarely through impact has helped me dramatically !!! I always thought this was hanging on, but as Milo has revealed this is the holy grail of moves and the right way to hit the golf ball. Again nice job guys !!!!
Baseball looks similar but the angle is completely different. In golf gravity and momentum "catch the club up" and square it as long as you learn to turn your chest.
Outstanding lesson! This has been THE feel I needed to help me "catch up" to my hip turn and get more consistent, solid contact and stop flipping. THANK YOU!
This is my exact issue... I've been tryong to work on split hand grip to parrallel and then really focus on rotation...Impact seems to be not as steep and more center contact! Good content.
Brendan, I do not have your speed but I do have a similar desire for hands/arms to want to outrun the body! Yet after watching you with the smartest golf coach I see improvement. I pick Milo to outdrive most he goes against if for nothing more than his accuracy.
Love these videos, Milo is just awesome. I think the athletic way he talks about swinging is absolutely the way to go. What’s the best drill to start this swing and stop being “over the top” with the shoulders?
It finally looks like a golf swing!!! One thing I'm having a hard time distinguishing is the fact that the driver feels like it has to be different? Does the driver require a little more throw. Obviously this compression and holding make perfect sense with a wedge or a Niner but does it change as you get into longer clubs?
Great video. Another great byproduct of keeping the shaft parallel to the chest is that in order to hit the ball it forces you to maintain proper posture at impact.
Hi Brendan, the best thing that I see here is your first move is a loading of the left leg, then a push back loading of your right leg. This gets your rhythm going so that your weight transfer is earlier and better, which causes you to be able to flush it in that hold off (I like prerelease position better). I think hold off creates a lack of flow, where prerelease is just a position on the way to a finish. I am taking about ~7:30 in this video. That load to target before the backswing is killer... and of course Milo is the man... looks great. Alan
every mid handicapper like me should do this drill. It’s the only way to overcome a flip/early release because it’s the extreme opposite of a fault that in my swing is also an extreme. When I do a full swing I try to feel I’m holding it off the whole swing. When I watch a video of me doing that the club actually releases properly with a finish a bit like Tommy Fleetwood I compress the ball and it never goes left. I do this drill and nothing else twice a week for 250 balls and 6 weeks in I am enjoying ball striking and accuracy that I have never know before. Thank you Milo.
I took a lesson from Milo several years ago when he was working more closely with Malaska but he was not really a fan of that approach. At the 3:48 mark in this video he seems to be demonstrating and dismissing the "Malaska move." You have worked with each instructor. If you could discuss without hurting anyone's feelings, which approach seems more natural or effective to you?
Yes and yes. Milo and I talked about this for a long time this day. I don’t know what the missing link is yet. Milo wants me going up and down the ladder blending it
So I’m literally still at the range right now after watching this video and wow did that tip really help me to rotate through the downswing with my irons. Many of my shots had a nice draw and were compressed. Didn’t quite work so well with the driver though... is this supposed to be the same feel with the driver? Keeping the right elbow in like that?
@@BEBETTERGOLF probably explains why it was terrible with the driver. Didn’t feel right at all lol. But I was so convinced because of how damn well it worked with the irons! Thanks!
For me, the no-throw swing concept made more sense the second you pointed out that the club won't reach the ball if your hips extend (you stand up) in the downswing. I was taught to play back in the '80's back when your power source was extend and throw. The problem is you've got to play and practice an awful lot to time this type of move and it STILL fails when the heat is on. I've lost tournaments standing on 18 tee at -1 and flash one OB ... tournament lost! You might get through 18 holes under par with extend and throw but good luck with 36 hole + tournaments. Guys have done it obviously but it's difficult.
This movement is very important. I like to use an alignment stick in my grip with the end going out about a foot from the end of the club, then make sure it rotates around my body through impact.
What do the arms feel like in trying to synchronize the matchup with the chest parallel? Are the arms passive, or how much active? What do you emphasize to get to those parallel positions? Is it more body and rotational in emphasis? What should the arms be doing?
The impact portion was great and the drill was excellent, but I think there was a far more important golden nugget in there. The shaft parallel to the chest. I would imagine getting the shaft parallel to the chest as quickly as you can would build crazy good consistency. This precedes impact and should be a focal point to get to impact and through
Good stuff. Seems to highlight two schools of thought regarding the golf swing. The "rotating the body" vs a more "arms swing " My question is which is best for the older - less athletic golfer? When watching rotating the body videos you rarely see a golfer >50 showcased. My experience (being in that category) is this method is difficult - and hard on the body. Maybe for younger more flexible golfers - like you and Milo - this method is doable. But for the rest of us who are watching, I am not so sure.
@@MiloLinesGolf I’m 67 and I’d say the difference is psychological because the hands release feels more powerful and satisfies the need to “hit” the golf ball which I’ve done most of my golfing life.. The body release is a completely different strike in fact it doesn’t feel like a “hit” at all. I was astonished how far the ball went when I did the half swing drill because the club just released it self in fact even now it still feels like I’m holding the club off the whole swing but on video it’s releasing with shaft lean. I’m reasonably fit but making this work had nothing to do with my flexibility it was about replacing an old subconscious move with a new one. I did this drill twice weekly and nothing else for 3 months, still do it now. It was chaos at first but it is now becoming second nature/subconscious and I’m loving how effortless it feels and I’m addicted to the compressed impact. Thanks Milo
@@MiloLinesGolf Thanks for the acknowledgment Milo, I live in London UK and take lessons every 6 weeks or so it’s a hobby within itself working on the swing. My pro is teaching me the same elements you cover in your posts. Your explanations and teaching adds so much clarity to what we’re working on plus your drills are so effective for me. Glad I found you bro, you are a gifted teacher and I hope you reap the rewards you deserve.
To some people this might not look so impressive but when you fight a flip, and poor impact position that’s on your trail leg for YEARS , this is amazing breakthroughs here. I can get my desired impact by doing small swings and feeling like I’m holding off the release forever, but I never know when it’s ok to release the club. So is it okay to just feel like I hold off the release forever until my arms anatomically want to release from the centripetal forces? I’m still a bit confused on how to incorporate this into a full 100% swing.
You never need to feel like you’re actively releasing. It’s next to impossible to prevent the wrist lever from unloading when you move it in a circular arc at speed.
How do you maintain "the angles" to get to those parallel positions in the flow of the swing? Do the arms simply fall via gravity from the top of the backswing?
Big question: how do you get from great contact when ball is on short tee to when ball is actually on ground? That really small distance of a short tee results in 20 yd loss of distance when ball goes on ground?.. Really enjoy Milo’s stuff
is it better for the lead foot to turn counter-clockwise from the heel on the downswing? i feel like i get a much better turn when i do that.. haven't tried it with golf shoes on tho..
A good way to feel this post impact is to practice 5-20 yd carry chips but from a Full swing set up. I confess i nicked this drill from Matt Christian and use it with his concepts of rooting and lead centre of shaft. It becomes a very addictive drill as it feels so sweet especially with 80 comp(soft) balls!
@@BEBETTERGOLF i dont know why it does! maybe its easier to feel the flow or it helps the big muscles co -ordinate with soft arms, or you have to use the ground and big muscles due to wide stance and/or you have total control of the shaft and dont do handsy flip. Anyway Milos drill is great and i do at least 30 % of my practice with these sort of drills but when i was a hacker i just wanted to wack it as hard as i could.
PS for a valid reply you would have to ask MC,hes based in texas,another original thinker and dedicated to teaching golf like Milo is. Thanks for all the great videos and hope you have some good comp scores this year reflecting your massively improved swing and distance gains.
@@BEBETTERGOLF On reflection the drill is probably demonstrating/harnessing the power of Tai Chi! Where extreme dynamic power is a result of practising slow controlled movements connected to the ground. Ive never done tai chi but i think MC is an expert.
I'd like to see you try a lesson with Mike bender, his swing is a all about arm speed and keeping the chest back and not opening up to early this is where it all becomes a bit confusing but would to see your interpretation
I talked with Mike before and we did a Be Better School at his place in Lake Mary. Tony and Mike are on the same page with arms swing speed ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-7nMsmsI_JZg.html
Your moving good now... keep working on that.. once you get that lead arm separated from chest passing the open chest you will gain 5 mph. look at cameron champ and dj.
@@BEBETTERGOLF imagine this situation... if you watch your arms and hands the connectors to the club. picture where the speed is. is the right arm and hand moving at a constant MPH[speed] ! and then the left hand shuts down not producing any mph [speed] what if that left lead arm and hand was still producing speed with no stall out wouldn't the overall speed be faster having both hands accelerating together... a great drill to start getting that lead arm And hand to continue accelerating past arm and chest connection limits. is to dissociate them... try putting a range basket under your lead arm to see this work. you'll start to see that you can tow into the ball better plus start to see the lead arm still producing speed to the overall equation!!!!! not shutting down to match up just because hand eye coordination makes it. you have to trick your hand eye coordination to continue to produce speed moving forward not flipping and stalling. I think from watching you can easily get up to a 118 average with new highs in the 120s. ONCE you get that arm to start producing speed disassociate FROM THE CHEST. NOW WATCH CAMERON CHAMP and DJ
@@ryancseplo5824 great comment. I’ve been working on this. When I focus on leading with my left side and accelerating my left hand and arm all the way through, my pivot automatically kicks in and I get a full release of my right side👍
Milo rotates his head forward more than any player I have ever seen... he is looking well past the ball going into impact... check out 3:01 mark of the video...he is looking a foot in front of the ball well before impact.... is that a good thing for accuracy and hand to eye coordination?
Idk. He said he started doing that because DUVALL was world #1 when he started. And it just stuck. Gear measured Milo and he is the most open player they have measured. He is also the most accurate long player I have ever played with. Connection? Not sure
@@BEBETTERGOLF there is a connection I have extremely low rate of closure and no manipulation in the hitting area which is why I hit it straight without any practice
From p5 to p7 you look great best ever imo. Your clubface is much squarer at p5 than it used to be. It’s like you now have the green light to pivot. I think you need to think about a finish swivel after both arms straight after doing this new move though, let the club overtake. You seem frightened of truly letting it overtake and release fully (maybe in case you hook it?).
Milo said in another video that there is no turning until the pressure is on the left foot. When I look at ur swings here that's definitely not the case.
Still so much conflicting info around release and speed. Some argue you can’t get any significant speed with the approach of just rotating your shoulders/body through and that you MUST use arms to generate the whip/snap needed for speed. Then you have Milo that literally said to you “no don’t release it like that”, suggesting you hold the angle all the way through. Any thoughts on this?
What I’m suggesting is you don’t use your muscles to release the club. Release is automatic and will time itself better if you create the proper conditions and get out of the way.
@@MiloLinesGolf Got it, I think I see what you’re saying. I think the feeling I’m going to try and achieve this with is feeling like I have a more open chest at impact while keeping supple wrists. Thanks for the feedback!
To clarify when I say throw I’m talking about manually releasing it or pulling the arms forward and flipping the head at the ball. A true throw is released by momentum which is what we want we just want it to happen through the ball not at or before it.
@@MiloLinesGolf Milo, I understand all teachers of the golf swing are trying to teach the proper mechanics of the swing, most often from their personal perspective. I was just making mention of the past video's of Malaska on this RU-vid channel who was teaching a "tipping " from the top and his "throwing " motion through impact.
@@MiloLinesGolf One more thing, One of the best golf books ever written was PGA professional Mike Hebron "Feel and see the inside move the outside". I think that book is what most today are trying to teach in their own ways. This game is tough LOL. Back in the day it was taught on feels, today we have GEARS that actually show the real data.
@@MiloLinesGolf I remember the 9 ball flight rules I was taught back in the 1980s. today GEARS and other software deemed those false. I owned several course records and recorded a 59 in competition back then with those false assumptions. HaHa go figure.
@@godsdozer well the interesting thing is that if you try to point the face at the target and swing the the right or left you’ll almost always get the face aimed slightly right for draws and slightly left for fades it just wasn’t quite understood but good players could control the ball just as well then as now.
I remember Milo doing a video where he swung really fast, it was 132 mph clubhead speed. Drew tops out at 135 mph. Still have to weigh in other factors, but I'm going with Drew...barely.
One guy on the range, one! If anything was open around here (it will be in a few weeks once it warms up) there wouldn’t be a spot to be had from dawn until dusk.
@@MiloLinesGolf the Lines line of visual aides used in golf. Come up with something that has to do with lines in a package that helps the golfer set up or swing properly. Tons of combinations. Draw lines on a tool that assists the average golfer how to set up to different shots for example. Lines are the theme here where your name mimics the products. Lines lines etc. Milo’s Lines will line you up to better golf! Anyways, that’s all I’ve got. lol You have to come up with something unique in this regard. Something that will help the average golfer find a better approach to their swing.
Whatever u can hit the ball better with. Hall of fame has both styles. Tiger has said either one depending on the time of his career. Try it and see if it benefits u
Im confused about Milo Line lesson on line most of time i turn on my computer to watch him giving lesson there is Be Better golf with him asking stupid question. who is he? (Be Better Golf ) his he a teaching pro or one of those RU-vidr like the Jake Paul brothers making money out of other people business..
Why do golf coaches need to be patronizing and condescending “That’s the idea!” Like everyone’s a idiot except them. Most professionals people golf and are sometimes infinitely smarter than a golf pro.
I teach multiple tour players and they all do this drill often. It’s an exaggeration of what will happen under speed but for the player that stall flips its a great impact feel
