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MILWAUKEE 8 STAGE 4 ENGINE DIAGNOSIS AND DAMAGE INSPECTION , OIL FILTER INSPECTION ECT PART 1 

Brad The Wizard
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IN THIS VIDEO WE GET A VEHICLE INTO THE SHOP WITH A TERRIBLE ENGINE NOISE. THE BIKE HAS A SCREAMING EAGLE STAGE 4 KIT AND WE DIAGNOSE WHATS WRONG.
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Комментарии : 96   
@smokeGR14
@smokeGR14 4 года назад
Another M8 with stage upgrade engine failure...HD M8 have issues..3rd on RU-vid that I follow with an M8 issue and the other 2 had stage upgrade SE ...only safe M8 upgrade I've seen is done by Traveling Tall had his bike done by Zippers ..which when upgrading they checked all clearances and piston ..oiling ..they addressed all issues they seen..unlike most HD shops just slap parts on...
@smvsounds
@smvsounds 4 года назад
smokeGR20 cause Zippers is pure performance shop! When I first started drag racing I meet those guys at rising sun drag strip in Maryland. They had some fast and reliable HD’s then and that was in the early 90’s! Tall picked one of the best shops on the east coast to do the work! I myself have a 19 RG 107 and they will be doing the work on my motor also!
@kadimsilahtar
@kadimsilahtar 4 года назад
That inspection of Zippers was unbelievably precise, you are right about it all.
@CactusJack252
@CactusJack252 4 года назад
Thank God I live about an hour away from them. When I cam my sportster they will be the only ones to do it.
@jerrydouglas7643
@jerrydouglas7643 4 года назад
Very interesting video! Looking forward to the 2nd video.
@HarleyDavidsonWizard
@HarleyDavidsonWizard 4 года назад
More to come!
@kingkrimson8771
@kingkrimson8771 4 года назад
Just more validation of my decision to use all S&S parts when I did my Stage 2 upgrade
@harleydave2316
@harleydave2316 4 года назад
Agreed
@richardedwin5980
@richardedwin5980 4 года назад
I've seen lots of S&S parts fail too. I had a S&S cam & bearing installed and it failed. So can't point the finger solely at HD
@kingkrimson8771
@kingkrimson8771 4 года назад
@@richardedwin5980 Many reports on the Harley forums of problems with the Harley stage kits, especially the earlier ones. Poorly machined pistons and cylinders leading to engine failure. I've never had a problem with an S&S part, hence my choice to use them. YMMV.
@HarleyDavidsonWizard
@HarleyDavidsonWizard 4 года назад
👍
@JeffinTD
@JeffinTD 3 года назад
I’ve heard that sound before. I think your problem is a soup can fell into the garbage disposal. Great video.
@Bagrman-kt1ot
@Bagrman-kt1ot 4 года назад
Come on brad ... don’t leave us hanging 🧐🧐🧐🧐
@HarleyDavidsonWizard
@HarleyDavidsonWizard 4 года назад
lol. The other vids are now up!!
@a11ten071
@a11ten071 3 года назад
Stumbled into your channel by error, but it was the best move I made. Always looking forward to your videos. Thank you for taking the time & sharing your expertise with others.
@HarleyDavidsonWizard
@HarleyDavidsonWizard 3 года назад
Thanks for the compliment!
@tobpitbull
@tobpitbull 4 года назад
Failed lifter.. then rest follows... interesting that the wix filter did it’s job collecting metal
@HarleyDavidsonWizard
@HarleyDavidsonWizard 4 года назад
👍
@ogt92fromthe1step9
@ogt92fromthe1step9 3 года назад
Why knock on wix they are one of the best filters out on the market today. Also probably double the price of the 12$ oem one lol
@DG-fm6ti
@DG-fm6ti 4 года назад
Sooo looking forward to part 2 of this video!!!
@HarleyDavidsonWizard
@HarleyDavidsonWizard 4 года назад
👍
@mickc4633
@mickc4633 4 года назад
Yes ever since Harley started outsourcing their lifters. Before it was the cam bearings now it’s the lifters. 5 to 15,000 miles and they blow part sometimes anyway especially on CVO’s
@skcm2006
@skcm2006 4 года назад
You have my attention. Looking forward to the next video
@HarleyDavidsonWizard
@HarleyDavidsonWizard 4 года назад
👍
@taps_1021
@taps_1021 4 года назад
A wise man once told me leave it stock if you want to be happy. Did I listen no. Live and learn.
@HarleyDavidsonWizard
@HarleyDavidsonWizard 4 года назад
LOL For Reals!!
@RobertPerez001
@RobertPerez001 4 года назад
To see the bigger chunks you can cut the filter element out, and then put it in a vice to squeeze out all the oil. It picks up better on camera. Also I blew up a sportster running six filters, it looked the same. I believe that’s a automotive oil filter so it doesn’t help very much with cold start pressure.
@HarleyDavidsonWizard
@HarleyDavidsonWizard 4 года назад
I'll try that next time. Thanks!!
@reygonzalez568
@reygonzalez568 3 года назад
thank you for the reply, Merry Christmas.
@thakery5720
@thakery5720 4 года назад
So I am watching this at breakfast time as I prepare to change the swing arm on my Dyna - bearing needed replacing and I have a spare swing arm so no problem there.... I just got done the other day fitting the 'new' cylinders and pistons to the bike along with S&S camplate and oil pump. First start - run for a minute, next day run for 5 minute run and listening to the engine (both times) I thought I heard lifter noise, but no - it's in the primary (manual chain adjuster needs tightening I hope)....... I am so glad I am not the owner of that bike..... but then it's warranty so..... I have doubts about wether the cranks are strong enough for all the power the stage 4's make. I have had adjustable pushrods 'de-adjust' (because I didn't tighten the lock) and make a noise like that.... what a relief it wasn't as serious as that bike you have there..... Either leave it all alone, or get the bike warranteed boys and girls - if the price of parts doesn't kill you, the labour will !
@HarleyDavidsonWizard
@HarleyDavidsonWizard 4 года назад
Thanks for the view and comment!!
@richardsak887
@richardsak887 4 года назад
Metal in filter...looked like some vertical scoring on the cylinder walls. Even tops of the pistons, particularly the rear, looked like signs of heat. Did they upgrade the oil pump when they installed the stage 4? Might have been bypass spring/valve issue on the stock oil pump leading to low pressure and not enough oil getting to the heads.
@CactusJack252
@CactusJack252 4 года назад
Richard Sak Harley doesn’t upgrade the pumps on their kits. They really need to.
@kadimsilahtar
@kadimsilahtar 4 года назад
Thnx Brad again. While the cause is something to be fixed, I just wonder if that reusable oil filter with a magnet in could be of any help. Or what if we place an outer strong magnet at the bottom of the stock filter, would it be of any help, assuming that the magnet drain plug is far away?
@HarleyDavidsonWizard
@HarleyDavidsonWizard 4 года назад
I would say the failure created the metal and magnet wouldn't of prevented the problem. Thanks for the comment and view!
@gordiehattrick
@gordiehattrick 4 года назад
Great video Brad! It sounds like cam/oil pump issues, the knocking sound seems louder on the right side of the motor. But, I agree with @Richard Sak (LOL, like Richard Cranium) scoring on the cylinder walls sure looks like it was starved of oil. I guess we will see in Part 2!
@HarleyDavidsonWizard
@HarleyDavidsonWizard 4 года назад
Could be
@ryanbassett2091
@ryanbassett2091 4 года назад
Wix filters are a high quality filter. As long as it was designed for the motorcycle, it's good to go!
@HarleyDavidsonWizard
@HarleyDavidsonWizard 4 года назад
👍
@gsfinatic
@gsfinatic 4 года назад
Looking forward to part two.
@HarleyDavidsonWizard
@HarleyDavidsonWizard 4 года назад
2 and 3 are up! Thanks!!
@ajkylen
@ajkylen 3 года назад
Great music sounds like the Grateful Dead
@TheBigkal201
@TheBigkal201 4 года назад
Let’s say I want a stage 4 down the road after my warranty expires....do dealers give warranties on that or any assurances that would make me as a customer whole if a mistake was made during installation? Thanks great work man keep it up super interesting video you got goin on
@AshHol01
@AshHol01 4 года назад
Great question but I think is 1 year
@CactusJack252
@CactusJack252 4 года назад
Just a year. I would get a kit from zippers, fuel moto, etc
@HarleyDavidsonWizard
@HarleyDavidsonWizard 4 года назад
After the original 60 days from the date of vehicle purchase the accessories no longer would be able to be covered under Custom Coverage as parts must be added within 60 days and paperwork filed with the Motor Company to be added to the vehicle warranty of two years. After that, parts only carry on over the counter warranty and repairs are customer pay labor. An aftermarket extended warranty may caver it. ---Definitely not Harley Davidson Extended Service Protection --- But I've have good experiences with RPM extended service covering "after the warranty" engine damage.
@robbo6799
@robbo6799 4 года назад
Another reason I only go as far as cams, exhaust, intake and tuner.
@HarleyDavidsonWizard
@HarleyDavidsonWizard 4 года назад
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@Cwra1smith
@Cwra1smith 4 года назад
Fill it full of STP and send it back out the door! ;-)
@davepelfrey3958
@davepelfrey3958 4 года назад
🤣🤣
@gordiehattrick
@gordiehattrick 4 года назад
LMAO! I haven't heard that in decades!
@HarleyDavidsonWizard
@HarleyDavidsonWizard 4 года назад
👍
@davidfellows6250
@davidfellows6250 3 года назад
I'm at 3 minutes wristpin out and skirt slap? Sounds bad even on you tube on my phone.
@ericnuernberg3901
@ericnuernberg3901 4 года назад
Fantastic video! Thanks for the education 👍🍺
@HarleyDavidsonWizard
@HarleyDavidsonWizard 4 года назад
Glad you enjoyed it
@WO2GSCOTT
@WO2GSCOTT 4 года назад
A bit of time wasting with bore scope when you have check compression which would tell me that the cylinders are OK
@HarleyDavidsonWizard
@HarleyDavidsonWizard 4 года назад
Ya. A few of the motions were for the viewers experience. Honestly, in a normal situation after hearing that noise I would go straight to a full tear down. But when I start making a video I don't know how its going to end up, like I was thinking of taking a poll after the first video of viewer gusses and what was wrong but changed my mind during editing Thanks for the view and comment!.
@bobberguy1
@bobberguy1 4 года назад
Dear MoCo: I have a $30,000 bike that sounds like grandma's sewing machine and runs like a turtle.
@kevincraig8257
@kevincraig8257 4 года назад
It is not uncommon to have a bad batch of valve springs these days looks like the guy is going to get a new engine
@HarleyDavidsonWizard
@HarleyDavidsonWizard 4 года назад
👍
@djmorgan8783
@djmorgan8783 2 года назад
I got a 2020 milwaukee-eight I run the Harley Oil Filter I'm going to put an S&S oil pump in it would I still be good with the Harley Oil Filter or maybe looking at a K&n oil filter
@HarleyDavidsonWizard
@HarleyDavidsonWizard 2 года назад
The bikes that have 100k that I see come through the dealership always seem to have harley Davidson oil and harley davidson oil filters on them. So that's what I use. Your option. I'd still us the HD filter.
@tax905972
@tax905972 4 года назад
Tell the advisor to note it. That’s Their job.
@HarleyDavidsonWizard
@HarleyDavidsonWizard 4 года назад
I've been saying that for 7 years. Lol. It still hasn't happened. Lol
@tax905972
@tax905972 4 года назад
@@HarleyDavidsonWizard lazy asses.
@TheBigkal201
@TheBigkal201 4 года назад
Duuuuuuuude where’s part 2?!
@HarleyDavidsonWizard
@HarleyDavidsonWizard 4 года назад
It's on its way!! The next day or two.
@CactusJack252
@CactusJack252 4 года назад
Patience young padawan
@BFG100K
@BFG100K 4 года назад
I thought “They all do that”... if you ask a dealer.
@HarleyDavidsonWizard
@HarleyDavidsonWizard 4 года назад
The other dealership people usally do say that!! Lol
@stephenfleming7056
@stephenfleming7056 4 года назад
Will H-D cover warranty as its Non H-D filter? Think my 107 is staying stock in the engine department anyway.
@HarleyDavidsonWizard
@HarleyDavidsonWizard 4 года назад
Correct. Hd is covering this engine failure even without a oem filter.
@gdubbsmotolife9713
@gdubbsmotolife9713 3 года назад
Sounds like oil isn't getting up to the head of the rear cylinder
@reygonzalez568
@reygonzalez568 3 года назад
why did the WIX oil filter not void the warrantee?
@HarleyDavidsonWizard
@HarleyDavidsonWizard 3 года назад
It's some government act deal where your allowed to used any oil and any filter as long as they meet the minimum requirements recommended for the vehicle.
@alfonsothegreat4481
@alfonsothegreat4481 4 года назад
When you make an upgrade like this stage 4, do you still stay with the OEM oil filter??
@HarleyDavidsonWizard
@HarleyDavidsonWizard 3 года назад
Yes. we use the OEM oil filter on every engine combination,
@fotiskroustallas8322
@fotiskroustallas8322 4 года назад
where is the 2 part video?
@HarleyDavidsonWizard
@HarleyDavidsonWizard 4 года назад
Its on its way. In the next day or two.
@AshHol01
@AshHol01 4 года назад
You didn't finish the video cutting the other one open?
@HarleyDavidsonWizard
@HarleyDavidsonWizard 4 года назад
Cuttiing open the filter is in part 2 comming soon.
@pugloverg6671
@pugloverg6671 4 года назад
That whole cam cheat might go bad soon
@HarleyDavidsonWizard
@HarleyDavidsonWizard 4 года назад
👍
@Kash6161
@Kash6161 4 года назад
Yer that looked nasty.
@HarleyDavidsonWizard
@HarleyDavidsonWizard 4 года назад
Its a real mess!!
@BobsGT235
@BobsGT235 4 года назад
Leave any Harley like it came from the factory. Way less chance of problems.
@HarleyDavidsonWizard
@HarleyDavidsonWizard 4 года назад
👍
@pugloverg6671
@pugloverg6671 4 года назад
Holy moly that sounds terrible Tensioner..???
@HarleyDavidsonWizard
@HarleyDavidsonWizard 4 года назад
👍
@slyguyaction
@slyguyaction 4 года назад
Another grenaded M8. I’ll keep my TwinCam.
@Cwra1smith
@Cwra1smith 4 года назад
That's OK, I'll wait for you to catch up at the rest area.
@HarleyDavidsonWizard
@HarleyDavidsonWizard 4 года назад
Lol. The M8 does have great power!!
@samrotolo7303
@samrotolo7303 4 года назад
I would have to give it a grade of F to. LOL
@HarleyDavidsonWizard
@HarleyDavidsonWizard 4 года назад
F- LOL
@user-zz3nv6hw2s
@user-zz3nv6hw2s 3 года назад
Just junk...absolutely sad that people are being mislead to think Harleys are still a good bike...for me the evolution engine was a solid built machine..now it's all fuel injection junk..no quality control at all no wonder the company is dead..so sad
@Glen-hn9wu
@Glen-hn9wu 4 года назад
Why would you spend that kind of money on a air cooled pushrod motor ?? Boring get a real bike !!!
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