I was running this saw for about 2 hours at about a 30-50% duty cycle ru-vid.comUgkxfQm1wmg0ItKDLavxj1nXtQY9HP7EF504 and it did a great job. I used the lever for the built in sharpener to clear chip buildup out more than to actually sharpen the chain. It managed to cut some hardwood stumps much larger than it's size without bothering the neighbors with hours of 2 stroke noise.
Battery chainsaws, even if performance is a bit worse than a gas chainsaw, arent all that bad actually. One thing i like is that i can use them inside the shop to cut firewood when its -30°C outside.
This video did it for me. I'm getting the milwaukee chainsaw. For me the Milwaukee is definitely faster as it does not need to be prepped for work. Just add bar oil + battery and its good to go. I can see that its much less maintenance down the road. Thanks for the video.
Meor Azmi Did you get a Milwaukee electric chainsaw? If so, how do you like it? I was planning to get one as well to supplement my battery powered Milwaukee tools. But reviews for the electric saws by Milwaukee, Husky and Stihl have discouraged me from Milwaukee. The Milwaukee came in dead last for 4 reasons: 1) It had a greater tendency to stall (as seen in this video) 2) The very narrow chain had a much greater tendency to slip out of the bar 3) The chain lube system tended to leak and also spray too much oil 4) The chain tensioning system was weak and more awkward than Stihl's tool-less means.
One thing to keep in mind... even if the Milwaukee is slower (it seems pretty close anyways) you don’t have to put up with trying to start the dang thing by pulling the gas chainsaw 30 times before you get it to start. And then once it starts trying to keep it from cutting out on you. The Milwaukee will have much less maintenance and you have instant power. Not to mention not needing to buy gas for it!
I love my milwaukee tools with a passion. But i have to defend my love for chainsaws, amd good running chainsaw should start in less than 5 pulls bone cold. Run without quitting and start up first pull when warm, if not, its not the saw. Its a lack of maintenance.
@@billyboots3730 Imagine if you had to press the "start" button on a cordless saw at least 5 times to get it going. It would be pretty annoying and lame, wouldn't be? And then it would run super noisy and vibrate like a tractor.
Physix I get that this is a trope of they don’t make things like they used too but it isn’t easy to make a new chainsaw last 30 years some of it is the ethanol but even buying ethanol free gas these small 2 stroke motors just don’t last anymore.
@@snakebagel9729 I've got my husqvarna 353 going on 20 years old. Always used pump gas... everything is original except the bar,chain fuel filter, spark plug and air filter. The bar Oiler has recently been starting to give me issues however...
Going from my personal experience with their circular saws, I found that the stock blades that Milwaukee provides do a decent job but an aftermarket replacement blade allowed my circular saw to run through 15mm pressed laminate like a hot knife through butter. Their tools have decent power but perhaps see if a different chain does any different.
That's a lot better than I expected. Very good test too. I would have swapped people because the old guy's technique was much better and could have contributed to his wins. Thx for sharing.
I work for a big utility company. We use the M18 to cut up telephone / utility poles. They’ve been a game changer, along with Milwaukee’s other tools. We are literally at the point we dont even need 110v electricity on the trucks for 90% of what we do.. its used by some just to charge batteries, but the 12v plug in the cab can do that too, and for some that IS what they use for the batteries. The occasional 110v manhole pump and blower is all those $5000 truck mounted power inverters are needed for now. Cordless chainsaws, cordless demo saws, even a cordless jackhammer now.. its crazy.
Great video. I'm debating replacing my '97 Huskie with the Milwaukee. For homeowner use, I think doing away with carburetors (cleaning, setting) fuel and air filters , spark plugs would be nice. You can set it on the shelf for a few months, charge the battery and turn it on.
Exactly why I just picked up a milwaukee. I used mine old Stihl almost enough that it didn't bother me, cut up multiple cords of wood a year but the ability to simply grab and go, not have to look for gas, not have to make sure I haven't had the gas sit and go stale and cause problems, etc. is nice to have. Yea you can run out of battery using the milwaukee but for any homeowner thats not a problem, you're not cutting 8 hours a day non stop hard work on the saw so the time constraint with a 12 amp battery isn't an issue.
My buddy brought a Jonsered electric 14" up north with us in sub zero Fahrenheit temps. He left it out overnight by accident, and we had to go forage for wood the next day. We ended up finding a couple of 10-12" diameter birch (not hard) and ash (quite hard) logs. They were both between 15-20 feet long. He proceeded to effortlessly cut through this stuff, until we had a pile of ~18" long logs. The saw went down to 50% power, but that was exceedingly impressive. Especially after leaving the saw in the cold overnight.
Nice comparison. The ole 026 is a pro grade saw, vs a homeowner Milwaukee cordless tool. I would say the Milwaukee is impressive for what it is. Dollar for dollar the Milwaukee cuts good. Just price a prograde gas saw.
Waoo baterry chainsaw done a great job but old man know used a gas chainsaw for many years great skill great to see a dad and son testing skill God bless you guys
no doubt the stihl cuts faster... but that milwaukee cuts pretty fast too.. if ya ask me the milwaukee wins hands down just from not having to put gas in it and worry about that stuff.. but over all it has much less noise no carb rebuilds no exhaust clean outs no spark plug to worry about no ignitions system no air filter and no starting... the milwaukee wins without a doubt.. i have one over here that i just got and still haven't gotten a chance to try it out.. i also have a few stihl saws and a couple husqvarna saws.. considering the husky saws are 36 and 48" saws the still have their place but for 90% of my cutting from now on will be with the milwaukee...
you just need 500 bucks worth in batteries an rapid charger and a power source compared to a can of oil and gasoline and a spark plug here and there. It seems the maintainceless Milwaukee what is more or less a secondary ground cutter for an professionelle or for an DIYer comes to an price of an actual professionelle logger tool.
Having owned and run a Stihl 026 for over 25 years, I have to say that I am impressed how close the Milwaukee came to the Stihl's cut speed. The 026 is a professional saw rated to produce 3.5 HP. The Stihl is a great saw. It appears the Milwaukee is also. I'm curious if the Milwaukee would do any better fitted with a Stihl brand full chisel chain. Great video.
To come that close with a 50cc gas saw is amazing. The Milwaukee is more equivalent to a 35 cc saw. The bigger thicker kerf of the Stihl makes them roughly equivalent.
I bought the milwaukee for occasional yard cleanup since we have lots of trees with broken limbs falling all the time. I would never expect it to be better than a gas chainsaw. However I would never buy a gas chainsaw because every time I went to use it when it was sitting for a while I wouldn't rely on it starting right up like the Milwaukee will. So for occasional use the milwaukee is the better hassle free option.
One big difference is the father knows what he is doing. It is evident with the way he cuts. What would have been fair is to switch operators and their saws
I’m sure the gas is still better , but I would really like to see you do a comparison after replacing that junk homeowner.043 bar and safety chain with an Identical or similar bar and chain to what the Stihl has. We may just have a chance then. An Oregon 3/8” LP .050 bar & 91VXL chain or similar would be a good place to start at a cost of about $50 total. A must for any small saw I buy, and in my opinion much safer if you have any chainsaw experience at all.
That made me laugh....good competition between father and son....nice to see your father in hear....he`s still very competitive and you also Gilbert....sory that the electric chainsaw failed but I`m sure it would come out on top when the gas chainsaw does not start....very good competition.....CHEERS
the 026 is and was a bad ass saw...it had the best power to weight ratio in its day. Might be weird to have a favorite saw but that was mine. I have the Milwaukee now and am very impressed with it.
I love to see this. Its like me and my dad going at it and at the end of the day my dad would say " You spend too much money on toys son" Lol. How I miss my old man.
I love Milwaukee tools. They make the greatest battery tools and the quality is there. Sthil, they make wonderful chainsaws that make plenty power and was able to withstand the test of time; I think that the time test would be a challenge for Milwaukee battery tools,,, however, those battery tools are very very very convenient as it allows you to go cordless, less maintenance, reduced sound levels, and ultimately, I gets the job done.
Still impressive for a battery and not sure it was fair plus no mixing fuel, you can keep it in your cab without stinking everything up and in just the convenience alone I think the Milwaukee wins and this come from a man who owns both a Gas Stihl and a Milwaukee electric.
You should include the time you had to wait for your dad to start that up because that is all part of the selling points of an electric chainsaw. That and not having to add gas. You would need several batteries to make it ideal. I have several Milwaukee products so I have 12 batteries. I run out of energy before I run out of batteries
According to Milwaukee the battery saw is the eqivalent to a 45 cc gas saw the Stihl 026 is 49 cc so it just a little more then the Milwaukee can handle. Great contest and great video, oh also your Dad has WAY better technique
Interesting review. The Milwaukee chainsaw needs an Oregon bar and chain to make it a fair fight. Also rock the saw back and forth like your dad does, try to let the saw work a little more than you are. You don’t want to put too much strain on the motor and chain. I think if you follow those tips the Milwaukee has got it in the bag. I’m going to be getting the top handle when it comes out next year. I’m very excited.
Milwaukee is good but it’s hard to beat tried tested & true internal combustion. It has interesting applications though. Like off grid camping/homesteading
the milwaukee is a nice unit for a homeowner or occasional user. From what i have seen wouldnt be good for a heavy user or even a homeowner that does a lot of firewood.What i see is if you go thru more than a gallon of gas in a 6-8 hour day with your gas saw then keep that. i saw a review where the gentleman had 3 fully charged batteries and within 1 hour all 3 were overheating but not dead yet.
The Milwaukee has a slower chain speed but great torque. Also look how convenient it was to use, no constant pull starting and still got the job done. Stihl are just kings in the chain saw game, I would expect nothing less from them.
Try it again, rather than wait for your dad start when you are ready.. the extra time to wait for him to put the saw on the ground, started and wound up, is all part of the benefit to electric. Use the benefit. Especially if you are going against a top end stihl saw.. try against one similarly priced. With factory chain.
Your dad, and it's very apparent, has way more experience in cutting than you do for sure so that's why he's quite quicker. But, it doesn't help that the chainsaw completely drowns out the quiet sound that little electric motor makes, thus leading to not knowing if you can push it harder to keep up, or maybe win, or if you're pushing it too hard which will, and proven in second cut, push it hard enough to get hung up lol
Good test! I looked at reviews for the electric saws by Milwaukee, Husky and Stihl. The Milwaukee came in dead last for 4 reasons: 1) It had a greater tendency to stall (as seen here) 2) The very narrow chain had a much greater tendency to slip out of the bar 3) The chain lube system tended to leak and also spray too much oil 4) The chain tensioning system was weak and more awkward than Stihl's tool-less means I own a bunch of Milwaukee battery powered tools. I had hoped to get a Milwaukee chainsaw so that they all could share batteries. But the reviews convinced me otherwise. Mil
You have a full chisel chain on the petrol and a less aggressive chain on the battery saw so it is expected really if the bars and chains were swap it maybe a different story
I love the fact that your dad is out there old school. Ha! He's just wearing shorts with Crocks on. No protective gear whatsoever. This is why us old timers appear to live so long. We took so many chances when we were kids, that we weeded out the weak. LOL
the stihl had a more aggressive chain. the milwaukee had a low profile chain. Plus the stihl engine is almost 10CC's bigger. when you take the differences into consideration, the milaukee did fantastic.
I think the Milwaukee chainsaw is a awesome Tool to have around the house but it as far as cost efficient it’s really not. It would be good for limbs and cleaning up. but if you want a saw for either emergency’s like if you live in a area that frequently has storms get a real one. One thing I’ve noticed people never talk about is the battery’s. A M18 12.0 alone is almost a brand new quality saw in the same class and it will outlast the tool and battery. They do go bad the tool and battery are two separate cost. If you want a reliable gas saw just maintain them google what the manufacturer requires. And every now and then fire them up with clean fuel. Can’t leave fuel in the tank for 5 months and expect it to run perfectly. Take the carb off every now and then and spray it out worst comes to worst just buy a new one they are cheaper than people realize.
Sooooo.... you're saying that the Stihl wins by one to three seconds? Ok. OH! WAIT! Now add in how many seconds to keep putting that thing on the ground to pull the cord to get it started. OH! WAIT! Now add in how many minutes spent at the gas station to fill up a gas can. OH! WAIT! Now add in how many minutes to mix up some oil/gas and fill up the Stihl. OH! WAIT! Now add in how many hours to clean/rebuild carburetor, spark plugs every season or other.
OH WAIT! when you have to change batteries on the electric OH WAIT! When you run your spare batteries out and have to wait for them to charge OH WAIT! When most maintained saws idle well and start first pull I’ve had mine 3 years and I’ll I’ve changed is spark plug as much wood as I cut it wouldn’t take long to kill those batteries
@@joeybrewer6564 - "......most maintained saws idle well and start first pull" he says. ahhhhh hahahahah. Define "well maintained", and how much time and/or money does it cost to do so? There are A LOT of people who KNOW that wrestling with maintaining a gas saw, and having it always start first pull, (or even 2nd, 3rd or 4th) is *not* their experience. And what about those who do trimming while up in a tree? It's a whoooole lot easier to just squeeze the trigger on an electric and it's on, than yank and pull on a gas. Bottom line: There *are* some advantages to an electric, ESPECIALLY for the occasional user who may not touch the saw for an entire season, or 2. (And yes, you can have 2 batteries for an electric. One is always charging while the other is in use). * No going to the gas station. * No gas smell in the car from that trip to the gas station. * No breathing fumes while you're using the saw. * If you only had a few cuts to make, you don't have to empty out the gas after you're done since the saw will be stored for awhile. But, at the end of the day, it merely comes down to preference.
I agree 100 for in tree trimming I was talking for some who who uses them very frequently like myself I use my saw almost everyday some days 6-8 hours cutting all day (I sell firewood) but in the end it’s just what you like
Cant believe how many still prefer battery after this test. As pro landscaper i can say no battery tools from any brand came close to gas powered tools.
There are a lot of gas saws that may not have done as well. We also do not know how well the chains were sharpened which makes a big difference. For a just a few second difference is speed I would much rather use the electric since it is quieter, less smelly, does not require any maintenance other than the chain, and costs less to operate. The electric will most likely last longer and keep its performance over the life of the tool, where a gas engine develops gradual loss of compression etc. The more you use the saw, the more money you will save over gas. It would be very easy to make another electric that has more power and more torque. Also he had to spend more time starting up gas saw when you could have been cutting already. With spare batteries you can also swap out battery faster than time it would take to mix oil and gas or pour mixed gas into tank. Also in situations where you have to tilt the saw, the gas may loose draw on the fuel in the tank when the tank level drops which the electric does not have an issue with. Don't forget replacing spark plugs and air filters on the gas as well. Or storing gas over time and it goes bad and then fouls up fuel lines or carb. Carb has to be rebuilt or cleaned.
lo que hace la tecnica correcta el , de rojo no uso los dientes metalicos que ayudan a balanciar la motosierra y hacer el corte mas rapido. como lo hace el señor de blanco
Electric saws are very lightweight in comparison, but you can't beat a gas saw. Gas saw will run circles around that electric saw. This is why loggers and tree service use gas saws and always will. Electric saws are ok to limb/prune with and to cut smaller stuff. Leave the bigger stuff to a real saw.
I'm not so sure they "always will". Battery powered tool technology has been catching up at a surprising rate in the past few years. 15 years ago I swore I'd never own another battery powered tool, after having a crappy drill that would slowly drill a couple of holes before needing a recharge. Now I own a fleet of battery powered tools, to include some demanding items like an angle grinder. It wasn't too long ago that I had people telling me how professional mechanics would never use a battery powered impact wrench... my Milwaukee impact runs circles around my air powered (pro-grade) tools today, and you can see battery powered impacts in garages all over the country. My Sawzall (battery) keeps up with my dad's Sawzall (electric). Given another 10-15 years of development and advancement, and gas powered chain saws may be trying to keep up with the battery versions the pros are carrying! It may sound far-fetched today, but what we have today was far-fetched 10-15 years ago, too.
Battery powered tools have come a long way, but I doubt you can use one in the woods all day every day year after year and keep up with 70+ cc pro saws. For the homeowner or someone that cuts a little firewood it's ok, even though a good gas saw will be cheaper in the long run. Definitely need (battery powered) for professional use. You'll burn up several battery powered saws and many batteries trying to keep up with one pro saw for several years. Just would cost entirely too much and not be nearly as effective and efficient.
@@brandonhamilton3416 For the time being I'll 100% agree with you in terms of a battery powered chainsaw not being able to keep up with a professional gas-operated saw. But, when we see what the last 10-15 years of development have done for battery powered technology, I wouldn't be surprised if that whole dynamic changes in another 10-15 years. Again, this is the exact same conversation we were all having about 10-15 years ago about how battery powered impact wrenches would never keep up with air tools... now they run circles around most air tools. The future could be exciting for development on this kind of stuff.
I'd say the time you save with electric (not having to deal with mixing the 2-stroke fuel), starting, noise, etc, makes it about equivalent - if we take out any advantage dads' technique helped. Though the Stihl's are very reliable engines.
Finally a real world review with a real chainsaw and a sharp chain. Well done! I've seen so many demos where they put this saw up against a crappy homeowners saw with a dull chain. I think all the pros outweigh a little less speed. I always have my carbs gum up and then I'm always looking for 2 stroke oil to mix and then the gas is bad, blah, blah blah. This looks so much better. Another positive i notice is that my friends clutch on his saw is messed up so when it idles the chain spins, so dangerous! You will never have that problem with this saw.
I really like my Milwaukee chainsaw. I have a 60cc Jonsered and use it to cut my firewood. I do over 20 chords per year. But for small chores, the electric chainsaw is really nice to have.
You guys should of swapped saws yet. Great Video but the older guy did alot more back and fourth while cutting and that makes it go faster. All in all both work greàt
Before "going to press", maybe it'd be a good idea to research EXACTLY which chain each saw is running., and have each expertly filed by the same filer. FYI a .043 (inch gauge) chain would likely be a 3/8" pitch LP (low profile) NK (narrow kerf) chain. Facts do matter. And BTW Makita has some really nice battery saws now.
I have used both battery and gas. The price point of a gas Stihl or Echo is lower than the electric. After almost 40 years of experience cutting, the best dollar value is the gas saw. The ridiculous price of an extra battery will buy years of fuel for a gas chainsaw. And I know that if treat it right, a well made gas saw will give 20 plus years of service. Electric technology will change and I doubt if you will even be able to buy batteries for it in 10 years. The electric wins for the cottage owner cutting a few trees each year but not if you need 5 chords of wood annually. Great video watching father and son enjoy themselves!
This shootout should have started with the saws on the ground then say go!...While dad is fooling around starting his the son would be 1/2 way thru his log...LOL!
STIHL O26 has a higher chain speed compared to the Milwaukee . Stihl saw has more aggressive chain, no comparason. I have owned a Stihl O24 since 1986, same series of the O26. They have Magnesium cases & side cover, vs. Todays all plastic. For what its worth the electric was designed for the homeowner and probally along with other tools like edgers, lawn mowers, hedge trimmers, etc. The Stihl as good as it is was a great mid size saw used for smaller stuff.
