Minecraft 1.21 Snapshot 24W21A | Data Driven Jukeboxes & New Gamerule 

huge brain idea honestly.

mayber oiled up would be better xdd

this needs to be in the game! amazing idea :)

@@aspidinton what 💀

wind charges would be cool too

/gamerule allowQuasiConnectivityToTriggerTNTSoICanDuplicateItAndAutomateAMinePleaseAndThanks true

I like having a gamerule, but IMO this particular one should have been on by default. At least in new worlds created in 1.21+.

hah, you can also tell that mojang employees watch hermitcraft. The item-portal bug is something etho and tango butted into when making the mail system.

​@@KBRolleryeah quasi connected TNT would be horrible for every other player XD

Yeah its one of the most overlooked things when people are talking about an update

I think that's a specific enough case that note blocks/music disks/custom sounds are a good enough solution.

From what I know of the sound engine, volume drop off is linear for everything. I'm assuming exponential drop off would require special code for this specific case.

Exponential sound drop off is used on Bedrock and it's really bad. It sounds like a fine idea, but the result is that sounds are uncomfortably loud up close and then a relatively similar volume at any other distance until the attenuation distance chops off volume altogether.

Although on the bug tracker, it was really more a quirk of how it worked internally; Basically the song length was hard-coded for each song, and when you used mods/datapacks to change the _actual_ music played the song in the NBT data was still the vanilla one. By making it data-driven, it is no longer hard-coded. This means custom songs can be added into the game "properly", complete with length metadata.

There was some debate on how to handle the custom music on servers, given that data packs only changed the song for the players using it. The server still needs to know exactly when the jukebox is actually playing or not for everything else, so the duration couldn't be changed.

​@@asj3419servers can have data packs

It's cool and all, but as most people aren't so technically inclined in minecraft it's a bit sad to be honest. From a game design standpoint there's a lot of baffling decisions mojang have taken. There's been attempts to improve this, but the closest I can think of is stuff like advancements and the crafting book which... honestly should've always been in the game. They keep polishing the game but they somehow don't do it in the right ways to impact the core survival experience anymore. For example there's no reason to explore anymore; you can find diamonds really easily, and dungeon loot is never as good as something you can make, and you can never do anything with it, so what's the point? You can kill the ender dragon and reach sky island cities and your reward for 98% of chests is... level 10 enchantment iron or maybe diamond gear? Really? So you get your elytra and leave. Say you like building, and they added a new biome. You go out, within a thousand blocks you probably find it, otherwise you explore a bit more... Then you find it, take the sapling back home, and boom, you've got anything you could want from the biome. Do that one or two more times for each wood or maybe terracotta, and you've done all the exploring you had to do. Do the new structures added in trails and tales even exist btw? Played the game for a 100+ hours since then, never seen them. Been in every biome old and new, made so much stuff like I always do, WHERE are these biomes? I am actively looking for them and can't find them- imagine not knowing they exist and being a new player! Not to even get into the ancient city and Warden. What an incredible piece of game design; your reward for screwing around and exploring is nearly 100% guaranteed to be death, because there's no way to avoid the warden spawning if you don't know about wool blocking sound, and once he spawns you're effectively guaranteed to die regardless of your equipment (which is probably good, and you'll lose it since it disappears after a while-- why doesn't this game have a death point or grave system again? Every. Single. Modpack agrees that it's good to have, and personally it makes death feel less punishing. And death is WAY too punishing in this game, given that it's a game about screwing around and finding out.)

Yeah, it's a shame most of the data stuff I won't ever really touch, but I can't wait to see what maps are made. Doing these also likely makes it easier for them to add stuff officially in the future.

It happened with copper blocks too. Builders really loved the copper block but the majority, not so much

This update has a bit of everything for everyone it’s amazing. New copper blocks and tuff blocks for builders, trial chambers for survival explorers, wind charges and the mace for pvp, and a ton of technical features and changes for the technical community to play with. The way things are going I think this might be my favorite update in a while.

@@raphaelkap At this point its off-topic and you're literally just complaining about nitpicks. The Trial Chambers entire purpose is to make exploration more rewarding, because the Mace (which can one-shot even the most powerful bosses in the game) can only be obtained via the Trial Chambers. Armor Trims are also there to incentivize exploration, as you can only get them from their designated structures (its not the best reward, as its only cosmetic, but still). Being able to take saplings or farmable items home is actually a POSITIVE design choice, not a negative... Forcing the player to go out exploring again just to get more once they run out is not a good design philosophy. Trail Ruins generate in jungles, birch forests, and taiga biomes, and they generate buried underground. They're easy to miss and if you're struggling to figure out where they generate that's on you. If you're playing Minecraft regularly and are able to even make this youtube comment in the first place, you already have access to the internet and can easily look up what biomes they generate in. And its kind of hypocritical to complain about them being hard to find, when you were literally just complaining that there's no motive to explore (Trail Ruins being hard to find means you'll spend more time exploring in order to find them). Though I do agree that some biomes can be really annoying to find without third-party tools... They need some sort of biome compass or something. Going to the Deep Dark is not 100% guaranteed death if you just know how the game works... They have an advancement that teaches you to sneak to avoid sculk sensors, ancient cities have wool hallways to hint at how wool blocks vibrations, and the Warden is extremely easy to escape if you just book it and sprint jump away as soon as it appears. The Warden is supposed to be avoided, that's the point. At this point you're just complaining that the game is hard. Lastly, the Ancient City is how you get the Recovery Compass that can lead you back to your lost items. The timer for item despawning does not go down when the chunks are unloaded, so you don't need to worry about losing your items if you died far from spawn. And even if you do lose your items, does that not also give more value to those "useless" enchanted tools you find in End Cities? They make good backup tools, and can potentially have max level enchantments, which is pretty good imo (Besides, the armor and tools is not even the main reward for the End Cities, that's the Elytra and Shulker Shells. The loot chests are just a bonus). Yes, the game isn't perfect, but if you actually know what you're doing the game is not that hard.

I didn't like that sound but I did like the idea of them changing the sound. I wish they'd kept trying

Fishton*

Honestly, It wasn’t that bad. Someone needs to cook a resource pack with that new/removed sound🗣️🗣️!!

@@Mhilkos It was terrible. Did you never hear a piston door with a dozen or so of them going off in quick succession?

I liked the sound but not as a replacement

Personally, I think they should've done it the other way around. Similar to when entity cramming was introduced, they added a gamerule that could be disabled.

@@TheMattSturgeon Hmmm, it's always that debate or whether the new things should be the default or not. I feel like in this case, making it the default, would break too many things for people who didn't think to disable the gamerule before joining their newly upgraded world.

​@@WindeycastleI've got a solution: make it so that when the world loads, it checks if the save doesn't contain some gamerule, and then it adds the gamerule in a state that preserves the way the world worked before. Then for any new world the gamerule default value is the changed one. This is how it could've been done to not break any entity cramming things. The thing is, "it's gonna break so many things" is a horrible way of thinking a lot of the times I've seen it in discussions, because the things it's gonna break are extremely niche, while it fixes the game for a huge number of other players. In this case, if the rule were on by default, so many new players, who don't even know what gamerules are, will avoid frustration trying to ride a boat or minecart or, most likely, a horse thru a portal, only to discover the game seems to not work in that case. Especially bad with trying to ride a horse into the end portal.

@@arcturuslight_ That would be a solution. That's detecting if a world was upgraded, if yes, keep old behaviour, else use new. And yes, "it's gonna break so many things" is often a topic. Because it is important. The problem with breaking things, is not the technical people who will be upset, but the people who built from a tutorial they don't understand, and have no clue on what to do. They have to be considered. It's always a fine line...

I've always though they should add a world upgrade interface where you'd be able to create a backup and get to decide how you want to set the new game rules added since the version the world is in, even if you have commands disabled for that world. Would be perfect for things like this or the change to spawn chunks.

Wool only blocks sculk vibrations, not sounds. There was briefly a period where they blocked note block sounds but it got reverted back to the old behavior (all blocks)

I think that it would be a good utility to add to wool that it blocks all sounds

nah​@@Ekipsogel, most of the redstone community uses wool to separate redstone lines

Smort

@@YTInnerAgntAuto that could be replaced by terracotta/concrete. I know it’s harder to get, but if you are doing something large enough to need a lot of it, you are probably in creative or late game.

Yep. I'm hyped that we now have custom components on recipe outputs; I'm patiently waiting for that support on recipe input ingredients, too, so that our custom items can be used to make other custom items in turn.

​@@KBRoller for real, I wish they will eventually also let food component to take priority over default right click functionalities, right now items with default right clicks (excluding food) can't be converted into food, even things that don't always have a right click, like horse armor.

Now if only they introduced some special tool or a program to make datapacks in, making the process easier and way more intuitive.

Does making features data driven also simplify the process of adding features to the game later on easier? As I imagine taking these areas of the game and making them data driven also helps with internal workings of the game, beyond just more community customization.

​@@outcast4087 It's been mentioned a couple of times over the last few years by Devs speaking unofficially that they had done / are doing a lot of development for inhouse tools to speed up the games development. With them clearly migrating more and more stuff to be data driven, the best case scenario is they release some of those tools to the public.

They always have

​@@KidPrarchord95 *copper bulb has entered the chat

@@KidPrarchord95 they always have to some extent but as of late it feels like they’ve began listening more than usual, might just be me though

@@Froggsroxx they do listen, but they dont only in specific situations.

Same

Are you by chance Determancer? I played on a private server a while back that used a datapack by Determancer like you are describing.

@@Minty_Meeo No

Season 9 hermitcraft port to bedrock already proved that

That's not a very unique idea

i think the solution here is for mojang to add a built in texture pack called "enchanced sounds" that will contain any new sounds in this update.

Yeah, the number of times I've added that tag myself...

@@KBRoller bro saaammmmeeee

they didn't really fix it, they just sidestepped it in a way where it'll never really come up again

@@bungusbajablast2877 If new changes obsolete old bugs through irrelevancy I'm not complaining. 😎

Yea

I’m also against items generating new portals since it’s very easy for one to accidentally fall through

And minecarts for transporting mobs.

It feels like that it has. Given how large and ongoing Hermitcraft has been going, I honestly like they've been looking at hermits.