Minecraft And Roblox Crossplay Is Already In Danger. 

the pixel grows discord server: discord.gg/P74cVatknc Shout out to The Crossplay Project and Mineplay for talking to me after my video I made on them. They are both amazing projects, hopefully they'll be okay. Also another correction: Mineplay does allow for bedrock players as the proxy (bungeecord/velocity) which is used as a middleman for connecting to Minestom, does allow for Geyser players.

The points you make are fair, but from what I can tell, the roblox crossplay projects don't use any of Mojang's code or assets. It is not against the EULA to make a block game, only to redistribute their game.

What we really need is cross play between Java and legacy console editions like Wii U, PS3, or Vita.

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Here is the key thing. Minecraft's code and assets are copyrighted. If your project uses Minecraft's code and assets, then you need to obtain said assets and code dynamically. (See spigot, fabric, and neoforge) If your project simply reimplents Minecraft's server api, then legally, there isn't much mojang can do. You can't copyright an api. In theory, they can take issue with allowing unlicensed players to play Minecraft via a plugin....even then it gets sketchy, and past president set by mojang would work against mojang.

A bit of a disclaimer as I only have knowledge of Roblox Luau, and I know nothing about administration or programming on a Minecraft server. So anything I say technical about Minecraft is just theory. 5:30 Despite the documented & undocumented rate-limits using HTTP send-requests on Roblox, it's still very much possible to host an extremely large Minecraft server. In regards to utilizing external API, Roblox can handle up to 500 send-requests per minute **for each live Roblox server** regardless of data size as long as it's not too unreasonable (though transfer speeds may be affected). Upon the limit being reached, all send-request functions will stall for roughly 30 seconds. 5:35 We can just do data transfers of only necessary things like initial data or reporting changes, we don't need to send the entire Minecraft world every time lol. Even if a lot of blocks & player instances were to be loaded, Roblox servers can still run smoothly with low latency even with hundreds of players as well as hundreds of thousands of instances. Though the huge disclaimer is that **you actually need to know how to optimize them**. This can be done via content streaming, having visuals loaded purely on a Roblox's client, code optimization, basepart optimization, having players loaded from the Minecraft server just be pseudo-player models with minimal data, etc. The Roblox server only really has to load in chunks that surround the current players. Knowing this, we can assign 4 sends & 4 requests per second for every Roblox server, averaging 480 send-requests a minute (20 to spare as a safety net or could be used on something else). Each send will report only on necessary changes such as block states (place/destroy), player actions, and player states. We can also include parameters of what the Roblox server will receive the next time it does a HTTP request. Such as the Roblox serverId, what chunks are currently loaded (for the MC server to send only changes), and chunks that need to be loaded (for the MC server to send the full chunk). The MC server will record and apply the every received change from every Roblox server. (idk about ANY of the MC server technical details, but if it could then it would) Back on the Roblox server, each request will alert the MC server to send back only the necessary data it requested from its most recent HTTP send. Note: Players from other Roblox servers & the MC server will be treated as a part of chunk data, so there won't be hundreds of random player models in unloaded chunks of a Roblox server. But you may notice the issue is that certain things will seem clunky such as movement by cross-server players. But they could be fixed with a little bit of visual interpolation, prediction, and general experimentation until it feels and behaves right. Roblox servers can actually have a player limit of up to 200, and up to 700 on experimental games. And the method I've described above will work regardless of the number of players, but I feel 10-30 players to be a good fit for overall send-request quantity and Roblox server performance. Even if I actually had technical MC knowledge, that's probably how I would go about it with a few minor changes.

If you have the attention span of a normal human being, go to the settings and change the playback speed to 0.5 Christ, man

I thought of similar problems after I watched the first video; what I think could especially put a figurative target on the projects' backs is that if they make the technology they create usable by general people (if they make it that far), then someone could potentially make a Pay2Win server that doesn't actually have any "Minecraft" players on it, but that instead acts as a roundabout way of playing a free version of the game for Roblox players; such a server could charge Robux for doing basic tasks, like going through Portals, crafting Netherite, switching servers, etc..

i like how your videos are x2 friendly really helps getting informed fast

Video is very well research, thanks for the info.

I feel like as long as they don't recreate Minecraft in Roblox, they will be fine. For example, if they make a simulatr game on Roblox and allow Minecraft users to play it as well with syncing then I feel like that won't get them in trouble

its already dead anyways, i went in there for a few hours, its literally just grief haven. We managed to make (probably) the largest and most successful spawn, but moderation is so bad to the point where the only reason hackers ever stop is because they get bored

It may be smart for microsoft to offer up a method to verify if a user owns a legitimate copy of minecraft for these crossplay projects, otherwise they are killing off a good branch of the community

if Minecraft and Roblox Crossplay got taken down. id left both of the game and just play Warzone

My server sharded.

Well when you are essentially creating free minecraft microsoft is going to end that shit quickly

4 views in 9 minutes? Dude fell off Seriously though, you're an underrated gem

bruh, there are offline, pirate minecraft servers that are still up, and mojang themselves ban and unbans said pirate servers =-= if they don't allow this crossplay project, why should they allow all of these pirate server to exist?

what about terraria minecraft roblox portal 2 and grandscapes crossplay?

crossplay isnt going to be taken down by mojang however roblox could take it down because it communicates with unofficial servers (non roblox affiliated)

Eagler craft distributed minecraft copies, project crossplay just connects 2 games, they made original assets so theres no possible way to dmca that as there's no right infringement and its just a little cool project that cannot do any possible harm to microsoft's pocket

What use would cross play between a single game on a free to install platform and a server on a pay to install game even have?

the video game multiverse is beginning...

brick bronze is back up and now you have to do a bunch of stuff to get in i hate the people who split off to make a new brick bronze

3:16 rip brick bronze. It was fun while it lasted 🫡

Since Roblox is still partially hoping for people to push the engine, they most likely won't mind it a whole lot until it's a full port of the game itself.

1:39 bro was gasping for air

I would like to mention that sometimes I don't turn a video to 2x because I have a short attention span but it's more that I feel like it's a pretty low stakes video that will have a bunch of extraneous information I don't care about at all. Like, some random youtuber will post a 30 minute video essay on why the chicken from minecraft can't look up because of a weird bug and the information that is actually new or interesting takes 60 seconds max to convey.

Not surprised they actually do this thing, but both Microsoft and Roblox will just take them down, but it's honestly cool it can interact with each other, From what i know is that Minecraft is either C# or Java, and Roblox is probably somewhere C++ and Lua.

brick bronze isnt taken down it has many discord servers and the game keeps getting reuploaded they save data between games so you can play lemme know if someone wants the discord server

0:31 Woah

the fact that works makes my brain hurts

I just had a thought that you might be able to use roblox for free game servers for your own non roblox games.

I got called out at the beginning of the video, I already had it at 2x speed Lol

I feel like this could be fixed using robux like having to pay robux in oreder to be able to play and since it'll probably be cheaper its cool cause its on a cross play server and not the whole of minecraft.

good video 👍

i'd like to see them make a fully funtional minecraft that can run hypixel, so that i dont have to spend 30 bucks for it

it was crossplay project, then mine (block game crossplay), then mineplay

I don't know why, but you just saying that if you have a short attention span to turn the video to 2x speed fixes any breaks in my attention span and makes me able to watch the whole video on 1x speed.

Block game crossplay can also have both Java and Bedrock players

They won’t care enough

"Server sharting"

Mineplex Tier drama??? uh what does that mean

I played Mineplay and I built something :O

Mojang employee 😂😂

never actually sued anyone

crazy how roblox is more lenient than minecraft

Why are you always live?

What’s a mineplay?

What is the IP of the server?

W thumbnail bruh

gysermc is funded by cubecraft

I thought it said cosplays

oh no

So just make the crossplay Roblox side coat rubux to join, give that back to mojang 🧠

why dont you SLOW DOWN

sadly it wont work rn

i had to put that shi on 0.75

Ok

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353 views in 6 hours bro fell off 😢😢😢😢

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Crosscraft 2

Mojang can't do proper Bedrock and Java crossplay, yet has the audacity to legally threaten someone who has done it better than them. Mojang is a complete joke, I had so much respect for that company, now they are becoming second Nintendo. Fun not allowed, moto of every game corporation.

ayyyyyy

As somone who love minecraft but hate robox i dont care

Bruh