In this video I am building a gaming PC on a new Intel Core i9 14900k cpu in order to test it in the game Minecraft for Windows or Bedrock and in Minecraft java.
@@blakefantasy2600 The 14900k is still more powerful and has additional features. The difference in price is small as well, so don't see the problem here. No sense in getting the 13900k for a new build anymore unless you're just broke.
It's called DIstant Horizon, recently, they made a big update that increased visual a lot without demanding much ressources. There's also the mod Nvdium wich work only with 1600 series + of NVDIA graphics cards wich allow an enormous render distance without using a lot of RAM. For what i've heard, they use a meshing technology .
nvidium works with 900 series + i thought? The mod worked on my 1660 and on my friends 1080 so they mightve updated it since you last checked it out @@Jakala2257
There are even more fps boosting mods, so you can really get alot of fps while having alot of chunks loaded. Nvidium is a crazy good mod for NVIDIA graphics cards and you can get other mods such as sodium extra, reese's sodium options, ferritecore, lithium,phosphor,etc.
i love how you know exactly what you're doing, and simplify the explanations for people who dont, but still keep enough info in so that it stays interesting for more experienced people, great video!
No real reason to, minecraft only runs off one core. so that pc is a waste on just minecraft. A real test would be using Folia to run a multithreaded server and see what you can throw that. Thats a real minecraft test with that cpu
0:20 Didnt watch whole video, but if motherboard doesn't freak out about it - nothing critical will happen. Each of those pins is rated fot 125w@12v, so four pairs of them will easily supply up to 600w if you need it. (For those who didn't understand why not 1200 - there are four 12v and four grounds in there)
Considering the prices of cases the 216, while not quite a budget case, is about standard in price. There are 2-300$ cases out there after all, so about 90$ for a good quality case that comes with good fans is pretty decent.
Disable the E Cores and Hyperthreading, change the overclock again, then enable resizable bar and use MSI Afterburner (works on all GPUs) to overclock and under volt the graphics card. It will help.
Seeing the RAM be a bottleneck is vere interesting. I wonder if a sapphire rappids Xeon with 8 memory channels would perform better. You could get the w7 3455x with 24 P cores and overclock it. Then get 8×16 or 8x32 gb 6800 MHz memory.
For my 13900k and 14900k I have done the following: MCE off, PL1 and PL2 limit to 225, limit P-core boost to 5.5 GHz and E-core boost to 4.3GHz, and use balanced power profile in Windows (although I do disable core parking to keep system highly responsive). Oh and just XMP on the RAM. I didn’t change LLC value. I have set voltage offset at a modest -0.010v. I have disabled the C6&C7 C states and EIST. Lastly I have locked AVX at 0 offset. I have tested on P95, CB R23 and CB R15. All great and in a mid 20 degree room, no workload exceeds 80c on package or cores just using an NH-D15 with an airflow case. Very happy and benchmarks are very close to where they were before taming these beasts.
i mean.. not really, the problem is that the cpu most of the time is only waiting for the ram and only using one thread for the rendering which doesnt really takes advantage of the capacity of high end pcs, mods like sodium or nvidium improves the chunk rendering by a huge amount but they still cant really pass these limitations for really using high end pcs in all his potential
what aio would u recommend for 14900k ? not that znxt cuz its like almost 400 dollars in my country, something a bit cheaper, imma use 6 fans on the radiator, preferably white
Is there a reason why you were running 1.17.1 instead of 1.20.1? All of the mods you used should still be available for that version and Sodium 0.5 should perform much much better than 0.3.4. On 1.20 there is also an addon mod for Sodium called Nvidium which makes use of mesh shaders to provide ridiculously high framerate at massive render distances. Like seriously, I can get 200+ fps on 128 render distance with an i5-6600k and a 1660TI (which is basically the minimum you need to run Nvidium since mesh shaders only run on 16+ series NVIDIA GPUs.) There are also some mods that help a lot with memory usage like FerriteCore and Modernfix so if you were to make another video like this I'd highly recommend you add them as well in addition to the ones you already have
@@emmettpetty139 It's a feature of Nvidium, you can set it to keep chunks that you've loaded in render distance. You can also use the bobby mod as well like in the video which works very well too and will automatically load the chunks every time you log in rather than having to go back to them every session like with Nvidium
Ok thank you, I've been using those two mods for a while and nvidium is probably the best performance mod ever. It even optimizes the rendering so much that at 32 chunks of render distance I get more than 1000 fps while sitting still. Bobby has been giving me some issues but I think it's just a compatibility issue with nvidium. What I really want though is a mod that allows you to set the actual render distance higher than 32 on sodium, like how optifine let's you go up to 48. If you've got any info on that I'd appreciate it 🤗
@@calvin1280 I'm not familiar with "Infinite Horizons" but the Distant Horizons mod works on buildings as well, not just LoD based on the world seed (it works on servers too where you don't even have access to the world seed). I get that it's "cheating" but almost every videogame has this feature built in.
There is a mod in java that Allow you to do 2048 chunks its called Distant horizons Or if you want to push it there is a mod only for 1.12.2. That allow you to do any number of chunks you want its called Far 2 plane mod
Java got a new mod recently called nvidium its purpose is to give great performance above 100+ chunks since the sodium rendering mod is only really made for 32 chunks
I wish I can also afford budget PCs like this. But man it's funny how that PC can probably handle any modern day game you throw at it at max graphic settings and it will still struggle to play minecraft at max settings.
It's because of unoptimized code and the unreliability on Java (aka the programming language used to code the original minecraft) because it is REALLY slow compared to C++ (aka an programming language also used to code minecraft, but for mobile and Win10) which is significantly faster. Lua is faster then C++, but it isn't used much since It's table array starts with 1 instead of 0.
@@akr4s1a I'm not a native English speaker to me 80% of native English speakers sound similar, and the ones with according other native English speakers best voices, sounds like IA's or have quite perfect and controller voices, like an IA. It's hard to explain, it's like when Asians says that we all look similar, and we think they look quite similar, is close but in language, or to the ear
@@ruminantdastellar7740 Being ESL I can see how the structure of the sentences aren't a giveaway and the surface fluency of the accent could convincing. To me there are several dead giveaways. One the sentences are not composed as I'd expect a native speaker or an ESL speaker to use. So likely either an AI script or more likely tbh an AI translated script. Two the accent sounds fine but the intonation and pauses have a weird character to them, like phrases bleeding into each other where I would expect a rest or a non-perfect pronunciation of a brand name in a novel way. Three, from context clues I think it's pretty easy to pick up they're Ukrainian. My guess would be a Ukrainian ESL who translates parts of their script and gets an AI voice to read them out for whatever reason, either not being confident in their speaking, the unfortunate knowledge that an accent would mean less views etc.
@@Gaymer1338 ну раз ты не знаешь, то зачем пишеш, вариант с деокупацией меня абсолютно убил, такой херни я ещё не слышал. Ты думаешь, что прифронтовые города и села целые или как ты это себе представляешь ? Там тебе НЕ БАМБАС 8 лет дамбили. И как было сказано в одно из видео, если я правильно понял, то основу он забросил потому, что там не было монетизации и сделал "ШО С ПК?", теперь основа получает монетизацию. Ну, а за англоязычный канал всё и так логично и понятно
Besides Minecraft, another relatively easy benchmark is Black MIDI. It seems simple on the surface, but its actually more complicated than you think. So, let me take you through it. Black MIDI is a form of benchmarking PCs where one installs an app called Piano from Above and downloads MIDI files with upwards of 250 million notes! What is considered a Black MIDI will usually have forms like note blocks, where multiple notes next to each other are played, usually more than 5 at a time and in succesion and note arts, arts made out of notes. (Seems simple enough right? Well, WRONG!) First, you need to find out how many notes your RAM can load. It also depends on your Windows version. For example, if you have a Windows 7 PC with 16GB RAM, you will be able to load MIDIs up to 56 million notes. But, there's a catch. You may think that if you can load 56 million notes on Windows 7 with 16GB RAM, you can load that many on any Windows version (that supports PFA of course, WinXP to the present day). Well, you are wrong. On Windows 8 through 11 with the same exact PC, you can only load up to 50 million notes. Why is this? Well, the answer is bloat. Windows 7 has no bloat while the other windows versions do. So you need to find out how many notes your PC can handle. I'll do the work for you. With 64GB RAM and Windows 10/11, you can load up to 200 million notes. Before the list, we also need to discuss pagefile. Pagefile is like extra memory that you take out of your SSD and use as RAM in case your normal RAM fills up. This can allow you to load the maximum amount of notes if you set up for example 32GB. This now gives you 96GB total. PFA can only handle MIDIs up to 2GB in file size. Now, for the list. Tau - 6.28M Kazan Challenge - 6.6M The Antichlorobenzene - 8.1M HRK's Lag Tester 4 - 9.18M HRK's Lag Tester 5 - 12.07M Tau 2 - 12.56M Septette for the Dead Princess (1) - 14.65M Night of Fire - 16.??M 9KX2 - 18M Two Faced Lovers (1) - 19.4M Heart and Soul - 19.4M The Antichlorobenzene (2) - 26.6M Septette for the Dead Princess (2) - 28.2M JERN's perpetual song - 36.4M (?) Broken World - 44.44M Septette for the Dead Princess (3) - 44.68M (NOTE: For this one, most videos say it it 44.7M but the actualy note count is 44.68M) Quadrianexium - 62.27M Two Faced Lovers (2) - 85M Septette for the Dead Princess (4) - 92.7M The Nuker 2 F1 - 142M Toilet Story 3 - 224M (PAGEFILE REQUIRED) Toilet Nuts 3 - 370M (PAGEFILE REQUIRED) The Nuker 3 F3 - 536M (PAGEFILE + COMPRESSION OF FILE REQUIRED) Compression of files on TN3F3 means that in order for the file to be loaded by PFA, the file has to be compressed to under 2GB. For more info, watch LucasMIDI's legit run of The Nuker 3 F3 on his Ryzen 5 5600X.
Somewhat glad to see that even the most powerful regular consumer CPU, with the same GPU as mine and double the RAM I have, still cannot run MC properly at higher render distance, even with Sodium. If you're doing another test like this in the future, I would suggest you do these 3 simple things: 1. Get the 4090 budget GPU 2.Include Nvidium to the list of mods 3. Get the Ryzen Threadripper PRO 7995X budget CPU And nice video dude. Definitely deserves the views.
I've been a PC enthusiast/builder since 1999, love building my rigs, love spending my hard earned money on hardware. My first PC was and old 486 family PC (way late in 1997), and my first real build was a Pentium II 350mhz. After 17 straight years of Intel, from a Core 2 duo to a i9-9900k, I've decided in 2023 to try AMD again (didn't had one since Athlon 2000XP). I'm baffled how my 7800X3D consumes 50/60w on heavy demanding games, overclocked and undervolted , while producing better results than the 14900K on 97% of games. If your PC is focused on gaming there's no discussion here, 14900K is insanely power hungry for no return whatsoever on gaming (awesome on productivity though). I'm not saying the 14900K is a bad CPU, not at all, just completely inefficient for no return (again, on gaming). But lets be honest, even consuming those high watts the the difference on the electricity bill isn't that significant (in my country we're talking about a 70/80€ a year), but I couldn't convince myself to go with the 13900k at the time, and definitely not the 14900k. I hope that Intel manages to get their game straight and release something in the future that makes more sense, I'll have no trouble on changing again to team blue if things get better significantly. The only thing I dearly miss is overclocking on Intel, the hours messing with voltages and multipliers, running stability test and pushing the limits on the system without having a fans sounding like a vacuum cleaner (had a i7-3770k at 4.7Ghz and a i9-9900k all cores at 5.2Ghz). Overclocking on AMD is boring AF, unless you have a master's degree in computer science and actually know how to mess with the little knobs (or perhaps I'm just a dumb Intel guy that's not familiarized enough with the AMD BIOS stuff).
eh even for productivity the 7950X3d and 7950X are more efficient per workload, theres just no point. also Overclocking on both AMD and Intel is boring nowadays, they already do it from factory anyways.
im so happy to see one of my components in a super high end pc and it makes me really think i've made it in my computer building/fixing thingamajig hobby soon-to-be job
Its pretty good for the budget, but if you'd just go with a bit more power then it could be a great value ..this gpu for example is clearly too weak, even struggles with minecraft at high settings
