As a suggestion for EV racing videos, try a 60-0 regen only. See which one has the most aggressive regen mode available. It's a unique feature to the EV world. Just a thought...
The new regency paddles on the lyric are more aggressive than the ones on the model y with its new variable rate paddles so I’m guessing that the bolt mate use the same type of regents strategy since GM usually passes the tech from platform to platform🤔…….so yeah that’s a good one I’d like to see! 🙌🏽
Same with my '19 Volt which had more torque than any of these 3 (294 lb-ft). Loved racing V-8 Mustangs and Camaros at lights. Sure they passed me eventually, but only after I was 2-3 car lengths ahead.
We just bought a Bolt, and are astounded how much value it presents and how well it performs. The hardest part was simply getting over our preconceived notions of 1) a GM product and 2) It's a Chevy! Truth is, dollar-for-dollar, it fairly well kicks ass! Plus the Bolt is a nice drive. The quiet and motivation is a lot of fun.
The Bolt EV is the most traction-limited vehicle I've ever owned in terms of getting off the line. With stickier tires on, it's much better, but that's a lot of torque to shove through relatively skinny, up-in-the-front tires. :-)
Hyundai Kona electric too. It even spins the tires on a dry road if You punch it while already going 25mph. Off the line, it lights up the tires like crazy. Sounds like it’s about is probably the same as the Bolt.
I would like to see these compared on the Ike Gauntlet, see which is most efficient going up and then coming down using the highest regen setting and then overall efficiency on the Gauntlet. I’ve done a similar test with my Bolt and you would be surprised how much range you can regain coming down a long downgrade.
Cooper SE owner here. I was a lucky one who was able to get a base Signature trim while they were still available. I remember watching the videos when you guys first picked that one up. Love driving mine still even a year later!
I can understand measuring to the center of the wheel on a brake test, but to be "real world" you should measure to the edge of the bumper because that is what is going to hit the car in front of you. Some cars have more in front of the wheels, but that part matters!
That makes sense. That said, it probably works fine either way...so long as you measure from the same part of the car on both ends...and I don't know if they did that.
Great video! I really liked the mix of Roman and the young guys on this episode! The older gentlemen are seasoning the young guys with their experience!
Bolt EV might be the cheapest. But only if you buy it cash on hand. If you try to finance it right now, the interest rates will kill you, and you pay twice as much. It costs more than my 2022 F150. Here is Oregon. I went down and was looking for a Bolt EV. A couple of things I found out. 1. Dealers are adding marketing adjustments of $7,500. " Still seen a person buy one." 2. Some people like me would not get the tax credit. " Make sure you check before buying one." Also, each state has a different EV rebate. Make sure to check. Oregon is $2,500. 3. Stick with your budget. Don't be pressured to buy one. The dealer tried that, but I just wanted away from the deal.
No F150 Hybrid. What I mean by that I said is that the truck cost more the Bolt EV. It's the interest rate for vehicles right now, making it cost more. The truck is 1.9%, but the Bolt EV would be 7.9%. If you go term, you pay more. I know you can refinance when it goes down. But who knows when that will be. Here is a breakdown of what I was quoted on Bilt EV. Price: 29,745 Dealer Markup: 7,500 Total: 37,245 60 months was 753.41 per month. Which put it at 45,204 84 months was 578.65 per month. Which put it at 48,606 It's close to double the cost. Remember when dealerships do market adjustment, you pay interest on that too.
When it comes to practicality the Leaf featured in the video competes with Chevrolet Bolt EUV for its price and most importantly for adults in the back seat with decent length legs. At that point the price and range get surprisingly close. MINI has different versions including 5 doors ones but not in the electric world. What a pity the electric MINI is not practical with 3 doors and the range was designed to be OK only for Europe.
I got an used 2020 Bolt and honestly it's a thrill to drive, great for the city and (parallel parking is great with the 360 cameras) and takes less than $10 to fill up at the charging station
I'd be curious to see how times compare around a road course to find out how much of a disadvantage the extra weight is. Maybe throw in a ICE Mini as well
In Ontario, Canada, that basic 2023 Bolt on the road with all taxes, fees, and EV Credits is still $43k Cdn cash. Add Financing and you're almost at $48k! No Deals Here.
Just bought mine, out the door it was 37k. Bolt ev 2lt with dual speed charging cable and adaptive cruise ad ons, MSRP 31k. After taxes, title, destination, it was 34k. The dealer markup fee posing as a "paint protection package" was 3k extra. I balked at that but decided to get it anyway...
Ugh I absolutely loved my bolt. It was a 2017 that I ended up getting rid of in 2020. I’ve since had 2 teslas and although they are superior to the bolt in nearly every way, there was a certain peppiness to it that I just loved. The upright seating position also felt so expansive, loved it 🥹 I will say, however, i owned the bolt when my daily commute was 2 miles and never went on a single road trip w/ it beyond visiting our second home (~115 miles from my primary one) so maybe I’ve just got rose colored glasses.
9:09 that does actually make me wounder what the gm EV1 would do up against a modern bolt in these tests. yes the bolt would paste the EV1 on range and price, but as far as acceleration and braking, I would like to know who wins.
I had a 2022 Chevrolet Bolt EV for a few months. It was okay. It definitely didn't handle well at all & had absolutely no steering feel. It was a torque monster and had some fun moments, but the cars character/personality is more important to me than anything else. I guess out of these 3... I would pick the Mini Cooper SE as it is more like a go-kart.
A salesperson told the the Mini EPA rating was done with the car fully loaded, five adults and a full trunk. So, the range and acceleration should be much higher, 0-60 closer to 6 sec. and range of 150 miles. I'd like to see if any of this is true. The fact that the mini beat the Bolt means that it is somewhat true.
I am really surprised the Leaf did that well. Not sure about the Mini which can depending upon trim level, can weigh between 2800 and 3800 lbs., but the Leaf is at least 300 lbs. heavier than the Chevy Bolt.
If you didn't get wheel spin on the Bolt, you did something wrong. You have to turn off traction control (that massive button) and turn off regen/one pedal driving.
I had a loaner, Nissan Leaf, from the dealer while my car was getting serviced, and it was plenty fast for me. The charging at was a bummer 😕 took way too long.
That Bolt would roast the tires had you actually stomped it that’s why the Mini beat it. That was a very soft take off. 22+ Bolts aren’t as aggressive as they were in 21 model year. I have a 21 and 22 our 21 outruns the 22 every time. 22+ got a lot of refinements it isn’t as aggressive it takeoff or regen braking. I can make people motion sick in the 21 but the 22 is as I said refined in a smoother less aggressive feel
It’s going to be interesting for Chevy once the Equinox EUV hits the street. A Bolt vs Equinox Test will be must watch tv. I imagine that will make GM Lower the price of the Bolt more Since the Equinox is a little under 30K Although the Bolt is second generation EV technology and the Equinox is third generation. The Bolts range is super impressive. Can’t help but wonder if GM put a third generation battery in the Bolt after the battery recall. That alone makes the Bolt an even better bargain.
@@darkerbrother1 not really a direct replacement as it's much bigger than the Bolt and EUV. The Bolt needs to die because the battery limitations are confusing people with the better Ultium system.
GM has said the Equinox will be "about" $30k. I would be shocked if the Equinox EV starts less than $31,990. This will likely increase to the mid $40k range for top trims.
Turning on Sport mode in the Bolt isn't going to give optimum results in the 1/4 mile. The traction control also needs turning off. That combination would have made a termendous difference in the test..
The MINI is the prettiest, the Chevy seems to be the most modern and some how more spacious. The Leaf the most "reliable" due to its longevity in the market, but all of them sucks big time in drag racing 🤠
More proof of my research into the Bolt EV before the purchase paid off. Owning my 2023 for only 3 weeks now and I love the car. Everybody loves value.
Leaf does have 100kW charging but due to rapidgate and the lack of 100kW CHAdeMO chargers you are essentially limited to 50 to 70kW and all the way down to the low teens if the battery is too hot
The word "cheap" and $30,000 do not go together in my world. I'm not broke, and I make decent money, but I would never call a new car "cheap." A 20 year old Pontiac Vibe I bought for $1,400? yes, that's cheap.
Every 20-25 years or so, consumer prices double due to inflation. This has been going on for well over two centuries in America. This is why a loaf of bread no longer costs a nickel
Wish they'd make the bolt 1k more expensive and upgrade the charging hardware to handle 100-150kW. It could be a person's only vehicle if it weren't for that.
Driving Electric is not just about range (gas wins on that) or performance but about efficiency. So what about Miles per Kwh? I saw one vehicle (the Leaf?) had something like 3.7, what about the Bolt and the Mini-Cooper? I'm guessing that the Mini might do better, just as it did in performance.
When it comes down to drag races and things of the sort where weight and time is a factor, the tfl kids need to be at the wheel or have one designated driver. When Daddy tfl is in a ride potentially the car is going to go slower. He is taller and he is probably about 40 to 60 lb bigger than Tommy. I know a lot of this programming is for entertainment value but when stats are trying to be made, consistency is king. More weight equals less speed and less mileage, especially when it comes to EV's.
I currently drive a used 2020 Chevrolet Bolt EV. I must say that it was a good buy on Black Friday here in Medford Oregon. I was driving a used 2015 Nissan Leaf which does make the 2020 Bolt seem loads better. I am still waiting for my recall appointment to get a new battery in my Bolt. Great video.
@@danielsodden7728 Yeah, really. They were already getting annihilated by Tesla before the cuts. The base Model 3 charges three times faster (170 kW) and actually has a really good charging network. Game over.
@TFLEV Constructive input for the video editor: Stop cutting to the hard-to-understand walkie-talkie voice when editing. You have voice and cameras on both the speaker and receiver. The walkie-talkie voice can be hard to understand, so please use the better audio of the recorded voice rather than cutting to the walkie-talkie recording. Have noticed this throughout the TFL channels. Otherwise, really love the edits and videos. Thanks.
that Chevy is $18K in NJ until March, 2023 after state instant EV discount ($4,000) and $7,500 federal tax credit (for those who qualify, to be filed in 2024)
I have a chevy bolt euv now. I had tesla model 3 dual motor and bmw i3 2019 with range extender but at 31k plus all insensitives best car u can own. I have cooled seats tesla or leafe do not have that.
@@Plisken65 The Mini costs more, yet has horrible range. The Leaf costs as much, generally more, has noticeably less range and for some mind-blowing reason, still has a battery pack that isn't properly thermally managed. You get far more capability and generally for less cost with the Bolt (looking at just these three autos).
The Bolt is the most practical car. If only it had 150kw charging, instead of 50kw (they messed up there), I'd say this would be the EV everyone should get, even over a real wheel drive Tesla Model 3. As it is, it's still great for 99% of drivers out there. Unless you're doing road trips all the time or using your car for Uber, it's not an issue.
