I was there…it was Comiskey Park, and it was a day long show with A Flock of Seagulls, The Fixx, Joan Jett and The Police. I came for Ministry, because I was a Wax Trax! kid
Haha try to tell Al that. I did at an after show get together in '87 (or '88) at the Ambassador in Dallas. First he tries to buy my Tanker boots off me then we're drinking a bottle of Jameson (he tells me he drinks Irish Whiskey because he vomits alot of nights before he falls asleep and it comes up easier on the throat) and get into a discussion as to why he won't play anything before Twitch. He shunned that early stuff saying it was too dancy he'd moved on etc... I got into an argument with him about it, my GF and I were dying to hear Halloween and they did not play it. Every Day is Halloween, Revenge, is so great. Everyday is Halloween is timeless. At least they did play Over the Shoulder which was so great. Too each his own and it's his deal to move on but that alt metal sounding guitar stuff of the next decade was terrible.
@albertprazolam4341 agree with u, to me Both New Wave And The Industrial Metal Phase Of Ministry Were Great, After Filth Pig I Feel Like The Band's Prime Years Were Done, Their New Stuff In my Opinion Is Terrible.
1. 0:42 Work For Love 2. 8:21 So-So Life 3. 14:23 or 15:29 Revenge 4. 21:05 Effigy (I'm Not An) 5. 25:27 What Is The Reason? 6. 29:31 I'm Falling 7. 33:52 I Wanted To Tell Her 8. 39:27 What He Say 9. 44:11 Here We Go Rappel: 10. 49:02 James Bond Theme 11. 50:29 Overkill
I was in high school and college during this period and really loved Ministry. Not sure about you guys, but I can totally see the connection between the old stuff and the heavier work of later on. This old Ministry was all part of the development, evolution, growth of the sound. It's all connected. You'd never get to today's Ministry without yesterday's Ministry. I guess you'd have to have been around during those days and live through/experience the whole vibe of that time to know what I'm talking about. Now...I need to go read and watch what Al has said about how he hated Ministry of that time. Well...we all LOVED it.
I agree - if you were THERE, you could see the subtle transition taking place, from the faux-Brit-accented new wavey WS to the more fiercely electro-pop single EDIH to the harsher dance-industrial Twitch to the more full blown industrial metal of LORAH and beyond. Somewhere along the way, they lost me, but I will always cherish their albums through Psalm69. I have maybe 2 of their later albums and have partially listened to the others, but they are just too mired in the metal for my tastes. I like metal, don't get me wrong, but they don't make very interesting metal, IMO. They need to be more synth-poppy again, but that will never happen.
@@ClockwiseCat I came back to Ministry this last month and find that live in 83 to early 90s they were clearly solid and interesting. I think rehab derailed Filth Pig (1995) and going back to drugs Dark Side of the Spoon (1998). After that I remember only my hardcore Ministry friends were like yeah its legacy music.... I mean Al was fucking captivating when he's performing even some songs I don't yet know from the live tapes of 83.
Gosh , I was 19 when this came out. WLIR in New York was the only station to play Ministry and I loved it. Bought the cassette and cranked it in my Camaro nonstop for weeks..
Ministry @ First Avenue, Minneapolis, July 20, 1983 1. Work For Love 0:42 2. So-So Life 8:21 3. Revenge 14:23 or 15:29 4. Effigy (I'm Not An) 21:05 5. What Is The Reason? 25:27 6. I'm Falling 29:31 7. I Wanted To Tell Her 33:52 8. What He Say 39:27 9. Here We Go 44:11 Encore: 10. James Bond Theme 49:02 11. Overkill 50:29
Hard to believe this year marks the 40th anniversary Ministry released their breakthrough album🎶-and New Wave classic-"With Symphony"😏. This must of come during the group's first tour of America. Interestingly enough, three days after this, they returned to Chicago (they were there the previous year)...and played in front of over 30,000 people at Comiskey Park; as part of WLS' Rock concert festival (Ministry replaced The Simple Minds after they withdrew).👍
I'm a huge Al fan never heard this before but he is very talented person. There was alot of great dance Funk in the early 80s. Al is someone who found his way to greatness.
@@rivotrich7 sick, thank you! maybe i'll seek them out and play a gig with them! there's also a Christian Death cover band in LA called Only Theatre of Pain
uber-marvelous for various reasons: 1-Al shall never revisit his synth-pop Nuwave past (most unfortunate to say the least). 2-Al was so pretty back then its almost a crime he never did any professional modeling 3-Trent Reznor still won't admit he wuz into dis side of Ministry before he even got into WaxTrax! stuff, Twitch or Land Rape & Honey 4-Groovie Mann of Thrill Kill Kult helped Al find direction & dis stuff is closely rooted to Special Affect-only die-hard Ministry fans know these factoids
You can kinda tell Al was ok with this period but he was much more of an angry guy then they wanted to make him out to be. Just l;listen to the lyrics even on With Sympathy he's pissed the producer just kinda wrapped it up in a poppy package. He had some really great sons from this period that never were released it is a shame. I love what Ministry became but i also love the more new wave part as well.
Yes I agree with what you're saying. First heard him on a college radio station in 83. Sure some of his metal albums aren't that great and I've bought a few throughout the years but I always respected what he has to say.
@@leoromanopinelo4761 lol right, Bring me the horizons 180 transformation was this drastic, just in the opposite direction. From heavy to radio friendly bubble gum pop
You taught me something new today - thanks for the heads up on Special Affect. I agree with your points as well. It could be the warm fuzzies because I was just coming of age musically when I got a hold of this but it's a shame to me that this music doesn't get the love it deserves.
I was 3 when this happened too! 😂 I’m watching this wishing I coulda been there. I miss the 80’s so much. 90’s were cool, but the 80’s had something really special that was lost in the 90’s.
If Al had carried on in this direction, not only would the music have been much better and cooler, but he'd look like a hip, dignified Bryan Ferry-esque old man instead of a tattooed circus freak pin cushion
so you think that Al wouldn't look like he does today based on what type of music he is producing? lol I think it has more to do with drugs than the music.
@@williampowell4817 once he ruined this band and started making crap music of course he’s gonna take drugs....then more bad music and a troubled tattooed Psycho look is sure to follow
@@jakelee7639 well, according to Al in his book he was a substance abuser during his teens, so the drugs came way before this video was recorded. although tattoos are probably just a result of the addictive personality trait he has. I would say that is also partially the reason for all the piercings, he gave up heroin and substituted that addiction with the piercings. which isn't uncommon for recovering addicts to find an alternative to drugs to get their fix, like skydiving etc. As far making crap music, i personally like the evolution of ministry from synth pop to the more aggressive sound, if a band ceases to evolve then they become boring, which i would say is the issue with the latest output from Al and Ministry, Ministry stopped evolving and it's basically stuck and repeating itself. while i may not necessarily care for the what Al has put out recently with Ministry since house of the mole, there are a still a handful of decent songs here and there on the proceeding releases. I personally would love to see him mix the current sound with the synth pop days, i doubt it will happen, but who knows maybe we will see some with sympathy styled music from ministry one day.
This is amazinggg!! Just thinking of the fact that I will never see any of these songs live gives me an empty feeling inside... see you in a few weeks Uncle Al
They're actually doing a few shows soon in honor of the Waxtrax records documentary that is about to come out and have stated that they are going to play some of these old tunes. For real
it gets da luv in small doses by those of us who shall never forget how pure & visceral Al wuz...he still rules but of course its his evil twin that took over...one could say he evolved vs. those who stigmatize him...like he's an abomination or mutation of his true self but it worx, Al is versatile & has invented genres, cross pollinated genres & even destroyed sum genres, lol...thnx for sharing my luv for Nuwave Synth-Pop Ministry!!
I can't believe what i see...ähh...hear😄...we can be happy that Al found later the "right way" for the music of Ministry!They make so fantastic music🤠🤘👏👏👏💪👍
Nah, He Was A Metal God Here, The Only Difference Was The Record Label. Al Wanted His Debut To Sound Like 'Twitch' And 'The Land Of Milk And Honey' at that Time But His Record Label Ignored His Idea and Pushed Him to Do A More Commercially New Wave Instead which Is the Reason why Al Hated This Album and Era. He Likes The Songs But He Doesn't Like The History Involving With It.
I’m from Minnesota, where this took place (first avenue is an iconic club in MN, not too far from where I live. I would have loved to be here, but I was 5 in ‘83…. 🤘🤘
Sold their soul to the Man to get their toes inside the Door that depeche mode/new order opened up. once in, they became hardcore....Twitch was the middleground and best album IMO...over the shoulder/my possession....saw them in this era NYC 1984 i think in gramercy park...Never got into the hard stuff speed metal but still listened
And that is why you should store your vhs in the dark. Although in view of the fact that vhs have a max lifespan of 30 years every tape that wasn’t digitalised yet is lost 😑
@@marktrudeau8512 Unlikely, Puppy didn't release anything properly until remission in 84. They were already a band, but outside of the 50 odd copies of the Back&Forth tape, they hadn't put anything out there
it probably has a more popular name but i think it looks a lot like an Argentonian gaucho hat. I think ive seen a hat like that in the Westworld series too, it’s not solely an Argentinian style
It's called a pork pie they were popular in the 80s Molly ringwald wore one in her movie 16 candles spray at ton of aquanet then rock it all the way back
