@@TheEletronicFunky Not sure if he actually got to play any of this in a band but he loved this early ministry stuff. He would rant and rave about it. I had pins all over my jacket but even if he wore a tshirt he would wear a Ministry pin. A fun Aquarious that never judges anyone and is cool with anything.
It's actually quite simple to make. Simply get your favorite synth bass vst and copy the drum sequence onto the bass track. And add a gate sequencer (like A1) and an arpeggiator (I like ableton's descending 12ths) Change the sequencer to a basic electronic/techno/etc. Pattern toggle wet/dry knob to 50-75%. Have arp playing 50-75 dry/wet, notes timed to 32, repeat 2-4... and that's pretty much it. It'll play along with the drum beat but add small deviations like the Ministry track does. Minor changes to the presets is fun, or add the bass vsts to the drum channel and they'll be more in sync.
So good! Way beyond it's time. Seriously Al, you are a living legend. Rob Halford. Al Jourgensen. Serious Metal staples. Experimented and continue to do so 50 years later. True metal never dies
I was a kid a long time ago...me and my older cousin in the car driving....everything dark going to our grandma's house after being in the record store...this song played...he started to add speed...he was smiling at me ....Best night of my life Edit:He started speeding cause of the adrenaline (this song)not some suicidal shits
People are always debating if the new wave stuff was better than the industrial metal stuff. I'm thinking it was all insanely good. Dude had some talent and could probably make a great country album if he had to.
Same Old Madness lyrics In the morning, reading the paper Read the front page to the back page Welcome to the nuclear age No more time for vicious outrage Same old madness x 4 Wright to London, wright to London wright to Tokyo, wright to Thailand Wright us right here in our homeland Regan sits behind them leering Soviets are domineering Third world things need engineering No more time for loving, caring Same old madness x 4 In the evening, reading the paper Read the front page to the back page Welcome to the crazy age It's the very latest craze Same old madness x 4
In the morning, read the paper Read the front page, read the back page "Welcome to the nuclear age" No more time for vicious outrage Same old madness Same old madness Same old madness Same old madness Write to London, write to Ireland Write to Tokyo, write to Thailand Write us right here in our homeland Reagan sits behind walls sneering Soviets are domineering Third world states need engineering No more time for loving and caring Same old madness Same old madness Same old madness Same old madness In the evening, reading the paper Read the front page through the back page "Welcome to the modern age" It's the very latest craze Same old madness Same old madness Same old madness Same old madness Same old madness Same old madness Same old madness Same old madness Over and over and over and over...
Now i know where the inspiration for 'Hysteria by MUSE' came from. Either that or it's all just a coincidence, either way the intros are almost identical.
So awesome...and that pic is great too, the look is a cross between echo & the bunnymen & duran duran, with some modern english thrown in for good measure lol
Spoke directly to AJ in '89 when I was on WRIU. AJ was very jaded about the synth pop sound. He said it was at the prompting of the record company and his agent to go that way because "it would sell". Al's later heavy sound was closer to what he really wanted to do and who he is artistically. Not my sound, but he's the artist and its his art.
Al's not being entirely truthful but that story helps bolster his metal/industrial cred. According to people who knew Al in the early 80s he was very much into new wave, darkwave, post-punk and synthpop. 'Robert Roberts, one of Ministry's early members, also addressed the discontent around With Sympathy as part of a wide-ranging interview. "I understand that Al, in retrospect, has said that he was very unhappy with With Sympathy and that Arista made him do it," he told the fan website prongs.org. "I don't think that this was entirely true. Now what is true, is that I don't think that With Sympathy really captured the band correctly, at least it really didn't sound like we did live. That I'll admit. But to say that someone twisted his arm, I don't know. He certainly seemed to be into it at the time, more so than anyone else in fact." source: ultimateclassicrock.com/ministry-with-sympathy/
There is also ministry interview from the early/mid 80s where Al says that metal is just noise he can't even listen to. It should be somewhere on prongs.
My friends sister used to bang all these dudes when they came through town back then. Al was very much into this stuff at the time. From the way he dressed, to the way he rocked. At least that's how her stories came off when she got home the next day.
I honestly wish al would still make less heavy industrial albums that have a similar sound as his stuff from the early 80's.. There's no way im the only one lol .. i mean we have plenty of Heavy Ministry Albums, Right??
Mr. Grimm Agreed. I love both styles and Al is great at both, but it would have been cool if he had a side project or something where he kept doing stuff similar to this. Too bad he was too busy shitting on this era and getting messed up on drugs. Lots of wasted time and potential. Though I do understand if he just wanted to move on, synthpop was past it's prime, and I guess he just didn't relate to it anymore.
They had a shit record company because this is the best stuff from the 80s i recently found this and had never heard of it back then. Way better than depeche mode.
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no one hearing the loopy drumbeats, and synth waves, of early DAF here...? ..really?......well, even possible , Al and his MiNISTRY didn´t too. Sounds GREAT, both of ´em :-D
There are other versions of this song that are high quality but i think i perfer this version over any of the others. The bad recording quality kinda adds to it
In theory, punks and ravers should be the most keen to know their common lineage in aggro robo music, but as it goes the people who keep this history are probably mostly of the industrial community
