As an older, older homeboy, the first couple of generations of upstaters from San Jo would say, "Me no bang, me no bang." when you hit them up. And they didn't claim "San Jo", the city they were from. There was a liquor store on Virginia Street on the West Side that was a mural of the city and it had the words, "San Jose onthe mural and the upstaters crossed it out and put Mexico 13 under it. Upstaters NEVER wore Northern California sports teams at that time. I didn't have issues and got along with the paisas that didn't bang. My parents are paisas. And yes, i did meet Nortenos in prison who were paisas from other Northern cities/towns. The word "paisa" isn't and should never be seen as a derogatory word. 🤜🏾🤛🏾
It’s funny cus in Y.A nortes from sj were pushing city life or some garbage like that, and would look at Estrella’s from lil towns like tc visa handford Merced as wanna be paisa cholos 😂 and it’s crazy cus growing up in the 209 nortes were quick to claim the were DOs or not active now they in front of liquor stores begging for money 😂
Nortenos & Surenos is a Chicano 🇲🇽🇺🇸 thing… Chicano means Mexican born in the US. Paisa means Mexican born in Mexico. The Mexicans in Mexico hate on Chicanos too, so it goes both ways. If you know you know. The Nortenos 🇲🇽🔴 were part of the original Mexican neighborhoods in Northern California that’s why most of them are Chicanos. They are the home team… A bunch of foreign Paisas coming over here and trying to battle the home team is stupid. Oakland Mexicans have been here since the 1930s and the oldest Varrios turned into Nortenos in the 1970s… This was way before any “Upstaters” existed in the Bay Area.
wtf LOLLL all bs bias ass made up mierda from yet another nortonta, southern cali IS & WILL forever be da home team, southern cali had people movin upstate & da goofy mocosas dat moved upstate formed da norpendeja hoods dat exist today, SUR has been da home team LOL 🇲🇽🔵
We're All Raza this is the way it went down back in the 70s,80s, and early 90s before they started building all the new prisons the homies from down south that were doing alot of time or life had there wifes move up north for visiting family visiting and there kids were mostly from LA were now living up north started the surenos and south siders then the piasl join because of the way the north treated them.
But why represent South if your in, or born and raised in the North? And, if your identifying as a Paisa why wouldn't you bang Border Brother? There was a group of BBs in our Northern town that where from Baja, and Mexicali that where straight gangsters. They also couldn't understand why Paisas would claim South instead of BB. Wanting to be Southsiders in Northern California caused so much destruction in our communities , it's heart breaking.
That's a trip you say that, I was born & raised in Santa Rosa with familia from Mexicali. I remember visiting Chicali since the 70's and Chicali was always 13 along with Tijuana. Being that close to the border, the Cali influence has always been strong.
Northern are mix bro in 559 central valley their alot of whiteboys that use racist shit that's how southerners got bigger I seriously thought it was a fight against racism neta 😅😅 I started to hang out with southerners in high skul and also u ain't a south side till u get jump they choose u and u make the decision. Norteno thought cuz u hang out with them u already one of them is not true alot of them didn't join cuz the homies only wanted the won that are down. Some that where down as fuck didn't join any gang 💯 and they where solid ones
We ALL (Mexican/American) are Paisas, if you have Mexican parents/grandparents. It's the hate they have for their own(Race)that makes them speak nonsense. Look how ridiculous, they call themselves Farmeros,(who works the fields?)It's at the point that, that's All they can do as We Can All see, the Sur Is Firmly Established in Northern California. Yes geography means Nothing to the Sur. As for confused, Are all the out of state norteno confused? Is One of the nortenos shot caller, Southern Californian confused ?No,its their choice and beliefs Confused would be someone rapping the N word and Nahuatl in the same song, that would be a Disgraceful Confused rap song.Good video, and Good laughs.
LIL BRO ITS OBVIOUS THE BIG HOMIES LIKE THE UPSTATERS STYLE, IF NOT IT WOULD BE A WHOLE DIFFERENT AGENDA.. YOU GUYS REPRESENT WHAT WE REPRESENT DOWN HERE. YOUR FRONT LINERS WITH THE NS SO THATS ALOT OF RESPECT FOR UPSTATERS AND NORTHERNERS. ITS A WARZONE JUST LIKE DOWN HERE. SEND MINES SS BRATZ GANG HP
I was born and raised in Sacramento and i choose to be a sureño because im proud of being Mexican! I was brought up in the Brown Pride Viva La Raza era im not ashamed of my people and as for paisas starting the upstate sureño movement idk but Mexico is in the south so how are they fake or wannabes or miss led?
Lol gang banging has nothing to do with being a proud Mexican. Lamest shit I’ve ever heard. You took the easy way out of really putting on for your familia. If you were proud you would contribute positively back into the culture and the streets. Thinking like that is what Is keeping these kids dumb and lost.
I don't get why fools be on that "these guys are confused" ? Why because they don't fuck with you? Because they don't like your get down? Never acknowledging the balls it takes to be the underdog & go against the grain. You always hear how Northerners should be respected for being the minority in prison but refuse to acknowledge the same level of respect should apply to their enemies when the tables are turned on the streets
Listo i seen it evolve first hand, first we had the paisas as the connection on dubert and tamilee and even on poco way. Then we had the paisa connect on willow the norteños were all up in them neighborhoods i recall when the vatos from L.A started recruiting the paisas who didn't even know how it all worked. I seen my first real northern California born Sureños in juvenile hall year's ago.
I grew up where VST started in Campbell. Before that I remembered they all rocked brown. Half were born here half weren't. Never heard the claim the south just the neighborhood. This was mid to late 80s.
@TrippySmokez yeah tbh i got over talking about that vato fast we just wanted to humble his ass and ill let conejo keep clowning that foo, ill just push the regular content
They couldn’t say “we don’t bang we paisa” because norteños are no sabos. I’m not from a hood but I remember one time when me and couple foos checked a norteño and asking him about the haircut he had (mongolian) that foo said “I was born like this” mamadas 😂🤦🏽♂️
Look homie we eat beans N Rice ESE I'm 4fm Richmond NoRteno if you a up state ss you still from up NoRTE calforni4No I don't trip a color blue 🔵 red we from NorCal ESE I'm a Norte Mexican ESE we all Raza at the end off the day
Back in the days the majority of southsiders were born in Mexico from my experience I use to play soccer with them in elementary than once we went to middle school everyone chose their own route
What's actually crazy is that if the northerners actually showed love to the paisas there would be way more nationwide Surenos. I'm from WA and the southsiders here identify as upstate SS.
I get it but Surenos move around more and start hoods. Every Mexican gang here in this state bangs Sureno and maybe less them 10% are norteno. I'd go as far as to say less then 5℅
Remember I recommended for you to do a story video on the Norte from san fran mi$$ion? The anti Gun violence activist that was really a killa? His oppz was J baby & them lower missions foo….J baby was mad they spanked his homiez……Ian gon lie his family is full of bad luck
Down north is mainy tho Paisas actually program w nortes in san jose and its actually crazy how many paisas run with nortes and function with them paisas actually dont fuckvw to many homies in the streets unless your tios bring em around
Yeah u right it did sound disrespectful lol serio tho but anyway yeah a lot of those misconceptions are false but I’ve encountered them first hand also everyone just gots to stop downplaying each side because if u consider them a rival that mean u have some level of respect for them otherwise they wouldn’t be a rival
Ha Haha! Calmate Wuey! On the serio your Wishy Wash. Talking about everyone. Start with Yourself, throw some herbicides on your bad harvest of Bitter Nightshade and sow some Daffodils (Truth) seeds, make sure to water them so they can germinate and you can accept it, without getting all butt hurt every time someone speaks it. On All channels I've seen You Trying to downplay more than once. FACTS! You do understand the farming terminology, Right. You do call yourself a proud Farmero and Buster. ( No disrespect to the Northern Raza) he's commented it countless X's
There’s Nortenos in Mexico , and you foos would be very dumb to call them paisas , look down upon them , these foos be wearing XL all that cholo influenced but y’all degrade them, chales . Pick and choosing
I'm 32 growing up in Santa Rosa I never Herd a northerner call a homie a paisa all my homies were born and red raised in the city for me RU-vid is when I first Herd that
@@UpstatePOV well hopefully they do go up homie I wish the best for you I’m not hating. By now I would of thought you would at least have 10k but that chomo chisme drama made a lot of ppl shy away
In San Francisco 22 Bryant hardest Norte gang in the mission in the late 90s recruited a whole bunch of Hondurans mayority of Bryant st were salvadoreños I’m a SS Bryant st was hard LNS SFM YORK ST HAMPSHIRE we’re not on Bryant st level palabra
No disrespect, this is what I’ve always heard…. Surenos are gay. Homie love, like that part from the movie “training day” when he says he loves getting love from the homies and if he ever had his shit pushed in
The problem always has been that they dont do their own removals in county they get separated to their own pod away from nortenos, but they do not do removals snitches get the pass 100 percent they not deep enough to do removals
lets not bull crap each other, many of Norteños never been to Mexico, so they have this perceived notion paisas are week. They havent seen first hand how paisas roll in Mex.
F out here with that there's plenty of people that's been to Mexico not just both sides or maybe because they can't due to situations on getting back you don't think it's a pain in the ass getting to the border from chiapas or the yucatan or d.f
@@johnredcorn1074 im talking about American born dudes that happen to be Nortes, a moajority of them never been to Mexico and dont speak spanish. They can relate to the paisas....hence the xenophobia .
Only busters say that hella homies that live in norcal are from southern cali norwalk sfv victorville u busters just hate the fact homies are here aint no difference honestly
Nope , wrong , the north isn’t big. it’s the sur outta states , there even in Japan ,Europe . Homies can sell shows out there . the north isn’t big . U being talkn about paisas this that and the 3rd but all the foos in Mexico are paisas,now suddenly you wanna dick ride that wave 🌊. no one knows what’s a Norteno outta states it’s always the sur that they mention or ms 13 .
Been an "upstater" for 30 years and counting Been a paisa for 8 years and counting The opps presented themselves, and we far from the same So momma's cried and we fought them life sentences.
😂😂😂... CHALES STILL TRIPPIN ON US SUREÑOS FROM NOR-CALI CAUSE WE PREFER TO SPEAK SPANISH ...😂😂😂 WHEN I WAS DOING TIME I WAS ASKED WHY I ALWAYS SPOKE SPANISH LIKE A PAISA... MY ANSWER WAS I AM A PAISA BUT IN THE CALLES I BANG SUR 13 (we dont represent down south) A CARNAL THE MAJORITY OF HOMIES FROM DOWN SOUTH ARE ALL PAISAS THEY JUST GOTTA CARRY THEMSELVES LIKE THERE HOMIES POCHOS CAUSE IF THEY DON'T THEY GET SHINE OFF...😂😂😂 ASK ANYBODY WHO HAS BEING DEPORTED WHERE ARE THE MAJORITY OF HOMIES FROM... I SPEAK AND WRITE BOTH LANGUAGE BUT IF I KNOW YOU SPEAK SPANISH IM GONNA TALK TO YOU IN SPANISH, NO ME SALGAN CON MAMADAS... THE FIRST TIME I GOT DEPORTED A HOMIE FROM L.A MET US IN MODESTO ON OUR WAY DOWN TO THE BORDER A PAISA OFFER HIM SOME FOOD THIS VATO KEPT SAYING THAT HE DONT UNDERSTAND OR SPEAK SPANISH...😂😂😂.. WE WERE TOLD BY OTHER CAMARADAS ONCE WE HIT THE BORDER GO STRAIGHT TO A MOMO CAUSE OF THE JURAS ... THIS PEN*DEJO GOT STOPPED BY A JURA WE ALL HEARD THE PIG WE JUST KEPT WALKING ESE VATO STOPPED AND ALL OF SUDDEN HE WAS YELLING AT US TO WAIT UP ON HIM IN SPANISH..😂😂😂.. CARNAL IF YOU REALLY THINK ABOUT IT THE ENEMIGAS GOT US BANGING SUR 13... I REMEMBER IF YOU WEARNT PART OF THEIR CREW YOU WERE CALL SCRAPP, SEWER RAT, NAMES THAT I HAD NO IDEA WHAT IT MEANT.. THE FIRST TIME I GOT HIT UP I WAS ASKED ARE YOU A SUREÑO YOU BANG SUR AND OF COURSE NO IDEA THE ONLY WORDS THAT CAME OUT OF MY MOUTH "SOY MEXICANO"...😂😂😂 AFTER A WHILE IT SNAP THIS VATOS HATE SUREÑOS DON'T LIKE BLUE #UCK IT IM GONNA WEAR BLUE AND BANG SUR ON THESES VATOS..😂😂😂 THE REST YA TE LA SAVES... ANYWAYS SALUDOS TO ALL THE SUREÑOS FROM NÒR-CALI... PURO WS SAN JO X3.... CHA..CHA.. CHAAUUU..!!! " F@CK WHAT YOU THINK "...
Saludos to you, Indio, Sonso, puppet, Rana, topo, chocolaté and many more that kicked it back then. Specially when you guy's had an apartment on crucero (between Tami Lee and Dubert) when some varrios got together in Tami Lee (if you remember you remember) because of you guy's and VML's doing it. Only older homies can remember what I'm talking about, even had the chopper out and both side walks flooded with homies!
Why do we fight and separate each other, we all have the same bloodline amd ancestors. Chicanos/Mexicans son la misma raza ! The only Mexican gang that was smart enough to recruit paisa and other latinos is 18st and looked how big they got ! If we would stop being so tribal and stop trying to draw a line we're there isn't one we would be deeper than we already are! We would take over everything from gangs to Hollywood but we are too busy fighting amongst each other! Mexicans are the deepest now imagine if there was unity!?
Im from San Jose and I've always heard there was southsiders here but ive never seen one in public. If i had they weren't wearing any colors. This was 20 years ago Just keeping it real, white boy here.
Shout-out Upstate Califas. Shout-out Socal and the Bay area. I mean what I said, the north don't fuck with us right? So don't @ me with that "you mean northern cali" bs. Why the hell would I give them a shout-out? Chales! 🇲🇽💯💪🏽
But you do know what we mean. Jus like how your younger eses act more “black”than Nortes from the bay to the valley. Any video from an upstate usually gots “fck Chps this south side nigga”🤫😅 from a long haired Mexican foo in warriors fit because it’s blue😂😅
I grew uo in centeal califasin 99 2000 class off 2005 and i was brpught from mexico and so allot of da camaradas whe started bangin sur por lo mismo cause off tha bulldogs and northerners taljing masa and whe did wat whe did allot off da chinos from abc had our backs i wemtvto central high wets campus fresno county and its true wat da camardad says
Ayy homie you cant speak for all of up state..facts..some homies are paisas and some are cali born the difference is we stuck and are proud of are roots also some homies families are generations deep in the gang so as mocosos you grow up seeing the primos tios jefes banging dressing a certain way so thats what you grow up wanting to be thats your fireman astronauts
