Missed the Rama Kara? Here's the KBDFans D60 Aluminum HHKB- Mechanical Keyboard Quick Review

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With the Rama Kara selling for 270 USD+ in the aftermarket, consider the KBDfans D60 which is priced at around 300 USD.
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00:00 Intro
00:44 Intro Part 2
01:55 KBDFans D60 - Design and Layout
05:01 Typing Experience
06:32 Typing Test 1 PC Plate- no standoffs, with both foams
07:33 Thoughts + FR4 Plate
08:58 Typing Test 2 FR4 Plate- no standoffs, with both foams
10:12 Conclusions
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@TheDredgenProject 3 года назад

Three things: 1. The DC60 Lite pre-orders have started but they are currently linked to keycap GBs 2. Keycap on the test is GMK WOB. 3. The Rama Kara is now selling in the aftermarket for 260-270 USD without a dampener, hence the suggestion of considering the D60.

@ziayang4388 3 года назад

is the d60 lite worth it or should i get my tofu build as my first custom build, for me the tofu seems a bit pricey but comparing tofu and this i really like the sound of d60 maybe because the gasket mount. I really dk which one to get d60 lite or tofu, please advise me.

@TheDredgenProject 3 года назад

@@ziayang4388 Tofu can be a good starting point but tray mount can be sometimes inconsistent. With TOFU kits costing close to 200 it is honestly starting hard to recommend it because of other options in the market.

@ziayang4388 3 года назад

@@TheDredgenProject if thats the case do u think i should go for d60 lite lazurite?? for me the tofu is very expensive but the time waiting for the d60 lite lazurite is pretty time consuming.

@TheDredgenProject 3 года назад

@@ziayang4388 If you are budget conscious, the KBD67 and DC60 lite are better in my opinion. I have sold all my Tofus but kept my KBD67 lite.

@DonKassim 3 года назад

Aftermarket where ?

@rowdyturnip 2 года назад

great video mate :)

@owwahow 2 года назад

that moment when you didn't miss the Kara and also bought the D60 and you've still been waiting over a year for both

@parispark7374 3 года назад

it’s actually really good btw i love your videos

@TheDredgenProject 3 года назад

Thanks!

@TheAsianNerd 3 года назад

Oh the stabs are tuned perfectly

@TheDredgenProject 3 года назад

It's not obvious but the fr4 spacebar is a bit tight :(

@anubisprime7280 8 месяцев назад

Building a D60 this weekend cuz Rama hasnt shipped my Kara 😅 coping well needed this vid

@amieldelossantos 3 года назад

The typing sound was nice with both plates, kinda wanna try the L7s too

@TheDredgenProject 3 года назад

Yup it's nice when lighly lubed!

@raydominiqueterre7462 3 года назад

Actually sounds great with the FR4 plate. Kinda sad that it doesn’t have that much flex. i think it is because of the way the gasket mounting is implemented. Great vid!

@TheDredgenProject 3 года назад

Yeah I'm racking my head how to make it flex without sounding hollow :(

@preppyluhhh9453 3 года назад

Woahh.. the keyboard house is small with that typing sound.. and yayyy you sound happy in this video po.. 😁

@TheDredgenProject 3 года назад

@roarbahamut9866 3 года назад

I was on the edge about buying the D60 since its quite expensive but I might just have to give it a go. It sounded freaking amazing and the looks are obviously on top.

@TheDredgenProject 3 года назад

Yeah it's really good if you like HHKB. The only con is the stiff mounting but it's not really a deal breaker imo.

@_Juizyy_ 2 года назад

@@TheDredgenProject so you don’t recommend this board since it’s too stiff?

@TheDredgenProject 2 года назад

@@_Juizyy_ I still recommend it :)

@_Juizyy_ 2 года назад

@@TheDredgenProject nice ;) I am bout to get one , so excited

@amplified29 3 года назад

Clean and great video! Agree on the FR4 plate. Thocc fan myself but the clack sounds nice too! Filing down for a better switch fit sounds like a bit of a hassle though.

@TheDredgenProject 3 года назад

Yeah Andy Nguyen is influencing me too much. I didn't expect the measurement issues from a kbdfans produced plate but oh well. It is what it is.

@blast7105 3 года назад

Awesome video. I like your keyboard. What do you think of my typing video on TypeRacer?

@linchtrade 3 года назад

Owned a D60, honestly it maybe a bit overprice but its still a nice board

@TheDredgenProject 3 года назад

I think the pricing is not that bad since you do get full aluminum :)

@nihalprakash8883 3 года назад

Just built mine, I prefer the sound when I removed the rubber feet so that the case was flush with the deskmat. The sound is much deeper. But I don't want to risk scuffing the bottom of the case. Any ideas on how to get that thock?

@gvnady8380 2 года назад

that custom deskmat 👀

@justanotherpxrson 3 года назад

speaking of kbdfans, sucks that the kbd67 lite r2 was delayed for so long. estimate now says june 25th but i know it will probably be even longer

@TheDredgenProject 3 года назад

Oh it's been delayed? R1 was right on time. I didn't join r2 so I didn't know.

@BearBoi-sy9tz 3 года назад

What weight was ur l7’s btw great video

@thawzie 3 года назад

"once i find another keyboard that i don't need"

@TheDredgenProject 3 года назад

Hahahaha so much truth!

@ayatoyasuda9705 3 года назад

Bro nice vid as always! I'm using a Tofu60 O-Ring mount mod build but I really want the aesthetics of D60 WKL. Is the price difference worth it (feel and acoustics)?

@TheDredgenProject 3 года назад

Hmmmm thst is very subjective. I haven't tried the tofu o ring mount but If you can sell the Togu build you have, I think it is a good upgrade. It's still stiff os typing feel would be s little upgrade. However it is more even than a tray mount that can have hotspots. Sound will be a lot better in my opinion especially with the FR4 plate.

@ayatoyasuda9705 3 года назад

@@TheDredgenProject Thanks, man. Burn money it is!

@comfy8883 3 года назад

I have the Duang60 (cause i wanted to bluetooth but batt wouldn't fit lmao) in mine and those hsve flex cuts but it still felt stiffer than I would have liked. PC plate without case and plate foam was the softest I was able to get it. Curious how it would feel with less gaskets.

@TheDredgenProject 3 года назад

Oh first time I heard about this PCB. That's a lot of flex cuts. It looks interesting!

@randomperson2187 2 года назад

whats a good endgame worth 60-65% gasket mouse keyboard with wkl layout, the only decent ones ive found are this and the bauer 2

@raiderzanonymous7131 3 года назад

What is the alice layout keyboard that you were using in the intro part 2?

@TheDredgenProject 3 года назад

They are both KBDfans maja keyboards. The bright one is a custom acrylic case maja and the other gray/polycarb one is the maja from kbdfans :)

@emil9131 3 года назад

For someone starting the hobby, would you suggest buying an aluminum D60 or wait for an aftermarket KBD67 lite R2?

@TheDredgenProject 3 года назад

Hmmm I think the D60 is a bit expensive to be a first keyboard. Better to start of with the KBD67 Lite. Some stores will likely sell it in stock so no need to buy aftermarket.

@joshua127 3 года назад

Get the D60 lite instead. Much cheaper than D60. Though it is not aluminum

@CeanKeys 2 года назад

i haave this board. may i ask what is the difference between u attaching the standoffs, vs not.. I am so noob i thought u will screw it under the pcb turns out it should me screwed within the plate :

@TheDredgenProject 2 года назад

If you have it attached, you can change the switches without opening up the board since the pcb is fastened to the plate. However this can result to some stiffness in the board.

@pimpycroc4485 3 года назад

where or what would i look up to find keycaps that fit this board i ordered the hhbk layout?

@TheDredgenProject 3 года назад

Most expensive keycap sets would have it. The HHKB layout would usually require a 7u spacebar, 1.75 right shift, split backspace and 1u bottom row modifiers (control, alt windows).

@ph0roggy 3 года назад

Dont forget the 1.5u backspace. A safe bet would to buy Artifact Bloom keycaps off Drop, as they are 40$, which is very budget friendly Just keep in mind they dont feel like regular pbt keycaps as they are WAY too smooth feeling lol

@mykeebaybayon7935 3 года назад

what are other 60% gasket mounts aluminum case that is in stock?

@TheDredgenProject 3 года назад

Aside from the D60 and D65, I don't have anything in mind.

@regrr1774 3 года назад

I was just thinking of getting the D65 and still on the fence on getting the FR4 vs the polycarb or go with the brass plate. Ugh decisions.

@TheDredgenProject 3 года назад

All about preference but I really hate brass hahahaha

@regrr1774 3 года назад

@@TheDredgenProject Is brass that stiff? I've only every tried aluminum and I think it's a bit stiff but bearable.

@zu22779 3 года назад

Question. What mic setup do you use to record the keyboard typing?

@TheDredgenProject 3 года назад

Blue Yeti X fed directly to my Canon M50 :)

@zu22779 3 года назад

@@TheDredgenProject ok cool. That's what I was thinking. I'm hoping to start a channel soon and that mic is one of my options. Do you like it?

@tightuss123 3 года назад

Where would i get a brass plate for this keyboard?

@TheDredgenProject 3 года назад

You probably need a custom? Not sure if kbdfans sells one.

@sh4ba 10 месяцев назад

Is there a control key on the keyboard

@TheDredgenProject 10 месяцев назад

You can program it and change it!

@David040200 3 года назад

What was the song you were listening to in the intro?

@TheDredgenProject 3 года назад

Pwedeng Ayusin Natin To? by Because but it samples Alisson Shore's Halaga.

@Ponker 3 года назад

you can wait for Kara extras or seq 2, alternatively. ur argument def stands about kara aftermarket but I personally don't think Kara is a viable entry choice anymore.

@TheDredgenProject 3 года назад

Agreed. Kara looks to be a good keyboard but way overpriced. I don't see it being significantly better vs other entry boards like kbd67 lite or portico.

@RCPelisco 7 месяцев назад

Yow. What's the name of the song in 00:26. Sounds like a bop.

@TheDredgenProject 7 месяцев назад

Pwedeng Ayusin Natin To by Because. He samples a song from Alisson Shore named Halaga on that track :)

@static_monarch4466 2 года назад

Common misconception, especially with the gmmk pro, gasket mount /= flex

@TommyPratama 3 года назад

how many accounts do i need to create to make that 7% become 70%?

@TheDredgenProject 3 года назад

Aw Thanks man. Just this sub is more thab enough for me :)

@TommyPratama 3 года назад

@@TheDredgenProject ive been subbed since your anne pro 2 days man ahahah

@belgiandos8652 3 года назад

How’s the ergodox? Will there be a review video?

@TheDredgenProject 3 года назад

Yup though I have a lot of things piled up that it may take a while. Basically I don't think it is worth the price.

@belgiandos8652 3 года назад

@@TheDredgenProject can’t wait. did you cop at SRP? been considering it but idk if i should splurge on it

@TheDredgenProject 3 года назад

@@belgiandos8652 Hmmm my initial take on it is that it is not worth it. Copped it in the aftermarket for 260 and I still don't think it was worth it.

@txrek2372 2 года назад

i got mine for 320 with lf hyperglides and 2 plates lol

@Jperales96 3 года назад

What do I buy if I missed this?

@TheDredgenProject 3 года назад

There are still some at the website so you can still buy it. If you miss it, to be honest there's not that much in stock alternative to this one.

@shrekzilla1 3 года назад

whats the keyboard around 1:10 of the video

@TheDredgenProject 3 года назад

Kbdfans Maja :)

@shrekzilla1 3 года назад

@@TheDredgenProject thanks bro, it stood out to me cuz the B was on the right side, any other ergos like that?

@1700tt 3 года назад

Sana magkaron ng d69 lite gb sa pinas

@TheDredgenProject 3 года назад

D69 sir? hahahaha iba na ata yan hahaha but I believe there will be some stores selling D60 lite like Rotobox.

@1700tt 3 года назад

@@TheDredgenProject haha sorry naman d60 lite

@TheDredgenProject 3 года назад

@@1700tt wink wink hahahahaha

@lloydf3399 3 года назад

anyone know the measurements of the keyboard im trying to get a wrist rest and I can't find the measurements

@mikhail6289 2 года назад

302mm

@dbaldominosbm 2 года назад

dude, grab a ruler xD

@jelloshaha 3 года назад

There's a kara right now on ebay for a penny

@TheDredgenProject 3 года назад

Hmmm?

@jelloshaha 3 года назад

@@TheDredgenProject i mean auction

@TheDredgenProject 3 года назад

@@jelloshaha oh not that familiar with those!

@pianistaalex1990 3 года назад

I know it's obvious, but I wouldn't agree with your title, for the Kara was 160 base and the KBDFans HHKB is almost double that.

@TheDredgenProject 3 года назад

You do have a point but currently the Rama Kara is currently selling in the aftermarket for 270 USD. I got my D60 for 240 :)

@pianistaalex1990 3 года назад

@@TheDredgenProject holy f...people are crazy! My whole bill was around 300, but after an extra backplate, weight and alu mounting plate. Additionally, I'm quite sure they will make an R2 for the Kara.

@TheDredgenProject 3 года назад

@@pianistaalex1990 Yeah I do hope they announce it but it's always the case with these things. Even the 160 tag on the base kit without a dampener is already expensive in my books. However some really don't like waiting and prefer on hand items :)

@pianistaalex1990 3 года назад

@@TheDredgenProject I actually weighed the Portico against the Kara, and the latter came on top due to brand (Wilba and Rama), that I don't have an HHKB, and that I prefer the Kara's Azur to TKC's Mint. Fingers crossed on R2 being announced!

@TheDredgenProject 3 года назад

@@pianistaalex1990 Have you checked Ikki68?