My dad was MMS 22 years. I remember a few times that we had to drive dad to work, mom needed the car or something. We had to stop the car X number of feet from the 12 foot chain-link fence with barbed wire rolls that ran along the top The AP guards, OMG, fully dressed out and ready to defend along their K9 soldier who walked in front of them. At this location the AP's were positioned every 20 feet or so. At that time, I didn't know who to fear more the missiles or the AP and K9's ha ha. I just know that all us BRAT's (dependent kids) would be mischevious around the base even the flight lines but boy oh boy never the MMS areas. We wouldn't even think it. Cool-headed-est calm power that could melt you w just a look was an MMS daddy. ha Love you dad, RIP. Salute!
Thanks for posting this. Very interesting video. Interesting to see all that again. I did missile duty at Whiteman AFB from 83 to 84. I had been stationed in England before that and couldn't wait to get back to USAFE. I thought SAC was over rated. Everything you did was on a checklist. Your performance was rated on how well you performed on that checklist. Missile duty was by far the worst assignment I had in a 22 year career. I actually watched the 1983 movie "The day after" from a Launch Control Facility. Surreal.
Note Smith and Wesson 4" barrel (K-Frame) .38 Special revolvers. Either an S&W Model 10 Military and Police or S&W Model 15 Combat Masterpiece. It was the Air Police who originally had the Colt AR-15/M-16 rifle which replaced the older M-1 carbine. During this same era the U.S. Army, Navy, and Marine Corp. and possibly the Coast Guard had the M-14 rifle: caliber 7.62mm NATO/.308 Winchester. The latter was eventually phased out in Vietnam around 1966 by then executive order of Secretary of Defense Robert S. McNamara
@@Forensource FBI bought a lot of 10mm guns after that debacle in Miami in 1986. Google the 1986 Miami Shootout. On 11th April 1986. The responding officers were using revolvers against guys in body armor with AK's.
BECAUSE OF YOU, I WALK THE LINE -- Johnny Cash Being a SAC old-timer, I understand the significance of the foregoing gerund phrase "walking the line." I vividly remember the seemingly interminable periods of being "on the hump", exposed to either "Big Red" or "The Hawk." 🤫
I was a Sr. Fsc at Bravo one LCF, F E Fukkem (Warren) AFB, Wyo; We had 120 rnds back in '87. Camper Crews were Dicks. The damn Outer Zone's would register blowing snow as an 'intruder'.. All that authenticating with codes and crap... incessant! No wonder I smoked two packs a day when they opened up a silo for maintenance. Glad I'm not there anymore. God Bless the Sad Sacks whom maintain them still! (❤❤❤❤)
In '64 when I enlisted, I had enlisted under the Mechanical career field ( no guaranteed jobs back then). When the flight graduated we were all made security police except two, they were made cooks. Hated that job.
Yup, signed up to be a photographer, was made a Cop and sent to Guam. Pissed me off, there were eight of us from BMT sent to Cops, one cook, one crew chief, but the rest of my fight went to clerk typists.
@@WootTootZoot weird hearing you oldies being assigned jobs at BMT. I went in as a guaranteed RF/SATCOM Ground Rat before I went to BMT. There were definitely guys in my flight who went in undecided and got jobs assigned (and yeah lots of them became cops). It seems like a lot of you older vets experienced a whole lot more unknowns than us GWOT guys.
I was in north Dakota and drove past one of the sites that was being maintenanced. I can't remember the number of armored vehicles and crew served weapons, but it was about 6-8 vehicles. This didn't include the humvees and other assorted vehicles. I didn't notice any aircraft, but seriously, you don't want to test these guys. Just keep driving.
I was a SSgt @ FE Warren AFB not happy with my assigment after 5 years overseas. I was a Flight Security Controller 1977-80. I could not leave fast enough.
I was LE, but I pulled security from time to time. Basic load for the M16 was 120 rounds. For our sidearm (M9 Pistol), it was 30 rounds. (And Bruce Steele, yeah, we shot rabbits too - but we brought out own weapons for that: .177 caliber pellet guns. Lol.)
Things changed a lot from when this video was filmed until I was was stationed in the 352 MSS at Whiteman AFB in 89'. 54 rounds? WTF? We carried 180 rounds.The convoy configuration changed a lot. we had 4 fire teams on the ground and one in the air with a US Marshal leading the way. The NDA was enforced differently as well.
I spent a year at Lackland - went to Crypto school in the building with no windows. Our incentive was to pass all tests, if not we were sent to SP dog school. This was in 1969 when the dog school graduates were sent to Vietnam or DEW sites.
Movie right on target. Thanks kaseykasum😉 i spent 6 years missile security "elite of the usaf". 1974-75 minot nd alpha flight. 1981-1983 ellsworth sd commando flight. 1984-1987 whitema mo flying tiger flight. All good people. We were on a constant war footing 24hrs a day 7 days a week. Stress was always high, you screw up once you were out!
@@TheRipper5418But he was on war footing, 24/7. Betta ya no Navy seal knows how to check an 1199 charlie. As long a he scrubbed out the pottie while on camper alert, he is fine.
351st SMW and 351st OMMS 81-83. "SAC trained killer", Coldest of the Cold Warriors. Lol those were the days when Reagan was prez and the Russians feared us.
Great video! Spent 4 years as a MCCC/Flight CC and WCP Emergency Actions Controller for INDIA flight, 510SMS, Whiteman AFB MO. Brings back a lot of great memories from what turned out to be the best assignment of my 22+ years on active duty.
91st MSS, Minot AFB (1975-79).FOXTROT Flight Area. 1976 was the year Security Police started wearing blue berets. The sign at Minot AFB Main Gate read: "Only the Best Come North". We did not carry a .38 sidearm. An M-16 and 120rds of ammo, and gas mask😅
Did he say 48 hour tour? After the post cold war draw down, we were so short handed, we went to a 10 day cycle. Day 1 post out. Days 2, 3, 4 posted. Day 5, recovery. Day 6 , 7 and 8 possible time off, unless you hold critical cert like FSC, and you are needed to back fill a flight that is short. Day 9, commanders option day/training day, unless they need post out early. Day 10, appointment day (training, do up dispatches for KCCC). It was a temporary schedule put in place in 1993. In 2009, we were still in that temporary schedule. People would volunteer for deployments just to get a break.
You are SO RIGHT. I was assigned to Minot's missile field 1994-2002. They have it ALOT better today. Nuke bases are now 100 percent manned and are 4 year controlled tours. And they get EXTRA PAY for working in the missile field. Just a "few" of the Benefits they get today that WE DIDN'T GET. They are Really Spoiled today.
@@atmidnight8740 Longest I worked in the field was 21 days straight. Started that cycle on 9/11, worked 21 days, came home for 3 days, then back out. All ART's and MFT's were mobile at all times, with only one team at a time coming in for re-fuel, food, or change over. MCC crews convoyed out and back under escort. Amazing, just before 9/11, we were so short, he we had a waiver from 20th to have one ART cover two flight areas, and then sister LCF night ART would also cover the same two flight areas , as long as a MFT was posted at one of the LCF's. Threcon Delta is only designed to last for short periods of time, measured in hours. We were in Delta for two months (if I recall). Then Charlie for many, many months. It was a bitch.
@@danoarmstrong2597 It WAS a Bitch!! 23 straight days for me, I remember that Very Well because I got in trouble for sending a "fax" to the orderly room (Commander got it) during those 23 days LOL. We were short people for years due the post 1991 Gulf War draw down. I joined in 1982 when Reagan was building up the military. After the Gulf War the Air Force manning levels went from a 600,000 person force to about 350, 000 person force. Almost CUT in Half!! We worked all 3 squadrons and would have to "borrow" people from other flights to fill post every time we traveled out to the field.
As a former FSC, Fire Team Leader, and Wing Security Controller, there is more than enough missing information so that anyone couldn't circumvent the system, even then. I am surprised to see a film with this much information though. Grand Forks AFB 321/2 MSS 1983-1992.
At Fairchild both the Alert Area, Tanker Alert Area and Weapons Storage Area all had signs stating Use of Deadly Force Is Authorized, we as Security Police did not have to seek the permission to use such force as it was displayed on signs posted very one hundred feet on the perimeter, this sign was separate but immediately below the restricted area signs and in red capital letters.
I caught that too...?? I do know I was on BAF (42 man), in civilian sector, not on the military installation @Plattsburgh AFB, NEW YORK. We had orders not to fire untill permission received, but No HOT Munitions. Running a HOT Load like they are...game on....Use of Deadly Force Authorized.
I was assigned to Fairchild when it was a SAC base. We were called Air Police and didn't need permission to shoot. Any violation with regard to nuclear weapons or positive control material was fair game. Never had any problems in four years.
And now it's time for the long-distance dedication. The letter reads: Dear Kasey, The Soviets have it pretty rough. It's cold over there! So we here in the United States wanted to bring some warmth and sunshine, if only for a brief moment. Kasey, it would really mean a lot if you could play, "The Future's So Bright (I Gotta Wear Shades)" by Timbuk3. From a couple of lonely missile men in South Dakota, Thanks. Gentlemen, I can't think of a better way share the feelings of all Americans. Here's your long-distance dedica... Hey, hold on... what's that... that bright flash? It's coming from the North. Oh, God!! Tzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...
I hated those damn blue bippys! Along with regular fatigues, bright name and Air Force tapes, bright stripes and your honest to God SP Badge makes this from sometime in the mid to late 70s.
I knew I recognized the narrator's voice from somewhere. Did Casey Kasem have an AF pedigree somewhere along? Now, I wonder what after mentioned Priority "A" cargo could ever possibly be,...Hmmmmm?
I have heard stories that Security Police had to respond to a remote missile site because a rabbit had got inside the fence and tripped the alarm. Also, getting to a site in a blizzard was no fun either!
That is true. Several Security Police who worked the Missile Alerts have told of these stories. One troop in particular, got into a bit of trouble when he started trapping the varmints and then hung them from their ears along the perimeter fence line....
Had a rabbit sitting straight up on the blast door at Ellsworth. Tossed my mag light at it and it didn't budge. Frozen solid. The exhaust grate for the SSB was a good place to find animals in winter as it was warm air coming out. Rest in peace Senior Airman Donald Heitkamp Airman First Class Barry Holmes Staff Sergeant Charles Huskey
I don't remember looking so young as a Buck & Staff.....here today the don't have Bucks anymore. Bucks & Staffs was the the Team Leaders in my Day......don't know "especially how" they don't have Bucks anymore.
I thought a Deputy U.S. Marshall accompanies the convoy and is the one who officially designates the National Security Area as temporary Federal property from the outside and the SF provides security on the inside?
@@jarheadshooter6452 we were 804 sps then Sac said you will now be 321fst combat support Grp. Major Gebara was the Sps officer. I was one of the first helicopter Sat team leaders flew convoy support an responded to the nuc field for situation 6's.
76 - 80 6931st Iraklion Crete Greece and 1608 th. Kirtland AFB Albuquerque NM Yup we looked just like that. Old Viet Nam era crap gear. Glad I didn’t go to one of northern SAC bases. BRRRR. The guys are so much better trained and equipped now.
Thanks for serving. USCG Port Security/Force Protection 91-96 D8 MS, LA, & TX w/a little TDY in Seattle. I was reading here on RU-vid the other day that today's AF SPs aren't the cream of the crop like in this and your day, that it's the enlistees with the lowest of ASVAB scores who are "guided" into SP duty. I didn't misread/misunderstand. I hope the commenter was wrong...
@@baronedipiemonte3990 It’s true you don’t need a high score to get AF Security. Keep in mind it’s not a highly skilled job like electronics or some sort of aircraft maintenance job. But still a big responsibility and the biggest career field in the Air Force. Not all bases have jets and missiles but every one of them has Security Police /. Security Forces as it’s known now. And they are much better trained and equipped now than in my day back in 1976 -80. Thank you for your service as well.
"generaL you asked for my opinion" after these missiles have sat underground for 5 years the circuits are totally unreliable, it will be a miracle if we get one off the ground. "
81150.....380th, 4011 MUNS (overseas), Plattburgh AFB SAC New York, (overseas-location undisclosed 18 months), Loring AFB SAC, Maine ('78-'84...Honorable 9/84) I "Walked the Line"
jeez looking at Modern Missile Security and seeing this Makes me think is SPETSNAZ Wanted to Sabotage the Missiles these guys would get horribly murdered and nobody would have a clue not i Get body Armor Wasn't exactly common in the 80's but NO Armor Driving around in a Soft Skinned Truck... "Da comrade We gonna Clap some cheeks today"
Question - Why would SAC give the USSR the exact coordinates (at least the bases themselves) if they want maximum defense? (It's hard to believe the KGB doesn't have this)
You got 3 x 20 round magazines. If you fully loaded the mag with 20 rounds, the weapon was prone to jam. The solution was to load only 18 rounds in each magazine resulting in the 54 round basic load.
