Missing 411 | The Missing Men of Mount Rainier 

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Dear Aidan, you need to look into the disappearances on Mount Nyangani Mountain in Zimbabwe. Tons of people disappear on that mountain and no one knows why. It's such a huge problem, that the GOVERNMENT installed cameras (!) on the mountain and if you want to hike there you need 1. A guide and 2. your mobile phone needs to be fully charged. And yet people still go missing and the most baffling thing is that this should be impossible because the mountain is a PLATEAU where people can be seen easily. The circumstances in which people disappear are typically missing 411 cases. Not long ago 2 boys disappeared out of a group (!) and were found dead in shallow water and the place where they were found had been searched before. Hell, a whole delegation from India disappeared there for days and when they were found they didn't even know that they were missing for such a long time. They thought it was just a few hours. The shamans living around the mountain are saying that it's a holy place and warn travelers that they need to follow certain rules or otherwise they will disappear. 2 of these rules are: 1. Don't wear red or bright clothes and 2. if you see something that's really strange/unusual: Pretend you didn't see it and walk away - never ever go investigate or you disappear. This isn't just some African shamans saying this, the same rules are found all around the world like Asia, Europe and in the US like the Appalachians. That these rules exist all over the world is not a coincidence. I wouldn't be surprised if the reason why so many people disappear is that they didn't know about rule number 2 I just mentioned.Nyangani

Boeing’s hitman, finishing this video, breaths a sigh of relief that his already busy schedule won’t have to get any busier

“pew-ALL-up” is the pronunciation i hear the most for Puyallup. i had never seen that word until i moved up here and constantly needed correction on it lmfao. same thing with Seqium actually being pronounced “squim”

I can't give the video my full attention until later tonight so I'm just going to play this in the background to help yall with the algorithm.

The thing about the heart attack is so true. My dad just thought he'd thrown his back out or something, went to the chiropractor and she checked his blood pressure and told him "you need to get to the hospital". Turns out he was having a heart attack.

I never can get over “ muscle mommy big foot” it’s my favorite thing

Pleeeeaaase don’t ever stop doing the history segment! I ADORE the lore, but it means more with the yore.

It's pronounced "Pew all up". Also, the mossy old man story sounds like it's describing a Lahar caused by an eruption

The Native American History and Mythology/Folklore is some of my favorite stuff you do. I’ve never heard so much on these subjects. It’s fascinating. Your presentation of the material is not only easily digested but is also delightfully delicious.

As an EMT, cardiovascular issues can be sudden and have weird presentation. Both of my mother's heart attacks presented like the flu. I've seen folks complain about back pain, anxiety, or just headaches - it's not just referred pain in the arm like many think.

24:18 being an Eagle Scout isn’t enough to assume he’s well trained in wilderness survival. I’m an Eagle Scout and I’m a very novice camper. Wouldn’t consider myself a wilderness survivalist at all

I live near the bottom of Mt Rainier in Ashford. My family has lived here since the 80s. It's a scenic and beautiful area, and depending on who you ask up here you get one of three awnsers: People who have legit seen things, people spinning a yarn just because it's funny to them, and people who look at you like a you ate one too many questionable fungi. My aunts have stories, my mom has stories, my granddad has stories although he will never explain a thing. This place truly is different.

The mountain looms large over the entire area and you can only get 1/3 up the mountain by car. I actually know about someone who vanished without a trace from a facility at the base of Mt. Rainier. It’s a massive area and not being able to find people there isn’t surprising. While there might not be a cluster for 411 there, it’s still a place with sorrowful mysteries.

I like the history section! It’s actually my favorite part

As a future historian myself I have to say I absolutely love that the history sections are a thing! Having that additional context is just so neat. Also as a European it's extra cool that the sections mostly cover Native American history because it's not a topic that comes up often in my own studies!

I absolutely love your channel!! The way you tell the story, quick intro, your cadence , your intelligence and the way you deep dive actual facts and most of all your humor. It's my favorite!! Thank you for all of it.

As a german I can approve what you said. Most of the time if you want to pay you just raise your hand to a waiter/waitress and ask them: 1. Entschuldung. Kann ich bezahlen. 2. Zahlen, bitte. Or 3. Ich würde gerne bezahlen. Which means: 1. Excuse me, can I pay. 2. Pay(check), please. 3. I would like to pay.

I'll say this- I've spent my entire life hanging out on Mt Rainier and tacoma. With friends and alone. But never off the beaten path. I've done a TINY amount of exploring a few times, and it is shocking how fast you're completely lost. It never really scared me but I always knew how insane of a risk that would be. I totally understand how people could disappear or how there could be feral people there. Also- PEW- like church pew, AL- pronounced like Alfred, UP- Like the opposite of down. Some people say pew-all-up

You apologize too much for the history segments. They're good. A big reason I stuck around and subbed. If you like 'em, keep doing them, because it can't just be me enjoying them.

I love the history segments so please don’t stop making them! All your shows are so well done. I love this channel!!!!

@TheLoreLodge Puyallup is pronounced "Pew-AL-up," with the emphasis on "AL" and with "AL" being pronounced like "Al Sharpton" ... Dont ask me why i chose his name specifically to explain it, your guess is as good as mine lmao. And thank you for doing a video about M411 in my hometown-ish! Reppin Tacoma 253 baybee :D

The Pacific Northwest is an amazingly weird place. More content about it please!

I'm hiking Rainer in late July, so I'm a bit spooked that this video just so happened to come out now haha

The history sections are a big part of what sets your work heads-and-shoulders above that of similar channels, sir. Please keep doing them!

Never stop including the history portion

Mountaineer Ed Viesturs goes in depth with HAPE and HACE incidents on Ranier. He personally witnessed people falling off it due to bad decisions and has been involved in numerous rescues and was a guide up there for years. Side note... Prior to heading to Alaska, some good Mt Denali reading is Denalis Howl. About a climbing disaster caused by crazy ass weather.

This is going on the big tv 😎

I think most of the disappearances have to do with glaciers. In many Alaskan tribes' legends, glaciers are living things that have been rumored to literally swallow people whole. Since glaciers can move up to five feet an hour, a shifting glacier could easily have "swallowed" a person and, while it moved, closed the crevasse they fell into. This is a plausible explanation. On that note, "If you hear hoofbeats, it's probably a horse, not a zebra," seems relevant. This saying means that, even though there are unreasonable explanations, the most likely explanation is usually the correct one...until you rule out the "horse."

*but why was your German teacher banned from Poland???*

Puyallup is pronounced Pew-al-up by locals.

Idk who has been in your ear, but the fact that I’m going to get a history lesson that usually has little to do with the case…is actually why I enjoy your channel! I always learn new things!

If we sign up for the trip, can you guarantee that there will be Sasquatches?

I will pound the table for this until the day i die. You are better than Paulides. You have this uncanny gift for mysterious tragedies that nobody on any platform has. This premiere Lore Lodge content. Please keep these coming! The side quests are great, but every Friday ive been praying for the bread and butter. BOOOOOMMMM. I live in Reading PA. Im 25 minutes away from you! Do it for the mother land!!!

History is fascinating and extremely important in understanding the present. I consider them as bonus content, even as an Australian.

He got banned from Poland for asking for his bill so aggressively

Of course you plug the Alaska trip right as I get a new job and can't take any time off for the next 6 months. Damn you aiden! I hope that this trip goes well and this becomes either an annual or multi-time per year kind of thing that continues! Basically, I hope this isn't a one-and-done kind of opportunity because that would make me a very sad panda

The history lessons are my favorite part! Please keep it up

i like the history section. thanks for the dedication to accuracy

I love the historical segments you do at the start some of the most interesting parts of the videos for me please dont stop 😅

There's a phenomenon known around Rainier called Lahar where when the mountain kicks up volcanic activity all the ice and snow flash melts and all the surrounding valleys are in danger of having 10-30ft wall of water, mud, and picked up trees pass through them. Also, Pyuallup is pronounced Pew-all-up.

Cool to see two young guys doing such good work. Really impressive. I love the historical/ native histories. Never stop. Cheers and thank you.

8:00 I was born here in Washington and I can confirm Puyallup is pronounced “Pyoo-al-up” I have no idea why it’s spelled that way. Also Yakima is “Yakim-aw” not “Yakim-uh”

Dear Aiden, as a German I was thoroughly amused by your German. You did a great job, thanks for having an interest in my mother tongue! It really warms my heart to see people enjoying or liking the language I grew up speaking. Great video, love your channel! Much love from Germany!

I've climbed with JR Storms as have many other good climbers in the PNW. Storms is a good man and solid. He told me about this incident when we climbed. He and the missing guy had different ideas on which way to go back to camp. Camp was due east only 400 meters or so but between tham and camp was a steep and dangerous gully with deep crevasses. Storms wanted to climb above the feature and the missing guy wanted to cross it. Storms is very fit and keeping up with him is hard. The guy unhooked himself and tried his own way and fell into a feature. End of story. Mt Rainier is no safe place for anyone, even very experienced climbers die there. If you go up as a rank amateur, unguided and wonder out on snow your odds are frankly bad. If you need beta on Washington State cases get at me.

39:39 Halq'eméylem (anglicised to Halkomelem) is pronounced halk-uh-MAY-lum. Otherwise, I always love the history sections, and I'm glad to hear about the Coast Salish people finally! I love to hear about the legends I grew up learning online for others to learn about.

There are many native tribes that have a similar flood story in their passed. Some of the Spanish priests have noted this fact when spreading the gospel to some tribes in North and Middle America.

Prominence is real. I will remember till the day I die the first time I saw Rainier. I was on a train from Portland to start college in Seattle in 1996 and we came around a bend.. and my jaw literally dropped. That peak is like nothing I've ever seen. To this day, every time I'm near it, I look for it.

At first I didn't like the History part but now I realize that's what makes this channel so special.

Imagine dying a slow, lonely, and terrifying death. Only for some guy years later saying "bIgFoOt DiD iT". RIP to the souls claimed by the mountains and the forests.

I never miss the history segments ever

I have been living close to Tacoma for a few years and really enjoyed the history lesson. I never skip the history lesson at the beginning because I find them equally as interesting as the second part of the video. You always make it easy for me to understand and follow. Thank you.

FTR: I’m not watching this video because I’m more interested in the 411 cases than your other videos. It just popped up and I happen to be in the mood for it. You’re videos are all great! Life and mood just get in the way. ❤❤❤❤❤

11:50 the flood myth is a common feature among multiple cultures around the world because a massive flood did happen towards the end of the ice age around 12,000 years ago.

I have been saying this for years on David Paulides and his research. I am glad he is bringing stuff to peoples attention but he purposely leaves out information to make it for his criteria better. The crazy thing is he doesn't need to do this. Some of these are truly bizarre already.

Aiden, I love your history teachings! I never skip them! I've learned more about history watching you than I ever did in school. I'm a girl, we're not normally history people lol. BUT your history is very interesting so thank you!

I’m so glad I found your content keep up the amazing work!!

27:05 Idk how much palitis knows about kids, but a frightened child can’t certainly run more than two miles in one night, and a frightened child can very easily travel even further at a more reasonable walk. From being the oldest of three siblings, I can tell you that kids have enough energy to travel a long ways especially when excited or scared

I love the history segment! It's not too long! I like the longer episodes!

You are amazing and brilliant. Please keep teaching and building a love of history. I truly value your content and I am very happy you are here. ❤

I haven’t seen the video yet but I’m so glad I ran into your channel last year! Great content! Keep it up bro

Just asking again.... when are you gonna look into the possible serial killer in Austin TX? Love your channel bud.

Love the history, please keep that in future videos

Hey Aidan, longtime fan and local to this region. I see others have commented on pronunciation but I wanted to clear up some confusion I think you may have had, but correct me if I’m mistaken. The Vancouver being spoken about is actually Vancouver, WA which was settled before Vancouver, B.C. and is to the south of Mt. Rainier and Mt. St. Helen’s. It was called Fort Vancouver and was the headquarters of the Hudson Bay Company for the region. The Chehalis reservation is also not in B.C., but north of Vancouver and directly west of Mt. Rainier. Locals often make the drive here for 4th of July fireworks. Love the video as always and especially the Native history.

Heart attacks are quite insidious. My roommate died of a heart attack two years ago, from a heart condition that he didn't know about. He made no noise when it happened. Our other roommate was 10 feet away, in his room. Heard nothing. Was awful :(

I love the history sections, even if the history ends up unrelated to the main story. Is somethin that got me hooked on this channel

Just wanted to let you know that I enjoy the history segments of ur videos

your channel combines my two greatest interests: anthropological history and “supernatural” disappearances. please never remove the history segments, they’re probably my favorite part. i would watch a channel of you guys just doing history!

Wow finally caught up after binging from the very first vid to now while at work, keep up the great work!

I love historical segment

Omg, little Marcela must've been so brave... 🥺 Immediately going to start binging this channel! I love the format of these videos, the volume, and the way information is presented. Easy to follow, and I completely lost track of time watching.

Great video, as usual. P.S. The history segment is always my favorite part.

This is the content that brought me here! The Riley Gaines videos were great too!

I never get why Aidan has to preface his history segments with so much hesitation and pardoning, who in their right mind would skip the historical lesson in these videos? It gives all of the context and gives importance to the location

Thanks for the quality episode guys!

Been trying to find something new to watch on RU-vid because I finished watching all of Wendigoon’s vids. So glad I found this channel because it’s amazing!!!!! Your content is so interesting and I’m obsessed now.

Ayyyyy Washington mentioned! We love our mountain (when it decides to show itself lol)

I had a coworker who had a heart attack for two days before she went to the doctor. She just thought she was sick

excitedly been waiting for this today. I moved here about two years ago and been learning a lot about the Indigenous culture in the shadow of the beautiful Tahoma. Puyallup is pronounced "Pew-wall-up". I love your Indigenous history lessons in these, I've learned a lot about different tribes through your videos. Especially love seeing how they mash up. Theres a LOT of tribes here, some federally recognized some not. Also potlach ceremonies here traditionally and historically occur around what the US celebrates as thanksgiving. it was cool to learn some societies had a positive tradition during that time before we came along

i find the idea of a tribe of wild people much more interesting and terrifying than big monke

Im sooo hype

Your videos are by far some of the best on RU-vid! I love the history lessons and really appreciate the amount of hard work you put into your content!

Bummed I did not get the notification for the premiere I was off and actually at one time while off was actually home. Keep up the good work y'all!

I personally love the history segments 🥰

From Washington. The mountain is such a beautiful and ominous site on my morning drives to work. I LOVE the history segments btw. I live in olympia and im surrounded by local Tribes/reservations and didn't know much about the history besides a few minor points I was taught in school. Edit: Also how we all hear and say it is phonetically pew-al-up. But that could be how us Colonizers say it 😅

Hi Adrian, just want you to know love hearing your voice. You are a BRAINYACK❤ YOUR VERY EDUCATED! THANK YOU MUCH!😊

❤ Awesome as always thanks

Time for my weekly dose of Loreussy

I love the history sections

great video as always! super stoked for the new merch and shows

My friend is coming down from Rainier where he works to celebrate my 21st birthday with me today. Thank you for the fitting (if morbid) video Lore Lodge!

Personally I always really enjoy the history sections of the videos 👍

I must follow the instructions, ahem: BIGFOOT MUSCLE MOMMY!!

I love the history sections; thank you for doing them.

I love history. Thanks for doing this.

I'd like to request you guys look into the disappearance (and death) of David Gonzalez from Big Bear, CA in the summer of 2004. I believe it has all the markings of a 411 case even though it was deemed a freak accident and thus closed by local law enforcement.

Usually "in the time of [my] grandfather's grandmother" (and similar phrases) are equivalent to "once upon a time"! It signals that the story is a folktale.

Love your videos dude!

I LOVE the history parts of your videos! It really sets the scene and it’s always great to learn something new. I was a history major in college too but sidetracked into nursing & law. Now that I’m retired I’m returning to my history roots 😄

You talk to fast to follow, sorry