The greatest lore implications that this fight and the resulting cutscene has is that you, the player, canonically spend $39.99 in microtransactions within the Kirby universe.
@@DRjaffyI wanna buy the damn $40 pack to get the free win card for gem apples, as 4K/Day is overpowered, but instincts say to not get a $40 pack on a game without much content and that isn’t being updated anymore
@babymariochannel8087 overpowered maybe, but even with the "overpowered" aspect, I would not say it's lacking if you enjoy kirby boss fights. I 100% the game and i have over 70 hours on it. Of course value is in the eye of the beholder, but 40$ for 70 hours of a game I loved doesn't feel bad to me. Also I'm confused about the not being updated part because you're describing 99% of switch games.
For those womdering the original sin happened in heaven and it was Lucifer Deoending on who you ask it was either Pride as Lucifer wanted to "place [his] stars above the stars of heaven" which Magalor wanted to be the ruler above the stars or "pop star" once he got the crown. Another would argue it was Lust as Lust isn't inherently sexual. It means a ravenous passion or want for something again fitting with Magalor. The first sin on Earth was the eating of the Fruit (Commonly depicted as an apple Although never stated what fruit it is) of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. The evil part came from Lucifer who some believe was trapped in the tree as punishment for his rebellion. Just as the crown being the knowledge of evil imprisoned itself in the apple tree To summerize The Master Crown is the Knowledge of all Evil ir Lucifer/Satan/The Dragon.
@@knellchthyomi2884original sin refers to the doctrine that Adam and Eve’s sin of eating from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil caused all humans to be inherently sinful. Attempting to categorize the Fall as one of the seven deadly sins is an unhelpful simplification. The first human sin was choosing to make our own definitions of good and evil instead of trusting God’s knowledge of what is right and wrong, by eating the fruit of the knowledge of good and evil. Original sin refers to that act and its effects, not Satan’s rebellion against God.
Nothing like having the Kirby equivalent of Judas redeem himself by fighting against a metaphorical incarnation of the first sin of man...Kirby is crazy
Don't forget: The Kirby equivalent of Judas is fighting the metaphorical incarnation of the First Sin of Man, to explain MICROTRANSACTIONS IN A SIDE GAME.
creating an entire brand-new story with a god-like apple tree as the final boss is the best way to explain micro transition in a free-to-play Kirby game. good job HAL
@@astraldog3359 this whole story is the origin of the gem apples which are the main currency in the team kirby clash games (the apples can be bought in much larger amounts with real money)
@@astraldog3359in kirby clash there are gem apples which act as the in game currency and in the middle of the hub there is a tree that grows them for free that has golden veins, guess which tree that is
In Norse Mythology, Baldr, the god of light, was unkillable, because everything had made a vow to never harm him. However, there was one lone exception, the mistletoe plant. Loki, being the trickster god he is, arranged Baldr's death by mistletoe. Depending on the version of the story, the killing weapon is instead a _sword_ named mistletoe - or in the original Norse, "Mistilteinn". Also depending on the story, this sword is sometimes found within the underworld, Helheim, on account of being so apparently wicked. So here, the story of little trickster goofball Magolor, traversing the underworld looking for a way home, makes a few choice allusions to Norse Mythology.
The mistletoe is also a parasite that grows in the canopy of trees, and in several (if not all?) Scandinavian languages the word for canopy translates roughly to "tree crown". Additionally, in some versions of the Death of Baldr myth, the reason why the mistletoe can harm Baldr is because of a loophole in the vow. Everything that had touched the earth vowed not to harm Baldr, but because the mistletoe grows in trees it has never touched the earth.
@@gebis8515And the fact that the Master Crown isn’t just an ordinary artefact that grant its user great power but comes with a price to use their body as a vessel EVEN after the user becomes an undead corpse if its user died wearing the crown
@@SpiritOfWaterMontaru must've been the Tree of life, or the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil...given how it's responsible for microtransactions and Magolor just learning all these cool ass spells I'm leaning on the latter
I'll never forget the raw terror I felt seeing this thing descend from the sky for the first time. It's like HAL was fully aware that Kirby final bosses are seen as otherworldly abominations - and completely leaned into that!
I’m guessing they’re Super Kirby Clash? Idk I never really heard those melodies when I played or listened to this, but I know the game is kinda canon now lol
@@Glitchyy07or team kirby clash in general, according to what I heard, the magolor in kirby clash is actually the very same magolor from the mainline series...although I still question how he returned to dreamland(no pun intended).
@@joshcoy6748 maybe the Lor came and found him? Apparently it has a mind of its own, so it’s not completely impossible, but a better theory is that he just traveled from dimension to dimension before getting back
I always say this and I'll say it again, find yoself someone who loves you as much as HAL loves Kirby. The amount of passion and effort they put into this 12 year old game is legit something to be inspired of
“Those who wear the Master Crown will gain power, but so will the darkness in their hearts. Thanks to the red fruit, it has become a wrathful wreath- a destroyer called the Tree Crown Without a Ruler!”
@Kzyit I think I can come up with something.... Doesn't Magolor not come from Halcandra? If I recall correctly, he came from Another Dimension. Still goes hard though.
@@soulofflame9999 he did spend a lot of time alone there, though. He likely still had an attachment to it, since even though he wasn’t born there, it was still his home.
The amount of sheer terror I felt when I saw a Biblically Accurate Whispy Woods descend to bring about the final days was immaculate. 10/10 would die again
It was funny because I was like "Hmm, we fought alternate versions of all the other bosses. I guess they just skipped Whispy.....oh, no, they did not skip Whispy"
You know whats crazy? That alternate universe dream kingdom where we saw a bunch of alternate universe parallels of kirby, meta knight, gooey, and so on? That alternate magalor wearing green? That wasn't an alternate Magalor. IT WAS THE ORIGINAL MAGALOR THE WHOLE TIME. WE'VE BEEN PLAYED FOR FOOLS.
So we got Parallel and the Mirror world. The Parallels are the mirror world version of the alternate universe. Or maybe it's *not* an alternate universe? But if that's not the case, then that still means Magolor in that alternate universe is the real Magolor from the actual universe. Makes sense.
Historically, Ando always puts his whole Andussy into the final boss themes of Kirby, I'm gonna be incredibly sad when he eventually retires one day, but Kirby music is in good hands with Yuki Shimooka (He was on Lead Sound for RTDL Deluxe!) and Yuuta Ogasawara
i think people’s general perspective on kirby lore just being “lol he kills gods for cake” is weak shit and its way more deeper than that and this kinda proved my point lmao
After I beat the first world a friend of mine who had already finished the mode told me: "Isn't Whispy suppossed to be the first boss? Weird right?". I didn't think much of it, but now.. now I get it. He was setting me up lol
@@ProfessorHeavy1 Because we know now that pretty much everything in Kirby is Canon now. This Game proves it. But I think Magolor Mini Land plays way Post Kirby Fighters 2 probably even after Forgotten Land
Now that i think about, The wings of the Master Crown looks similiar to Daiyousei's wings from the Touhou Project series. I know that it wasn't made in purpose but i feel like this similarity.
I was streaming this to my friend and was hoping to God that Whispy Woods would be the final boss since they were doing remixed versions of the bosses. I've never been happier.
The weirdest bit of lore this fight brings is that both *Mistilteinn and Void Termina* share the same attack. The attack where they shoot an array of lazers are both refer to the Master Crown of 'Crown of Hatred and Obsession'. It also suggests that there could be multiple crowns in existence since Void Termina has the power to summon some. Whether the crowns are just objects containing extreme negative power, are containing dark matter or are their own entity on themselves is not known.
It should be pointed out that even the bases of Void Termina's weapons resemble the Master Crown. Personally I think its true nature is a mere extension of Void Termina's infinite power.
I'm pretty sure every Kirby final boss has some move or detail that links back to Void Terminal. Even Necrodeus, the most obscure Kirby antagonist shares his giant laser beam with Void. Well all barring dedede, anyway.
@@sammoore2082 I don't mean share an attack as in they both do the same attack, I mean in-game they are refered to by the same name. The name connects the two.
Kirby seems like the kind of series to give someone a redemption arc to fight a magical tree god possessed by a legendary artifact, all to explain the source of currency in a free-to-play spin-off game, and essentially confirm that this series now has a multiverse
Im sure others have noticed this, but I've never seen anyone else point this out, but the master crown without a ruler looks like it is wearing a halo with thorns, which reminds me of jesus' crown of thorns. It wouldnt make sense for the tree to be wearing the crown, but there arent really spikes anywhere else on the tree other than there so thats interesting
do u know: Aeongree *D*imension Pyred *D*imension Poseiblu *D*imension Locandra *D*imension Ethereal *A*ltar not just DDD. But quad D, Aight not funny...
New lore we got from this game (warning: pretty long) : *Magolor isn't actually from Halcandra + Magolor learned of the ancients and their creations from a dusty tome he found while traveling through Halcandra, initially believing it to be a fairytale. That last part makes me think the book was the book of legend that Hyness's clan wrote before he and his religion got it... Regardless, it was definitely written by the ancients themselves. *The Master Crown does give its wearer infinite power, but in exchange for slowly devouring their soul and amplifying the darkness in their heart and turning it into hatred. Also, the Master Crown has been used by other people for their own nefarious deeds in the past. It also apparently absorbs their negative emotions. *The Doomers, way back when, had a different form where they could warp space and time. *Metal General was used by (presumably) the ancients as a security guard and a weapon to exterminate enemies on other planets. *Both Kirby Clash games are canon, and simply take place in an alternate universe. The Magolor we see in the Kirby Clash games is actually our Magolor who ended up there after the events of Magolor Epilogue. He would eventually somehow return to the main universe in Kirby's Dream Collection. This also means Galacta Knight retroactively made his first canon appearance in the Kirby Clash games. *The Gem Apples in the Kirby Clash games originate from the giant Gem Apple that Magolor was reassembling the pieces of in order to restore himself in Magolor Epilogue. After the Master Crown fused with it and was defeated, Magolor was left with a single small Gem Apple. When he arrived in the Dream Kingdom, he planted the Gem Apple, which would grow into the Gem Apple Tree. The Dream Kingdom would then use Gem Apples as a currency. *Speculative Theory: in the battle with the Master Crown, we see an apocalyptic city (I think it might be Egg Engines?) as the background. Since we know the Master Crown is sentient + has had past users, I think it is showing a past memory, where it was used by someone to rain down destruction on Halcandra, which might explain why it looks like the way it does now. God, the way they finish this all up with this battle is truly masterful. The Master Crown doesn't even look like it belongs in a Kirby game, yet does at the same time. I can't wait to see what they have next in store. !!Edit: Okay, so there is some lore that that was left out of the English localization. I'll list them below as I find the Japanese pause descriptions (which is surprisingly hard) *Landia is not only a dragon, but a guardian deity. That means Landia is of some kind of divine status, though I suppose one would be able to tell from his English title of Guardian Angel. *The Japanese description kinda confirms that the Master Crown is basically a world destroyer, stating that it has "traveled through many worlds and lands," probabaly corrupting its victims in the worlds and influencing them to destroy them. Wtf were the ancients thinking when they made this thing lmao
@@segafan1316 It mentions the book in Magolor EX's pause description, and Magolor says he's not from Halcandra when talking to him in Extra Mode after collecting all Energy Spheres.
@@segafan1316 So Halcandra got desecrated by one of its creations... but then got subdued by the guardian Landia? Interesting on why Landia didn't want to give up the crown... not because of knowing Magolor is wanting its dark power, but because it seen the full force of the nightmarish artifact
@@friendlybendy2070 my main guess that the landia we fough in the extra mode is a landia who didn't expirience onward the events of the fight this or it was just too overconfident that this time it will win it have a good heart but my belive they were a bit of thought that this time they can win and stop because they know they are the only one who able to hold the crown with little problems and they can't either destroy it and give up on it or leave it will still give a higher chance to mag or anyone to get their hands on it
It's funny how if you wanted to, you could summarize this mode's climax as "Magolor fights for a pay raise" Dude, Hirokazu Ando is a goddamn incredible composer, yet another amazing final boss theme from him, I don't get how he does it. It's WILD hearing Team Kirby Clash's motifs show up in such an insane context, everything's so nicely intertwined with RtDL's motifs, and I get absolute chills from moments like 2:03 & especially 2:37 where Clash's melodies fully shine through. Shinya Kumazaki can NOT get away with coming up with such an insane premise
this man really did all of this to explain the backstory of a spin off in game currency. i am 100% sure no one asked for this, BUT IM SO GLAD WE GOT IT
When I was playing the part at 2:37 with the full remix of Ordeal hit right when the Master Crown did that massive attack where it slammed directly into the arena. I don't think I've ever been so utterly blown away.
Man, Kirby really goes all out with these finales, they are so epic using concepts that the typical human brain wouldn't think of right away. I wish trees were real...
@@caseyrobinson375 I heard there’s a lumberjack standing the size of an actual tree with a big blue ox too! Man, lumberjacks sound so cool, too bad they’re just myths
It is very intimidating, it is one of the biggest enemies in the franchise, the biggest of all being Star Dream and the great Nova comet since these have the size of a planet comparable to Saturn.
Was playing it 4 players with my brothers and when it disappeared, I was like "That can't be good, gonna disappear into another dimension for a sec" The others were... less lucky
@@deluxe3ds star dream and the access ark could've been the biggest bosses of all time, but their sizes fluctuate from phase to phase it's hard to say how big they actually are.
Fun fact: When we translate ‘apple’ in Korean, the word we translated in Korean does not only mean the fruit, or a company’s name, but it also means ‘to apologize’ in verb. That means magolor collects fragments of the gem apple to redeem his sins and apologize to kirby and friends.
If we take this one step further, Magolor's ventures through the other dimensions and Defeating the final boss to return to his original world is very reminiscent of Judas traveling through Hell to cut down the tree that housed the apple of forbidden knowledge. In a sense, Magolor is Judas venturing through a hell equivalent to redeem himself and stop the root of the game's evil force from returning.
I think I just learned a great lesson and that is that when HAL creates a Kirby game they always take their Lore seriously to such an extent that things that were once non-canon find the craziest but reasonably logical way to make them canon. .. Take notes Kingdom Heart's!
They Straight up said “We are going to make the Team Kirby Clash Games Canon, Explain the origins of Gem apples and show off halcandras Destruction all in one boss fight!”
If I had a nickel for every time Whispy Woods had a Yggdrasil variant, I’d have two nickels, which isn’t a lot but it’s weird that it happened twice right?
@@unstopable8000 I was at low health after the Doomer fight and I didn’t expect the root to shoot out as fast as it did for the first attack, so I died IMMEDIATELY after the cutscene. It was both funny and a crazy feeling to fight a being that huge in a side scrolling fashion. I believe this is the biggest Kirby boss fought in a 2D space (aside from being inside of Galactic Nova of course)
When I saw the shadows I knew exactly what would happen and avoid it. The size of the tree just amazed me, but then it just got further in the ground making the rocks kill me, like what. I died a lot in this fight.
This is likely just a coincidence but I find it kinda cool that the "E" at the end of "Epilogue" sort of looks like the letter C. If we do assume it's a C, the beginning letter is M and the ending letter is C. *Master Crown* Because the epilogue began and ended with the Master Crown...
when i was going through the epilogue i made a joking remark to my friend that the reason whispy hadn't appeared was because he was going to be in some yggdrasil form as what i thought was going to be an earth elemental boss of area 4 i nearly screamed out loud once i managed to defeat the crowned doomer about 30 minutes later
ever since CROWNED first came out I thought kirby would never top itself on a final battle theme again, then came elfilis and this and jeez hal isn't slowing down
Huh? I went through this whole mode and haven't fought Wispy Woods... I wonder why that is? *Sees the skies tear open as Mistilteinn descends from the heavens* ah
I remember me and my nephew's exact blind reaction "Wait....what is this, what is happening..what-" My nephew: : "oh wot the-" *The tree came floating down* "What-" *absolute silence* "What....the.....fuck...is that?" My nephew: your gonna die- "WHAT IS THAT" Nephew: your gonna die- *Name reveals as the master crown* Me and my nephew: "WHAAAAAAT"
I mostly was teasing my sibling when doing this blind together as I already noticed that Whispy Woods was not in the trailers and went like 'what if' The surprise was hilarious to see a tree as finale though.
0:20 "So the weight of my sins has become a goliath, the final foe before I can triumph. The final bastion holding me back from, bringing my heart back to light."
"I will fight, so the crown can't seduce me again. I know now the darkness's design, I must atone for all my crimes, resolve to use this magic of mine, to fell the kingless crown. Silence the calling of the void, so no more souls can be destroyed, cut the strings that rendered me a toy, and chop this tyrant down to the ground."
@@justinsabino8535”This crown will never let this poor, magic fool forget the crimes that he has perpetraaaaaaateed! All I can do for now is move forward, never bow again to its hatred. The darkness within my heart, I must extinguish its flame and bring back the liiiiiight Kirby showed me with his soul!”
Fought this boss yesterday. Literally gave me tonal whiplash, so much shit happening so fast. And I didn't expect the twist at the end that Magolor ended up in the Dream Kingdom. Amazing boss, amazing song, would do everything to experience it anew all over again.
Man this guy's a real BIRCH. He really fOAKs you up if you don't know what you're doin. I mean seriously why does he keep putting his roots on the stage it's like he's just ASPEN to take damage. this is a sick ass boss fight though me and the boys fighting a god-possessed tree using a magical egg catboy so that he can show up in kirby super clash and start charging me real money for digital apples
The craziest thing about this is this has been canon for years. Kumazaki mentioned in a really obscure 2017 Nintendo DREAM interview is that Shopkeeper Magolor is the same one from the mainline games.
I like to imagine he said this, and then later realized “Hey, I just had a good idea for a side mode in a return to dreamland remake. You get to play as magolor after the events of RTDL, and see the events that led to him appearing in the Kirby Clash games.”
@@Glitchyy07 Makes sense, but I still find it curious that he would specifically decide Shopkeeper Magolor was "our" Magolor from the get-go. The easiest answer by far would've been that Shopkeeper Magolor was an alternate counterpart, like everyone else in that game. Kumazaki going for a more convoluted explanation makes me think he was deliberately trying to set something up.
*Lyrics by Juno Songs* So the weight of my sins has become a goliath The final foe before I can triumph The final bastion holding me back from bringing my heart back to light I know the world can't forgive... But it gave me this chance To finally be a hero and set things right, Shatter the master's reign I will fight so the crown can't seduce me again! I know that the darkness's design I must atone for all my crimes Resolve to use this magic of mine To fell the kingless crown! Silence the calling of the void So no more souls can be destroyed! Cut the strings that rendered me a toy And chop this tyrant down To the ground! This crown will never let this poor magic fool forget the crimes that he has perpetrated! All I can do for now is move forward, never bow again to its hatred! The darkness within my heart I must extinguish its flame And bring back the light Kirby showed me with his soul! Kirby I will come back to you, Where the spring breeze blows, Once Magolor has atoned, I hope we may be true friends again... If you will have me once more, I swear When you need me, I'll be there... HEAR ME, YOU MONSTER! YOU ARE NO MASTER OF MINE! Join my sins... BURN AND DIE!!! With the magic I have worked to recover I'll stop what I dared to begin Now my quest through space's hell is soon over I'll do anything that it takes to win! Put your dukes up, you weed! Now you tangle with me! I'm the one who rose past your corruption! No more will you extend Your roots of darkness, I'll end The Master Crown's vile conquest, I will rise once more like the sun! Heroes must stand up for what they believe I may have learned that too late, but... Learning too late will not stop me From blowing down all your leaves Cut the fruit you devoured free I alone can defeat the tree crown Without... a... KING!
You know, while I was playing I through the epilogue I was wondering why there was no Wispy Woods variant to fight like there is with the other bosses. I guess this answers my question?
See, it’s stuff like this that makes a Kirby game feel so special. They don’t have to go so hard on a final boss theme for something kiddie-looking like Kirby… and yet, here we are. Pipe organs, angelic choirs, musical connections to other games in the series, and it can have the power to sway emotions upon listening to it. I bow to Kirby’s soundtrack writers and composers. We don’t deserve such excellent musical art 0.0
Evolution of HAL blowing our minds with Kirby lore in recent games: SA: "A bunch of villains from the series and possibly Kirby himself might all be reincarnations of a god. Also the reoccurring orange butterfly seen in so many games is actually the Grim Reaper." SKC: "Galacta Knight was one of the heroes that sealed the god from last game. Still no canon fight though!" FL: "Here's some batshit insane Science Ancients lore, also Death Butterfly is canon." RTDLD: "SO MAGOLOR FOUGHT THE MASTER CROWN FUSED WITH A MAGICAL GEM APPLE IN THE FORM OF A BIBLICALLY ACCURATE APPLE TREE REMINISCENT OF THE ORIGINAL SIN FROM GENESIS AND THE BACKGROUND IS LITERALLY HALCANDRA BEING DESTROYED BECAUSE WHY THE FUCK NOT, AND THEN MAGOLOR BECAME GREEN AND PLANTED THE GEM APPLE IN A KINGDOM IN ANOTHER DIMENSION, CREATING THE GEM APPLE TREE HE LATER USES FOR MICROTRANSACTIONS MAKING THE CLASH GAMES CANON, WHICH IN TURN MAKES THE AEON HERO FIGHT CANON, also Metal General is a discount Star Dream with depression and Doomers used to have a different form HAVE FUN."
@@segafan1316 VS Metal General Long ago, the soulless battle robot Metal General would be dispatched by its master to visit other planets and exterminate their foes. Now it serves as security, guarding this spot for eternity. VS Metal General EX Forced to work security long after its master's death, this robot uses AI to maintain itself and control the machines of Egg Engines. It has a wide variety of advanced features...but still no heart.
I love that the Final Boss themes for ANY Kirby game (especially the more recent ones) give that feeling of a true Final Battle in a setting where the world around you is ending and you're facing the final chapter of the game.
pokemon song titles: "battle! character" kirby song titles: *full sentence, reference to an ancient obscure myth from the ninth century BC, at least 4 punctuation marks*
Mistilteinn: Old Norse for mistletoe, which grows on the crowns of apple trees. Also the name of Hrómundr Gripsson's sword in Hrómundar saga Gripssonar, an Icelandic legendary tale. And no guesses as to how Magalor deals the finishing blow to the Master Crown. What a specific pull for a song title.
To be fair we've already had "Two Planets Approach the Roche Limit" in Forgotten Land so honestly pulling from Icelandic mythology is kind of a step down from that
I'd like to add something in context to mistletoe in relation to the Norse people In Norse mythology there's a famous myth about Loki killing Baldur (basically Norse Jesus) with an arrow made of mistletoe, the only thing that could hurt him. Now there's one thing about this, though. All surviving Norse mythology was written down AFTER the region was Christianized meaning what we have is likely influenced by Christianity. It is believed that Loki was associated with Satan and Baldur with Jesus. We simply don't know anything about this myth from before it was influenced by Christianity. Curiously however, even though it was used as a weapon against the most beloved god in the pantheon, the mistletoe plant is seen as a sign of love and peace. This just makes it more eerie when you consider the fact that a tree possessed by a demonic entity hellbent on destruction is named after a sign of love and peace.
So what I like to acknowledge is that the boss fight descriptions given about this crown kind help elaborate on what it truly is It's technically dark matter but not at the same time. It gives power to the darkness in one's heart, so it gives the user it's own dark matter-esque form. (If that makes sense lol)
What I think is that the ancients used what they knew about void to make the artifacts. They based their technology and magic heavily around Void from what we see. There are other things that's not Void related like the portals that came from Elfilin but you get the idea
No it's actually void. Void is highly linked to emotions and negative ones turn void evil and destructive. The crown basically turns anyone into void. When wearing it you can too transform into an evil God from your negative emotions Further proof: tree crown uses one of marx's attacks, those attacks don't actually belong to marx though, they are shared attacks between void and all soul bosses, but since this isn't a soul boss that means it must have a direct link to void. Conclusion: the master crown was imbued with void, not dark matter, it it was dark matter it would only be evil, but as we see landia can use it for good, just like how void can be turned good through positive emotions.
Considering that Void Termina uses master crowns in the laser and sword attacks. I believe that the RtDL Master Crown is a creation of void given a will of it's own So it isnt exactly dark matter, but it acts in a similar way
