Can you do one on the KL/KLZE DOHC V6 from Mazda. I assume there will already be an "iconic engines" on the rotary and BP. Everyone already knows about those. Most overlook the KL simply because they don't know about it. But you can fit it into small engine bays and make plenty of power NA, weight is comparable to a 4 cyl. It has a similar system to T-VIS instead of VVT. Built for 8k, limited to 7500 still a 250k-300k mile engine. One of the nice things about it, more than B18C power for around $1k . The limit is mostly the transmissions that bolt up to it. NA with the right ECU this 2.5l can match a WRX in an MX-6 or a Probe GT. I would like to someday swap one into a MKII MR2. Do the exhaust right and the sound of a KL is one of the best. Some nutter put one in a 944, turn it up! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-J71PC3tTj5c.html
@@pgtmr2713 I have to admit I don't know much about it either, just the basics. But now I'll definitely do an episode about it. The sound of the 944.. Wow!
Mivec is just a marketing name. The earliest mivec on the 4G9x is the same as the original VTEC as is the mivec on the 6A12 and the 6G72 and 6G74 The mivec on the 4G63 is VVT on just the intake cam and the mivec on the 6G75 is yet another system but just on the intake cam.
1magnit the VTEC we know as the "Kicked in Yo" version is definitely the one that has lift + everything else. So comparable to VVTL-i but with both intake and exhaust (I dont remember if the 2ZZ had both but the naming schemes were always weird on this so...). Although MIVEC is even harder to distinguish as VTEC or VVTL-i systems, it never touches cam lift which brings it totally apart from the other manufacturers. Oh wait did the 4B11T have lift? I dont remember
Driving 4 Answers has been the absolute best find during the pandemic! Thank you for your great episodes on the 4AGE, the 2ZZ, and now the 4G63. You hit all of the technical and emotional aspects of these fantastic engines in a perfectly balanced way! Thank you for putting these all together! An easy decision to subscribe to your channel!
Completely agree with the segment about guys blowing the 4g63 up while tuning. The guys who tuned my evo 9 were TRYING to blow up their shop 8mr (as they had a built 2.3 ready to drop in) and wanted to see what the stock block could handle. With only head studs said they were running 45 psi with no failures.
I got my first 4G63 in a 1992 Eagle Talon TSi/AWD. Owned many of these since 1997 and I'm still impressed by the overengineered little iron block lump.
Please take care of it. There’s gonna come a time in my lifetime where those aren’t gonna exist anymore, not in good shape anymore. Would love to own a Manual AWD DSM car, but you can’t find any stock ones in decent shape unless you wanna pay Jay Leno money.
I have a 1991 DSM turbo AWD and I love it. I always loved beating almost everything in stop light drag races. Now what I love even more, is all the young people have no idea what it is when they see it. The huge FMIC grabs their attention, then I get a "WTF is that? A Sylvia?" And I'm like " nope, it's a DSM!" The confused look on their faces is priceless!😂
Once you have owned one and you hear one coming down the street you know what engine it is , it's unmistakable. 900kg 300hp Cordia Turbo 1G 6 bolt 4G63T 💪
Crankwalk was multifactorial. The 1st gen 4G63T had oil squirters for the pistons. The 2nd gen changed the design with the addition of a valve to the oil squirters. They were to open only at a certain rpm/load. That valve would fail. And thus you'd get low oil pressure at idle due what was essentially an internal oil leak at the pressure side of the system. Over time this would prematurely wear the thrust bearings. Usually more on the side that was being pressed on by the actuation of the clutch. Which brings to the other main reason. Which was aftermarket clutch assemblies. The aftermarket solution at the time was usually to use high pressure pressure plates. I.E. the ACT 2600lb clutch kit. At 2600 lbs of force everytime you shifter you were putting a lot of load on the crankshaft by way of the diaphragm. This combined with failing oil squirters would cause thrust bearings to fail often. Obviously lack of normal maintenance would cause this too. But the 1st gen engine simply didn't have this problem because it just didn't have that oil squirter design. Crankwalk was real. And it was a stupid design change to an otherwise bulletproof engine. Did it happen to every 2nd 4G63T? No. But mostly because when it did it was lack of maintenance and or modification. But nevertheless it was a flaw in the design. It was a failure point that was easily preventable.
Also 1st gen engines are referred to as the 6 bolt. And 2nd gens as the 7 bolt. Named after the fact that 1st gens had 6 fasteners for the flywheel to crankshaft assembly. The 2nd gens 7.
@@thefinalroman Probably it has too much power without rebuilds considering that its 4 Cylinder cast iron it can hold 500 maybe 550 but reliably 400 just to be save and it also depends on what Evo its in
@@thefinalroman My 9 second galant vr 4 has driven to the dragstrip over a 100 times and made it home every time. And no Mustang Viper Camaro or any other pile of crap has beat me while I'm there. Feel free to watch my videos of Hellcats getting beat on.
@@skippysvr4586 unless you have videos on your Channel or any other proof I know for a fact you're lying those 4g63s under high boost are only good for a couple of runs till something blows up. Used to see them oiling down the track constantly now they're mostly dead. And don't get me started on the front diffs exploding on the GSX's
Some people don't know how good and legendary this motor is. Yet they be subaru guys with boxer engine or guys with 4b11 comparing themselfs with the 4g. Lmao. 4g is like the 2jz cousin.
I believe 4g63 is an iron block engine so its somewhat obselete because it will make the evo not handle as well as the flat low aluminum subaru engine even if its way more durable
@@lollol-xp4mc Not really, a Subaru boxer does have a lower centre of gravity but also sits forth more of the front axle which is why Subaru tend to understeer alot more. So you're completely wrong, yes lower is better but not when it's mounted so far forward.
I did an engine swap for a cust. that somehow had a turbo engine complete from a junk yard shipped from japan for his 91 Mitsubishi turbo Eclipse, what i did notice while doing the job that the Japan engine had a much lighter turbo as well as a twin vane.. the exhaust manifold also seemed to have a much smoother bore as well as different injectors and was all factory stock.. after completing the job i took it for a test drive and was shocked how much power that engine has, even the cust. noticed the difference.. so yes i agree that Mits. engine really is a winner...
Everytime I jump on your tube looking for advice on my 4age 20v I end up back at your channel, hands down the best channel on Toyota 4A engines on RU-vid keep up the great work 👍👍💯💯
There are tons of 4g63 from gallant vr4 halfcut transplanted and 4g63 evo1,2,3 into proton wira/satria/putra( lancer, mirage, lancer coupe) in malaysia. Mitsubishi engines had a big fan base in Malaysia, 4g63 were popular, along with 4g92,4g93 especially mivec versions of 4g92. Some people used 4g92 mivec head on 93 block, having the rev and highyflowing head on a block with same bore but bigger stroke. 4g15 were commonly found too. By what I meant popular, does not mean everyone is using it, but it was more of a topic during car conversations. And plenty of proton wira fully converted to evo 3 in Malaysia. Cheers
Building a 6 bolt with a 2g head... can't wait! Big shout out to Jafromobile youtube channel for his step by step information on building these beasts!
I owned a 99 DSM with a 4G63 that was BONE STOCK. I didn't beat on it, and I kept up with maintenance at the Mitsubishi dealership. By 70K miles the damn things crank had walked THREE TIMES. Yes, three times. By the third time, Mitsubishi was replacing basically everything under the hood to get it to stop, and I sold the car off. Since then, I've owned numerous cars ranging from the 2ZZ, K24, and my still owned 2009 MazdaSpeed3 with not a single engine issue.
@@DIRAVIdude I actually did a part on the Galant and a few other cars too and then edited it out. Video was a 28min with it, and that's too long for good viewer retention. So I just left in the stuff that was either funny or that people maybe didn't know about. Making this video was really hard honestly, as the 4g63 has so much history it's almost impossible to fit it into a single video. Here's another handkerchief, let it all out :)
I had a 97 Galant with a non turbo 4g63 and I remember filling up with petrol while 3 of my mates were in the car, I went and paid and got back in the car, went to turn the engine on and realised I hadn't even turned it off the whole time. Nobody had noticed the engine was still running it was so smooth.
The mivec you describe wasn't installed in the 4g63. It could only control the cam timing using a variable can gear. It had no control over the valve lift. The mivec name has been used for both systems.
New Zealand again. I had the mighty 4G63 in a 1989 Mitsubishi Eterna ZR4. It was basically a 5 door Galant VR4. Not bad. Fast no doubt. I was surprised it wasn't on the list but I don't think it was available everywhere.
The Astron Engines is still alive, the 4D56 NA 70ish HP for L300 up to CRDi VGT with 170hp for Montero Sport, and a Korean D4HA version for Hyundai Starex and Kia K2500.
I like the attention to detail and the in depth breakdown of engines that is done in these vids. Better than just saying "it was a bad a$$ engine that can crank out a bunch of hp" blah blah blah, it's not only showing love to the best engines out there, he breaks down the engines all the way to what made them strong and what weak points they might have had 👍
4g69 is another option, it can make similar power even with the original head. Low boost makes way more than you'd expect at 10.5:1 comp on stronger rods and pistons. Go stock if you want but your risk.
I’d be very interested in a video on the 6G74 and what Japanese tuners have done with non-turbo engine. How and what engineers at Mitsubishi engineered the EVO Pajero 3.5 atmo engine also.
A 4 cylinder engine with a big history probably even more than the 4g63 is the Volvo redblock 4g63 was also the first 4cylinder engine to go under 7 seconds on the 1/4 mile
Wish Proton make the Putra an AWD from the beginning. Us Malaysians could've get something of a coupe Evo. Since the old Proton use Mitsubishi chassis, the 4G63 can fit into almost any Proton model that was a rebadged Mitsubishi car. Our Wira use Lancer as base so this engine is popular for swap here.
@@danyyeager They were manufactured by mitsubishi, but it was part of a program called the Global Engine Manufacturing Alliance which was a joint development between Chrysler, Mitsubishi, & Hyundai, which is now entirely owned by Chrysler unfortunately who didnt really do much with it, ironically Chrysler made the worst engine of the bunch but each manufacturer took a basic platform and made adjustments to the base design and tweaked reliability, performance & efficiency for different market segments.
We got them in the USA on the mirage and dodge/plymouth colt, Eagle summit cars, the 4g15 was also used in the early Hyundai Excel and Scoupe, vary reliable fuel efficient engines, I would get 35-42mpg freeway, most of the time 37mpg on my tune, but they are actually a bit harsher then the 4g63t engines, if we got the dohc head in the US that would have been cool and might have made a smoother setup but we only got sohc heads on the 4g15 here in the states.
DSM/4G63 4Life 👍🏻 20 years playing with these cars and still going strong. So many good memories with these cars, Non 4G63/Mitsubishi people wouldn't understand or say we are BSing when we try to explain the capabilities of the mighty 4G63 until they see it with their own eyes in amazement 😆 I love these cars and the engine, will not change for anything 😉👍🏻
In highschool (about 2002) my buddy Matt had a 2nd gen eclipse spider. He was a manager at little Caesar pizza (now he is a regional manager). He swapped the stock turbo with one out of a diesel truck. Stock everything else... Yeah it only lasted a few days before it blew up lol. But thats back when dudes were running methanol in their windshield washer reservoir and routing the sprayer nozzle into their air box, and running a nitrous bottle in the passenger seat with a line straight into the air box as well.
100% chance of crankwalk if you install a heavy pressure clutch. That heavy clutch pulls on the crank and wears out the thrust bearing. Stock clutch is no problem with crank walk.
Back in the 90s, Group N rally cars that was so dominate was the Lancer Evo with 4G63 under the hood, simply, the other cars didn't had the natural excellent top speed as this engine, Group N back in the day only had about 240HP engine but the Evo drives like 340HP
Thank you so much. I bought an eclipse and the guy was running 28 psi 400hp. Not sure if that was wheel or crank. I was worried he did some serious damage but i guess these engines are near indestructible
The 4G63 is a 2JZ of four cylinder, it's indestructible, capable of 600 HP + with minor mods, much faster than Subaru's EJ25, Toyota's 3S-GTE, infact if this engine isn't any good, no other people's would swapped their boring compact car engine to this holy grail of four cylinder, when you give this engine with a anti-lag it would produce an awesome fireworks sound...
The very 1st car to use the dohc version of the 4g63 was the Mitsubishi Galant, which replaced the Starion in the WRC. During a successful run in the WRC, manufacturers were starting to use smaller chassis platforms to compete so Mitsubishi took the dohc 4g63 and AWD system in the Galant VR4 and stuffed it to a Lancer chassis and the Lancer Evolution was born.
You can talk on the 4g9 family as well it have some good high rev engines like the 4g92 or low cr turbo engines like the 4g93 and they can handle good power for such tiny engines 👌👌
You should talk about the 6B31 which is not really a performance engine but it is a solid and reliable engine that mitsubishi used for many years and i believe just recently a new version came out. Btw its a V6 3.0L MIVEC sohc engine. Great video's btw oh and keep the rap at the end of video's,they're very entertaining.
You forgot the 4g69😉.. It's also 2.4 like the 4g64 but the same deck height as a 4g63, so evo dohc head and timing belt can bolt straight on unlike the 4g64 which is 6mm taller. 4g69 also has 100mm crank like the 4g64's and 150mm rods like a 4g63 but you need to use something like a Wiseco K627M875AP forged piston which is slightly oversized needing an 87.5mm bore but has the correct comp ht and takes it from 2378cc to 2405cc. Plus a 4g69 short block here is about $70 lol
On my 280z i spliced into the kick down switch wiring, and sent that to the cold start valve. I also had the trigger wire for the alternator ran through the bright switch (on the floor) freeing up 3 or 4 hp lol.
I love your info and knowledge , I own a Mitsubishi station turbo that's got a 4G63BT. and it has the wildest looking crankshaft in it from factory, I'm just about to put my 4G into an Austin healy sprite for a laugh coz the station was good for 273 km per hour so the Sprite is about half the weight so it should be fun, that's until it kills me of course Keep up the movies you are very knowledgeable as are the movies. Many thanks Michael Cummings Australia 🇦🇺
As a celica owner I waited until today to watch this one...one of my biggest mistakes lol hilarious and entertaining. Ironically one of my favorites so far. Long live the ZZs tho!
The Orion can still run to this day. Our old first gen Proton Saga was slapped a Mitsubishi engine due to having Mitsubishi to aid in Malaysia's automotive industry back in the 80's. Kinda miss the day when we were with Mitsubishi though. We could've got ourselves our own Eclipse had Proton make the Putra AWD. This engine is perfect for it.
If we are in rally Japanese 4 cylinder theme and you are into Toyotas what about 3SGTE? Also there will be cool episode about Ford YB (Cosworth) engine - sort of European 4g63 Also worth of mention that crank walk might be caused by too aggressive clutch with very strong pressure plate and how to deal with that.
Heh, with the Mitsubishi Colt I never thought of the stars or the horse... The first thing that sprung to my mind was a revolver actually and the wild west... And second thought, the Colt M4 / M16 rifle... So it was a bad looking gun or 4 wheels.
19:07 I wouldn't do that. Seen a few jumped time or broken belt 4G63's where the lifter collapsed rocker turned saved the valves and pistons(left tiny line on cam lobe). Solid lifter would just allow piston valve destruction ruin head and block possibly. My machine shop guy said it's a common issue since all the ricers run no timing covers all the time even the lower one....
2:45 *IT* *IS* *NOT* *BORING* *LOOKING* *!* *!* *!* Some of my most favourite cars ever are of the "three box" 4 door variety, this Mitsubishi being one of them. My favourite of that style though is the N13 chassis Nissan Sunny/Pulsar made from the early 80's to the beginning of the 90's, look up the Langley Turbo for example. I've had a few N13's in the past and they really are great, in fact, any model of that car would do for me if it was in good working order and condition. 😉✌🏻
