Great simple idea. I mix my own but I actually blend the two gases into a separate cylinder using a 300bar filling whip (hose) and digital pressure gauge to add the desired partial pressure of each gas. Eg. 20bar of co2 with 180bar of Argon gives you a 10% argoshield mix.
Thanks 🙏 yes I looked into mixing straight into another bottle but the high pressures and expensive equipment put me off a little, this seams to work well for my needs though 👍 cheers
Was that a hose going from say your Co2 tank through the digital gauge & directly into the empty tank at 20bar. Then after the Co2 is finished repeat with argon at 180bar? Or does it have to be done together? I'm interested in having the capability of doing this, even if I 90% of the time I use Argos shield, I'd like to have the option as a fall back plan.
I have been mixing gasses for about 25 years, and with great results. The one thing I do different is to put a solenoid valve right at the flow meters so that the gasses are only flowing when the main solenoid valve in the welder is open. If you don't do this then there will be a slug of one gas or the other in the line when you start up. I will have to make a video of my set-up since there is nothing like it on RU-vid so far.
Yes I totally understand what you mean, just 2 solenoid valves wired in parallel to the internal one in the welder. I must say it would be beneficial when TIG for then first couple of seconds. Cheers 👍
@@CarJunkeez I have never tried mixing without the extra solenoid valves, it may be overkill. The way you are doing it with identical regulators, and I assume the low pressure gauge is set the same on both, may work perfectly. Sometimes I overthink these things and I don't want to discourage anyone from trying the mixing as you have presented it here. The results are what matters. It is something to keep in mind if there is some weirdness in the first few seconds of welding.
I really like this ideal but seems maybe a little expensive/difficult to setup? Do you think a small expansion chamber would be a cheaper/easier alternative with similar results? I was thinking something around 10 cu in, made from some PVC pipe and have the two gas supply inlets at one end and the outlet at the other end. I guess since you are having them feed at different pressures you would still need a check value which seems like with the solenoids are doing.
Thanks much for such an inspirational video! Ingenious! Was wondering how to do my own mix. And by a simple calculation in order to make Co2 25% and Argon 75% . C25 basically All we have to do is make a formula: I know that the full amount for MIG is 35 CFH ( or 16.5l/min) So my 100% welding gasflowrate is 35CFH then 25% out of it is: (35X25)/100=8.75 CFH (Co2 flow rate) And the rest is 26.25 CFH ( Argon flowrate). Together makes 35CFH!!!
Thanks man appreciated 😁 yea using the flow rate and maths you right you can mix quite accurately. The mixer tap is pretty much the same as the torch taps too. Just watched you videos on your welding exams over there, looks awesome bro, you have some good equipment over there 😮👍
@@CarJunkeez Yes the welding schools at BCIT and Kwantleen here in Vancouver Lower Mainland are the best! Yes I learned there a lot! Thanks. Was wondering there at your setup. Might flashback arrestors be necessary? (those valves that allow gas to flow just in one direction) I'm thinking if one cylinder is more emptier than the other therefore the cylinder with more pressure will push the gas into the one cylinder with less pressure maybe!? What do you think?
I’ve not had any problems as yet but I’ve not run low on gas so possibly when low, I suppose it wouldn’t do any harm in fitting them for peace of mind 👍
@@CarJunkeez I made my setup. Works fine without check valves ( Not flash back arrestors). The only difference that I made is I've put a bigger CO2 cylinder in case there might be a need to weld with straight CO2. Later on I have to make it more crazier by mixing 3 gases: Ar CO2 and Helium for stainless steel wire. But that is just for later on. For now I'm good with what I have.
Awesome man, yea good move on the 3 way mix too, some people over here use the helium on titanium exhaust. We tend to only use the small co2 bottles as we get them cheap as they are pub gas for bear 👍
Thanks for the video. I have been looking for information on mixing my own welding gas, but the info is hard to find. I will be setting up my own mixing setup similar to yours. Do you use check valves with the “Y” ? It looks like they aren’t necessary. .
Hi, no I don’t use another as this will affect the consistency or the other 2 if adjusted. I just use the 2 and add both levels together to give me the overall flow rate at the torch 👍
I got some bottles of c02 from a bankrupt night club and have been using it for mig welding but it keeps freezing the regulator and the pipe . Is there any way of stopping this from happening ?
I have had CO2 regulators frost up, but only when running a lot of volume while doing silly things like running an impact wrench. I have never had one frost up on my MIG setup. You might be running too much CFH by mistake. It's not likely, but some CO2 bottles have a siphon tube to draw liquid from the bottom of the cylinder, that would do it. Look on the tank for the word "siphon". I assume you have the tank upright. You could put a fan on it perhaps.
You are incorrect sir. 75/25 is the most commonly used mixture for short circuit transfer on materials up to about 1/4in. Any thicker and it is recommended to use spray transfer. Spray (also known as MAG: Metal Active Gas) requires at least 80% argon. 90/10 AR/CO2 and 98/2 AR/O2 are the most commonly used mixtures.
audioshooter hi, sorry if you find the video incorrect, I’ve used this configuration for a while now with no problems so works for me, I only tend to Mig sheet steel and if I was to weld 1/4 inch or thicker I tend to use stick, but thanks for the info it’s very useful
Hi, I got the mixer taps and some fittings fro R-tech same place I got my welders from but I had to get the other fittings from ebay like the Y adapter 👍
This is the Y adapter tap www.r-techwelding.co.uk/double-outlet-gas-valve-y-piece-right-hand/ And this is the Argon flow meter www.r-techwelding.co.uk/argon-flow-meter/ And this is similar to the Y brass connector rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F372751506709 Hope this helps pal 👍
They’d only do that if you was trying to mix before the regulator’s but as it’s being mixed after the regulator’s at a low pressure there’s no need for check valves as there’s no way the low pressure gas will force back into the regulator 👍