Mixing A Multi-Mic'd Cab with Manny Nieto

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@Producelikeapro 2 года назад

What are some of your microphones to use on guitar cabs? Share below!

@Sound_Stable 2 года назад

I pretty much only use SM57 or SM7B now. One on the edge of the cap of one speaker, and the other mic further out on the cone of another. I used to use Heil PR30s as well, but I feel those work best for warm clean amps and I mostly do high gain.

@andreirlmeier 2 года назад

MD 421 & DM 57 & Pencil Condenser ( only sometimes )

@MidlifeRenaissanceMan 2 года назад

I have a Marshall Valvestate 8080 combo. I put a cheap and nasty Citronics RM6 ribbon, where I removed the inner mesh, in front of it and it takes all the fizzy nastys out and doesn’t sound too shoddy.

@ChrisPetersGuitar 2 года назад

Shure SM57 cap cone edge, Shure KSM313 right up against the 57, on the cone. You have to ensure the two mics are phase aligned. They're about 3" from the grille cloth, and the cab has a very slight slant, so this probably results in 13 degrees off axis. This is basically the Ross Hogarth setup, except he uses the Royer 121 as the ribbon mic.

@snapascrew 2 года назад

Recently started sprinkling in an AKG c3000 (original not the new crap one). It’s helping me get the Adam Dutkiewicz fanboy tones. Mostly a 57. If you can’t get the tones you need out of a 57, vintage 421, and 121 then you’ve got other problems.

@billyhughes9776 2 года назад

My go to combo at this point is an SM57 and Beyer M160 on guitar cabs. I think they compliment each other really well. I recently tried Beyer M 88 TG for guitars and really dig that as well -- I generally use it as an kick out mic but it's super versatile.

@mannysmiclocker 2 года назад

Our Chavez Ravine record called “ Uno” that’s what I used. 160/57 wowza so heavy! Thanks for tuning in Billy.

@SinclairSound 2 года назад

Mannys tips are my favorite because it's so straight forward.. just really good recording techniques

@mannysmiclocker 2 года назад

Thanks Nate! Appreciated you checking out and hopefully make some of these technics your own. Maybe even get them to sound better!!! End game ;)

@Producelikeapro 2 года назад

Manny Rules! Another wonderful video with him!

@mannysmiclocker 2 года назад

You Rule for this wonderful platform! We are all in it together ;)

@DanielGlenTimms 2 года назад

Perfect timing. I was just trying some different mic combinations on my cabinet tonight. Great tips...thanks Warren!

@MadeOnTape 2 года назад

big fan. Recent Manny convert here 🖐 and always kudos to Warren for sharing the knowledge and experience

@mannysmiclocker 2 года назад

@@MadeOnTapeThanks for sharing MR Tape ;)

@richardvoid5180 2 года назад

@@mannysmiclocker one of my favorites along with the Thorpe and Launay vids. Keep em coming guys!

@eye_producer 2 года назад

I love how Manny does hardcore sounding stuff and its just a walk in the park for him

@mannysmiclocker 2 года назад

After maybe a thousand records I hope so Ha 1/2 hardcore . Appreciated the message and thank you.

@eye_producer 2 года назад

@@mannysmiclocker haha you rock you legend !

@jblacklogos 2 года назад

That guitar tone is totally awesome. The best I've heard in years. Great lesson Manny!

@Producelikeapro 2 года назад

Marvellous! Glad you like it!

@mannysmiclocker 2 года назад

Mav, Thank you for tuning in and hope your can do something great with these cool ideas for guitar recording.

@jblacklogos 2 года назад

@@mannysmiclocker Yes! I will definitely try that out and plug in my Octavia pedal. It has a similar sound to the Tentacle.

@BrandonWhalen 2 года назад

Can we talk about how badass this riff and tone sounds? Made even better with Manny’s impressive multi-mic skills. What song is this?

@mannysmiclocker 2 года назад

Well from the comments you need to speak with C Elam ;) Ha much appreciated the kind words Brandon. It was recorded on the fly off the top of my head. Yeah possibly could have been made more universally friendly but sometimes you gotta go places uncomfortable to Rock.

@legacyShredder1 2 года назад

@@mannysmiclocker "sometimes you gotta go places uncomfortable to Rock" I think that is perfectly said and often forgotten.

@dandelay8377 2 года назад

YES!!! Brilliant! Thank you, Manny! 🤘💚🤘

@mannysmiclocker 2 года назад

Thank You Dan! Appreciated the nice words my man!

@Producelikeapro 2 года назад

Yes! Manny Rules Dan!

@Producelikeapro 2 года назад

@@mannysmiclocker You Rock my friend!

@richardmcarthur40 2 года назад

All killer no filler with Manny, always! Thanks for this. I get tired arguing the case for mic’ing cabs with people who just want to plug their Kemper straight in, I might just send them this and let Manny do it for me!

@Producelikeapro 2 года назад

Manny is the man!!

@richardmcarthur40 2 года назад

@@Producelikeapro his course is minted too, in just put some of his drum tips to good use

@mannysmiclocker 2 года назад

Richard so great to hear and know we are all in it together. We appreciate your feedback and hope there is something cool in all the PLAP episodes. Yeah I can’t do the straight in unless we are doing Buddy Holy direct into a tube console ,) also mic the electric guitar same time! Sashhh too secret.

@richardmcarthur40 2 года назад

@@mannysmiclocker ha! I’ll jot that down! I’m working my way through your Pro Mix Academy course, brilliant stuff and really glad I pushed the button on it.

@JClay-lf7nx 2 года назад

That riff melted my face. Nice! 😃

@Producelikeapro 2 года назад

I love it!!

@mannysmiclocker 2 года назад

Yea! That means it worked Ha. Thrilled you enjoyed Clay ;)

@Producelikeapro 2 года назад

@@mannysmiclocker haha indeed!

@fl7210 2 года назад

Manny does it right

@adee2569 2 года назад

Love Manny Time!!!

@Producelikeapro 2 года назад

Yes! We do too!

@mannysmiclocker 2 года назад

It’s PLAP time :)

@Alien-qw5ks 2 года назад

That is just 🤘🤘guitar playing , and what a awesome guitar sound. Thanks for sharing this miking technique, love it. 😃

@mannysmiclocker 2 года назад

Thanks Allen for tuning in brother. Thrilled to offer some cool ideas for recording. It’s our life and fun to be creative. PLAP Rocks.

@splashesin8 2 года назад

Thanks Manny! 🌻

@mannysmiclocker 2 года назад

Back at you Audrey ;)

@Producelikeapro 2 года назад

You Rock Audrey!

@johanarens9798 2 года назад

Thank you so much Manny, I'm going to have some fun this weekend micing my guitars.

@mannysmiclocker 2 года назад

Yea! That’s our mission and feel free to share anything cool maybe I didn’t cover a out multi mic set up. Thanks for sharing Johan ;)

@johanarens9798 2 года назад

@@mannysmiclocker Hey Manny, for sure ! I;m going to reamp in order to do the various tests and combination, try with difference mic placement. I'm just eager to try with 2 SM57 (one straight, one angled,), my large diaphragm (AKG C2000B), and my small condenser, and add a room mic I might use my Dayton EMM-6 (not ideal, but this is what I have), The hardest thing to do is to document the result of the tests, in order to remember what did what :)

@mannysmiclocker 2 года назад

@@johanarens9798 I take pictures and use a ruler to show inches distance

@HitTheRoadMusicStudio 2 года назад

Manny, another killer tip, love your guitar tones, so juicy, heavy but with definition! My go-to Mic's are SM57, Lewit Mtp 440, Sennheiser 609 :)

@mannysmiclocker 2 года назад

Warren had mentioned I’d get to try out a Lewit soon so maybe I’ll experience your tone! Appreciated the kind words too

@Uskisman 2 года назад

Oso ona Manny! Incredible tips Manny! Love you

@mannysmiclocker 2 года назад

Thanks for sharing :)

@gagsmedia 2 года назад

Thanks Manny….Just got my cab setup and experimenting with mics.Thanks for sharing.

@mannysmiclocker 2 года назад

Excited to share some of my normal mic exercises. Have fun and use your ears not eyes ;)

@btsaints471 2 года назад

wow! now that was art!

@mannysmiclocker 2 года назад

Thanks BT for tuning in and we love this platform for always exciting insights to recording Via Warren and Co.

@themelodyexperiment 2 года назад

That was really great! Thanks for the tips.

@Producelikeapro 2 года назад

You’re very welcome! Manny rules!!

@mannysmiclocker 2 года назад

Totally appreciate this platform for a honest approach to recording. No smoking mirrors here thanks to Warren and Crue ;)

@Producelikeapro 2 года назад

@@mannysmiclocker You Rock my friend! Love what you do!

@johnsguitarmusicanddemos Год назад

*I definitely appreciate the tips that you given this video because I’m looking to run to microphones to catch my guitar sound.*

@compucorder64 Месяц назад

I realise it's an old video. But, killer guitar tone. I ended up settling on something similar. For dirty, tones, I usea JZ Vintage 67, and an old MD421. Then either a Beyerdynamic M160, or if that's tied up on drum overheads, I have these cheap active large ribbon Golden Age Project R1-A (I've heard Cascade Fat Heads are good for this too). I have a pair of those GAP R1-As, and they're good Blumlein for drum room, or amp room too, or even overheads or those smooth dark crooner vox you mentioned. That Warm Audio reissue of the AKG D19, the WA-19 is a nice 'trash' mic for knee mic, room/roof/floor/mic. Or can do Steve Albini (RIP) technique of getting a stereo omni, on the wood floor, way back from the amp or drums. I use a cheap pair from France called Earsight, that I got for field recording that are tiny and come prewired.

@ravigunslinger 2 года назад

great video! albini does the room mic pointing to the ceiling thing too. But he lays it on the floor! I'm definitely going to try the little delay trick. Re: phase.... if you find that you're having phase issues, rather than discarding a mic, can't you just nudge wave form in your daw until it's better phase aligned? That's what i do and it seems to work. I'd also love to hear Manny's/others thoughts on mixing a DI'd guitar with the mic'd signals. I've found that mixing an overdriven DI'd signal sort of makes it crackle a little, in a pleasing broken speaker kinda way!

@mannysmiclocker 2 года назад

Ravi, I do cut a DI sometimes for re amping and running into cool effects outside the box like a Leslie or fostex reverb box. There is a session I did for Warren’s recording academy I used Altec M11 on the floor like albini. Omnis can be super cool to mess with. I just went on EBay and picked up son 60s or 70s Akg D160 Omni dynamics . Fun to get different colors Thru mics not plug ins

@alexanderparfirov2942 Год назад

Guitar hypnotizes.

@whoakayno 2 года назад

Manny with the wealth of knowledge !!

@Producelikeapro 2 года назад

Manny is the man!

@mannysmiclocker 2 года назад

Thank you and may that wealth get me a new mic ;) AKG D19 Ha

@Producelikeapro 2 года назад

@@mannysmiclocker haha indeed! You Rock my friend!

@Joey-rp5vg 2 года назад

Fandabydosy and coolaboola. Great video. Thanks folks

@mannysmiclocker 2 года назад

Thanks for digging Joey!

@lilyrodriguez1490 2 года назад

1:38 that guitar riff 👀🔥

@mannysmiclocker 2 года назад

Appreciated the kind words Lily ;) Produce like a pro rules!!!!

@Producelikeapro 2 года назад

It’s fantastic isn’t it!

@Producelikeapro 2 года назад

Manny Rules!!

@fl7210 2 года назад

Wow what a heavy riff

@mannysmiclocker 2 года назад

Thanks FL! Heavier the better ;) appreciated you checking out and hopefully something resonated musically.

@Folk661 2 года назад

So much fun.

@Producelikeapro 2 года назад

Thanks ever so much! Manny Rules!

@mannysmiclocker 2 года назад

Thrilled you enjoyed.

@Folk661 2 года назад

Manny! I spent a year building an isolated control room in my basement studio, so that I could crank cabs in the other room and dial it in. There is something magic about making a 3D guitar tone using a cranked amp and a bunch of mics. Keep em comin!

@mannysmiclocker 2 года назад

@@Folk661 that’s so badass! So fun to have that control over the speakers.

@billyhughes9776 2 года назад

That is some wicked cool guitar tone right thar,...and a killer riff. That ribbon mic sounds so fat -- Love the room tone trick by simply shifting the take backward or forward. As per always -- Manny is the man!

@mannysmiclocker 2 года назад

Billy so thrilled you dug that and of course Warren and crew for always letting me do my thang Ha! Yes the ribbon blows my mind how thick and same time I did really like the condenser and dynamic detail. That’s the fun. Some people don’t like ribbons because of darkness and lack of mid range ( Beyer 160 rules for that ) so my mod brings a little back in. The room sound is something I do every record. Air not plug-ins is the secret of classic sounds my friend. Cheers mate.

@billyhughes9776 2 года назад

@@mannysmiclocker I own two Beyer 160s -- love these mics (for so many sources) and your ribbon reminded me of them but with more low-end/low-mid fatness. Gorgeous bro. Congrats. You're not only a recording guru but a microphone engineer/designer as well.

@mannysmiclocker 2 года назад

@@billyhughes9776 you are too nice my man! Yeah 160s true sleepers still.

@curtis_chip 2 года назад

awesome… cool cool !

@mannysmiclocker 2 года назад

Thanks for tuning in Curtis ;)

@Projacked1 2 года назад

Great lessons to be learned here....!!! And in imho , electronic producers should take some serious notes as well. The simplicity of it is almost humbling ....Manny rocks, period. That roar of the speakers...sheeeet

@mannysmiclocker 2 года назад

The speakers tell no lies ;) Thanks for sharing P!!!

@danielsalinas9124 2 года назад

I think I liked the sound of the two mics with room; without the ribbon because of the midrange

@mannysmiclocker 2 года назад

Me too! The ribbon is just for filler or low end . The detonation of the u67 off the charts. Thanks for sharing Daniel.

@danielsalinas9124 2 года назад

@@mannysmiclocker Thank you for the lessons!!

@Producelikeapro 2 года назад

Thanks Daniel!

@Producelikeapro 2 года назад

@@danielsalinas9124 Manny Rules!

@Producelikeapro 2 года назад

@@mannysmiclocker thanks for sharing!

@therecordfable 2 года назад

The phase is strong with this one.

@Producelikeapro 2 года назад

Yes! It certainly is

@mannysmiclocker 2 года назад

Phase is the Jedi way!

@therecordfable 2 года назад

@@mannysmiclocker 😎 Killer stuff Manny.

@mannysmiclocker 2 года назад

@@therecordfable Thanks M!

@Producelikeapro 2 года назад

@@mannysmiclocker haha indeed!

@TheRealHucasys 2 года назад

Cool, I like a lot of bottom end on my guitars, like this one, but it is going into bass frequencies territory, so I would've liked to see how he would manage that within a mix, with a bass or even a synth, I know it's not the point of the video, but leaves me with that doubt.

@mannysmiclocker 2 года назад

Dani, I’ll always check with a ssl eQ and cut any boom from the low end if it sucks up too much low frequency’s . Also the Senn doesn’t have really that bottom so I can lean in on that instead. Yes mixing this Godzilla tone is a challenged and I’ve spent 22 years dealing with it my first band Distortion Felix ( Juan Alderete on bass of TMV) and my current band The Chavez Ravine with ( Mando Lopez ) on bass. Huge sounds both those cats so yes a challenge .

@TheRealHucasys 2 года назад

@@mannysmiclocker Awesome, thanks Manny! Be well.

@tsargoyle 2 года назад

The riff is the best part about this whole thing. Dirty.

@Producelikeapro 2 года назад

Yes! Marvellously dirty!

@mannysmiclocker 2 года назад

Wicked isounds are always close to my heart in capturing lightning in a bottle.

@CosmicSoupRecordingAZ 2 года назад

Great video!! Unrelated question. Can someone tell me. Why is the lettering RED on some plugins and tracks but not others? Thank you!!

@celam1244 2 года назад

I believe those are set for automation.

@fischersen_85 2 года назад

Don’t think so. In Reaper different colors means that the single plugins are deactivated/bypassed. I think that’s what „red“ means here

@Diablo89 2 года назад

It means it’s been clipped into the red, in Pro Tools a deactivated plugin is dark blue

@CosmicSoupRecordingAZ 2 года назад

@@Diablo89 thank you!! that was driving me crazy

@Diablo89 2 года назад

@@CosmicSoupRecordingAZ Or rather it’s been clipped and he hasn’t clicked the red light to remove it yet, “clip indicator sticking” is an option in PT

@Bring_MeSunshine 2 года назад

You wouldn't take that tone home to meet your mother, would you? Fabulous. Grabbed at the source, then you don't need plugins. Another Manny Marvel 😁

@Producelikeapro 2 года назад

Haha exactly!!

@mannysmiclocker 2 года назад

If your mom is 55 yes sir! Ha thank you again for the kind words. Warren and Crue rocks

@king-kore-studio 2 года назад

That tone is so nasty to the point to where i can't stop listening to it!!

@keithferris9574 2 года назад

Yes!!!!!

@Producelikeapro 2 года назад

Haha agreed!

@Producelikeapro 2 года назад

Yes, indeed Keith!

@OneEyedOracle 2 года назад

Swear, just last night was gonna look up micing guitar amps in PLAP today, flowing today with love. Blasted pre-amps though, studio needs a basic one to get serious. Why wouldn't an sm57 work given that is what is used live around the globe? Blesses, B

@legacyShredder1 2 года назад

What preamp are you running through? If it's an interface preamp which brand is it? You can get very serious with very little.

@OneEyedOracle 2 года назад

@@legacyShredder1 Thanks ManN for your help. I am going through an edirol UA-25 direct, but typically only record bass direct, but want to be able to expand and get viable results than booking studio time. What do you suggest to mic an amp with a sm57 and vocals with a sm58, :) thanks again, and I'm seriously on a tight budget?

@legacyShredder1 2 года назад

@@OneEyedOracle You can use the SM57 and SM58 interchangeably. They are so close to the same microphone that it won't matter much. 57 is fantastic on guitars, any instrument really. A 58 is fantastic on voice, but so is a 57. What DAW are you using? I want you to download the free Bass Sans Amp plugin to add beef and saturation to your DI Bass. It also works great for adding analog sound to other instruments and vocals.

@legacyShredder1 2 года назад

@@OneEyedOracle If you haven't got your mics yet, I would personally get the Lewitt LCT 240, a condenser mic. IF you already have those two mics that's okay too. If not get the Lewitt.

@legacyShredder1 2 года назад

The best way to get recordings that will pop out is to sound treat your room you're recording in. If you're on a super tight budget use blankets to isolate your guitar amps/speakers. Set up chairs with piles of clothing near the mic. If you're doing vocals drape up blankets behind yourself and the microphone. If you have a closet in the room with clothes hanging up inside, open the doors to absorb reflections. Stuff a few piles of clothes in the corners of the room as bass traps. If you have couch pillows prop them up against the walls. Reduce reflections as much as possible. If you eliminate the room you're left with a good microphone, the instrument, and the voice which is exactly what you want.

@heinzvoll7798 2 года назад

That title pic is hilarious ... English is not my first language, but wouldn't a "MULTI MICED CABINET" be something lika a cabinet with multiple mice in it ...?

@mannysmiclocker 2 года назад

Heinz I think you are correct but it’s meant more of kinda studio slang. It’s like smeared english Ha like I Would have said “ multi Mic’s on my Rig” ha. But! Maybe we change it to the Heinz way which I’m not against ;)

@heinzvoll7798 2 года назад

@@mannysmiclocker That comment of mine wasn't meant to be taken too seriously in the first place 😉 Anyway, great video. Cheers!

@mannysmiclocker 2 года назад

@@heinzvoll7798 u da best Homie!

@ianperry5522 2 года назад

My neighbors were not prepared for this lesson and the volume at which I played it. (My head phones were broken). Not sorry.

@Producelikeapro 2 года назад

Haha very nice indeed

@mannysmiclocker 2 года назад

Sounds like the neighbors got Rocked PLAP styles ;)

@Thenit92 2 года назад

Mice!!!😂 the debate is reignited! Mikes😂

@Producelikeapro 2 года назад

Personally I prefer Hot Rats! A la Frank Zappa!

@manjuladarji5385 2 года назад

🕌

@TheRealHucasys 2 года назад

Where are the files? :(

@mannysmiclocker 2 года назад

My bad Dani, after this video we lost them in the shuffle but this week I’ll be getting them to Warren and Crue. Thanks for inquiring.

@TheRealHucasys 2 года назад

@@mannysmiclocker Oh ok, cool, thanks for replying!

@celam1244 2 года назад

Did you have to use the least pleasing guitar line in existence?

@mannysmiclocker 2 года назад

We did sorry. I was talking it over w Crue and said lets use that one and we all agreed Ha Thanks for tuning in regardless C. Next time I’ll try to bring a more pleasing line for my Homie C styles. Cheers Mate ;)

@Producelikeapro 2 года назад

@@mannysmiclocker Haha I LOVE it! But heck I love obscene guitar playing! There's a great quote from Frank Zappa talking about that!