MixPre 10T: My Impressions After 2 Months (Final Review)

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Sound Devices added some nice options to the prosumer audio recorder market earlier this year with the introduction of their MixPre-3 and MixPre-6. And now, they’ve added the MixPre-10T which takes the MixPre line legitimately into the professional recorder realm for $1800 USD. After working with the MixPre-10T for a couple of months, these are my impressions and thoughts.
Links to gear discussed and used to record this session:
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Sound Devices MixPre Series Recorders (II Series)
B&H, Sweetwater: geni.us/O8e0
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Orca OR-280 sound bag
B&H: bhpho.to/3apvZoO
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Samsung USB Thumbdrive:
Amazon: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01...
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Sandisk Extreme Pro SD Card I use in my MixPre-10T and 633
Amazon: geni.us/zOCzF9
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Sennheiser MKH 8050 Supercardioid Boom Microphone
B&H: bhpho.to/2zozur3
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Adapter Cable for Mini XLR outputs (TA3F to XLRM)
B&H: bhpho.to/2zyul33
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AC to Hirose Adapter (useful if you plan to use this as an audio interface)
B&H: bhpho.to/2A9MUH9
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Sound Devices MixPre Battery Sled for Sony NP-F Style Batteries
B&H: bhpho.to/2zxkhHr
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NP-1 Style Battery
B&H: bhpho.to/2BWvcss
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NP-1 Battery to Hirose Adapter
B&H: bhpho.to/2BYn1w1
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Anton Bauer Battery (I keep this on hand as a backup - its big but can save the day)
B&H: bhpho.to/2D4z367
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V-mount Battery (Same as above but with a different mounting mechanism for cameras)
B&H: bhpho.to/2BXgnpE
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Copyright 2017 by Curtis Judd
Ethics statement: Some of the links above are Amazon.com, B&H Photo, or other affiliate links.

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@guppyfisk 5 лет назад

Dear Curtis, it is always a pleasure to see your decent and gentle produced videos. Very informative, and always a good source for technical recherches. So thanks a lot for your efforts and work. Very appreciated. Kind regards Frank

@curtisjudd 5 лет назад

Thank you Frank.

@stlaudiosounddesign260 Год назад

Excellent review. Not only am I sold on this device, but I'll be paying attention to everything you post. Thank you for this and cheers!

@curtisjudd Год назад

Happy recording!

@alexandersakharov4446 6 лет назад

Thank you Curtis for the great review! Merry Christmas!

@curtisjudd 6 лет назад

Thanks Alexander, Merry Christmas to you!

@TomasVillegas 6 лет назад

Great review Curtis. Definitely something I'm going to look into more.

@curtisjudd 6 лет назад

Thanks Tomas, I hope you had a great holiday!

@spandana_music 6 лет назад

Great review as usual, Curtis. And the Season's Greetings to you!

@curtisjudd 6 лет назад

Thanks and Seasons Greetings to you!

@charlesisrecording 6 лет назад

I was thinking on getting a 633 as my first SD but after seeing this I'll go with the 10T for a few reasons: 1) it's a Sound Devices 2) I'm not in a pro level that requires a 633 and I don't record films (movies) yet 3) it has all the features and some that I need and might need Thank you Curtis for your videos, I've waited for this one in particular, now I can save money and get better mics and better sound. The 633 will be mine later down the road.

@curtisjudd 6 лет назад

Thanks Carlos, solid reasoning! Happy recording!

@theaarondadshow6142 6 лет назад

Thanks for this review,very helpful!

@curtisjudd 6 лет назад

👍

@markmontdot 6 лет назад

Man...these reviews are very solid. Production value, provide the right amount of information, quality products reviewed...big fan. Do you also teach? Hell I’d be willing to travel across states just to take a few sessions - feel like it would be more productive then taking any local classes.

@curtisjudd 6 лет назад

Thanks Markmont. I do have some online classes over at school.learnlightandsound.com

@horstkern4810 6 лет назад

Great Review, I like your objective work. It is always a good help for choosing the right equipment for my work. Best regards from good old Germany Horst

@curtisjudd 6 лет назад

Thanks Horst! Greetings from California!

@joshuakthompson 5 месяцев назад

Excellent summary!!

@curtisjudd 5 месяцев назад

👍

@thelinthicums3295 6 лет назад

Merry Christmas and thank you for the continued excellent instruction. All the best in 2018.

@curtisjudd 6 лет назад

Thanks and Merry Christmas to you!

@ikereed6847 6 лет назад

Thank you so much for showing a screenshot of your I/O settings. 6ms for 64 samples @ 48 kHz is not too shabby. It certainly holds its own against many prosumer dedicated interface devices operating on the USB 3.0 standard. Definitely worth getting my hands on one and putting it through its paces with my setup. (maybe even have it go head-to-head against my presonus for an upcoming project). This was a great overview. While watching, I could begin to visualize shedding so much gear that's holding me down to one location (yes, it's a basement 😝 [BLECH!]).

@curtisjudd 6 лет назад

Thanks Ike. One other thing I forgot to include which is a minor annoyance if you’ll be using powered monitors and don’t have a separate monitor controller: you will have to jump into the output menu and the access the gain menu every time you want to adjust the volume. For this reason it may not be the best daily use interface, but I find it to be quite good as a mobile interface when using headphones.

@ikereed6847 6 лет назад

Oh, yeah. I didn't think about that. As other comments have suggested for other things, I wonder if this might be a job that wingman could handle. In any case, that's certainly something for me to look into and work into the equation. Thanks!

@JamesLevineAndSons 6 лет назад

Merry Xmas (home sick so this was a perfect passtime) 1) thank you for giving a nod to the tracking/vocal comping scenario. The important thing to realize, I think, in this scenario is any device, even thunderbolt, will accrue latency that will effect performance timing IF monitoring is done internally. Even the buffer size that you tested in may not be a realistic setting for some people due to playback dropouts. If rather the playback mix is brought into the monitors on the mixpre in this example and the vocals are monitored directly, then you'll get a direct response to your performance and the DAW should take care of the rest-necessary delay compensation, etc. Does it have a compressor or just a limiter? EQ? 2) That's neat about the keyboard. A leg up, I think, to the Zoom series which requires the fader controller in order to access a USB keyboard. Not to mention their software is almost completely about the transport and offers no additional functions for changing track names, notes, etc. 3) Great to know you can free up a tentacle sync for another camera, smart slate, or whatever... 4) About the headphone knob, I can see how that would be annoying if the bag then needs to have that much more margin on the side or that the cable becomes harder to distinguish with the other runs out the bag. You'd almost want to rewire your cans with a right angle connector. But my concern is that the knob will be bumped over the course of the day. I guess even that's not a big issue, but for me having a separate mixer than recorder all these years, the headphone out was at least part of how I'd match volumes on a return and how I'd rule out any additional preamp noise from the recorded signal. Is it a quiet headphone amp?

@curtisjudd 6 лет назад

Thanks James and hope you feel better soon. The 10T has just a limiter, no compressor or EQ aside from a high pass filter. Good point re keyboards and the Zoom. The Zoom app does offer facilities for metadata entry, though I prefer the way SD has laid out their app. On the flip side, Zoom’s app does offer the ability to adjust gain and faders. Happy holidays!

@Blewis-Diarrheo 6 лет назад

Such a concise and informative review! After you get spoiled by 3ms roundtrip latency on certain RME cards, it's hard to want to go to 6ms, even if it's a negligible difference. Either way, a part of me wants to get one of these.

@curtisjudd 6 лет назад

Thanks Idorio. Yes, I’d go with this if field recording is a priority but still use my Antelope Audio in studio.

@Evermore2017 6 лет назад

I wish every RU-vidr followed this model for their reviews. For all those who want great tech reviews, MobileTechReview is the best and much like Curtis. I have no affiliation with her or even know her but, she follows Curtis’ style. Thank you for no bloat or fluff. So appreciated.

@curtisjudd 6 лет назад

Thanks!

@matthiaskrause1155 6 лет назад

Thanks for the review. I believe the headphone knob issue could actually be improved by a firmware update: One of the front knobs could be assigned to adjust the headphone volume if the fader is not needed for the preamp. I imagine instead of setting the respective input to mic, line, USBx etc. it could be assigned as headphone knob. I use the MixPre-6 and am very happy with it so far.

@curtisjudd 6 лет назад

Another interesting possibility. Thanks!

@sobk718 6 лет назад

Curtis appreciate you I'll have decided to go with this instead of the zoom f8 for podcasting this video just helped in that decision along with rode procaster mics...

@curtisjudd 6 лет назад

Good luck with your podcast, Carter!

@victorfilm_ 4 года назад

Curtis, the mark II just released. I’m curious to hear your thoughts. Perhaps a review and comparison? Just an idea for a future video. 😬👍

@curtisjudd 4 года назад

Hi Victorfilm, we'll be doing a live session over on my Curtis Judd Audio channel in 15 minutes talking about the MIxPre II Series.

@opentoe1 5 лет назад

Hey Curtis thank you for all of your post always informative..."would you recommend the zoom f8n or the mix pre 10t? " would or could you do a comparison.

@curtisjudd 5 лет назад

Hi David, I personally would keep the MixPre if I could only keep one of them. In terms of audio quality, they're very similar though some with audiophile ears claim that the MixPre sounds better. It does sound a tiny bit "warmer" than the F series but that is generally only detectable on very good headphones or monitors. Biggest differences between the 2 from my point of view is the price. I prefer the ergonomics of the MixPre but wish that it had a bigger screen and that the headphone/menu knob was on the front rather than the back. If you need mobile app control, Zoom is iOS only, Sound Devices supports both iOS and Android. Zoom works with their proprietary F-Control, MixPre works with several less expensive third party controllers. MixPre has analogue limiters, F8n has hybrid limiters which raise the noise floor. So I'd go MixPre, but there are plenty of people who I respect who would go Zoom F8n. There isn't a clear winner, unfortunately. Or fortunately, depending on how you look at it. :)

@Gregg0Palmer 6 лет назад

Great Review! I would like to see headphone volume adjustment from within the menu instead of the rotary switch on the side, capability to adjust limiter parameters, capability to do all selections from the menu/touchscreen instead of having to use the rotary switch on the side. One thing you did not touch on is the horrible placement of the hirose power connector.

@curtisjudd 6 лет назад

Thanks Gregg! Volume adjustment in the menu and on the app are both good ideas. Interesting thought on limiter parameters as well. I actually find the the hirose angle works nicely in my Orca OR-30 bag. In fact I think it works better than the 633 or Zoom F8’s hirose inputs on the side panel. The reason it works is that I’ve got the mixer sitting on one of the spacer cushions. Happy holidays!

@simongentry 6 лет назад

Curtis - picking one of these up for a gig in dublin. i currently have the shure sm7b and a senn mke600 - at some point i'll be getting a senn 416 but i noticed you used an MKH 8050 which sounded smooth warm a constant signal. i'll be using the mixpre 10t to capture live audio off of a board, and atmospheric sounds to add in post - does this all seem a decent set up? i'm using with my red epicw and an abox - the cloud lifter is needed with the pres in the mixpre 10t? many thanks as usual - great and easy to understand the reasons to get and why one might not want to get. simon

@curtisjudd 6 лет назад

Hi Simon, Sounds like a nice kit, should serve you well. Technically should not need a cloud lifter, but the 7B will require a lot from the preamps. If you've already got one, it's worth experimenting to see which way will work best for you. With my EV RE20, I usually gain up to around 60dB and that works fine but that puts the peaks around -18dBFS. Best wishes!

@huyked 5 лет назад

Hi Curtis, Thank you for the two videos on this recorder, of course. I have a question regarding the glowing rings around the adjustment knobs. If your levels should peak (possible?), or are too loud, does the ring light shine red, or stay red, showing that you've overloaded the signal? Or does it not because of the great analog limiters? Second question regarding the ring light. Are we able to set that to not light, or dim how much it shines, for those times when the set is dark?

@curtisjudd 5 лет назад

Hi huyked, The ring LEDs flash yellow/orange when the limiter is engaged for that channel, red when clipping occurs. Also, the meters on the screen also indicate the same with a little colored segment at the top of the meter and remains red when clipping occurred on that channel. You can dim the ring LEDs and screen for shooting in darker sets, thought you cannot turn them totally off. I hope that helps!

@huyked 5 лет назад

@@curtisjudd That helps very much! Thank you so much for taking the time to answer my questions! You rock! 🤘

@iacovos 6 лет назад

Hi Curtis! I'm getting ready to get either this or the Zoom F8. I'm torn between the analog limiter of the Sound Devices and the dual sim recording of the Zoom F8. Which do you find most important based on your experience. Ever had sim cards get corrupted and lose the material? Thank you.

@curtisjudd 6 лет назад

Hi, Go with your intuition, they're both great. I prefer the sound of the SD preamps, but it is only noticeable on very high quality playback speakers/monitors. The 10T automatically backs up to a USB thumb drive in real time so I am perfectly comfortable using it for serious jobs. I have had a CF card get muddled and temporarily fail, though I was able to recover all of the clips. I also had a very old SD card fail in one of my cameras. If shooting professionally, I think it is good practice to purchase new cards about once a year. Fortunately for sound, a 16 or 32GB card can easily get you through an entire production day. The F8's limiters are actually decent as well. I recently learned that they are hybrid analogue/digital in that they reduce the gain by 10dB and then add that back in the digital stage. This works well since the preamps are quite clean. In the end, they're both great. I'd probably trust SD more for situations where I encountered the need for repair services. But I haven't had any quality issues or need for repair with my Zoom recorders over the years and I've had the F8 for over 2 years now.

@iacovos 6 лет назад

Thank you Curtis, once again you've been most helpful! I did not know about the Hybrid limiter part. This convinces me to go with the F8 since it's also cheaper. I don't need the preamps to be perfect but from your other videos I can see that the F8 preamps are pretty good too. At the moment I'm using the Zoom H6 and would like an upgrade on those preamps, as they are a bit on the noisy side. Thank you once again, have a great day :)

@SoundOfYourDestiny 6 лет назад

What difference did you notice in the preamps? I got the F4 and am happy with it so far. I consider its robust power-input connector and built-in TC generator huge advantages over the cheaper MixPres, but I really like the features of the 10T. I do think the redundancy is still an issue, since having a thumbdrive (even a small one) hanging out of a USB port on a portable device is hokey and asking for damage to the port. But anyway, the preamps....? Great reviews, by the way.

@curtisjudd 6 лет назад

The difference I heard in dialogue recordings was a slightly warmer low end but it was very, very slight.

@SoundOfYourDestiny 6 лет назад

Thanks for the reply.

@ilyakurtov9515 4 года назад

Hello Curtis , could you please make a short video review about editing metadata during record, after, naming shots and so on (you know this problems when you on set) and also how ergonomic comfortable is the soloing chanels during recording?

@curtisjudd 4 года назад

Hi Ilya, we have done that as part of the MixPre Course. If we get time, perhaps we'll do a short version as well.

@alphaandomegaproductions5073 6 лет назад

Good point with the headphone knob. I know you joked about fixing it with a firmware update, BUT I wonder if they could add a headphone volume adjustment to the wingman app? And if they could, maybe they could add gain adjustments to the app?

@Jon_Oates 6 лет назад

I agree. Gain adjustments via Wingman would be very useful, but I assume not be possible because of the encoders.

@curtisjudd 6 лет назад

Great idea! Or the touchscreen on the MixPre.

@Bryster51 6 лет назад

Hi Curtis, Does the timecode clock sync with the Wingman app as far as real time settings are concerned? You mentioned below that a seperate timecode device is not needed for the 10T. Which got me thinking on how it gets set/updated. Thanks!

@curtisjudd 6 лет назад

Hi Bryster51, The Wingman app displays the timecode by wirelessly obtaining the current timecode from the MixPre, but there is not a way to reset or change the timecode from the Wingman app. This is done in the MixPre-10T's menu. At power-on, the 10T appears to seed the timecode generator from the MixPre's real-time clock. Of course you can override that by manually setting the timecode clock or jamming from an external generator via the BNC timecode input. I hope that answers your question.

@gavinharwell 6 лет назад

In regards to the usb recording, when you use wingman app to edit names of files, will those files be renamed onto that usb thumb? If so, that seems rather helpful to post folks. I find renaming on the F4 a task... Thanks.

@curtisjudd 6 лет назад

Hi Gavin, yes, name changes are applied to both the SD card and USB thumb drive.

@Mile26point2films 6 лет назад

Hey Curtis, Just curious what size audio bag do you have or recommend for the MixPre 10T, also does the LR Gain control the audio levels of the entire device?

@curtisjudd 6 лет назад

Hi Alejandro, I use the Orca OR-30: bhpho.to/2i4G1iP The LR Gain controls the level of the main XLR outputs (TA3-M for L and R on the right panel of the 10T)

@davidpitt5163 6 лет назад

Good lighting on this episode. I find the file transfer function on the Mix Pre 3 quite slow. I use the twin lead and 2 x USB 3 sockets on my monitor to drag and drop the files to the desktop. The power switch is awkward too especially when using USB C power. I hope the USB back-up while recording facility will be available on the Mix Pre 3. I get noise when adjusting the gain above 70db. Other than that this is a great piece of kit.

@curtisjudd 6 лет назад

Thanks David. Good to hear your experience with the MixPre-3.

@jaredjaynes 5 лет назад

Curtis quick question I was playing with a mix pre 10t that was a back up on a film I was working on, the side nob is a big problem we found also seemed to be the only way to adjust the gain on each channel and the front faders can not be switched over to adjust gain, seems silly, are we missing something or did you find this a problem as well.

@curtisjudd 5 лет назад

Hi Jared, just about the only thing I don’t like about the MixPre series is that main encoder on the side rather than the front. If you were in advanced mode, which it sounds like you were since the front knobs were acting as faders, the two ways to set the gain after you select it in the menu is with the side encoder or with the touch screen. If in basic mode, then the knobs on the front are gain trim controls.

@markuslenz9984 6 лет назад

It is really good.

@curtisjudd 6 лет назад

👍

@Nacho.100 6 лет назад

Well Im having the same problem with the Headphone knob in my mixpre6 using an Orca28 sound bag. Maybe Sounddevices should add an option to control the headphone lvl by using the touchscreen.

@curtisjudd 6 лет назад

Yes, or the app :)

@Dam-ft2jb 2 года назад

Hi Curtis. Thank you for the great video! I will record some interviews and I’m going to use shotgun mic and wireless. (Wireless is used just in case.) Each of devices will connect with MixPre’s 1, 2 channel and if the dialogue is recorded in the same way, how can I monitor this sound? Can I listen to each channel separately during the playback?

@curtisjudd 2 года назад

Yes, you can "solo" each input channel by pushing on the channel knobs for each or you can set your headphone routing to hear whichever combination you choose.

@brianknight8195 5 лет назад

I use it as a main recorder often. Re:headphone knob and jack issues: 1. How about using an angle adapter for the phone jack? 2. How about some airline tubing over the knob (fitted while pressed in) to access it outside the bag?

@curtisjudd 5 лет назад

Could help as work-around solutions, indeed.

@brisci 5 лет назад

So I have been thinking about the Mix-Pre 6 vs the 10T. Am I correct in an assumption that the 6 will take TC from a Tentacle box or similar, but it would always have to be attached in use. And that the 10T can work like this, or it can be the source TC "Master" and feed the TC box its TC and then that jammed box can go to the camera. Which would mean I need one less box depending on the shoot. Also the 3.5 mm is TC input only, not an output, you use the BNC on the 10T for that.

@curtisjudd 5 лет назад

Hi Brian, yes, that is correct on all counts.

@jodydowdall2929 3 года назад

Thanks for this final review Curtis, really appreciate your in-depth videos. I’m curious, aside from the dedicated gain and fader knobs the 633 offers, what would you say are the main reasons this is a backup recorder and not a primary recorder? I’m really on the fence between the 633 and Mixpre 10 ii as a primary recorder. Have a 788T/CL-8 at my disposal right now but looking to cut some weight (and save my back), plus I find with jobs I’m doing it’s a bit of overkill. Thanks!

@curtisjudd 3 года назад

Hi Jody, I think it can be a primary recorder for many people. Since I shot this, I have upgraded to the 888 and the MixPre-10 II is my backup. The more flexible routing of the 6xx and especially the 8xx series are why they are my main recorder. But if you don't need that and are good with a touch screen and smaller knobs, I think the MixPre-10 could work nicely.

@jodydowdall2929 3 года назад

Curtis Judd Thanks for the info. Really appreciate your reviews and knowledge. Keep it up.

@jodydowdall2929 3 года назад

Curtis Judd There is one thing I forgot to ask. Living and working in Canada I see both extremes for weather throughout the year. I’ve had a 633 out all day in blazing heat, as well as below freezing conditions with no issue. Are you aware of/have you run into any limitations in regards to operating temperatures with the MixPre series at all? I’m about ready to go with the 10 ii, but this could be a deal breaker. Thanks Curtis, any insight is much appreciated.

@curtisjudd 3 года назад

@@jodydowdall2929 Hi again, I confess that I have NOT tested using the MixPre in extreme cold or heat - 99% of my work is indoors. Sorry I couldn't help more on that particular matter.

@jodydowdall2929 3 года назад

Curtis Judd no worries. I was able to find a bit of info in a couple of dedicated Facebook groups. Still appreciate the quick reply though 👍

@miguelsotto-mayor7325 4 года назад

Hi Curtis, if I work with an external keyboard, it's possible after stop recording plug a pendrive and make the backup or I need to have the pen inserted during record to make the backup?

@curtisjudd 4 года назад

It will backup after you add the USB drive later in the session

@OM-yx9uu 5 лет назад

Hello Curtis, it's a pleasure to watch your videos, I learn a lot from them, thank you very much! I work mainly in documentary film for cinema, I usually do not mix work, I record in polyphonic wav for individual editing later, I must be quick and adapt to different circumstances. At the moment I'm using a Zoom F8, I'm thinking about changing , however, I do not have the necessary budget to reach a 633, that is why I am thinking about acquiring a MixPre 10T I think I will be able to acquire better operational fluency and get better coverage in situations without control. Do you consider that this is a suitable equipment for my need? Thank you very much for your time Curtis! (Sorry, my English is not native).

@curtisjudd 5 лет назад

Hi O M, both the F8 and MixPre take a fair bit of effort to learn and achieve operational fluency. It may be that the MixPre comes more naturally for you. However, I would not characterize it as significantly easier to learn. If you are interested in diving into the details for either one, I have courses for both over at school.LearnLightAndSound.com. Best wishes!

@OM-yx9uu 5 лет назад

Curtis Judd Thanks for the response and the tips! I'll take a look at your web site, I regret not having fluent English, it may be interesting that the video courses contain subtitles (?) to expand the range of participants, it's just a wish...! Thx Curtis!

@curtisjudd 5 лет назад

O M Thanks for the request. I would like to add subtitles. I haven't had the time or money to do that just yet but will keep trying.

@GaryStockton 6 лет назад

I’m very happy with my Mix-Pre-6

@curtisjudd 6 лет назад

It’s a good one!

@paulmanley7999 3 года назад

thanks for these reviews. What is a good bag for this recorder/mixer?

@curtisjudd 3 года назад

The Orca OR-280 is worth a look. Link in the description.

@brunerdyer2771 6 лет назад

Love your videos Curtis! Do you think the Mix-Pre 10 is a viable substitute for the SD 633? I am pro sound engineer making Scripps shows in particular, and mostly deliver only iso tracks. I use a 633 and a 688. On the 633 and the 688, I have been disappointed with the line inputs. There are no input limiters on the line inputs, so I am forced to drive my Lectros higher than normal to take advantage of the input limiters on the wireless mics to avoid clipping when things get out of hand. How do the Kashmir preamps sound to you compared to the preamps on inputs 1-3 do the 633? How clean is the limiter? Is track arming different than the 6 Series? Is there any way to mute a track easily while leaving it armed, like on the 788? In practice, how is operating the fader/ trim knobs on the fly, adjusting both trim and fader quickly? Other than the headphone knob on the side, how does real world operating of Mix-Pre 10 compare to the 633 for ENG and reality? Are there any gotchas you personally find annoying or untenable?

@curtisjudd 6 лет назад

Hi, no I wouldn't consider the MixPre-10T - or 3 or 6 - a viable replacement for the 633. The features are somewhat limited to target a different group of users than the 6xx series. I like the MixPre Series a lot, but I only pull out the 10T when I must because I need more inputs than the 633 offers. Here's one sample comparing the MixPre-6 to the 633 (and Zoom F series while we were at it): ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Hnvq-6M1adE.html The limiter is decent as long as not pressed too hard. I don't hear a major difference. Arming tracks is the same using the Wingman app but on the device you go into the input menu for a channel to arm/disarm. I don't see a way to mute without disarming. Also, cannot arm/disarm from the main meters screen like you can on the 633. Hope that helps.

@brunerdyer2771 6 лет назад

Hi Curtis, I am still intrigued by this recorder. I have 2 follow up questions, as you are the only person I know who has used it. Have you had any more experience with what happens to the recordings in progress when power is lost? Are the recordings finalized? And how much lost? Is there any way to make a list of file names to pull from for different scenes rather than having to enter them manually entering them each time? Is there any way to make a list of names to pull from for different folders? In organizing my audio for a particular show, I go back and forth between scenes (file names) and locations (folder names). Having to enter these manually would take too much time. I am interested in this recorder because I would rather have preamps with good analog limiters on all inputs, rather than just inputs 1-3 of my 633. I get caught sometimes with overloading the inputs 4-6 of the 633 in a heinous unusable way when trying to pull up a low talker who gets really loud. I might be willing to overlook some of the shortcomings of the MixPre if I got better audio overall.

@curtisjudd 6 лет назад

Hi again, In my experience, when power is lost, the file is closed up to within about 2 seconds on the power loss so very little is lost. I'm trying to picture what you mean about file and folder names. If I understand correctly, the MixPre does NOT have the same feature like the 633 where each time you add a file name, it saves that to a list for future use.

@mehtes 3 года назад

Hi Curtis, great video! I can't decide between the Zoom F8 or Mix-Pre 10 and haven't found any youtube video that reviews this debate. Basically, I would like an entry level recorder to start working in the film industry and that is also good for field recording. What are your thoughts? I would like to buy the Mix Pre 10 but I'm not sure if the price difference is worth it. Thanks in advance!

@mehtes 3 года назад

Just saw your advice on this in the F8n Review!

@curtisjudd 3 года назад

Especially with the MixPre-10 II out now, I'd opt for the MixPre.

@dickydahl 5 лет назад

Hi Curtis, I have a Zoom F4 but have been thinking about switching over to a Mixpre-10T for the number of channels and the limiters. I often have to feed a line out to camera when I'm doing sound (mostly for reference sake) and I'm wondering how the quality of the audio outputting compares between the 10T and the F4. Is there more of pro line out available with the 10T? Do you consider there to be a "best practice" as far as feeding camera audio from the 10T? Thanks a lot for your thoughts on this! - Dicky

@curtisjudd 5 лет назад

Hi Dicky, here’s a video where we demonstrate how to set levels when sending Sound from your recorder to camera: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-bsUeXtxsa50.html The 10T line outputs are on mini XLR jacks but are pro line level.

@ricklord7144 4 года назад

Hi Curtis... First off, love your tutorials and reviews. Last year did an episodic and had issues with boom thunder. We nicknamed the operator, Gorilla paws. Is the SD 10T capable of controlling the lows? Like the 633 is able to do?

@curtisjudd 4 года назад

Hi Rick, yes, the MixPre series all have high pass filters selectable on all inputs.

@ricklord7144 4 года назад

Thank you Curtis for the quick response... I'm really torn between the Mixpre and the Zoom F8n... I have a production company in Salem Oregon and am considering arming us with semi-pro sound gear and then train to prevent what we've been saddled with so far... Not exactly the Film Mecca of the world here.

@curtisjudd 4 года назад

@@ricklord7144 My favorite is the MixPre II series. Best wishes!

@EposVox 6 лет назад

I wish the MixPre-3 could be powered by NPF batteries!

@curtisjudd 6 лет назад

Good news, it can! Same battery sled that the MixPre-6 and 10T use.

@EposVox 6 лет назад

Oh crap, really?! Alright I need to pick that up, then. AA does not last long for me.

@JuusoHoo 5 лет назад

I have now been listenikg to your reviews some +6 months and mostly as a musician recording s-swriter and naturesoundscape enthusiast i am deeply thankful for you open non-driving view and good reviews. Have to check if this goes witm my dslr cam and my 2016 macbookpro... This device is expensive for me and I am thinking of cutting the expences via using this or the M-model as a fieldrecorder and also as an interface. Is there a great difference to the M version? i do most/all editing in DAW. Doing some videoshooting already too.

@curtisjudd 5 лет назад

Hi Juuso Hoo, the M model unfortunately will not work for video location recording as its UI is make for multitrack music recording and overdubbing.

@JuusoHoo 5 лет назад

@@curtisjudd ok. thanks. but the 10T does work for music production as a recoeder and inteeface too - right?

@curtisjudd 5 лет назад

@@JuusoHoo Correct. You can use it as a USB audio interface with your computer's DAW or if you add the music plugin, which can be purchased at the SD site, you can use the MixPre-10T without a computer in lieu of a DAW.

@richardh568 6 лет назад

Curtis. Very sorry to ask such a beginner question.....and probable lengthy answer.....But I really need you help learning to use my new MixPre 10-T/. I've watched the reviews, and read the downloaded manual, but none of these teach you how to set up and use the 10-T for recording. I just moved up for the Zoom H6, and am not used to setting gain and faders. Can you please give a short run on how to properly set the gain on the 10T. Nothing I've done so far seems to get good results. Thanks for any advise......William

@curtisjudd 6 лет назад

Hi William, yes, I have a few options: 1) I have a MixPre course available over at School.LearnLightAndSound.com and 2) I have a quick run-through on how I set things up on the MixPre here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-H_fzuu0m7OE.html

@ArlynEmrys 6 лет назад

Can you compare this to the 10M? & also tell us any advantages to having the 32-bit AD/DA conversion built into the 10T? is that part of the 10M as well?

@curtisjudd 6 лет назад

I’ll be talking to the Sound Devices guys at NAB next week. I’m hoping this will be one of the topics.

@brianknight8195 5 лет назад

32 bit increased the headroom on the digital side This coupled with the discrete limiter before discrete preamp almost completely eliminates clipping while preserving an immense amount of headroom.

@paulonatanx4420 Год назад

hi Curtis, there is a Brazilian series called Irmandade that was all recorded in a Mix-pré10

@curtisjudd Год назад

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@anirudhdas5453 6 лет назад

hey bro just a doubt i have that is i have an audio techinca mic laviler can i put it into a camcorder and expect it to work it has inbuilt power but previosly i tried a rode video mic into the camcorder but it didnt work suprisingly a room h1 works i have a sony nx cam-100 with xlr input . and ya u are the only one on youtube who doesnt mind to make videos on technicalities thanks in adance

@curtisjudd 6 лет назад

Hi anirudh Das, which type of connector/plug does the microphone have? And what type of microphone input does the camcorder have (3.5mm stereo jack? XLR).

@Ballistic23 5 лет назад

Excellent review. Does the Mixpre10 record to the thumb drive off the SD card? So do you need to have the SD card installed? My concern is that if the SD card becomes corrupted it will transfer the corrupted files to the thumb drive.

@Ballistic23 5 лет назад

Sorry Curtis I've just realised it copies from the SD card onto the thumb drive so that answers my question.

@curtisjudd 5 лет назад

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@syekbe 6 лет назад

09:31 Curtis, quick question: so since the MixPre10t offers timecode, do I still need to buy the tentacle type device? What cables do you recommend for this specific model that offers TC to sync with cameras? Is there a universal cable or cables you recommend to sync various cinema cameras, dslrs, etc? I'm so confused by all these connection option: BNC, HDMI, 3.5 Aux?? I can't seem to get a clear answer online about this. Thank you for your knowledge. You are a gem for us novice filmmakers!!

@curtisjudd 6 лет назад

Hi Sy. You'll need timecode generators for each camera, you just won't need one for the 10T. Which cable you need depends entirely on the camera you'll be shooting with. Which camera will you be using?

@syekbe 6 лет назад

most likely canon dslr cameras but I've had friends who may want to use my services for Red cameras or possible Arri Alexa type cameras

@curtisjudd 6 лет назад

Ok. Every camera needs a different type of cable. The Canon DSLRs do not have timecode inputs so you'll have to record the timecode from the timecode generator to the camera's microphone input. In that case, you can just use the cable that comes with the Tentacle Sync E (for example, same with the Ambient NanoLockit which both have a 3.5mm to 3.5mm TRS cable. Perfect for DSLRs). To jam sync the Tentacle or NanoLockit to the 10T, you'll need a cable like this: bhpho.to/2rjYbEU If you have not already seen it, you may find my reviews of the Tentacle Sync E and Ambient Nano Lockit useful since they each demonstrate how to set things up: Tentacle Sync E: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-o36XYOPp0BE.html Ambient NanoLockit: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-KpJql4ojm50.html

@syekbe 6 лет назад

Yes i just watched the video on Tentacle. Thank you, Curtis for taking the time to address my concern!

@LewHeenan 6 лет назад

Hi Curtis, on a similar subject - I am looking to use the 10T with a Sony FS5 camera - what would be your timecode solution and recommended cable?

@RandomRichard2022 3 года назад

Hi, so, I've been using the Zoom F8n for a few years and I'm thinking of moving to the Mixpre 10 II, simply because of the 32-bit float recording option. But I am worried about the user interface of the Mixpre 10. The buttons seem way better than the zoom, but the screen seems to be much smaller and the menus seem to have fewer options. Is this the case? How would you compare the zoom and the mixpre concerning only the menu system? Is it as easy to navigate? to change file names? I love the shortcuts on the zoom f8n, are there any shortcuts to go quickly name the next take etc. on the mixpre 10? I tried looking online, but no one seems to be doing this precise comparison of the 2. (sorry for all the questions and thank you so much in advance for your help). Love your videos :)

@curtisjudd 3 года назад

Hi Richard, It will come down to personal preference on a lot of this. So everything which follows is my personal opinion. I personally prefer the MixPre, even with its smaller touch screen. But I have heard some people complain that out in hot environments where they're sweating that touchscreens don't work so well. The menus seem more intuitive and easier to use on the MixPre to me. I prefer the F8's menu knob on the front of the F8 while the MixPre places it on the side where it is difficult to access when the recorder is in a sound bag. To me the MixPre sounds a little smoother - not a huge difference, but something people with sharp hearing can hear. The 10 II does have a two-way custom function switch which you can use to quickly jump to a particular menu. I have a course which covers the MixPre over at School.LearnLightAndSound.com if you're interested. And you can always download the user manual from the Sound Devices website. Best wishes!

@RandomRichard2022 3 года назад

@@curtisjudd Awesome, thank you so much for your help. Take care! :)

@FranklynGrant 6 лет назад

The Best!!!!!

@curtisjudd 6 лет назад

Thanks!

@georgeingmire7258 5 лет назад

I'm interested in getting one of these, but I'd probably need to sell my SD442 and SD744 --- one thing you mentioned (and others have as well) is that this is great back up option for pro-mixers. I've been mixing sound for 18 years, as part of my income (about 70%) - I work about 5 to 10 days a month. So, could this be the main recorder? What are the drawbacks for this vs. say a SD 664 or 663?

@curtisjudd 5 лет назад

Hi George, great question and not an easy one to answer but I will say unequivocally that I would never give up my 633 for the MixPre 10T for paid work. Some of the main reasons for that are 1) ergonomics - the MixPre 10T's headphone/menu encoder knob on the right hand side of the unit is a nightmare to operate when the mixer is in a bag. I haven't found a good solution for this 2) Output routing and options and particularly AES 42 which has come in handy to feed audio to Blackmagic Ursa Mini Pro which will accept AES feeds 3) Easier to use faders and 4) and this is a persnickety item that most clients won't notice, but I do prefer the sound of the 633 preamps vs. the MixPre. It isn't a huge difference, but I can hear it. All that said, I love the 10T as a backup which comes to all my paid location jobs (thankfully never had to put it into service for that, yet) or when I need more inputs, though most of my jobs don't require more than 3 or 4 inputs so the 633 does fine.

@user-bs3cw3vx5t 6 лет назад

Curtis, one question..if i want to record only post fader channesl, can i to do this in MIX PRE-10T? 633 can recording pre/post fader...and what about Mix pre-10?

@curtisjudd 6 лет назад

Yes, you have both options. In basic mode, all that is recorded is the stereo (post fader) mix. In advanced mode you can record the pre-fader isolated channel plus the post-fader mix. Or you can record just the mix or just the isos.

@km-vl4fy 6 лет назад

Very nice review! I noticed the price of the MixPre10t is similar to a used 744t. What reasons would there be for picking up a 744t vs a MixPre10t - or the other way round? Thanks!

@curtisjudd 6 лет назад

Hi 40075km, Thanks! Good question,. I have worked a little bit with the 744T and I think the main difference is the the MixPre is set up a little bit more like a mixer than recorder, though of course they're both capable of the same thing in the end. The 744 has a different preamp which to my ear sound a little "warmer". But they don't make the 744T any longer, so there's a little risk there over the long run (though SD are very good about servicing their products, so I wouldn't expect any issues soon). Might be worth renting, borrowing, or otherwise finding a way to get your hands on both to see which works better for you. Best wishes!

@km-vl4fy 6 лет назад

So it's mainly a functional difference... good point. I have always wondered about the difference between 'recorders' and 'mixers with integrated recorders' with SD products. Also thanks for pointing out the sound/preamp difference, I haven't worked with a MixPre yet, but I do like the sound of the 744t. In your experience, is the 7 series sound different from the 6 series? Thanks!

@curtisjudd 6 лет назад

I haven't compared them side by side, to be honest. I work with a 633 and used the 744T for a project about 3 years ago for another filmmaker. They don't sound substantially different to me. One would really only notice when playing them side by side. To be honest, I think the same could be said of the 633 and MixPre. Though some people claim it is a night and day difference, I think those are special people and most audiences wouldn't notice a difference at all.

@km-vl4fy 6 лет назад

Night and day... hehe. It's interesting that this seems to be true for so many differerent creative fields in which gear plays a crucial role. Anyway, appreciate your input, big fan of your reviews. All the best!

@oglaeye_3060 6 лет назад

hi did you try using the mixpre 10t on a alexa mini camera? what is the best way to have a better audio results for it? thank you

@curtisjudd 6 лет назад

Hi ibay, I have not worked with any of the Alexas as yet but if I did, I suspect that I would record the audio separate from the camera and at most, send a wireless or wired audio feed to the camera. The camera would not be used for the primary audio recording.

@brianknight8195 5 лет назад

I have used the MP 10-T with a few Alexa cameras. You can send the audio via a wireless hop to camera. That’s your best case scenario. You can also use a Tentacle Setup through the other audio input and convert it later. I have done that. You may be able to sync the Alexa directly from the MP 10-T’s time code output with a converter cable from BNC to the lemo input that Alexa uses and Jam Sync. I have not tried that yet. That will. Be next.

@davejones4740 6 лет назад

Hey Curtis have you ever had the Pearl mics to audition or use?

@curtisjudd 6 лет назад

No, where do I find out more?

@mott77 6 лет назад

I bought the following batteries to power my Zoom F4 using a Hirose connector. Are the voltages to high to power my new MixPre 10? A Sony BP-U90 Lithium-Ion Compatible Battery (14.4V, 125.3 Wh, 8700 mAh) Several Talent Cell Model YB1206000-USB

@curtisjudd 6 лет назад

No, I have powered the MixPre-10T with a 14.4 Volt Anton Bauer cinema battery with no problem.

@timbeaton5045 6 лет назад

Just a silly idea, maybe, but re the awkward placing to the headphone knob.. could you get a small piece of flexible PVC tubing, (like that used in fish tanks), of the correct diameter to fit snugly over the actual knob? Seems to be available on ebay in multiple diameters. Then cut it to length so that you have access to it, but don't have to actually turn the encoder directly, but turn the end of the tube? A workaround, i admit, but as you say, this isn't going to be fixed by a firmware update.

@curtisjudd 6 лет назад

You get the prize for the most creative solution!

@timbeaton5045 6 лет назад

You are MOST welcome! PS What's my prize??? 🤠

@timbeaton5045 6 лет назад

PS Thanks for all the great videos...and my Linkstar 24V just arrived, too! Thanks for the recommendation. Happy Holidays!

@curtisjudd 6 лет назад

How about a Luxi for your smartphone?

@timbeaton5045 6 лет назад

cool! But i was kidding! Plus I now live in France!

@Hexspa 4 года назад

Mr. Judd, have you mentioned which SD card you use in the Sound Devices MixPre? I just want to confirm if it's better to get their branded one. Thanks.

@curtisjudd 4 года назад

I use the older SanDisk Extreme cards listed on the SD approved list. I have never had any issues but have never recorded more than 5 channels at the same time at 48kHz, 24 bit simultaneously. I think the people who have reported problems record max number of channels at 192kHz.

@Hexspa 4 года назад

@@curtisjudd Got it. U da man.

@stephenmolloy4244 5 лет назад

Hi Curtis. Out of interest, how sophisticated is the metadata on the 10T? Can you name the tracks, i.e. boom, lav 1, lav 2, as you can with the Zoom F8 for example?

@curtisjudd 5 лет назад

Hi Stephen, yes, you can name the tracks on the MixPre series just like on the Zoom F8.

@stephenmolloy4244 5 лет назад

Great! Thank you Judd! And one more question. How exactly does the thumb drive copying work? As in does it work independently of the SD card or is it copying whatever goes to the card? If the SD card fails, would there be a usable copy on the thumb drive? Sorry if this is a silly question. Just curious.

@sanjacobs6261 2 года назад

Hey, Curtis, great video! I have a question that has been bugging me for a while, because I've been an F8 user for a few years, but I rent an 833 fairly often. In the Sound Devices world, is there a way to increment the scene/slate number with one button-press like on the Zoom F8? I hate it when they call "sound ready?" and I have to say "hold on, I'm changing the slate number!" because I'm fiddling around in the 833's menu system to change it. Cheers, man! :)

@curtisjudd 2 года назад

Yes, you can increment scenes on the 8xx series by holding HP + Right Transport Control.

@sanjacobs6261 2 года назад

@@curtisjudd Yess! That's great news! Now, what is HP, is it the headphone encoder? And is it only on the 8xx series?

@curtisjudd 2 года назад

@@sanjacobs6261 Yes, Headphone encoder. You can also do this on the MixPre with folders. A bit more than I can drop in a RU-vid comment.

@sanjacobs6261 2 года назад

@@curtisjudd Nice, thanks! :)

@tucktheduck006 5 лет назад

Curtis, I'm a university student pursuing Film, with a big focus in location sound for my career focus. I also like to write and produce small-scale projects, mostly because I enjoy the craft but also for the learning experience. My next big purchase will be either the MixPre 6 or the MixPre 10T, and I wanted to ask your recommendation. On the one hand, the MixPre 6 is much easier on my budget, meaning I'll be able to obtain it sooner and be able to make more projects in the meantime. On the other hand, if I wait significantly longer to save up for the MixPre 10T, I would feel that I'd be getting more long-term use out of the device, whereas in the MixPre 6 I worry that I'll be getting a product that I'll have to move on from in just a few years, given that I eventually want to have a pro-level mixer/recorder once I'm more experienced. Maybe it's best if I pull the long wait now and skip the MixPre 6 entirely?

@curtisjudd 5 лет назад

Hi TuckTheDuck006, wow, that's a tough call. You can make great quality recordings with a MixPre-6 so that isn't really setting for lower quality gear, only giving up balanced outputs, an in-built timecode generator, and additional inputs. If you decide to focus mostly on location sound recording, you'll probably upgrade to one of the Sound Devices 6xx series recorders at that point and then the MixPre would be your backup mixer/recorder. That's how I'd look at it, but of course you'll need to tailor that for your situation and aspirations. Best of luck!

@tucktheduck006 5 лет назад

@@curtisjudd Thank you!

@user-bs3cw3vx5t 6 лет назад

Hi, Curtis! What do you recommend to buy for production record (film making): 633 or mix pre-10? Or may be save money and buy 664 some later? Thank you!

@curtisjudd 6 лет назад

It depends on the types of films you'll be shooting. My favorite is the 633 and is what I would choose if I could only choose 1. But there are a LOT of factors to consider. Good luck!

@user-bs3cw3vx5t 6 лет назад

Thank you!

@brianknight8195 5 лет назад

It depends on how many different types of output you need for your production. The sound is very close. Many productions require separate mixes for each output two cameras And IFB and possibly to a producer or director with a different feed required for each. The 633 is better at that. So for a more extensive professional set up a 633 or the 600 series is better.

@ryanbanyumili1511 4 года назад

I am ryan from Jakarta, I want to ask, I have a problem with the 10t mixpre that I have, so he has no display or black screen, so only the sound device logo is lit, do you think there is a solution for my 10p mixpre?

@curtisjudd 4 года назад

Hi Ryan, usually Sound Devices can fix issues with their repair services. I would suggest you contact their support department. Best wishes!

@andinugroho4896 5 лет назад

Sir, this has a mixassist or dugan automix like 6 series?.. Thank youu..

@curtisjudd 5 лет назад

Hi andi, no, only the 6 series has that in the SD product line up. But this does have a feature called remix which allows you to remix a previous recording: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-_9RlX7YqiDo.html

@SoundSpeeding 6 лет назад

Interesting, I wasn't aware the copying to the USB drive started during the recording itself, as I'd be lead to believe it started once the recording to the SD card had been completed.

@curtisjudd 6 лет назад

That's what I noticed in a test where I pulled the battery while recording. The file on the SD card was fine. The file on the thumb drive was corrupted but existed even though I had not stopped the recording before pulling the battery.

@Jon_Oates 6 лет назад

I haven't had a chance to delve into the custom menu yet, but do you happen to know whether you can set the headphone output to monitor pre-fade?

@curtisjudd 6 лет назад

Hi Jon, yes, in the headphone menu you can set up a custom preset to listen to any combination of ISO tracks (pre-fader).

@Jon_Oates 6 лет назад

Hi Curtis, that's really helpful. Thank you.

@setheuler2657 5 лет назад

Hello @Curtis Judd How would you compare the F8n to the MixPre10T? As far as someone who is just getting into field recording but wants to buy good gear(kit), what would you suggest?

@curtisjudd 5 лет назад

Hi Seth, first thing to consider is that the Sound Devices MixPre-10T is priced nearly twice that of the Zoom F8n so that's the first consideration. I talk a bit about the differences in two other videos linked below. If the difference in price is not an issue for you, it then just comes down to the types of things you need to do in your projects and jobs. I personally prefer the MixPre, if I could only choose one, but that is not true for everyone. To some people, the F8n does everything they need and they are already used to working with Zoom recorders. It seems like the Zoom F8n hits a better price/features ratio. I own both the F8n and the MixPre-10T and when I go on a paid job and have to choose one backup recorder, I almost always choose the MixPre. I prefer its ergonomics (menus, channel knobs, touch screen) in every way except for the headphone knob which is on the side of the recorder. The headphone amplifier is quite a lot better on the MixPre and that matters when doing an full production day job (12+ hours). Zoom F series vs MixPre - this is an older video before the MixPre added re-mix and support for 3rd party control surfaces and the Zoom F series added auto mix. But everything else is still valid: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-NadEMwaCNEY.html And here's a very recent discussion of all sorts of recorders with a discussion of the Zoom F series and MixPre in the latter half: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-hqgCZCEq0_8.html Best wishes!

@setheuler2657 5 лет назад

Curtis Judd thanks for the response, it does help for sure 🙂 I know you have said you do not dabble in the music side of things, but in your opinion would these both serve well as a multi-track recorder. Once I purchase one of them, I plan to enroll in a few of your courses. Your material is great! Thanks again, Seth

@curtisjudd 5 лет назад

Hi Seth, for multitrack recording, the MixPre has a clear advantage. You can buy a plug-in that makes the MixPre a multitrack DAW without a computer.

@rastAsia 5 лет назад

Anybody knows what the 3 tiny holes are meant for right next to the 8th knob? I initially thought they were slate mics.

@curtisjudd 5 лет назад

Indeed, it is a slate microphone.

@ethanl9656 5 лет назад

I have not been able to find information about scene name increments. Like on the 6 series, is there a quick way of incrementing the scene names with letters?

@curtisjudd 5 лет назад

Hi Ethan, will need to check when I get back to the office where I keep the 10T, but I believe it only increments by number. You can rename the NAME portion of files, but that isn't a great substitute for what you're trying to do.

@ethanl9656 5 лет назад

@@curtisjudd Thank you, this would be a great feature but the wingman app makes this simple to do anyways.

@microdoulo2250 8 месяцев назад

I got mixpre ii But for some reason when return audio is cutting I use window 10? I setup for podcats ch 1 and 3-4 return

@curtisjudd 8 месяцев назад

Not sure I understand the question. My guess is that there is a sample rate mis-match between your computer and the MixPre but best to contact Sound Devices support to work it out.

@dickydahl 5 лет назад

Hey Curtis, is there a mic/line switch for the inputs of the 10T or do they work like the F4/8? Thanks...

@curtisjudd 5 лет назад

Hey Dicky, there is a setting in the input menu for each channel to select mic or line level. So you are not tied to 1/4” for line and XLR for mic like the Zoom F4 and F8. Note that the F8n does allow you to choose mic/line like the MixPre series.

@dickydahl 5 лет назад

@@curtisjudd Cool, that's what I figured. Thanks!

@dickydahl 4 года назад

Hi Curtis! An unrelated, off-the-wall question: You're not able to use the Aux / Mic In port on the 10T as an additional headphone port by chance, are you? If not, is there any other way to run another headphone line from the 10T, apart from a splitter? Thanks for your help!

@meahnicholas7352 6 лет назад

Thank you

@curtisjudd 6 лет назад

You’re welcome!

@meahnicholas7352 6 лет назад

does the pre mix 10 t have automatic mic mixing.? like the 688

@curtisjudd 6 лет назад

No, unfortunately not with the current firmware.

@mychalsimmons4177 6 лет назад

Awesome

@curtisjudd 6 лет назад

Thanks!

@geoffmaxwell1569 6 лет назад

I have discovered a TC software glitch on mine. If in 24 hour TC mode, it won't hold code between startups. Code resets from zero (or occasionally some other number) every time you turn on/off. SD says it is a problem to be addressed in a future update.

@curtisjudd 6 лет назад

Thanks for sharing Geoff!

@brianknight8195 5 лет назад

That’s addressed in the FW update.

@TenThumbsProductions 5 лет назад

My Mac isn't reading my MixPre-10 at all, any tips?

@curtisjudd 5 лет назад

Hi, When you say it isn't reading, do you mean that in the sound control panel's input and output tabs, the MixPre-10T is not shown in the list?

@TenThumbsProductions 5 лет назад

Curtis Judd exactly! I also didn’t realize I wouldn’t have a charger when I purchased it, so I’ve burned up a lot of batteries trying to resolve this issue (going for a hirose charger to av today) the USB-C chord is brand new, think it’s the firmware? I’m running the newest OS on my Mac. It’ll use it primarily as an audio interface but I wanted mobility to record our door music sessions as well.

@curtisjudd 5 лет назад

Ah, ok. I wish I could help more but probably best to get in touch with SD support. They're good about getting back with you quickly. Best wishes!

@TenThumbsProductions 5 лет назад

Curtis Judd we’ve been in touch via email, thanks!

@breznotraphouse3191 3 года назад

@@TenThumbsProductions Have you fixed it?

@jarrodcooper4308 5 лет назад

Hi Curtis, I know you did the f4/8 vs the mix pre 6 I think it was. However, I wanted to trouble you for your input on the newer Zoom F8n vs the SD 10t. I have been doing mostly commercial work. And short independent films. Thus far I have been renting gear as I need. I believe that the the F8n can now shut down without losing timecode? (Correct me if I'm wrong) and comes in a lot cheaper than the 10t in my country. Timecode has been a must on every shoot I've been on so far. so thats why I would like to do this comparison. Any detailed help or guidance as to why investing in either would help me immensely. I know that in the long run I will need to step up into a 6 series recorder, however it is currently out of the budget with the types of sound jobs I am doing at the moment. Please help an aspiring location recordist.

@curtisjudd 5 лет назад

Hi Jarrod, yes, it evidently will keep timecode for a time (I think 2 hours) when powered off. The Zoom F8n is great. What are you recording with now? It might make more sense to just wait until it’s time to invest in the 6 series.

@jarrodcooper4308 5 лет назад

Currently I have been renting a Zoom F8 on shoots, (Only own a H6 which is not up for the jobs I do). Sound Devices don't rent here. Ive been using a tentacle sync (also rented per shoot) to keep timecode on the F8, but its a pain to work with in a bag set up with the connectors at the bottom. However all the rental at the moment is eating into my profits. Thus the Zoom made sense to be able to switch off during lunch or swap batteries during the day without having to jam again or use the tentacle. I'm afraid I am still quite far away from being able to invest in a 6 series. but eventually when I do, the F8n or 10T will become my back up to the 6 series. So here is my last question Curtis. given the feature sets, pros and cons of the F8n and the 10T. If you had to buy a first "Budget" recorder, which would it be?

@curtisjudd 5 лет назад

I would buy the MixPre, but that's a very personal decision. Others would opt for the F8n and be very happy with that choice. BTW, the MixPre will also keep timecode for a period of time when turned off. Its timecode input and output are on the side which are a little easier to access from a bag. However, I do not like where the headphone encoder/knob is located on the MixPre (on the right side) which is hard to adjust when in a bag. I MUCH prefer the channel knobs on the MixPre and find them easier to work with. There are trade-offs across the board. I'll have a review wrapup of the F8n coming later this week or first part of next week in case that helps. Good luck!

@jarrodcooper4308 5 лет назад

Thank you so much Curtis, this helps me a ton! I also just wanted to say I am very thankful for the way in which you engage with the community and offer up such insightful help. I'm looking forward to seeing your final thoughts on the F8n soon. Keep up the great work.

@ryanbanyumili1511 4 года назад

hello i'm ryan from indonesia, i want to ask if the usb port on the 10T mixpre can be divided into two? for example, one for flasdisk and one for the controller

@curtisjudd 4 года назад

Hi Ryan, unfortunately, no, it does not support USB hubs.

@badblake3535 4 года назад

Acording to manual mixpre 10t support powered usb hubs

@curtisjudd 4 года назад

@@badblake3535 Yes, since they released the new 5.01 firmware two weeks ago, you can now use a USB Hub.

@ivanbulbuk5365 6 лет назад

what do you think abouth roland r 88 ? can you make comparation with mix pre 10 or zoom F8 ?

@curtisjudd 6 лет назад

Hi Ivan, I used the R88 for one project and it is ok. Quite heavy for a field recorder but pretty good preamps. If I were buying today, I’d personally go for the F8 or MixPre-10T

@brianknight8195 5 лет назад

Re F8 vs MP10-T The MP10-T has analog discrete preamps and limiters before the preamp to keep the headroom in sudden loudness conditions. The F8 has limiters after the preamps and AFAIK they’re neither are discrete. Zoom’s new F6 has 32 bit float recording to address this, but, I think the MP10-T’s limiter before pre discrete analog circuitry is better and safer, YMMV.

@ronfya 6 лет назад

Hey Curtis, do you know if the 10T can be used as an audio interface on a computer using only USB-A ? (even being in "reduced mode" like I believe the MixPre-6 can do allowing only 2 channels) ? I would really like to purchase the 10T for field and studio needs but I have a 2012 macbook with only USB-A's so I was wondering if I would be able to use the 10T at all on that computer (2 channels only would do as an interface). Thanks, Cheers.

@curtisjudd 6 лет назад

Hi Ronfya, good news! With the MixPre-10T you can use a USB-C to USB-A cable like this and use all of the inputs (not just 2): amzn.to/2CQPKpo

@ronfya 6 лет назад

yeaaaaaah !!! 10T it is then ! Thank you so much for the info Curtis !

@curtisjudd 6 лет назад

👍 Also posted a piece on how to use it as an audio interface here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-OyWITVK7JDk.html Good luck!

@bbfoto7248 6 лет назад

+Curtis Judd - Thank you so much for your professional, in-depth, thorough, fantastic reviews! I especially appreciate your integrity and straightforward style. *Two BIG Thumbsup* Now I have two questions that I hope you can answer: 1. Are there built-in, selectable -10dB or -20dB attenuation ''Pads'' available for each of the 8 microphone preamps? 2. When using the 1/4'' TRS Line Level Inputs on the 8 combi-jacks, does the Line Level Signal completely bypass the Microphone Preamp Circuitry??? Or does the Line Level signal pass through the mic preamp circuitry + an attenuation circuit before hitting the A/D converters? Thanks for your time and interest! B.B.

@curtisjudd 6 лет назад

Hi bb, Thanks! 1) no pads, unfortunately. Will need to use mics with a pad or an in-line pad. 2) I'm not sure - this is not something they have publicly stated. My experience with Sound Devices is that they don't usually cut corners like that. In my experience hearing the line inputs, the performance is good, clean. In short: I don't know but I suspect they are actually bypassing the preamps. Best wishes!

@bbfoto7248 6 лет назад

+Curtis Judd - A low-profile Right-Angle Headphone Adapter Cable may help access the side-mounted HP Volume/Encoder more easily & accurately. These obviously aren't pro audio grade cables, but they were the lowest profile that I could find... www.amazon.com/CableCreation-2-PACK-Female-Extension-Adapter/dp/B01K3WXKV0/ Other observations & wishes for the MixPre 10T: I wish that they (Sound Devices) had decided to make this device just a bit thicker than the MixPre3/6. With Sony NP-F style batteries on the optional sled it's going to be quite a bit thicker anyway. This would accommodate: 1. Slightly more room & comfortable spacing between each of the front panel Fader/Gain Knobs. 2. Room for a slightly taller Touchscreen Display. I honestly feel that the vertical-oriented peak/level meters for the 8 Mic/Line inputs are not adequate to Precisely (and Quickly) adjust important gain levels. 3. More space between the HP jack and the HP level/Encoder knob. Can the HP Level/Encoder knob be assigned to adjust the Output Level to your powered Studio Monitors when connected to the L/R mini-XLR line outputs (when you are using this as an Audio Interface)??? Ideally, I would want a separate, bypass-able, analog potentiometer for this, but I see where space could be an issue, LOL. An important part of most computer audio recording interfaces is the ''monitor controller'' section. But I realize that this is not the MixPre 10T's primary function. It seems strange for Sound Devices to use a USB Type-C connection and not include Thunderbolt 3 I/O capability, and then just USB 3.0 (not 3.1 connectivity), along with Power over the USB Type-C cable. :-/ Perhaps space restrictions for good, clean Power Supply circuitry, and wanting to keep USB class compliance was the deciding factor(s)? IDK? This is an ''almost perfect'' device (for my use case scenario).

@curtisjudd 6 лет назад

Thanks for the tip on the right angle adapter, good idea! I don't see a way to assign the potentiometer to become a full-time output pot when using as an audio interface but you can just leave it in the output menu. I agree, I don't see this replacing my audio interface. One note, the 10T CANNOT be powered via the USB-C jack. That only works on the 3/6. I'm guessing they went with USB 3.0 because that was all that is really necessary for the number of inputs and outputs. TB3 would be a fair bit costlier and wouldn't provide any substantive benefit. Just a guess. Thanks for the ideas--you've put some serious thought into this. Best wishes!

@samuelrossi4482 5 лет назад

Can the other models 3 and 6 also make usb copies for hand off to DIT or is it just this model?

@curtisjudd 5 лет назад

Just the 10T, unfortunately, unless they snuck that feature into the 3 and 6 without listing it on their website.

@samuelrossi4482 5 лет назад

@@curtisjudd Thanks for the response!

@luisnlupe 4 года назад

??? Mixpre3 II vrs Mixpre10 II ??....i use A Zoom F4 solely as a recorder on 8 rechargeable AAs to record music. ( not as mixer or interface)...when recording I usually only use 2 but occasionally 4 of the XLR inputs for my condenser and ribbon mics. BUT it'd fun to place a mics on the wind section, the harp, the piano in a piano concerto to the sides...instead of doing 2 mics in stereo mics OK HERE"S THE QUESTION: >>> POWER: You mention the 10 uses more power than the 6.. Will the 10 II be usable portably on battery power recording 1-2 hour non-stop sessions ( sometimes in the recording venue there are no electrical outlets within 100' ).......even if only using 2 or 4 condenser mics?? Or how large a battery would i be needed to use it on battery-only power?

@curtisjudd 4 года назад

Hi luisnlupe, with Lithium AAs you could probably get 2 hours. Otherwise, I’d suggest you go with the Sony L series battery sled with a couple of NP-F970 batteries.

@MrHamit64 6 лет назад

It's also more affordable than the 788-T and you can still use it with 8 mikes. But also you get an audio interface.

@curtisjudd 6 лет назад

Right on! Doesn’t sound exactly the same but very close!

@Evermore2017 6 лет назад

Curtis Judd What sound differences did you notice?

@hamitcampos4989 6 лет назад

Ah you stole my question. Lol Na it's all good dude. But I've been thinking that exact question ever since his reply just never got around to asking him. Cause SD usually makes things alike. But I guess the Mix devices some how have different pres from the 7 series recorders. Well I'll just add to our question. Are they less crisper or something? Cause when you use a Rode NT1-A on a 7 recorder dude pure audio hevan. Nice and crisp and the person sounds so clear like they're right there with you. It feels like listening to the center channel of a movie then a home recording. Which it'd better I guess for $4000 for the 44-T. Well 2000$ for the 7-22.But yeah I'd love to hear these things with an NT1-A.

@curtisjudd 6 лет назад

I did a sound comparison of the 633 snd MixPre-6 (which has the same preamps as the 10T): ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-NadEMwaCNEY.html To me it sounds like the 633 has more low-end energy. Arguably the MixPre sounds more natural and the 633 warmer. But it takes a good set of headphones or monitors to hear the difference, not something that non-sound enthusiasts will even notice or fret over.

@Evermore2017 6 лет назад

Curtis Judd I heard the same result. Thank you.

@meahnicholas7352 5 лет назад

hi could you give me some link for the 4 pin Hirose battery plz

@curtisjudd 5 лет назад

Here is a 4 pin hirose to d-tap cable if you're going to use cinema batteries like V-mount or Anton Bauer Gold Mount with d-tap outputs: bhpho.to/2JmOY7v

@TheBasCast 5 лет назад

Does the MixPre have a 1 KHZ Slate tone?

@curtisjudd 5 лет назад

Yes

@richardh568 6 лет назад

Curtis: This is mostly FYI, but would appreciate any comments or updates......I just finished my first short film with the MixPre 10-T and had a few issues. Just wondering if anyone else has experienced any of these.......1) Occasionally, when I powered off the unit, then later powered it up, it got confused about which project to open. Most times, it just opened the last project, but several times, it prompted me for which one to open. 2) Only once.....When I powered it back up, it said there were no files on the SD card. Just powered it off and back on, and it was fine, but it scared my pants off. 3)For me anyway, using an external USB had problems. When you put a standard size USB drive in, you have to be VERY careful not to bump it and break it off. The short PNY TDs seem to work fine, and avoid this issue. 4) I found jumping in the menu from Home to Name Files was very cumbersome. Wish there was a shortcut for that. Anyway, I REALLY DO love the MixPre 10, and hope SD continues to improve it. For people like me moving up to bigger films and upgrading gear, it really is currently the best! Thanks, William

@curtisjudd 6 лет назад

Hi Richard, congratulations on wrapping your first short film! That's a big deal! Here are some of my thoughts/questions: 1) I have noticed this recently as well, but only with the latest firmware. It did not seem to do this with earlier firmware versions. 2) I have not encountered this before. Which card are you using? Is it on the SD certified list? 3) Agreed, definitely need to us very compact USB drives. I use the Samsung drives that are basically a USB connector and a tiny piece of plastic about 4mm beyond the USB connector. 4) Yes, I use the Wingman app to do most metadata entry which seems to be a little more efficient but depends on your bag/cart/table setup. Congratulations again. Having that experience now makes you a much more discriminating mixer. :)

@richardh568 6 лет назад

Curtis: Thanks much for the reply. Helps to know it's not just me. If the issue continues, I'll go back to the other version. I did not use the app as this was my first time to use the MixPre 10. The card I used was the Lexar Pro 64G. I did not check the list, but it's the only card(s) I have. I am looking for the PNY 64G USBs as they are tiny also. I'll be sure to check the list first though. Thanks again..... William

@ArlynEmrys 6 лет назад

Found another one I'd like to see you review.. Roland R-88.. maybe compare to the Sound Devices 10T & the Zoom F8. Hope they'll send you one for review.

@curtisjudd 6 лет назад

Hi Joseph, I've used the R-88 and probably would not recommend it. It is quite a bit older and my sense was that its preamps weren't as nice as these newer generation Sound Devices and Zoom recorders/mixers.

@ArlynEmrys 6 лет назад

I could tell it needed an update, so I emailed them a wish list for round 2

@curtisjudd 6 лет назад

Was "lighter weight" on the list? :) That thing was heavy.

@ArlynEmrys 6 лет назад

I'm kind of looking for a cross between the Tascam 60DmkII, Zoom F8 & 10T.. I want one that mounts between the camera on the tripod & has a bigger LCD interface.. so like twice as tall. With two tiltable/aimable anti-shock mic booms out front. don't know why my gut says this is a good idea.

@curtisjudd 6 лет назад

Sounds like you'll need to build that up in parts you choose. :)

@rreiss60 4 года назад

Does the mixpre 6 II have the same 6 ms latency of the mixpre 10T when used as audio interface?

@Hexspa 4 года назад

WannaBe Probably.

@curtisjudd 4 года назад

I don't know for certain and I'm pretty tight on time to do a formal test. Do you happen to know of any apps, preferably free and also not Apple Logic, which will test and show roundtrip latency on Mac? If there's such an app, I'm happy to check.

@Hexspa 4 года назад

@@curtisjudd REAPER. It says it right in the top bar. See top right of this image: twitter.com/Hexspa/status/1203960653490180096/photo/1 I'm pretty sure it displays this on mac. If not, it's probably available in preferences. It's a free trial which never forces you out. I'm ashamed to admit I 'demoed' it for nearly two years. I have a license now tho.

@AlexDelfont 2 года назад

@@curtisjudd I'd also love to know this if you do have time. I have an RME baby-face, and RME are renowned for amazingly low latency. It's the only thing holding me back from the Mixpre series, as I make music in a studio, and there's not much info on this side of things Thanks

@curtisjudd 2 года назад

@@AlexDelfont Probably best to contact Sound Devices support to confirm. I don't have a MixPre-6 on hand, only the 10II and 3II.

@jorgecarlosjorgealvarez9955 5 лет назад

is there any differences with the mixpre10 m?

@curtisjudd 5 лет назад

Yes, the 10M does not have a timecode generator built in and works only for overdub recording, such as one often does for music recording.

@ViniAndradeMusic 5 лет назад

Does this delivers a more solid sound than zoom f8n??

@curtisjudd 5 лет назад

They are virtually identical except when the limiter is turned on with the F8n in which case the noise floor is a little more prominent. You can hear the MixPre 6 and F8 (same preamps as the F8n & 10T): ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Hnvq-6M1adE.html

@brianknight8195 5 лет назад

The discrete limiter before discrete preamp circuitry puts the MPTNT head and shoulders above any of the zoom offerings. Including the F6.

@mychalsimmons4177 6 лет назад

I think for now I better stick with your first recommendation the Tascam DR 60II

@curtisjudd 6 лет назад

👍 great recorder for the price!

@destinjohnny007 5 лет назад

How is it for overdubbing?

@curtisjudd 5 лет назад

Good, but you need the music plugin which is a $100 add-on: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-xdcKjASBAZ4.html

@syekbe 6 лет назад

I've been testing this recorder with the Shure SM58 for several hours now and I still can't figure out how to just record the one track solo - no stereo - just left or right tracks? Is this possible? I thought I could do this with the MixPre 6?? Please help anyone?? The user manual is not very clear on this :( Merry Xmas to all btw.

@curtisjudd 6 лет назад

Hello Sy. Switch to advanced mode and disarm all of the channels but the one channel you want to record.

@syekbe 6 лет назад

Thank you, Curtis. I meant to say "record mono" not "solo" lol I guess recording one track on the 10t automatically records both left and right channels then? Isn't "mono" just left or right?

@curtisjudd 6 лет назад

Hi Sy, only if you leave the stereo mix track armed. If you disarm the stereo mix track, you are left with just a mono track of the SM58

@syekbe 6 лет назад

Curtis Judd Thank you!

@peruperu-jj8zs 4 года назад

The way people say Hirose cracks me up every time... I’m Japanese..

@LearnLightAndSoundSessions 4 года назад

I am curious, how is it pronounced in Japanese? Most of the English speaking world has a knack for pronouncing Japanese words and names very badly. 😀

@peruperu-jj8zs 4 года назад

Curtis Judd Audio ok it’s kinda hard to explain lol. Firstly High-rose is just wrong lol. The other way is partially right. It’s pronounced like “Hero” “seh” “Se” is where people get wrong. Pronunciation of letter E in Japanese is similar to set, bet, bed, check, energy. Not like seed, abbey, ewok, bees, keys.

@curtisjudd 4 года назад

@@peruperu-jj8zs Excellent - thank you! I will practice that. Hero-se. Hero-se. Hero-se. 😀

@jmakitchen 3 года назад

Mixpre

@curtisjudd 3 года назад

Yes.

@jmakitchen 3 года назад

@@curtisjudd Curtis, I’m stuck between getting the zoom f6 or mixpre 6 ii, and getting the rode ntg3 or mkh 416...... planing to shoot some documentaries soon. Is like a onetime thing that I will be using for a long time, but I just don’t know why I can’t figure out which one to get😓! Been watching your videos for the past 4 days and I still couldn’t figure out which to get🤣

@curtisjudd 3 года назад

@@jmakitchen If it were me, I'd use the MixPre.

@jmakitchen 3 года назад

@@curtisjudd ok thanks, I will get it than lol!

@curtisjudd 3 года назад

@@jmakitchen Happy recording!