Great review, as always! There are always a lot of moving parts for a Mizuno shoe. Some of the early Riders do not look like real running shoes, but more Tamiya models of running shoes. Haven't tried the 24 yet but I ran in many previous models of the Rider. The wave plate is the one component that gives Mizuno shoes a firm ride quality. It's not just firmness but a feel of flatness or stability that the plate tends to produce. I believe the same plate template was used in many models of the Rider, that is, until Rider 24. Would be interesting to see how this changes the shoe, together with the introduction of the new foam.
Not a marathon runner, I run, only 6-12 miles per week + sprinting only for endurance for playing tennis and table tennis, but I really like this Wave Rider 24. I'm not a heel striker but never had issues of the shoe wanting me to become a heel striker. That said, the cushioning in the heel is great. I did use it as a walking shoe on a couple days and super comfy. I like both the Wave Rider 24 and the Hoka Rincon, although they feel quite different from each other.
I bought this shoe, and ran a total of 50 miles in it and and decided I didn’t like it for running. now I just use it for walking. I now run in the Saucony endorphin speed and shift shoes. And I love them 👍
Being a 200+ runner the WR has been great. Even better than the Triumph 17. The high cushion shoes like Bondi and Clifton can feel like quick sand for a heavy runner. The WR 24 has a great combo of forefoot ground feel and heel springy cushion. YMMV.
I like this version of the Waverider compared to the 22 or 23, while they didn't add full length Enerzy foam, the addition of it is noticeable, its more cushioned and slightly more bouncy, plus they changed the Wave Plate. Its not as pronounced compared to previous and they made it shorter. The shoe has much better flex than previous models. I am a heel striker so i like the upgrades, and am pretty tolerant of the 12mm stack height, it actually runs more like a shoe with a 10mm stack height for me. The engineered mesh versions of the shoe seems to run half size big, i also have the knit version which runs true to size. But i prefer the fit and feel of the engineered mesh version after running in both for a month.
@@loque69 the higher the drop, the higher your heels are lifted. Its like wearing a high heel while running. Not a neutral feeling compare to low drop shoe
I understand from branding they can't turn off their faithful (like Asics). But they could do the Asics thing and build a modern shoe and call it something else! (Wave Rider Lite! EnerzyBlast!)
I've noticed most fans of the previous Mizuno Wave Rider are older, probably because we tend toward heel strike. A couple of my adidas shoes with a similar design are better suited to a bit more heel strike or shuffle-jogging rather than outright running. Shoes like the Solar Boost and UA Hovr Sonic encourage me to run with less heel strike and bit more neutral foot angle and ball of the foot or midfoot angle.
I get the impression that this is a competitor to the ghost 13s of the shoe-niverse. Unless I'm doing a lot of hill work, 12mm drops don't work for me either. But our butts look great in them. Maybe12mm shoes are the key to activated glutes.
Totally agree with the drop issue. Mizuno obviously stick to his tradition. For a full length Enerzy midsole you could give a try to the Wave Rider Neo but the 12mm drop is still there. Beside that the Neo has got also a problem with the upper, too stretchy in my opinion (I would suggest u half size down, compared to the Rider 24 if you are going to try that model next)
I am also an asian, designed for asian feet, amazed for the fit, however, the heel drop makes me think for finding the better options. I chose Mizuno Wave Sky 3 which the heel drop is 10 mm. But excluding this heel drop, this shoe is good choice for the heel strikers.
Testing the wave rider neo later on. Seems a little lighter than this one? Certainly a different upper with lots of neoprene. Was the wave rider 23 a 12 mm drop too?
I didn't like the fit and feel on this mesh version. The Waveknit feels like a totally different shoe. It has a more dialed-in fit, and the geometry underneath the foot in the forefoot is different, too; it curves up more. I was hoping to like the mesh version as that grey colorway looks really sharp. The Waveknit runs super smooth, though; probably my favorite daily trainer of 2020 besides NB 1080V10.
I used to be a real Mizuno fan. I even ran the New York City Marathon in the Wave Rider. But Mizuno shoes have become (for me) increasingly a firm ride. I have left them. Mizuno needs to make a softer daily trainer. But, I still like the look of mizuno running shoes.
Mizuno has softer shoes as well. Sky is their softest, ultima between the rider and the sky. What you won't get from Mizuno is a soft shoe that's also very light, because they know it won't last long and that's not their way. I like that because I see people changing shoes every 150 miles nowadays and that is just a waste of money in my opinion. If you go for the knitted versions they tend to be softer as well.
Not really sure what the point is of putting the hyped new foam only in the heel, when the majority of runners are probably mid- or fore-foot strikers.
With all respect, I believe the majority of runners are heel strikers. I’m including ALL runners, not just “serious” runners, fast runners, high-mileage runners, and of course elites, etc. My coach’s wife who is a shoe specialist (she’s worked for a few of the big name brands) claims most people at least slightly touch down at least briefly on the rear lateral corners of their feet even if they’re midfoot strikers. I know this doesn’t apply to people who never get off their forefeet but that is undoubtedly the minority of runners. That being said, I certainly wouldn’t want a shoe with this much drop, and I favor much lighter shoes. Martha
I totally agree with Martha here. People think they run in the midfoot/forefoot, and they do when they are sprinting for 1-200 meters. But most people, studies have shown this, land on their heel even though they are not aware of it. It makes total sense from a scientific perspective, and that's generally Mizuno's approach to things.
Because most people land on the heel. I saw this research that was done with ultrarunners, a group that advocates running on the midfoot. They all thought they were running on the midfoot/forefoot, while they actually, with gait analysis, proved that 9 out of 10 landed on their heel. I like having a soft landing, and a firmer toe-off, for me the Rider makes total sense. And then maybe they tried to limit the cost as well. All full Mizuno Enerzy shoes are very expensive.
Our new foam is 15% lighter . . so we're going to replace 10% of the foam with 15% lighter foam . . hey Mizuno that's only a 1.5% overall weight reduction, aka not hardly worth noting. I hate marketing gimmicks.
I haven't tried them. I hope they have mid support. Bottom weighted is not smooth. They could make 2 versions. One that's more snug. Foam supports. Can mash down easier. I think I like snug in the toes but not slim. This is a simple idea! Thanks. Righteousness guides. Unknown. Col311. Tadpole. Psa99;9-outside. B careful!!!
