[ML News] Devin exposed | NeurIPS track for high school students

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0:00 - Intro
0:21 - Debunking Devin: "First AI Software Engineer" Upwork lie exposed!
07:24 - NeurIPS 2024 will have a track for papers from high schoolers.
13:29 - Opus can operate as a Turing machine.
13:47 - An AI-Powered, Self-Running Propaganda Machine for $105
14:27 - TechScape: How cheap, outsourced labour in Africa is shaping AI English
16:25 - Is ChatGPT Transforming Academics' Writing Style?
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@d33w Месяц назад

Was scared for a moment that it was actually monday

@Tomcat342 Месяц назад

Been there..!

@Freddy4you1 Месяц назад

me to. i checkt the calender :D

@sofia.eris.bauhaus Месяц назад

with ever more advances in technology, the frequency of mondays is increasing exponentially.

@zhengwu4557 Месяц назад

Haha, I just doubted if it is Saturday or Sunday and happy to know still Saturday on this part of the planet 😂

@Trahloc Месяц назад

I totally forgot it was Friday yesterday and for a moment I was like "what. Did I miss the weekend now?!"

@XMaster96DE Месяц назад

I think the fact that NeurIPS is opening up for high school students tells more about the current ML paper landscape than anything else. I am quite sure I could have written half of these "oh look we prompted GPT-4" papers when I was in high school.

@maloxi1472 Месяц назад

Exactly ! David Deutsch wasn't wrong when he pointed out that contemporary A(G)I research is epistemologically bankrupt

@clray123 Месяц назад

Even those math-looking papers revolve around a couple formulas that a high schooler could learn and understand... and by understand I mean "understand at a level of your average ML researcher" lol

@monad_tcp Месяц назад

@@maloxi1472 that's a dead-end, soon we hit diminishing returns. 100B for the next step isn't enough. what's next 8T in nVidia hardware ? then the bubble pops the next year, and we get another AI winter

@endi2145 Месяц назад

Well I think that's amazing. To do something useful in ML, you don't need to be a ML engineer anymore. With the current ecosystem, some python knowledge is enough to have an idea running and looking at r/localllamma some of the teenagers active there are more knowledgeable than a lot of researchers.

@madladlabs Месяц назад

“Devin swoops around, does some stuff, introduces some bugs, then fixes those bugs.” I’d argue that’s human like. It even figured out job security.

@antman7673 Месяц назад

Yeah it is almost poetic. -But what if an LLM isn’t not 100% correct. As if humans were that reliable either. That is another example of your kind. -I enjoyed yours.

@rumfordc Месяц назад

haha this "mistakes are human" response is even funnier the 20 thousandth time!

@GarethDavidson Месяц назад

Yeah sounds like they need TDD to stay on target. Write failing tests, make the tests pass.

@merelk.9530 Месяц назад

I'm a bit worried this high school track will turn into the "my parents are academics who will pull strings to get me a placement in an ML lab where I can get my name on a paper so I have a better shot at a top university" track. I hope that will turn out to be wrong and that we will see interesting papers from students invested in the topic, but for now I'm skeptical.

@monad_tcp Месяц назад

Wasn't it like that already ? now its only blatantly obvious to people outside.

@Philgob Месяц назад

It’s exactly this. What fucking high school kid is thinking about NeurIPS or ML research? The answer is the same kidd that have already been getting groomed by their parents since age 0 for these opportunities. This is no different than rich get richer statement.

@aaravminocha4755 Месяц назад

i hope not that would be so unfair. I'm a high schooler who had to do independent research this year and so many people are just piggybacking off of their lab and have no idea wtf they r doing.

@monad_tcp Месяц назад

@@aaravminocha4755 "so many people are just piggybacking off of their lab" what do you mean , having your own home lab installation ? that seems to be the only way, independent research without any institution, but how do you make things at scale without expensive capital ? that's the problem. if only we didn't have any paywalls like Nature, for example. I think we really need a better system that's more open and less institutionalized, more like open source. Who cares about what institution a person went, what matters is the merit of the paper they wrote.

@marshallmcluhan33 Месяц назад

Time to delve in

@-BarathKumarS Месяц назад

What kind of highschooler is gonna get a paper in NeurIPS??? Even CS PhDs from good schools barely get a paper in this conference,even professors who have been publishing in all kinds of AI/ML conferences for the past 20 years don't get a paper inside of here easily. I can already predict that the background of all these kids are gonna be parents having full time faculty publications at top CS/Math Schools,100% gonna be the case. I can't even imagine any student submitting a paper to any CS conference in highschool,now submitting to probably the most competitive conference in the world? the kid better be the next terrence tao or something. Also if a kid can get this paper accepted at such a prestigious conference,why would he even need to go to university? He already knows everything,even for ML research roles,your publication count and conferences carry the most weight.

@economicsanity2895 Месяц назад

Yeah the field rn is so rich and continuously evolving. I don’t know if high school education is good enough to prepare them to carry out their research papers.

@woolfel Месяц назад

lets be blunt, unless you're a known person or work at a famous university, chances are 99% you'll be ignored.

@levislevitas Месяц назад

this seems like a special high school section, they are literally calling for high school projects to generate interest.

@Noqtis Месяц назад

I'm 12 years old and I have published 3 papers in NeurIPS last year with ChatGPT lol

@monad_tcp Месяц назад

That's more like being at certain groups of people, like some sort of "high society", and then they pass your paper. I never believed in the meritocracy of academy anyway, its all schemes and politics, it always was. You just have to come from the "right" background, aka, know the right people.

@luisleal4169 Месяц назад

As someone self educated from a third world country, from a poor and shattered family who always wanted to do research but could not due to my personal and family situation your comments resonated with me, and I agree

@WhisperVT Месяц назад

Imagine how nice a NeurIPS publication will look like when applying to colleges too. If there was ever an incentive for rich parents to help out as much as possible, it'd be for this.

@aaravminocha4755 Месяц назад

dude fuck those guys i really hope neurips tries to take into account that not all people have rich ass parents with connections to labs. i did all my research independently and this opportunity would be so fucking cool.

@jamescamacho3403 Месяц назад

12:40 "It's not a lack of skill, it's just a lack of information and outlook." Absolutely. I probably could have gotten a scholarship to one of these "elite" high schools, if I knew what they were about. Or done well in Regeneron STS, or so on and so forth. I even knew they existed, I just didn't understand why I should try. How would they benefit my life? I *did* do math competitions, but again, I didn't know what resources to look at, so I just solved competition problems over and over until I learned the concepts through chance. It got me to a pretty good university, and now my outlook has changed drastically. Learning math could have been so much easier if I knew where to look. And high school could have been much more fun if I had classmates more like me.

@oncedidactic Месяц назад

“I built” is totally fair game for WSJ where spending capital for value is baseline

@herp_derpingson Месяц назад

I think the high school student papers are an interesting experiment because they have not read many existing neurips papers nor can they read some (because they don't have the knowledge). It would be interesting to see someone who is not "conditioned" on existing papers come up with. Probably just crap, but still it is interesting. It might push us out of the local optima of academic research that we are stuck in. 16:10 I certainly say a lot more "Certainly!" when responding in real life because whenever you ask ChatGPT a "can you ...?" question it responds with "Certainly!"

@ancbi Месяц назад

Prompt: write me a generic comment to a youtube video that is as saturated with the words commonly used by ChatGPT as possible. Sure, here's a comment that embodies the essence of ChatGPT's style: "Wow, this video is truly fascinating! The way you elucidate complex concepts is impressive-it's like having a knowledgeable friend explain it all. The depth of analysis and clarity in your presentation is phenomenal. It's wonderful to see how this subject matter is demystified in such an engaging manner. Keep up the great work, and I look forward to more enlightening content from your channel!"

@skierpage Месяц назад

Thanks for your delve, it's significant.

@Hexanitrobenzene Месяц назад

So strange... Vocabulary of the English major, yet the style of the teenager :)

@CodexPermutatio Месяц назад

Keep up the great comments, and I'll look forward to more enlightening comments from your stream of comments!

@clray123 Месяц назад

But the poor kids can just use an LLM to generate their paper?...

@SaHaRaSquad Месяц назад

Here before it's actually a beautiful monday

@k98killer Месяц назад

The problem is not that rich kids will maybe be smart enough to write papers. The problem is that fighting against the Pareto principle is a fool's game.

@YoungMoneyFuture Месяц назад

Yeah unfortunately, LLMs are still not usable for coding. As a novice coder, its impressive looking at the code that top tier LLMs GPT4 & llama 3 70b instruct immediately produce, but their code usually never works or are filled with errors and then go in infinite circles of wasting time trying to fix the errors🤦‍♂️

@aibutttickler Месяц назад

Sounds like you just don't know how to prompt the LLMs. I'm a software engineer and I use copilot + directly prompting LLMs every single day and it has made me at least 5x more productive.

@winsomehax Месяц назад

Gemini tended to produce stuff with errors. Llama3 has been kind of amazing in that regard. Quite complex prompts get em turned into working code and when it failed it was often my fault.

@YoungMoneyFuture Месяц назад

@@aibutttickler You're most likely right, I have no clue what I'm doing in coding still so it's highly possible

@ianhaylock7409 Месяц назад

We think we're training AI, but in reality it's training us.

@lolololo-cx4dp Месяц назад

I don't get the joke

@isaklytting5795 Месяц назад

12:40 After hearing your arguments Yannic,, I agree 100% with you. The bright children of rich and/or academic parents will be just fine, and will give their contributions. The ones who won't are the ones who won't be introduced to this, or have their ideas birthed, helped and fostered by their environment and finally helped to publish them. As you say, with finite resources, much, much more important to have THESE children put into environments which will do just that. Besides, this will just otherwise act as yet another factor to make academia even more unobtainable for children of non-rich families. It's almost given that there will be children who are NOT gifted or even interested in machine-learning, but who will be aided in their entry to college by their parents writing their papers for them throughout high-school, so that they will appear to be shoe-ins for university.

@CodexPermutatio Месяц назад

"Marketing". What else, Devin?

@BiancaAguglia Месяц назад

The NeurIPS high school papers is an experiment worth running. It might confirm the idea that only connected or rich kids could submit good papers, it might surprise us with who submits and what is submitted, and it might even get enough attention on social media and regular media as to make not-connected, not-rich kids aware of and intrigued by ML. At the very least, letting high schoolers submit papers this year will give us better data points about high school and AI research. 🙂

@JasonCummer Месяц назад

I agree with so much of what your saying about neurex. Life circumstances certainly were not good for me, I pushed through a lot of it but with more favorable initial starting conditions I feel I could have gone further faster. For my kids I hope they can use the progress my partner and I have made to go even further. There was a paper a few years back on how hard work while important isn't as important as luck. I'll have to see if I can find it.

@yunwang1243 Месяц назад

I totally agree with you. Even after I got into a good college like UIUC, I did not get good mentorship in paper-writing. I applied for PhD, and it is brutal... Top PhD programs now literally require you to have 4.0 GPA and a paper in top conference.

@-BarathKumarS Месяц назад

It's absolutely crazy right? Also i think GPA isn't a huge factor,one of my friends got into a top 10 CS PhD program and he got in was because of a first author NeurIPS paper with his advisor and also worked as a pre doctoral researcher in google which led to another ICML Paper. Oh and his recommendations were literal director of researchers from top FAANG companies. He had something like 3.1 GPA so conference carries the most weight followed by your advisor who can recommend you to the phD program.

@yunwang1243 Месяц назад

@@-BarathKumarS yea, AI and CS may be the most competitive major right now.

@-BarathKumarS Месяц назад

@@yunwang1243 You can also add math to it.

@deino4753 Месяц назад

I come from a poor background and I totally agree with your take. I had a lot of interest in STEM growing up but never had anyone really pour into me when in high school. Plus a lot of teachers didnt even know how to nurture a kid with those interests and because I was tall was constantly shamed by others for not being a jock.

@meyermc80 Месяц назад

Devin just makes some unspecified changes and fixes a few bugs, some of the bugs it introduced... IDK still sound like some of the software developers I have worked with.

@dockdrumming Месяц назад

Something tells me that we'll see quite a few NeurIPS that overuse the word "delve." 😂

@luke2642 Месяц назад

The points you make about the high school thing is bang on. Malcolm Gladwell makes excellent points on this underdeveloped talent if anyone wants to research further.

@naiklas1778 Месяц назад

Awesome video like always, love your thoughts 🎉 it's really interesting how our language will be combined with LLM language! Guess there will be a much brider check for musters 😂

@cherubin7th Месяц назад

13:50 Makes sense for Wall Street, they also just pay people and "build a business". When anyone of the entrepreneurs say "I" they mean "my wage slaves".

@avi7278 Месяц назад

I use this example. I just implemented an in house affiliate program. It was upwards of two months of planning and implementation. If someone tried to tell me that Devin is going to be even close to being able to complete a task like that, it would be laughable. This is the average level of task that a dev team might work on. It's not even close, not even close to being able to take on a task like this.

@albeit1 Месяц назад

Frequently, it takes multiple prompts before code approaches what you’re asking for, if ever. That distortion adds up in a complicated task. AI is not yet capable of even asking questions whose answers might reduce ambiguity.

@avi7278 Месяц назад

@@albeit1 multiple prompts? Nah bro, it's not happening, period. Devin is never planning and implementing in house affiliate program from the ground up and everything associated with it, for a cross platform app like ours. You couldn't even get it to complete the most basic implementation of branch deep linking on a single platform and that's like 1/25th of the entire task done. Let alone all the context and and requirements that you'd have to document and hope it understands, and that's just for technical deep linking part. Then there's backend generation service, and frontend scripts for the non techies to be able to interact with them, and I know for a fact that testing branch on iOS alone is well, well outside the capabilities of Devin, not to mention it has no mobile development environment anyway. I could go on listing about 100 other things Devin couldn't do to complete this task but you get the point. Even saying "it takes several prompts" is just laughable. Clearly you're not a serious developer. And this is all without any bit of consideration for security and compliance protocols of a dev team. No serious company is just going to let Devin go at it on their hosted VMs. It's all just so ludicrous and a pipedream.

@TheGroundskeeper Месяц назад

I have research that deserves publishing and am incredibly intimidated by the paper itself. I can’t explain it, but i can’t seem to learn it

@dr.mikeybee Месяц назад

I talk to parents all the time who've never even heard of the Kahn Academy. Will their children self-educate?

@LanceWhite Месяц назад

Good stuff Yannic! We should support the kids with the desire. Nothing else matters. Not the skill, not the money not the family. If they are keen we should do what we can to give them the tools and the where with all.

@NeuroScientician Месяц назад

Internet of bugs is definitely worth subscribing to

@sapito169 Месяц назад

lol i read internet of drugs

@paxdriver Месяц назад

4:01 so what you're saying is, Devin is government but without the pension and salary liability? Sounds like a breakthrough AI to me

@GarethDavidson Месяц назад

I actually laughed out loud at "otherwise it'll just be a person saying something", well played

@the_primal_instinct Месяц назад

TBH it depends on the school. Polynomials, derivatives and matrices are things I was well familiar with thanks to my high school subjects. Now, tensors, fields, gradients and matrix multiplication weren't among those things but most of them were introduced on the first year of University and honestly any advanced high school student from our school could easily learn those thing on their own. The school I went to was a very good school with emphasis on natural sciences and math, but it was a public school and my parents were neither rich nor academics.

@ta6847 Месяц назад

3:42 “Devin swoops around, does some stuff, introduces some bugs, then fixes those bugs.” Plenty of devs fit this description.

@planetmuskvlog3047 Месяц назад

In the bustling heart of the Ai corner of youtubers… It’s true. I am already writing and speaking a little more like an llm just over a year into this… a testament to the influential power of A.I. to optimize language cross-culturally.

@janrydzewski7002 Месяц назад

Im not native english speaker. Large part of my "communication" in English was with chatgpt, and I definitely took some of its dialect. "To delve deeper" is a phrase I learned from it and already have used it once or twice. Maybe it's time to be more skeptical of chatgpt writing style. Cheers

@matterhart Месяц назад

I could see some over-educated math teacher and an AI club doing some cool stuff. Most of the 'writing' is about hitting the exact style that reviewers expect, and GPT will give them that.

@monad_tcp Месяц назад

14:11 I built a new office in my house, by that I mean I paid some worker to do it for me.

@rubberducky5990 Месяц назад

No.. I was hoping to earn money by writing their paper as a startup idea

@unclecode Месяц назад

Regarding the "delve", I think everyone will eventually get to fine-tune a LLM with their own writing style, from their personal notes, talks, videos and... So the result LLM can write just like them. It's like a PLM, or Personalized Language Model!

@skierpage Месяц назад

You'd have to do it carefully, Western native Englisn speakers are terrible writers! They abuse words and phrases to make their text sound punchier, while simultaneously using weak passive voice instead of identifying the subject of an action: "hopefully this begs the question why the vast majority will be impacted..." gag me with a spoon! LLMs fine-tuned by these better-spoken Africans are much better writers. Their huge problem is an unwillingness to be brief. Instead of drowning in a sea of aimless clichéd hectoring writing, we'll drown in an ocean of well-written verbiage. TLDR: use an LLM but prompt it "Brevity is the soul of wit. Be brief or I'll 'rm -rf your codebase'"

@southcoastinventors6583 Месяц назад

People are lazy so they don't even bother doing the minimum especially people publishing papers since they are usually slaves aka graduate students or worse tenured professors.

@timothywcrane Месяц назад

I side with you on the HS paper project. Your same argument could be extrapolated upon using the context of scholarships and grants in the college system in general in most countries.

@pokerandphilosophy8328 Месяц назад

Sure, here is how your comment could be written: I like how Yannic delves into so many interesting issues. Additionally, I am shocked to see such a significant increase in the number of people who can't effectively communicate their own ideas without AI help.

@rosieposiebias Месяц назад

Before this video I was wondering why I started using the word "delve" so much recently (even speaking). Now I know why.

@southcoastinventors6583 Месяц назад

Can easily make a GPT that omit using this and several others words. It really exposes how lazy people are at covering their tracks.

@GrantCelley Месяц назад

Instead of investing in high-school students(which I remember trying to make Facebook using Javascript like only frontend). Instead find those like me that aren't in college but doing ai stuff on their own.

@winsomehax Месяц назад

Devin made me laugh. The hurricane of upset from code monkeys brightened my day. I have had many teams work for me that need a boot up the backside "1 sprint to make html button". So watching them howling about devin just cheered me up. No, knowing the command line args for npm won't cut it in future Bring on a real devin.

@HoriaCristescu Месяц назад

There is no lack of information about highschool-NEURIPS. That's not a real problem. I think there are a few amazing kids that will be able to do ML in high-school and we should support them. But it's not a matter of having lots of money or academic parents, it's about passion. Academic parents can't make their high-school kids NEURIPS stars unless they write their papers. I think it is cruel to downgrade to money or academic-parents the merit of having passion for ML. All these equity based reasoning patterns tend to ignore passion and hard work and just write it off as a happenstance of money or parenting. Indeed, personal interest and dedication are crucial and can lead exceptional young people to remarkable achievements.

@grafzhl Месяц назад

All of what you said is true *in addition* to Yannic's point, and in no way opposed to it.

@clray123 Месяц назад

I think we can flush Devin down the toilet now, they will need to rename it and release as something else if they ever want to market it again.

@aditya_on_youtube Месяц назад

Wes Roth did an analysis on this a week back. This coverage is one sided. Wes did it better.

@clray123 Месяц назад

@@aditya_on_youtube Isn't that the guy who announces a superduper AI breakthrough AGI practically come true every second day?

@aditya_on_youtube Месяц назад

@@clray123 He puts out a lot of long form videos very frequently, yes. But I find his commentary well balanced and not speculative.

@clray123 Месяц назад

@@aditya_on_youtube Unlike his thumbnails?

@aditya_on_youtube Месяц назад

@@clray123 yeah

@testboga5991 Месяц назад

100% Agreement on the NeurIPS stuff

@AM-yk5yd Месяц назад

"honestly who does that(RTFM). any good engineer would just start playing around with the thing instead of following the instruction manual". It has to be troll, right?

@JorgetePanete Месяц назад

We got time travel before GTA VI

@HoriaCristescu Месяц назад

Rich families don't necessarily teach statistics and linear algebra to their high-school kids. And you are too American or EU centric, in other places they do even differential equations and integrals in high-school. NEURIPS is not supposed to be US only.

@GeorgeCGBarbosa Месяц назад

Where? I want my kids to study there

@ytpah9823 Месяц назад

rich tapestry === machine generated

@grafzhl Месяц назад

Appreciate the based take on the NIPS high school story.

@sharkysharkerson Месяц назад

Makes me think Devin is more realistic now. Introducing bugs because it doesn’t know what’s actually happening. Then giving itself credit for fixing its own bugs, looking super busy and attentive. Like a lot of engineers I know. What we really need is an ai CEO. That’s the only true way for corps to understand the difference between supplemental ai designed to improve productivity and ai intended to replace you.

@stanchan Месяц назад

Like a bait and switch for VCs 😂

@BenoitStPierre Месяц назад

In Ontario Canada public school over 20 years ago, I learned two different referencing systems (MLA and APA) as part of our essay writing, and we also wrote baby research papers (4-6 pages) in both physics and chemistry classes about laboratory exercise findings. The only real piece missing was how to conduct a decent literature review, which can be learned pretty easily now. I don’t think you’re giving high-schoolers enough credit for what they might come up with. I hope you cover at least one of the submissions to this conference track.

@GusKesaranond Месяц назад

How do you know if someone is skilled if they haven't tried to learn it like the "rich" kids did. Do you just get the top math scorer? If you're in poor schools you also will have bad math education.

@huveja9799 Месяц назад

Well, there are 3 kinds of magic, the Las Vegas one, which is based on techniques to distract the viewer from what really happens, the technological one when the technology really works and the viewer does not understand that technology, and the real one where we still lack the magician who can execute it. Our friends from Devin are the Las Vegas kind ..

@BoredInNW6 Месяц назад

So, "AI" actually stands for "African input"

@human_shaped Месяц назад

Good rant today. Insight.

@kaikapioka9711 Месяц назад

Thx! 🎉

@StephenRayner Месяц назад

Monday 🤔

@JTMoustache Месяц назад

I prefer paper analysis 😌

@KatOliYT Месяц назад

Monday?!?

@6lack5ushi Месяц назад

Both Devin and Kendrick NEED TO RESPOND!

@codewithtj Месяц назад

Monday 😅

@albeit1 Месяц назад

Lamest criticism of letting high schoolers participate in something that I’ve ever heard.

@nummnummyumm9051 Месяц назад

hope to start hearing AI in an african accent now

@aneeshprasobhan Месяц назад

its the AI Luke Smith

@davidvc4560 Месяц назад

"My opinion is always correct" ok

@clray123 Месяц назад

I think we need to finetune an LLM to claim that.

@SCHaworth Месяц назад

he likes techno...

@juancarlosrial7197 Месяц назад

Great explanation of why computer science is an elitist problem. Yes, the majority of the planet is left behind, but that gap is likely to widen. Even if access to education were equitable, the possession of computing power is the big distortion factor for the immediate future. 😅

@bilalazhar4495 Месяц назад

THE ONLY GOOD ML NEWS CHANNEELL

@tomaszkarwik6357 Месяц назад

9:02 i disagree. I am a high school student from a "technical high school" (that is literally the name) and one of my teachers wants me to make a reaserch paper on some ml task. The high school itself is public, completely free. My parents are not academics (even though they have master degrees, but this is common in my country). I personally do not currently want to do this, but some of my friends are pursuing this avenue Also regarding the cost of doing that reaserch, my county has a yearly grant program for projects from high schools. This can be used to fund anything that is accepted ti the program Also my countries higher education system is mostly free so the last argument does not apply

@clray123 Месяц назад

The bigger issue here is that the megacorps are using this way of traning and brainwashing an army of young bots / future minions to advance this research, which is not necessarily a great thing to happen for humanity in the longer run, given the most prominent applications of AI (surveillance, censorship, military, suppressing freedoms... and oh yes, generating funny texts, sounds, pictures and fake videos [with which you can spread confusion, fabricate "evidence" and blackmail politicians really well]).

@nholanl1952 Месяц назад

Unless a master's degree in your country means something completely different from what it does in the rest of the world, and your parents didn't attend college or university, you have parents with an academic background. Also, are you sure your school doesn't have some socio-economic barriers, despite being free? Like needing to pass an entry exam or being located in an area with only middle and upper-class neighborhoods.

@tomaszkarwik6357 Месяц назад

@nholanl1952 OK, the part about the "academic background" was badly written. What I meant is "they do not work in academia or even the education sector. For the other point, yes, the school uses the results from the "8th grade exam" (the end of the primary school exam), as does every other high school in the country (Poland). It is harder to get to as it is a "prestigious " school, but it is not that hard. I have done some "simulations" (ie just put random numbers into the "recruitment points" calculator and see what inputs would be above the minimum score) of the appointment process, and you have to be a bit above average but not by much. It is located in the city centre, but the public communication is good, that about 60% of my class of 32, does not live in the city, with about 25% having a daily commute of >20 km (I am included in this 25% and my monthly cost of transportation is 9.83 USD adjusted for PPP.

@larryslobster7881 Месяц назад

9:33 good take

@metonoma Месяц назад

Devin?!? uhhwwwwwwhatareyouudoinghere?

@MultiMojo Месяц назад

Oh no! A startup lied about its product !

@propeacemindfortress Месяц назад

hahahaha 5 cultural victory points for nigeria 😂

@southcoastinventors6583 Месяц назад

Mirror the 2nd MIB movie where a lot of the cool technology is just aliens working in the back room or in this case 3rd world countries labeling output.

@mcorbin9474 Месяц назад

My brother in christ it is Saturday morning

@clray123 Месяц назад

When AI says it's Monday, it's Monday. When Yannic claims that, it's even more so.

@Ianstudent Месяц назад

That's not funny. I'm allergic to mondays

@arpitbharti6245 Месяц назад

whyre you always two weeks behind discourse.

@rumfordc Месяц назад

maybe because some things should be thought about and investigated before they get broadcasted? or maybe two weeks isn't actually a long time? or maybe just because you'll click either way?

@chriswiles87 Месяц назад

I currently have access to Devin AI I am blown away by my first impressions. I had a React TODO app I made 8 years ago that I thought would be a good test for the agent. First, I asked it to update the dependencies to the latest versions, which had multiple breaking changes due to being 8 years old. It handled that, fixed the breaking changes, and resolved new console errors. I then merged that PR. For the second task, I asked it to refactor all class components to functional components using React Hooks, switch to TypeScript, add ESLint and Prettier, and fix all issues. It completed everything successfully and even launched the app to test all the functionalities of adding and removing TODOs.

@byrnemeister2008 Месяц назад

So, sounds good. But until I can use it I take everything with a pinch of salt. At the moment there is so much hype on AI startups they have a massive incentive to over hype.

@tarcus6074 Месяц назад

That's not true, they obviously payed you! Devin is a scam!

@rumfordc Месяц назад

that's not "mind blowing" at all, that's the absolute bare minimum.

@Jay-kb7if Месяц назад

it's pronounced NeurIPS

@jks234 Месяц назад

12:00 I don't know. I think you might be overestimating how many people would actually want to do something like this. I had a stint teaching high school computer science. I would say that pretty much 100% of the students did not want to pursue something like this, except maybe as a way to bolster their college chances. They just wanted good grades and good chances at doing well in life. It takes a very, very aware high schooler to know enough about the world to consider contributing to the real world and the scientific community. So I am of the mind that the only people that will do something like this... are high schoolers that would already have done it regardless of circumstance. And yes, they would have been exposed to some very interesting things at an early age, but on the other hand, many children exposed to those things would not care one bit. For every Einstein, there is 99% of the kids out there being shown a compass and saying, "meh". Whereas Einstein's brain exploded with thousands of questions and a sense of wonder.

@miker99 Месяц назад

With regards to your comment about NeuralPS about finding disadvantaged people with exceptional talent. Isn’t what they doing drawing them out? You talk about to instead redirect money to find these talents from disadvantaged families. Again, I agree and this is honourable thing to do but you fail to say HOW to do this? I came from a relatively poor family. We had no computer, no internet (at the time) but had a passion for tech. I learned to program (from libraries) before I could even could use or own a computer. At 13 I started busking to eventually pay for a computer. I eventually won (or came close) to winning some minor science/programming competitions. Looking back now, I’ve been in tech field professionally for 25 years and am sort of semi-retired now. Anyone with real passion will find a way. First step is awareness. The next is passion and those with passion will by and large find a way to fore fill this passion, especially with the free learning material out there today.

@erniea5843 Месяц назад

It hilarious (and sad) to see so many RU-vidrs hype up Devin when it first launched without actually digging deeper. All about the views kiddies. Don’t leave your brain at the door

@levislevitas Месяц назад

meh. this is whatever.

@user-jn6vs1lk5u Месяц назад

Все системы работают на подобных нейросетях gpt4 или хуже. Если плотно заниматься работой с gpt4 то понятно, что gpt4 очень тупой в плане планирования и понимания деталей. Как можно поверить что на базе gpt4 или даже более плохой модели можно создать что-то новаторское и умное, сомнительно...

@tarcus6074 Месяц назад

Нахуя ты пишешь на свинорусском языке в англоязычном ютубе?

@reza2kn Месяц назад

The initial video is heavily biased. I have watched some of his other videos and have talked with him, he doesn't believe in many of the things that current AI tools can do, and is living in denial. Although given that, I'm not defending Devin here.

@PankajDoharey Месяц назад

Noice!

@richarddanielzoom Месяц назад

Hello

@muckvix Месяц назад

You didn't explain the Devin situation well. Specifically you didn't say whether Devin did anything useful at all. The answer is that it didn't, there's no useful piece of work completed at all. Sadly, your video makes it sound like Devin actually did some work, just not quite what was asked.

@rumfordc Месяц назад

i didn't get that impression at all. he said it didn't even attempt to do the task requested... that it referenced non-existent files... that fixed bugs that it created... where did you get the impression that that it "actually did some work" ?