Model 74 "Carpati": Cugir's Romanian Walther Clone

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The Model 74 "Carpați" is a copy of the Walther PP made by the Cugir factory in Romania. The project began at the direction of the Romanian secret police, who delivered a worn out Walther to the factory in 1972 with a request that they produce a domestic copy. Work on the design took two years before the final product was ready in 1974, and was adopted at the Model 74 (although it is colloquially known as the "Carpați", after the Carpathian Mountains around Cugir).
The Model 74 has an aluminum alloy frame and a 90.5mm barrel, almost exactly splitting the difference between the barrel lengths of the PP and PPK. It is chambered for .32 ACP, and is pleasant and easy to shoot, capable of better accuracy than most would expect thanks to its fixed barrel design. It is a single/double action gun, with a decocting lever. The magazine capacity is 8, although users typically load 7 to reduce magazine fatigue - and in police use that standard set up was two magazines each loaded with just 6 rounds. The gun was designed for a minimum lifespan of 3,000 rounds fired.
Entering production in 1974, it quickly scaled up to 6000/month. Production ran until the early 1990s, with hundreds of thousands made. They were used by police and military forces in Romania and also exported widely. After the fall of communism in Romania, a Model 95 was made in two variations. One was a steel framed version in .380 caliber, made in small quantity mostly for export. The other was a copy of the Model 74 chambered for 9mm blanks, which was reasonably popular on the Romanian civilian market. It could be fitted with a less-lethal rubber ball launcher, and the purchase permit for such a pistol also served as a carry permit, allowing them to be kept for at least a minimal form of self-defense.
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@volvok7749 5 месяцев назад

The idea of firing some kind of pistol grenade in a self-defense situation sounds both hilarious and terrifying, for everyone involved.

@liamholt5623 5 месяцев назад

To be fair - pulling out a hand grenade is the ultimate "wow cool!"-argument: very difficult to counter.

@ze3934 5 месяцев назад

Its actually made so that germans can shoot fireworks, nothing to do with self defence, gun jesus got it wrong there.

@mikloskoszegi 5 месяцев назад

You can fire rockets too. (jokes aside, that adapter could shoot tiny 15mm fireworks/flares)

@n0tthemessiah 5 месяцев назад

Brick, where'd you get a pistol grenade??

@thornie123 5 месяцев назад

Yet I would want one…

@CatMask556 5 месяцев назад

I like the backwards eotech on that HK416 up there

@denisonsmock5456 5 месяцев назад

I swear they did that just to mess with us.

@spehhhsssmarineer8961 5 месяцев назад

Goddamnit, I was going to comment about that.

@WH250398 5 месяцев назад

Whoever owned that probably didn't like himself much.

@wraithwyvern528 5 месяцев назад

It's for aiming at the people sneaking up from behind.

@CatMask556 5 месяцев назад

@@wraithwyvern528 esoteric knowledge that instagram operators don't want you to know.

@balkal6599 5 месяцев назад

It's still quite a standard issue, you can still see these pistols in different police and security service holsters, from Bucharest to the most forgotten village.

@ionicabanea6025 5 месяцев назад

@@lptomtom with how much shooting they see they re probably still under that 3k lifespan

@PassivePortfolios 5 месяцев назад

@@lptomtom If they qualify with 48 rounds annually like we do, 3k rounds expected service life can last up to 60 years.

@stanislavczebinski994 5 месяцев назад

@@lptomtom In most of Europe, Police officers actually firing their guns in anger is very rare. Lifetime officers often haven't fired once at a human in their whole career.

@AshleyPomeroy 5 месяцев назад

@@stanislavczebinski994 What about vampires? I mean, it might distract them for a split-second, long enough to escape.

@drupiROM 5 месяцев назад

@@AshleyPomeroy Why would we manufacture weapons that would kill us ?

@wilsonlaidlaw 5 месяцев назад

All Deutsche Reich patents before 1945, were annulled by the "London Agreement" of 1946, so effective the Walther designs from pre 45 were free for anyone to copy.

@gradh3123 5 месяцев назад

I bought a century arms import md 74 on gunbroker in 2022. Came across it by total chance and knew I had to have it. Snagged it for a bit less than 300 beans. To this day it's one of my most prized guns, I don't shoot it much but I just love weird .32s and everything Romanian.

@mynameisstilljafo4063 5 месяцев назад

I'm a big fan of old .32 pistols as well. Some really neat and a few oddball guns made in that caliber. I really enjoy my CZ 70.

@danfilon3349 5 месяцев назад

in 1996, all officers, non-commissioned officers and machine gunners were equipped with model 74 Carpathian pistols...in the battalion where I joined the army

@w00dy-18 5 месяцев назад

A stylish pistol, but insanely outdated in the 1996. It was already outdated when they put it in production in 1974 😂

@daniels0376 5 месяцев назад

@@w00dy-18You still see some cops equipped with them nowadays. Most got glocks though, you mostly see them in rural PDs and what not. The change was made very recently tho. 10 years ago this was still standard issue for all police.

@w00dy-18 5 месяцев назад

@@daniels0376 I thought Belgian Federal Police was using outdated equipment when they used the FN High Power untill 2011. At least that was a revolutionary pistol that was relevant untill the 80’s -90’s. I find it crazy that police officers use such a limited cartridge in 2024.

@mattalex543 5 месяцев назад

Love the 416s with sight marks and backwards eotechs in the background.

@Helvetica989 5 месяцев назад

why'd you have to go and point it out i'm so annoyed now

@micumatrix 5 месяцев назад

In 1968? you had the Prag uprising, where Romania refused to take part. It was said, that they forbade soviet troops to cross Romania to reach Prag. However there is the point, where Romania don’t get or doesn’t want to get any soviet material and they start doing their own copies, or they acquire western licenses. So the tank T85? is a bad Leopard 1 copy, you have the PSL, Carpati. Locomotives were a swiss license, cars Renault license, lorries were MAN license and even the only atomic power plant was made with help of Canadians. Ceausescu tried to do it a little like Tito and be „blockfree“.

@petrucercel9855 5 месяцев назад

The T85 is a T55 at heart, we wanted Leo1 egines for them but that fell through.

@gfhrtshergheghegewgewgew1730 5 месяцев назад

the first thing ian notices about a woman is the 1970s romanian walther pp at home she has in her holster

@Ava-uq5dh 5 месяцев назад

"Is that a 1977 production date Romanian Walther PP you have in your holster or are you just here to get me through customs?"

@GR46404 5 месяцев назад

I have had one of these for a number of years. It is a good shooter, and the grip is comfortable, but the gun has an alarming quirk. If you use the safety to decock the hammer on a loaded chamber while holding the gun sideways (sort of "gangsta" style), the gun fires. This does not happen if the gun is held upright while decocking. I do not know why this happens. Also, one thing that Ian does not mention is the magazine, which is different from the Walther magazine by having a spring-steel finger at the top left corner. Youi can see it in the shot that starts at 6:00. I assume it is to make activation of the last-shot hold-open more positive.

@adrianiacob1991 5 месяцев назад

Confirm the issue, that's why at the firing range I always avoided the use of de-cocker, personally preferred to remove magazine, remove cartridge from the chamber and dry fire for safety. Also I confirm that, despite small size, is a pretty accurate shooter, once you your muscle memory learn the right amount of power for holdover and fine trigger squeeze. Even targets at 40 meters, half hidden behind cover, were no problem to hit. Yeah, probably stopping power is weak compared to regular 9 mm, but still a deadly simple and reliable sidearm. Can't say the same thing unfortunately for 9 mm CUGIR pistol, IWI 941 copy (or licensed, never cared about it)

@leonida-alexandrudiaconu8660 5 месяцев назад

The Romanian fire fighters are military personnel and therefore required to do periodic training with small fire arms. The “Carpati” is what we used to shoot twice a year in the 2000’s and early 2010’s when I was in the fire fighters department. And if I’m not mistaken, they still use them today. Easy to shoot pistol, I could always make an about 8 cm group at 25 m.

@valvio1331 5 дней назад

In '91 we used AKM. :)

@cbsboyer 5 месяцев назад

The moment Ian mentioned a rubber ball being launched from the end of the pistol, I had visions of the ubiquitous cartoon gun shooting out a boxing glove to knock out their opponent.

@TheRadu21 5 месяцев назад

Very informative... I hope you'll more videos about Romaian guns , now that you've visited a Romanian collection :))

@Arghira 5 месяцев назад

I am surprised you were not told but these guns are notorious for the defect of firing when a cartige is in the chamber and safety is applied. It happened to me at Tunari firing range near Bucharest and I subsequentely become more appreciative of the redundant range rules.

@jrlewis3733 5 месяцев назад

I have found the firing pin in these pistols too long, and the hammer block safety piece too short to work properly. Have your Carapati check by a Gunsmith that knows Walthers.

@nannunbgd Месяц назад

Nu mi-sa intamplat

@thecolmike 5 месяцев назад

I love this little pistol. I purchased mine in the 80's when the Iron Curtain was lifted. This gun was marketed as a Hungarian FEG. My example has no arsenal mark like the one shown in the video and just below the slide on the frame is marked "FEG HUNGARY CAISTALBVT" Other books have said these pistols were made without markings so they could be sent out to friendly governments and not traced back to Romania. As stated in the video this pistol is extremely accurate. I think I have about 1k shot through it and no signs of excessive wear. I know it isn't worth much so I likely will keep it till i am dust. I do recall the ads in the Shotgun News that this was a Hungarian pistol but we all know now it came from Romania.

@thecolmike 5 месяцев назад

I know the CAI STA BVT is the import mark but the FEG HUNGARY is in the same font so I wonder if CAI added the FEW marking as well as the import mark.

@denisg2719 5 месяцев назад

This gun, at least in Romania has a bit of a reputation of being underpowered. There was an old myth from comunist times that if you wear a good thick jean jacket, the Carpati wouldn't be able to penetrate it.

@loochan325 5 месяцев назад

That's just BS... Standard for it was 4.75g@310m/s so 310^2x4.75/2000=228+J. Standard army .45ACP Colt 911 used 15g@255m/s so 483J 9 PARA NATO has 7.45g @ 380-411m/s depending on the barrel lenght 4-5" so 537-629J Sure if you have in that pocket something like an angle grinder ceramic disk sandwiched between two 1mm steel covers, then sure...

@denisg2719 5 месяцев назад

@@loochan325 yeah, that's why I said it was a myth

@jakekaywell5972 5 месяцев назад

European 32 ACP loads are without exception hotter than American ones. That' probably has to do with this gun's "underpowered" reputation. Personally, I use a Yugoslav Crvena Zastava Model 70 (another strange com-bloc pistol design) fairly regularly. With Fiocci loads, it can do a fair bit of damage.

@jrlewis3733 5 месяцев назад

Yes, agreed. 7.65 Browning is much stronger then most armchair commandos know or realize. .32 ACP is very penetrative, compared to other pistol rounds.

@TheHFRS 5 месяцев назад

This video actually helped me find a good lead on information about a video that I am in the process of making, even if I’m covering a different Romanian gun. Thank you for the video!!

@austinkeen4577 5 месяцев назад

Out of all the Carpati videos out there, this is easily one of them.

@onkelmicke9670 5 месяцев назад

Sherlock?

@cyrusfreeman9972 5 месяцев назад

Of all the Walther knock offs out there, the Carpati is easily one of them.

@jakekaywell5972 5 месяцев назад

@@cyrusfreeman9972 Not really a "knock-off", as that implies an unsanctioned reproduction. Since the 1946 London Agreement nullified any 1945 or older German patents, anyone with the facilities to do so could freely copy the Walther PP design. The more correct term would be "clone".

@cyrusfreeman9972 5 месяцев назад

@@jakekaywell5972 Perhaps pedantic, but perfectly precise!

@flickthenick 5 месяцев назад

I have one of these exact same pistols in my (UK) 'Walther' collection, it's nothing like a PP but then it is something like a PP! Great article thanks for sharing and so much info on something that is difficult to research on...

@PassivePortfolios 5 месяцев назад

These were popular (and still are) because they are small, light and easy to carry and an simple to manufacture, proven design.

@guristu 5 месяцев назад

Too bad romania doesn’t have a second amendment…

@kavky 5 месяцев назад

Our politicians know that what happened to Ceausescu can happen to them too.

@causewaykayak 5 месяцев назад

Every constitution shpuld have a clause preventing repeal of the right to keep and bear ams as an individual.

@guristu 5 месяцев назад

@@causewaykayak yeah, problem is the constitution of Romania has a clause that gives the state the right to "preventatively" arrest you based on hearsay. It assumes you are guilty by default.

@causewaykayak 5 месяцев назад

@@guristu Now that is awful. There was something I once heard about a fundamental difference between Roman and Saxon justice systems. The Roman system is as you describe. (we have evidence against you so prove us wrong ) versus that other which values liberty and puts the onus on the prosecutors. I'm not sure if theory matches practice these days in the west. 😂

@guristu 5 месяцев назад

@@causewaykayak it has to do with how people understand the concept of freedom, as well as other "fundamental" rights, in that part of the world. You are not born with rights, you are given rights by the state. It's the fundamental error of the Latin world with Bolshevik influences.

@brittakriep2938 5 месяцев назад

Forgotten: The grenade launcher lookalike item of blankpistol could be a fireworks launcher, which is common on blankpistols for german market. In Germany, don' t know situation outside, you have ordinary blanks, CS, OC / Pepper ( by law only to scare dangerous annimals), rarer extraloud blanks or ones with a very large bright flash of lightning.

@jailbird1133 5 месяцев назад

We had CS pistols in the US as well. But some places outlawed them or require it to be so weak, that you might as well just throw the pistol at them.

@jastreb1081 5 месяцев назад

From my experience the threaded cups on european blank guns are more often used to launch fireworks with the blanks, rather than rubber balls.

@DevinMoorhead 5 месяцев назад

Fricking early gang. Standing by

@horaya7528 5 месяцев назад

Fun fact: this is a very popular gun in Romanian culture, infamous for being inaccurate (we joke about it a lot)

@IcecalGamer 5 месяцев назад

OP is correct :)) The jokes about it came into be, because of the re-sell market of 3k+ ones :) (if i have my fax right)

@TacticalTerry 5 месяцев назад

That is pretty funny! Some of the similarly made pocket pistols share this inaccuracy.

@onkelmicke9670 5 месяцев назад

Yeah, blame the gun.

@loochan325 5 месяцев назад

Ian mentioned 4-5" ( 10 - 12.5cm) group at 25m, Not at 50m, so realy nothing like a target pistol capable of less the 1" at 50m, but some people have absurd expectations from a light compact afordable little pistol. Even so, at 25m you can get that accuracy even without rifling so we can be pretty sure that most of the lack of accuracy comes from the people that shoot it. Sure the light compact gun with a non target trigger mechanism can also be a challenge for untrained people, but then again target accuracy is not something they shoud expect from a police service compact little pistol...

@horaya7528 5 месяцев назад

@@lptomtom every policeman, gendarme or soldier that i talked to said the same thing to me: you have more chances to hit something if you throw it at the target :)))

@ergosum5260 5 месяцев назад

Love your videos, but one pound is approx. 10% less than ½ kilo. - King George III Shrinkflation.

@Soff1859 5 месяцев назад

A friend of mine has one of those. And it likes to fire when engaging the safety. Not always... just maybe one out of 3 times. Other than that its actually surprisingly nice and accurate tho and even looks quite nice when polished a bit.

@dannygmaaan 5 месяцев назад

ro police still uses these half a century rusty handguns and rusty handcuffs. There must be a book of jokes about how bad they are. My dad had to win a marksmanship tournament to get issued a beretta instead. "Carpati" is also a cigarette brand that ruined my uncle's lungs.

@WilliamHBayer 5 месяцев назад

The rifle in the back ground with the EoTech on backwards is quite funny.

@metzgerdan 5 месяцев назад

Thank you Ian I'm a Romanian and I ejoied this video. some Police officers said this gun was ok but after going regularly to the range it showed lot of issues

@mattycat_5009 5 месяцев назад

hi Ian, if' you're going to feature any other romanian firearms pronouncing "ÂÎĂȘȚ" is a bit easier than you might think "Î" = "Â" (up arrow) is basically pronounced "ew" , "Ă" is "uh", "Ș" is "shh" as in shushing , and "Ț" is pronounced "tss" as in ants

@loochan325 5 месяцев назад

ă sounds like e in water. â/î sounds like e in cattle or like the sound you make when you're punched in the liver. ș souns like sh in sheet. ț sounds like ts/tz or zz in pizza.

@bolbarazvan 5 месяцев назад

He had natives pronouncing things the correct way for him, don`t worry. But ther`s just so much that one can do on such a short notice.

@razvanmazilu6284 5 месяцев назад

This gun has a bad reputation in Romania for being underpowered and inaccurate. Personally I doubt it's any more underpowered than most pistols in its class. Probably expectations that don't match the reality that this is a compact pistol that would probably be better used as a concealed or backup pistol than as a standard issue sidearm. As for the inaccuracy, probably a combination of people having experience with worn out/badly maintained/poor quality control examples. Communist production, at least in Romania, though I suspect also in most places, had notoriously poor quality control. The only time they made an effort was when something was meant for export, but even then it usually wasn't great. So I suspect less a fault of the pistol itself and more a reflection on the quality of the work put into either manufacturing or maintaining (some of) them.

@jakekaywell5972 5 месяцев назад

Same story with the Yugoslav Model 70, a scaled-down Tokarev design in 32 ACP. I personally own an example and its actually quite a rugged, capable little gun. Bearing in mind that it was originally developed by Crvena Zastava to be a standard-issue police sidearm as well as a duty sidearm for high-ranking JNA officials, it was and is a totally acceptable design.

@bobi_lopataru 5 месяцев назад

I just thought of checking what's new on this channel, and I got a wonderful surprise to see you just posted a video of the infamous Carpati! Hello from Blaj, a city in the same county as Cugir! Fun fact: some policemen still have these pistols issued even today, it's laughable

@KevinCreighton 5 месяцев назад

How do you say "Bond. James Bond." in Romanian?

@edstringer1138 5 месяцев назад

lol pretty much

@aceman67HDA 5 месяцев назад

@@edstringer1138 Not even close

@Hopy 5 месяцев назад

We say it exactly the same as in English

@EtaoinShrdlu33 5 месяцев назад

Bondescu

@kavky 5 месяцев назад

@@EtaoinShrdlu33 Iancu Bondescu.

@pierrewilliams1533 5 месяцев назад

How to transform a thing of beauty (a PP) into something hideous.

@tedcollins4684 5 месяцев назад

I learned something, I am looking for one to go with my pa-63. Thanks Ian.

@lycante 5 месяцев назад

Ah the Carpați. A very good non-lethal lethal pistol. The running joke is if you wear a leather jacket you're safe at 20 yards. Because it can't hit you anyway. And congrats to Gun Jesus for pronouncing the name right. It's rare!

@berechet.m 4 месяца назад

These were pretty bad if I remmeber correctly. Idk which model of Carpati it was but it had an issue with the safety. Instead of actually securing the firearm, the safety actually fired the bullet somrtimes. Accidental discharges were pretty common. I think they later fixed this issue though, but the faulty model was still widely used by the state. Funny thing is that accidental discharges mostly occurred when the pistol was holstered. Heard a lot of funny stories with this.

@neoclips 5 месяцев назад

Abraços do Brasil, adoro seus vídeos 🇧🇷

@mihaimihai9254 5 месяцев назад

In my opinion the main issue of this pistol was its destination. In communism it could have been a good self defence pistol for judges, prosecutors, high ranked army officers, or other person who could have a self defence need. But making this small pistol an attack weapon has simply ruined its reputatin. I remeber that according to what we had to learn about it in the military school, it has been destinated to distroy and to anihilate the enemy's power which was a jole. We also had to shoot it at 25 m distance, with one hand.... Stupid communist shooting school!

@samanthamalikov7157 5 месяцев назад

More Romanian guns! WOOOO!

@Donkeykongington 5 месяцев назад

Which is it ian? Does it weigh "just barely over half a kilo? Or "well under a lb.""??? Both cant be true

@Apfsds120 5 месяцев назад

The backwards EOtech bothers me more than I'd admit to myself.

@itsalez1435 Месяц назад

My Romanian dad had one of these when he was in the army, and he had nothing but complaints about it 😂

@DavidFortman-et2jj 5 месяцев назад

You mentioned recoil with the 9x18 in a small pistol and I must agree. I have a Polish Radom P-64 and, even with it's steel frame, does generate quite a bit of recoil. In comparison a Walther PP in. 32 ACP feels like a..22. LOL

@philllax1719 5 месяцев назад

I can't imagine the reaction of a customs officer that has a random American nerding out about their gun

@robertsolomielke5134 5 месяцев назад

TY Ian on a truly unknown (to me anyway) pistol. I can imagine the grenade cup version is a novel feature, but with a host of lethality , from get a bandade , call the coroner. ;D

@time_o_graf 3 месяца назад

Personally, I loved this weapon. I was part of the Romanian intelligence and it was standard issue (although just in case of war). For its intended purpose (self-defense, concealed weapon) this was perfect. For other law-enforcment (Police, Jandarmerie, Military) it was really not fit for the job.

@cristianstefanescu1425 Месяц назад

Nu pari să fii de unde spui, altfel știai de diferența între neutralizare și nimicire. Că noi, cei care chiar am fost acolo, vrem să vorbească după ce executăm tragerea, nu să îl îngropăm.

@frankbrowning328 5 месяцев назад

That belly in the front strap of the grip is odd. Also strange that they commonly only carried 6 round in the mag. There must have been reliability issues that were not worked out. This design with an aluminum frame is a bit light to be chambered in anything but 32 ACP, 25 ACP or 22LR. I've shot similar designs in 380 with aluminum frames and the recoil is stout + the guns beat themselves up fairly quickly due to the aluminum alloys that were available at the time of production

@geodkyt 5 месяцев назад

Eh, I'd wonder if the ammunition they issued wasn't packaged in multiples of 6 or 12. Much like the way 32 rounds became a standard for 9mm SMGs, because the Luger (and later P38) meant Germany packaged 9x19mm ball in multiples of 8.

@frankbrowning328 5 месяцев назад

@@geodkyt Could be.

@okzyzz 5 месяцев назад

Yes, the magazines have issues feeding past 6 rounds, a more broken in magazine can tolerate 7 rounds.

@SepticEmpire 5 месяцев назад

Looks like a water gun 🔫 Literally the same gun just green

@Goc4ever 5 месяцев назад

I really learned something unique from this video, thanks Ian. Having a sidearm that can also be used as a grenade launcher is rather cool but also terrifying.

@philmerrow174 5 месяцев назад

Too funny. I bought one back before the COOF outbreak. It was sold as a FEG PA63 in .32 ACP. That was the only caliber of PA63 I didn't have. I bought it and brought it home then realized it wasn't a PA63. I looked it up in the book Communist Bloc Handguns by George Layman and found out (in a very brief section) that it was a Carpati M74. It is important marked as a FEG Hungary Manufactured pistol.

@AllAboutSurvival 5 месяцев назад

Would love to get my hands on one to experience its shooting capabilities firsthand!"

@esquad5406 3 месяца назад

I got one from Center fire systems about 20 years ago. The safety broke and that was the end of that.

@jamesallred460 5 месяцев назад

Yo early team, let's freakin go!

@aaronskuse2207 5 месяцев назад

3 minutes! Woo! Just in time for coffee.

@irishijo1 5 месяцев назад

You know, depending on how well the cup launcher worked, it might make a little more sense than having hand grenades. A launcher would allow you to lob a grenade without any sort of wind-up that you normally would need, and you wouldnt need to expose yourself or the bulk of a barrel to do so.

@RaduB. 5 месяцев назад

During my military service in the nineties this was the pistol we were supposed to carry besides the Md. 1963 (AK). But on the firing range we practiced with Md. 1933 (Tokarev). Honestly, the Carpați was pretty unimpressive... 🙂

@notnowchief.3089 5 месяцев назад

That really looks like A Bersa Thunder. LOL

@brittakriep2938 5 месяцев назад

A small sidenote: The th in Walther company name is not spoken the english way, but the german way, so only t. The th in german names is a relict from the time before 1873, when in german language every t was written as th.

@jameslawrie3807 5 месяцев назад

Tanks!

@brittakriep2938 5 месяцев назад

For most time of History, german language was not regulatet, the people spoke and wrote in their local dialects, which often caused confusion in trade, science or diplomacy. Still today, when speaking in still existing dialects, we have problems to understand each other. So in 1873 german language was standardized/ regulated by german, austrian and swiss scientists into Standard German. This is the reason, why the allways only t spoken th disappeared in usual german language and remained only in names or words , orginating from other languages , for example Theater. But a german saying: There is no rule without an exeption! Thron ( throne) kept its th ( according to legend, by demand of Wilhelm ll).

@brittakriep2938 5 месяцев назад

@@germaniatv1870 : Yes, many english speakers are surprised when they hesr Old English/ Angish. But i also met an US lady, which didn't recocgnize Forke and lütt !

@jrlewis3733 5 месяцев назад

Ian, I have a different model of the Carpati. My 1st one is a military model, w/ the small front sight. Imported by Century and because they didn't know who made it, marked FEG. #2 is a commercial model that says on left side of slide "RATMIL MD 94" and "Century Arms". It came w/ a grooved trigger, and glued on left side thumbrest. I am sure that was done for importation points. It too, suffers from a very stiff trigger pull.

@PBG762 5 месяцев назад

I was in the RO military for a period of time after 1992. No self-respecting professional was looking for them. The TT was preferred or the Makarov. Most of the regular army was TT. Carpați was considered a cop pistol and inaccurate. Makarov was used by anti-tero gropu to avoid overpenetration. Mauser broomhandle toghter with wooden stocks was used by special units guarding embassies. ... more like preventing Romanian ppl jumping the fence ans asking for asylum....😂

@donwyoming1936 5 месяцев назад

Machining on Romanian guns is so crude! I had stacks & stacks of Romy G & other kits back in 1999. Every last one had canted sights and machining marks you could grate cheese with. 🤠

@PassivePortfolios 5 месяцев назад

They just had to be reliable, not cosmetically pleasing to the eye. Typical communist production standards. Quantity over quality.

@ianfinrir8724 5 месяцев назад

@@PassivePortfolios "Is gun. Gun shoots. What more you want?"

@MrQ454 4 месяца назад

because those were special made for guys like you...

@jrlewis3733 5 месяцев назад

These Cugir pistols are not junk, contrary to what people think. They are very much Walther clones, save a few minor details. I have 2 of them. The big problem is getting the 25lb trigger pull down. Under 19lbs, they won't ignite primers reliably. Hammer is of a different design from the Walthers.

@kaymio6547 5 месяцев назад

"Barely over halve a kilo, well under a pound." A pound is 453.6 grams, halve a kilo is 500 grams.

@mulrich 5 месяцев назад

*half, but yes, I came here to say the same thing. It's an odd mistake for Ian to make.

@kaymio6547 5 месяцев назад

@@mulrich English, Dutch and German getting mixed up -_-

@mulrich 5 месяцев назад

@@kaymio6547 it's no biggie. "Halve" is a word in English, though it's a verb. 🙂

@mikeblair2594 3 месяца назад

A friend of mine who lived in Berlin had something like that "self defense" pistol. What they used in the cup was a small flare and let me tell you, those things will go into the human body and burn. When you're being attacked by neo-nazis all the time it helps to have something that can really put your assailant of his lunch for a will. And yes, they mostly used CS gas, but that's not advisable down in an U-BAHN station with full platforms.

@MihaiRUdeRO Месяц назад

A pistol grenade and Eastern Block chemical irritant munition is exactly what I was looking for in regards to a self-defense weapon, thanks Ian!

@mouxou97 5 месяцев назад

I wonder what Ian McC says to customs when he rocks up at all these countries. "Why are you visiting?" "I'm a gun expert." "Please come into this room and lower your pants. Someone will be with you shortly."

@nannunbgd Месяц назад

When i whas more young,i shoted with Carpati,and i whas impresed how easy is to use and how good in shoted with this gun,for first and last time. i haved 5 bulets,and i shoted in poligon,3 in chest,1 in shoulder and 2 miss. My experience whas on army period(conscript 1 year),when i used AK 47,PSL,and an platoon mh,a variant of AK,but a little more long.

@davesimmons8640 5 месяцев назад

At first glance, I thought you had a Bersa Thunder which, as you know, is also based on the Walther PPK (PPP?). Whatever.

@TamasMateffy 5 месяцев назад

Locally it’s notorious for being inaccurate and underpowered. Heard quite a few people who trained with them during army training , that it’s almost useless. Maybe they were worn out, maybe they could’t shoot… lot’s of recruits got to only a handful of cartridges with their armament during a year or so of mandatory army training,during the communist era. Gun ownership in Romania is almost like guns in North Coreea.

@lollokdaniel3390 5 месяцев назад

6:45 FÉG PA-63's recoil's pretty light although you'd be more afraid of the slide cutting the skin between your index finger and thumb while shooting from a higher grip purchase thanks to a "thumb rest" plastic spine on the left grip piece

@joshuafernandez6865 5 месяцев назад

The P-64 had a chamber indicator, wonder why they omitted on the later model.

@geodkyt 5 месяцев назад

Probably to save costs by omitting a feature most users never bothered using.

@raoulsilaghi2504 5 месяцев назад

Ahhh, back in the days you could see this pistol on the side of every cop in Romania. Now they have Glock and Beretta.

@notnurfcreanga Месяц назад

correction, its pronounced as carpatsI, im upper casing the I because its also pronounced, not "Carpats"

@severpop8699 5 месяцев назад

Bloody Hell Ian, you actually pronounced Cugir corectly this time...

@redlock4004 5 месяцев назад

FYI 1/2 kilo = 500gr. I LB = 454gr 1/2 kilo is more than one pound.

@carstenheuer5025 5 месяцев назад

it's not for grenades but für 15mm fireworks cartridges. This is still a thing in europe

@womanliker999 5 месяцев назад

My first pistol on college was an Md95, it sucked but it was cheaper than a Hi Point

@johndallman2692 5 месяцев назад

Ah, half a kilo is 1.1lb. Still pretty light, but not "well under a pound."

@k4hun4 5 месяцев назад

an fn1910 , now who in this circle just had a video on it XD some bloke down on the range?

@kavky 5 месяцев назад

The civilian market aka export. The domestic civilian firearms market in Romania is practically nonexistent. We have the most restrictive and draconic arms legislation in Europe.

@somersethuscarl2938 5 месяцев назад

Laughs in British ..... or should that be cries in British

@causewaykayak 5 месяцев назад

@@somersethuscarl2938 Quite. UK is quite neurotic about anything that goes bang. Yet the regime is quick enough to beg folk to join their armed forces. Would You enlist for a government than prevents you keeping a gun at home ? ?

@somersethuscarl2938 5 месяцев назад

@@causewaykayak well i did (commisioned not enlisted however), and they don't. I currently have three .... Your point?

@causewaykayak 5 месяцев назад

@@somersethuscarl2938 you need to ask ... !! You accept we need to get their permission ?? Are you still serving ? When you retire will you still be permitted by gracious authority to keep your own property ? I think on the whole , not.

@somersethuscarl2938 5 месяцев назад

@@causewaykayak Blimey are you an idiot?

@alfazagato1455 4 дня назад

Just encountered one at a local gun store. Not entirely surprised Ian has this vid.

@calinculianu 5 месяцев назад

"Non-lethal intimidation for self defense". Lord help the Romanians and their draconian laws.

@simongrushka983 5 месяцев назад

"just over half of kilo" is over a pound. probably like pound and two ounces

@Frurin 5 месяцев назад

Kudos Ian, you have finally stopped pronouncing Koogear 😄

@Procket12 5 месяцев назад

Czechoslovakia also used .32 ACP a lot for their police.

@botondbalazs4893 5 месяцев назад

The Moldoveanu pistol has a accuracity of a stormtroopers balster 😂

@djdrack4681 5 месяцев назад

I'd be interested to see any videos about Bersa or Rossi; I feel like most S. American Arms MFGers are 'forgotten' already, even though they're still in business. IE Rossi vs. Taurus, the development of some of their earlier revolvers. How/why Bersa decided to go the german route of pistols in mid-late 1900s (wink wink) vs American/Spanish/Italian.

@jailbird1133 5 месяцев назад

I'm not sure about Rossi, but Bersas quality especially with smaller caliber pistols is not very good.

@djdrack4681 5 месяцев назад

@@jailbird1133 I wasn't saying anything about quality...more about coverage of any of the firearms. Just some examples. He covers development of Sten, Homelands war small-run SMGs, even development of G3... So it'd make sense that among remaining topics he could cover would be things like Walther clones, Brands that do domestic vs export versions, ring of fire (and that whole topic and those guns). etc.

@P_RO_ 5 месяцев назад

Many folks today don't know the history of Taurus and their relationship with S&W when Bangor Punta owned both companies; S&W wasn't always a USA company like many people think, and it's an interesting story indeed. That one thing gave Taurus the edge over Rossi in the US market when they were once about equal not so long ago.

@djdrack4681 5 месяцев назад

@@P_RO_ Perhaps...but Taurus/Rossi today are basically the same company... It was Rossi that develop The Judge; and like 2/3 or more of Taurus' line are just licensed models of Rossi guns Taurus is MFGing... Meanwhile Rossi itself basically MFGs only mostly for export as well. Again...IMO all interesting stuff.