Modern Vs Classic Street Fighter 6 

I really love how approachable the modern era of fighting games is. I've talked to a lot of people that got into fighting games because of Strive and its more beginner friendly feel, and I'd imagine SF6 with modern controls will do that even more. Really good video! Subbed

I’m just gonna say this, Modern greatly shortens/eliminates the human error when doing moves. Like I could mess up a lv3 and throw the match, but a modern player can crank out a super quickly almost without error.

Very well done video man! Some good editing and insightful information. Keep it up!

I remember reading that the SF6 director said that the point of modern controls is for beginners to get used to the feel of SF6 until they feel comfortable enough to learn the classic style controls. Just my opinion but i really do feel like the pro players that are defending modern controls are completely missing the point. They're likely enjoying the ease of modern inputs being allowed in tournaments or, those who aren't, are unwilling to rock the boat in the discussion. The thumbnail of this video really says it all. Modern controls brings relatively quick and easy victory with low mental stress, while classic will stress you out and make defeat more likely in the name of integrity. Much like griffith and guts represent in their Manga respectively.

Fantastic video, well edited for a small channel. Fantastic work.

Underrated content. Keep it up. Hope to see your channel get more traction

Phenomenal video. Earned a subscriber and thank you, thank you, thank you. I have trying to make my friends who play sf6 with me understand why I switched to modern. I have always struggled with mental stack and especially consistent execution. I switched to modern when I realized that was the purpose. It by NO MEANS makes wins easier to come by however, like you so accurately explained, modern allows me to execute consistently and focus primarily on the game's core mechanics. I have been having a blast playing with modern online because I feel like I am fighting my opponent, not fighting my opponent along with my controls. i can't tell you how many times I have dropped combos on a perfect punish opportunity because I messed up an input. That is not fun to me. Modern gets rid of that issue.

I keep hearing people say "one button supers" but unless i'm doing something wrong, they've never been one button. the special moves are one button

Solid breakdown. Informative af bro.

damn, this is nice video. Gonna sub for other content

What an awesome video, good narrative, excellent content, wonderful voice, keep it up, no homo.

Good video and you got a subscriber. I like both control schemes. What do you think about Dynamic?

I really loved this video, you really explained every facet of the big picture surrounding Modern and Classic controls nicely. This topic is one that I've involved myself in quite a bit since SF6 has come out, because I truly believe there isn't a control scheme that's better than the other. At least not in the level of play most people are working with. Nobody should feel lesser for playing what works better for them, and nobody should be hurtful towards players using control schemes that were designed for players like them to get into a new genre of game they haven't tried before. Modern controls are beautiful, and as far as classic players go, they shouldn't worry about it. If you get beat by modern controls, and claim that's the only reason you lost; Modern controls aren't what you should be worried about haha. I rambled a bit here, but great video. I really liked it!

The only issue I think that is not addressed is if you're not a pro players it's difficult to fight modern control players. Obviously the pros can adjust but if you a silver or gold player we Obviously don't adjust like the pros so it's very difficult to beat a modern player of the same rank.

the one thing modern gives over classic is a way out of certain checkmate scenarios, if your burned out in a corner you know at some point that drive impact is coming with a meaty setup or other setup, and nothing you can do on classic but on modern as long as you have super you have an easy escape.

The curious thing is: I have seen many videos on the topic of Modern controls. Beginner tier players don't mind Modern, because they either need it, don't care, or will use Classic from the start. They are simply trying the game as it is. They'll either move past others using it, or possibly reflect in the pros and cons as time goes on and switch. Intermediate tier players (may) care because of the experience of fighting against them, (instant response, Supers, Critical Arts, etc.) which is frustrating when you view the people beating you as being inexperienced and these Modern players being carried by the controls. I don't necessarily agree, but I can empathize how demoralizing it may be if you're on the receiving end. I'm sure at this level, they want new people to put the time and effort they had to, and the idea of a "shortcut" makes them feel invalidated. Since Modern controls to Classic aren't a 1 to 1, that also invites the "they wouldn't beat me with Modern controls" mindset. In a equal playing field (i.e. Bronze vs Bronze), that boost in execution of moves would probably tip the scales. Eliminating the "thinking" part of execution does count for a lot. And of course, Master-level Professional tier players don't care even more because it's the 10% of players who go to tournaments and win the big bucks. Now, they are Professional players now who will use Modern will come up eventually, but it'll probably still be niche. (I never thought of Mental Stack, but it does identify an issue I've had with fighting Modern players when I've been in bad situations. Everything you've mentioned is probably right.) The only people who "lose" here is the Intermediate tier players who feel cheated because of the feeling of "instant combos" and "instant CA" punishing them when they know the Modern players would not be able to punish them otherwise. The only "advice" they get is to just "get good" when it is not that simple. I know that is the mantra of Fighting Games, but it ain't very helpful to those people. I know as a community, we want to welcome others (and to be frank I don't agree with the detractors in this video) but don't forget about the people who are already here. Being disparaging isn't going to change peoples' minds, but all I've seen is people making fun of anyone bringing up issues, whether valid or not. It is interesting, though.

I love the air gear music @10:03

I think Modern mode is fine, but they should make you commit to the damage reduction when using it online. Like, “You wanna overcome the execution barrier and have invincible supers on a single button press? Ok, but you’re gonna eat damage loss.” I think it’s nuts that if you perform the inputs manually, it allows Modern players to maintain full damage, but still have invincible reversals at the press of a button.

Just realized the air gear ost

Just here to compliment you on that thumbnail Edit: typo

Back in the day if you had a modded controller that did one button dp and fireball it would be considered cheating, the problem about modern is that there is no input error. Most would argue that just doing moves don’t win matches which is correct. If you put a high level modern player and a high level classic player the modern player will have the advantage. I foresee a lot of modern players in the near future causing problems.

I been playing since sf2 and I still suck an inputs and what not. Ken and ryu are easy to use in classic but I couldn’t do combos so I learned footsies. But modern controls has allowed me to learn how to play with everyone and enjoy the game more. I never picked up zangief he was too hard for me But now the dude is fun, along with chin li, guile and cammy

I really hate it. I’m pretty bad at fighting games, and it feels too good so I wouldn’t have the motivation to learn the actual combos. So i gotta tough it out now and just learn.

this mf thumbnail has me rolling

35 here, getting into fighting games, Im going to pick whatever option is liked and viewed down upon - so this looks like ill be going with modern. Why? Well thats easy, when entering a new community, Its important to identify the cry babies in the circle. Im the type of person to engage and meet negativity head on, using more negativity. If youre going to cry like a child, id like to be a part of what is making you cry, because you SHOULDNT be crying in the first place.

Modern controls are probably best first defensive play. Having a cross cut dp available with ease makes jump ins harder than classic

The issue with Modern Controls is like playing Devil May Cry on Auto and let the game play itself for you and throw out moves randomly and some that might be beneficial and deal a ton of damage. In street fighters case, like Ed for example some of the moves and unique attacks are locked unless you playing classic controls. Modern Controls is made specifically to give new fighting game players, not just new Street fighter players, training wheels and when you are ready you can switch to classic at any given time. If you are still playing street fighter with modern Controls, I'm sorry but you are hopeless and might as we play a different fighting game. But hey what do I know?

Modern controls on keyboard = 💀 vs modern controls on joystick = 😃

I'm a modern player because I'm new to fighing game, but now that I've seen this tumbnail, I can't be anymore. Classics are to many to be called controls, massive, thick, heavy, and far too rough. Inded, they are like a heap of raw iron, and that's why I will learn them.

Yes

Overkooled and I wanna kno my jams

What are the ost at 8:58 ? And the one at 10:00 plz ?

For me it depends. I feel most characters benefit from classic but others like Zangief and E. Honda benefit from modern a lot.

I mean idk how its "scrubby" to say someone isn't talented for being able to press a single button and punish something that only a very small percentile of players who have the reaction and execution to be able to do so on classic, or in a situation where playing classic you literally wouldn't have time to execute a super not matter if you hit each direction for one frame and super came frame perfect but ok It's hard for me because I'm not a vet but I've always held a modern(no pun intended) mentality that whatever is in the game is fair to use so long as you aren't literally cheating, but from my experience playing SF6 and knowing in certain situations people around my rank and skill level literally wouldn't have the time to input something or just the reaction and execution wombo combo modern controls are rough for me as an idea. Overall I don't think they're busted, but when you get into situational things they're obviously better than classic

I could learn how to play the game or i could just play modern luke and not have to try

I wouldnt mind modern controls if the supers were still motion input. It just feels cheap.

Man I feel bad with this situation. On one side I'm glad that Modern exists because it brings a new player base to the fgc, on the other hand I feel discouraged because those fights get boring. Let me put it this way, I'm going to get a hitbox arcade to try it out, my inputs will be better and I'll get land more attacks. Is it valid to use in this game? Yes. Will it be an even playing field? Definitely not.

Only things I hate is unbalanced autocombo. Ken got solid combo without gauge when all Jamie's combo is just waste move. (But they all sucks in higher competitive play anyway) I really hope It would change to be functional just like another normal we lost instead. (So now we trade some move with harder input than Classic instead of just lose It) I like the Idea of super on reaction. I feel bored that super being only fancy combo-ender 99% of time. If Remy return he could use his counter move more effectively. Anti-air super become more possible but their damage should be balanced out with their range/speed. Like, universal easy to hit like Luke should have more lower damage than others. while specific use like anti-air or even counter(If It'd have) should have much more damage.

Modern is basically just mortal kombat

Great incite for the Game I Love. I play SF 6 every night and honestly I hate modern controls, up until the last 2 weeks. I found a lot of patterns that I can confidently expose with a lot of ranking up matches . Seems like the Higher the rank the more the I battle Modern players. Its defiantly a challenge for Classic players but I say bring it on. I wont tell my break throughs to get around Modern here, but know that with out all your tools well. The more you F around the more you find out.

I agree it’s not bad in high level gameplay but for someone that sucks at sf6 like me, playing against someone with modern controls feels cheap as hell

Modern control and classic is good.

So modern controls are for those who are less competent than 7, 8, 9 year olds were in the 90s with SF2 basically

For me its not even an issue of which is better, more so which is fun to play against/spectate. One button supers and reversals lead to a very reactionary playstyle. Sure modern doesn't "play for you", but it's undeniable that reacting with a button press is easier than with a motion. And those moments of great reactions become undermined by the nature of its input. Also modern players have less options which leads to less unique combo routes/setups/frametraps. And less options for me leads to more same-y feeling games. Like we celebrated the return of more robust movelists in SF6 after SFV streamlined away many of character specials, and now with modern we get a version of a character with less moves which is somehow celebrated by some part of community.

But seriously M controllers is unfair especially when I'm faced with a Modern Manon I'm a classic Manon Main, the modern Manon can out command grab the shiiiii out of me.

Modern controllers are like selling your soul to the devil for easy access to doing power moves easy. Which makes you not to good has a player but its a start for beginners that started playing. Classic controllers make your work real hard at doing moves but if you get the moves down an adapt to it you'll be a combo impact demon keeping pressure on your opponent automatically. Thats the way i see it i use to play modern 1 year ago. M EASY ACCESS C working HARDER for moves.

Classic is better than modern. Anyone that complains about modern just isn’t very good at the game. And that should be their main concern instead of what control type their opponent is using

MODERN SUPREMEACY OVER HERE 😇

nah modern controllers are for bozos that aren’t willing to play the game actually. pressing one button of bones to pull out a decent combo relentlessly is absolutely stupid. modern controls should never have been made

I hope strive gets modern controls

Mental stack doesn't exist for us modern Zangief players. No thoughts. Just reactions.

I would have never considered playing this game on classic at all. Im playing modern screw classic it makes no sense to have outdated and overly difficult controls like that. And thats coming from someone who is top 1% in battle royale and a few other fps titles....

Modern is for babiessssssssss

Modern controller is BS it's cheap and for lazy players it's the worse thing in SF6 they turning sf6 into mortal Kombat 3 up to mk trilogy with 1 button finishing smhh and it's worse than mk3 to trilogy because in SF6 the special move is 1 button smhh modern controller shouldn't be in SF6 if the PS controller was touch screen it would be ok but its not so it shouldn't be in SF6 at all modern controller as i say is cheap and for lazy players

Modern controls are mad easy to fight with, like why would I basically break my fingers just to a hadoken when I can just press triangle😭 only thing that’s good about classic is, it’s more random moves, like when I pressed O it didn’t do a heavy punch, but it did some type of spin kick

It’s what makes street fighter street fighter, the fact that you have to actually train to do combos, that fact that it takes skill, hell it makes all fighting games, having easy mode controls is just dumb, I know sf is trying to reel in more people to play but it’s nit fair for the older players that have to do motion inputs while these nincompoops can just press 2 buttons to do a level three super that took the other player a month to learn and memorize

Easy modes forced into the main game is going to kill fighting games. We need to take better care of fighting games and not just allow "whatever happens, happens"

Modern controls are cheap as hell and I don't like them lmao. They shouldn't be in the game. Anytime I run into a Cammy with modern controls i throw up a little. It's not hard to learn classic at all, in fact it's way less intimidating than I thought it was.

If you use Modern controls or defend Modern players, you’re a bum. No further debate or commentary needed 🚮