Ofc it can be effective. But nowhere as well as newer, much MUCH better pattern. The French still have it because they have it. That's all. Did you use the same argument to defend the UCP?
@@goforbroke4428 Nah man, no one's around anymore that remembers any of this obsolete s***. If you're unlucky enough to get issued ALICE, LBE88, or the first Molle System, you're SOL. And probably need to procure you're own instructional material like this, too lmao.
Have you ever seen something so 90s that your eyes roll in the back of your head and your mouth foam as your seizing on the bathroom floor... O shit I might have another problem
I like that the sleep system was separate from the main ruck. Now the UCP & OCP rucks, the pocket for the sleep system is builtin which is a pain to get stuff in and out sometimes.
@@michaelbenjmitchell1 I did my Basic Training (summer last year) with this current generation of gear, so I got used to it. Had no idea the bottom pocket was for the sleep system but it was useful information towards the end of my deployment this year. In Basic we closed off the bottom part of the ruck, kept it empty so everything was high and tight.
@@jamesb.russell2942 Also another useful piece of info is that the buckles on the FLC are used in place of the zipper when used with plate carriers. But I also assembled both of my FLC's(Woodland and ACU) slightly different from US Army SOP. On the woodland Flick I did six 2 mag pockets and 4 grenade pockets. On the ACU I did 2 3 mag panels four 2 mag pockets two on each 3 mag panel with 4 grenade pockets with 2 in between both M4 2 mag pockets on both panels.
@@michaelbenjmitchell1 In Basic my FLC was set up so you'd clip it from the back. In AIT it was in the front. When I bought my own (coyote brown, technically used by the USMC) is when I figured out that you can switch between the 2 configurations. For the deployment this year, we just got IOTV Gen 4s where we attached everything directly to it, stupidly didn't bring my personal FLC (and screw the ACU one issued to me by my NG unit, I hate mismatched camo). But we were issued the TAPS within the OCP rifleman's kit, which I never used since it was so much bulkier on the kit than direct attachment IMO.
With most of my gear being MOLLE II, I figured there was a "MOLLE I but didn't think much about it beyond that. I guess that explains why some sustainment pouches you find surplus are 12" wide and 8 and 1/2 tall. All of mine are 12" wide and 11" tall ( I get them in double packs and wear them with some chest rigs when I don't feel like carrying a full ruck. I snap the tabs and fish paracord though the loops created and secure them to the crossed shoulder straps ). The main ruck looks way different than what I'm accustomed to seeing compared to Army surplus MOLLE II main rucks that have more webbing, the sleep system carrier is integrated into the main ruck as a zipper pocket, etc....... The "Flick" seems to have changed a bit as well. I usually pair a rifle with a vest set up for it and store them together. With a Flick, I stow the front buckles and straps for them, zip the vest up, and lift the inside velcro so that I can turn the belt to buckle in the back ( removing the strip that covers it there. This lets me keep all of my pouches attached to it, carry more by bridging across the zipper. I can slip it on and buckle it in the back, keeping it adjusted high enough so the rifle mags on't interfere with my pistol belt and pistol mags ). My gear is a mish-mash of Army, Marine, and foreign gear such as Russian ( me being mostly an AK guy ), Dutch, Finnish, etc.......This was very interesting to watch, thanks for posting it :)
Go to a craft store and get 4 old school D rings. Weave them into the snap straps. This is better than the issue D rings, 2 straps = small pack, one for a sling pack, etc. You can still use the pouches as normal.
I have several FLC vest LBV the 78duece, I got some Rhodesian chest rigs fereday and sons and Eagle Industries. All still great gear all still reliable and relevant. I have one PC and I don’t run it ever cheat rigs becomes more popular like 2-3 years ago and now people are starting to look back into the FLC vest
This seems to be for the Molle II equipment. The original Molle LBV had a different waist belt that had a black rucksack frame attachment on it. They removed it because they hurt individuals and broke often. Also original Molle didn’t have a Waist Pack. 1st Gen Molle had a butt pack that was basically the same as the IIFS/ALICE version. It shares the same NSN as the Molle II Waist Pack. 1st Gen Molle also had a single 30 round mag pouch. This was dropped as it proved to be a waste when a double 30 round mag pouch could fit in the same space.
I've been looking for one of the companies 'Beavertail' products to use to store a low-profile helmet on a Blackhawk 3 day pack. Currently out of production. When are these going to be produced OV ???
@@Lord_RavnFar_Tannerwise Just and FYI... It's UCP, not ACU. ACU = Army Combat Uniform, The camo pattern is UCP= Universal Camo Pattern. WORST camo pattern EVER!! LOL!! Except maybe for in a gravel pit. :D
ik im late to the party but what would be the use case for the pistol configuration💀 like im not in the military or anything (yet hopefully) but is there a guy just running around with a M9?💀
Wasn't in during this time or never served but I've seen troops from the war on terror use all alice, mixed molle and alice, and all molle gear in the war some solders still has flak vests and use of molle iba vests too
Didnt watch the video. Id rather wear MOLLE over LBV. Everyone thats running with support how much ammo are you carrying or how did you set it up? Did you put the ammo around your waste or all on chest?
I hate the molie pack and assault pack we should just updated the Alice pack, it would have been cheaper and better just look at the malice pack or the 1st eberlestock jackhammer. It brings me joy we are ditching the mollie vest too, the tab isn't great but it's better, now if only we could get rid of the mollie pack and assault pack too
@@MD_Films you're right, but now its a huge fad..... before that cigarettes were the big thing...... that's just my retired, 21 years in the army opinion...... but im not a Democrat so i WILL say........ i could be wrong
Never got to play with the new stuff when I was in. But I've managed to get a few pieces over the years, in woodland. Still searching for a patrol pack. The ruck is amazing, compared to the large ALICE. I've yet to find a civilian bag I prefer.
It depends. I’ve done patrols with both ALICE and MOLLE systems. Either one is great when set up and worn correctly. MOLLE rucksacks have lots more padding in the shoulders, but are also much bulkier than ALICE and can hold more stuff. They also are plastic and lighter, but won’t take nearly the long-term beating aluminum framed ALICE rucks will. ALICE fits me personally better and rides better on a smaller frame like mine- I’m 5’7” with 44” chest n 34” waist. MOLLE ruck is more comfortable by itself, but does not breathe nearly as well and when you’re a sweat little guy like me, you want as much airflow as possible. Now, I use a MALICE ruck from TacTailor- pretty spendy but worth it IMO as you get the best of both worlds- the aluminum and breathing ALICE frame with the larger somewhat better layout of the MOLLE main pack. The MOLLE FLC is much improved over the ALICE LBE- much more real estate available to better spread out your load and is much easier to customize. Neither the LBE or FLC were designed to be worn with body armor, but both can be made to function if necessary.
MOLLE and other chest type rigs are designed to work better in a vehicle including helicopters. Anyone who's ever had to sit on a bench or driver's seat for a couple of hours while wearing LC 2 gear knows about it. I've used an FLC and it's okay, but hard to get it low, which I like better. Also, the LC type butt packs hold almost as much as an assault pack and much better ventilated. I'm down South, so that's important. Really depends on your intended use for any system.
