I used to think mo and Q were a cute couple but no they were just toxic, they were people with 2 strong personalities so even if they got married they would have gotten a divorce eventually cause all they would have been doing was arguing. Q wanted to control Moesha but she had a very strong independent personality. She needed someone mellow and that would go with the flow like Hakeem or Aaron. Moe and Hakeem were the best. Their relationship was very cute and it was like puppy love.
Yet Aaron didn't give her wat she wanted...all the guys Moesha liked except Q that her dad liked wasn't wat she needed... This was handed wrong... It's not about toxic its about things they both need to learn and wise counsel could have been done but the show was not trying to take Moesha in the direction of marriage so it didn't go further
@@msmichelle2196 yes I agree but the dad didn’t have a problem with them getting married. If you think about it Moesha never wanted to married Q she just wanted to get back at Hakeem for kissing niecy. Moesha also realized that the marriage wont work or there would’ve been no problem with them getting married she finally realized all the wrongs in their relationship. I think Q was just a phase in her life so since she was trying to push that phase everything went wrong and moesha knew that it had to end idk just my opinion maybe I’m wrong
@@blessingryan8797 from what some say is They nvr want to feel or seem more masculine than a man and they perfer a balance from a man vs him being overly sweet they want a hardcore guy with a soft touch
Lol! Ladies please, let me get this one for ya... 👐🏾 Yes, a lot of brothas do that-not even gonna lie. However, Q was your 90's rap kid on a come up, and an egotistical guy from the Bronx that wanted to look like a big baller for his lady. So, yeah-he just didn't wanna look weak, but then reality hit him financially and well he tried to keep it G, but looked an ass in the process.
Well, Q represents how pride can take a man down. At the end of the day, it was his pride that wouldn't allow him to get what he really wanted (or claimed that he wanted) in the end. This is real! 👌🏾
Moesha represents how materialism and greed can ruin a relationship. If she can't have the ring she don't want the relationship. Sad that alot of women are that way.
@@monkeybrown5218 That too. I truly think they both represent how young and "sure" we can be in our youth. They both failed to understand each other, but I'd say Q triggered it being (young) and not the wisest with his finances, but it was not only the material. She wanted that one, that ring in particular because she saw it as sentimental.
@@monkeybrown5218 but why give it to her in the first place in then a month or so later ask for it back. That would bother me too. Not just th ring but your money management skills. I was taught never give something that u gonna ask for back.
@@monkeybrown5218 In the same way that the ring is symbolic of the commitment they're about to make, taking it back is also a symbol. It's a symbol of breaking the engagement, which is exactly what he wanted to do. He knew full well what taking the ring back meant when he asked for it back, he just didn't care about her enough to want to keep her around.
So I'm clear, he took her to all of those expensive places! Yet he is having money issues! Gur What??? Q was always trying to control Moesha. He always wanted a passive girl, which Moesha is not.
Idk, maybe him being financially unstable was stressing her out. That would stress me out to. I think she thought getting someone else to help would be the right thing to do. Idk. 🤷🏾♀️
Because at that moment she was. If that's the man you trust to be your husband even though you may not agree, he did buy so just give it back, it isn't that deep. He asked for it back not because he didn't want to marry her but because of financial issues and she should have given it up with no hesitation if this is the man she's choosing to marry. A lot of people get married without understanding what it means. I am not saying she can't have an opinion but he's the head and even though he can take her feelings into consideration, he has the final say as the husband/head of that marriage. They are both unprepared for marriage. Q is financially unstable and Moesha is entitled and a daddy's girl meaning she likes getting what she wants. It's not like he said he didn't want to marry her or called off the engagement, he asked for a ring that he bought back so he can get his career off the ground and like he said buy her a better ring its not that deep.
@@keked9231 Because he's financially irresponsible and unstable but Moesha decided to still accept his proposal despite that. So it doesn't matter why he bought the ring without knowing the finciances. The point is he said he wanted to marry her and she accepted, so that's her fiance and future husband and she decided this is the man she wants to stand by, so do so.
Y’all saying she’s materialistic because she wanted to keep her engagement ring? A literal gift? While he was spending money like water only to “realize” he was broke? Then she actually came up with a solution and instead of thanking her and lookin into it he got mad. And he still took the ring! Q was pulling some BS on the real. Moe deserved better than Hakeem and Q
No fr awkward asf .. It seemed like brother & sister & seeing Hakeem in a romantic setting was weird mainly bc in the first 4-5 seasons he was goofy Hakeem . Plus it seemed like he was constantly tip toeing around her .
I love her with Hakeem anyway soo it worked out😂🤷🏾♀️ they were friends and fell in love they weren't perfect but they came together in the end and besides she still had feelings for him anyway
What’s funny is the people that are upset with Moesha for helping Q, but yet are the same people talking about she materialistic for wanting to keep her engagement ring 🙂 like if she’s materialistic than he’s very prideful tf.
they wee siblings they grew up together all this time, they never had feelings for one another until Q came into the picture. And if Hakeem loved her so much he wouldn't have even looked at Niecy!
Hear me out. I get where Q is from she didn't discuss that with her man. Instead she vented to another man about his money issues. Then accepted it and invited the man over to the house without talking to Q. She could have went to him told him about it first let him make that business move. I will never go to another man to help my boyfriend unless he knew about it
Naw, moesha was deadass wrong at the end. You dont involved the man that tried to sabotage your relationship your current man problems. And then she told him his dreamswas a pipe dream. Smh
Just a thought...I always viewed Q asking for the ring back as a sign of his love...Q knows Moesha and that she never really moved on from Hakeem, her fathers thoughts for her and the life she wanted...It was easier to have her question his intentions then loose her due to regret if he pursued her any further.. again just a thought
Nah, he didn't ask for the ring for any of those reasons. He was immature and bad with money. If he was broke, why buy her a ring he couldn't afford? Then he just got through taking her shopping and spending money he didn't have. Q was bad news and I never thought he was worthy of Moesha.
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THAT is where she messed up, & people dont seem to uunderstand that. Yes her heart was In the right place, but you never go to another man to help out your man. ESPECIALLY telling all your mans business to the guy smh
I lean more towards siding with moesha on this! But I will say going to another man about something a little personal and at least not talking to Q can sting a bit I think any man can admit that. Especially if the man has/has a thing for your girl…..but again everything else I’m in favor of moesha!
The media has put it in women's head that an engagement ring is more important than a marriage license. It might be a piece of paper but it's more of a commitment than a ring but to a woman it's less important
That part! Plus it’s sad how ppl spend money on luxurious weddings only to be divorced months or a year later. Still rocking my promise ring I was given back in 2017 told him heck I’d be happy keeping this one and using it as a engagement ring. All he has to do is probably resize it or polish it and I’ll act surprised lol
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It is deeper than that. Q could have given her a modest ring he could afford and tell her that money will be tight due to his dreams and plans. Instead Q was living above his means. We can’t dump on life commitments and symbols of that. That’s not the problem. A simple ring, a small wedding and a mutually agreed-upon dream will work. Those two are not on the same page. Whether they live together, get married, have a big ring or wedding or not they won’t stay together. It may result in her supporting him and a toddler and trying to work while he’s hocking their tv. She better be ready for that life.
Preach....I think he asked for it back due to wat Hakeem told him and it proved Moesha didn't move on and wasn't mature enough for an adult relationship but looking back moesha always seemed immature in relationships
Soooo, Idk if people in the comment section were listening but he said he needed the money for the album and would buy her another ring when things were stable. Yes, he was financially irresponsible but he did pay for the ring and was going to buy her another one sooooo what is the problem? It's not like he said he didn't want to get married. Hw just needed to make some moves and it's just a ring, if she needs a symbol on her finger so bad then buy a ring pop to hold its place then, it's not that deep. Giving him the ring back doesn't remove the fact he asked her to get married. People were getting married without rings for generations. And Mo goofy as hell talking to another man about her fiance's financial issues, that's beyond disrespectful. It's either you standing by your man or you not so I'm with Q on this one.
The problem was he just spent hella money at a restaurant & buying clothes trying to butter her up when he could have saved that money. He was irresponsible from jump spending more than he was making knowing damn well niggas wanted to be put in luxury. We all knew who Mo was before he asked to marry her. She had good intentions but went about it the wrong way. He got aggressive and she got a attitude.
Ppl keep saying Q was spending on her... Moeshas whole character is materialistic; sometimes ppl do things to plz others but both needed counseling yet I don't think moesha is as mature as ppl make her out to be looking back
Wow I am on it now s6 e10 In the living room This is such a lack of respect to Moesha ! I would be hurt if they said it to me Because like Mo It would represent a symbol of our love ...
see this is a prime example of how men and women are different ...for a lady it doesnt mean you are materialistic about a DEFINING moment ....the ring is the symbol of said event...however!!! if she was a digger first off ...her attitude wud more likely be moment;shhmoment....she also wud say yoo ainnn gittin dis ring back boo! own care! secondly ...a digger wud have gotten waaay haay haay MORE than one Lulloh ring outta his buhine
Period, the moment, the memory. A guide to the journey ahead of them. She even found a solution that would've benefited both of them. His ego was the problem. His priority was making it big, he should've prioritized better until he was able to get engaged.
@@nikkikissem8712 ...well if you reeealy look at it ...NO (reeal) MAN wud want their issues hung out for all to see ...sooo not sure if its and "ego" issue .......nowwww if HEEE went to go find the solution thru another man ...its noo problem
Q shouldn’t never proposed 2 mo, they’re 2 young 2 gt married, Mo & Q makes a cute couple, I love ❤️ & miss Q his real name is Fredro Starr on that show & real life he was born & raised & grew up up n New York he’s my 12th favorite rapper, I didn’t want them 2 break up again.
This is why people like Q needed to stay single, blew up with his group and💰 alone. Leave broads and lames like Moesha an Hakeem out of his life and get with like minded individuals who understand Long term gain, better partnership and self love. Fellas take notes of females like this and 🏃♂️.
I agree...a strong relationship has a foundation In real life there are many relationships of marriage over 40 years that sacrificed for the long term but society states this is not true as they prefer the fast food mentality... Moesha was immature looking back in general as she always told everyone wat was happening in her relationship and could never be honest to her parents... It was easier for Moesha to give back the ring instead of grow up... That's y some ppl don't go forth with certain decisions cuz they are not prepared to let things go
As an adult now i can say she had a young and dumb moment lol....I was always team Hakeem tho but I loved Street niggas LOL!!!! Q and TK from parent hood LMAOOO
Ppl don't want to say her character was immature but it was looking back...she wasn't even mature enough to sit with her parents and tell them she was engaged; she mentioned it at the last minute only to make her man feel uncomfortable along with sharing her personal relationship with others is a no no..
She should have given him the ring, like she said pipe dream you either believe in your man or you don't. Old head told him to do it to see how she handled herself.
Why did he give it to HER she didn't ask for that,and then take it back if anything pride should have told him not TO and she sacrafice but he COULDN'T yes music matter but what about AJOB a career sacrifices had to be made but that RING shouldn't have to be one of them yes moe was being materalisic but they both weren't READY he couldn't manage MONEY and she was SPOILED they could have both been broke and struggling TOGETHER in my opinion because he would have sacrificed his music just to keep that ring because its symbolic
I agree, the guy is more important than the ring any day I understand he shouldn't have gotten that upset and her response I can understand it but it wasn't that deep.
@@KevinGardnerJr Out of everything that happened in the last episode, what could both Hakeem and Moesha need to talk to Frank about that was so urgent? Literally nothing happened that they needed to discuss.
@@DavidKen878 I think it would have been Q realistically I don't think she was sexually involved with Hakeem. it didn't last long enough especially what happened with Niecy.
All in all, the show started going downhill after Moesha's dad brought in Dorian. Personally I admit they were both young, dumb and made a lot of emotional decisions. I didn't think the ring was that big of a deal. When people get married the woman should care more about the man than the ring, its not like he wasn't going to get it back or give her a new one. They had a natural chemistry and that whole mess with Hakeem was a waste of screen time they were friends since forever, they both dated other people and were cool with it. Why all the sudden when Q comes in the picture he is pining for her now? And if he liked her that much like he claimed, why would he cheat with Niecy? It probably hurt Moesha more knowing Hakeem knew better and growing up together as a friends and trying a relationship. The writers really messed up here badly.
Most definitely....I think Frank always knew that out of everyone Q loved Moesha but it's also something he wasn't willing to accept because of them being young and his perception of Q....Moesha always appeared scared of her love for Q as well as it was easier to move on to other ppl as he did the same but with growth, maturity and wise counsel I believe they would have been a good couple
Watching this clip as an adult, I'm trying to figure out why the hell Q is paying for all of this stuff as the producer in the first place. Since when does the producer of an album pay for the artist studio time, food, travel, hotel expenses etc🤔? That's something a label would do. I see if he own a label and they were signed to his label but doesn't own a label, he just the producer and sounds like he's getting fuck over by whoever he's working with js‼
She had Dee. A stepmother is a mother figure especially one who was very involved and available to her step kids like Dee was. Moesha just liked to do whatever she wanted to do.
That's a wise statement... Dee was always busy trying to calm down Frank and Frank didn't listen... The lesson should have been on how to have a successful marriage.. Everyone Frank liked never showcased any real commitment to Moesha... Looking back Moesha appears in love with the look of a relationship over wat a relationship actually entails... Hakeem just didn't want Moesha to move on from him but his reasoning for being rude to Q was also pointless... Even with Hakeem Moesha got mad at him plenty times for working instead of going out etc...love is there between them but I think if the show wanted to they could have shown how to have Christian counsel etc to build a foundation
I feel like yeah q was being prideful but ok if she really loves him she should’ve already known he wouldn’t like her asking another man for help. And if she really loved him she would’ve believed in his dream and been down ring or not . I’m on q’s side
Moesha helped Q get the money, so I don't see why Q was soo pressed about taking the ring🙄 knowing moesha made sure he got the money so that was he doesn't have to take the ring ...
I agree with you, but for alot of men its an issue of pride. They'll starve, just so they can say they can say they have their pride. It doesn't make sense but it is what it is.
Moesha’s heart was in the right place but what she did was wrong. You don’t reveal your man’s troubles to another man especially when it concerns finances. She inserted another man into Q’s business affairs and possible made him vulnerable to his industry peers. If Q took that money he would have to share the profits from his group’s music with this other guy. Moesha was young and she didn’t know any better but that just evidence that she wasn’t ready to be married.
Lmao I bet she regretted not listening to her dad after that smh 😂😂😂😂😂 no stability but talked about marriage smh his priorities were messed up and was immature with money and his pride made it worse he truly sucked 😂
That’s what I’m saying. I will NEVER understand why chicks who come from stable middle class homes are so infatuated with street types. I guess it’s the change of pace??
@@Meta_Meech hmm, good question but Q wasn't street or a killer or anybody that's bad.. he just was a rapper & had a "hood" persona but he had big dreams but wasn't good at making decisions in order to get to those dreams& he wasn't smart with money nor did he have a plan B Q wasn't a relationship kind of guy he had never had a gf before mo & he just wasn't ready ..moesha was what u would call a good girl & opposites attract it's kinda cool having someone bring you out of your comfort zone and you bring them out of theirs so ig u can say the change in pace in a way lol
@aaronflowers8881 Nah fr. They definitely were. However, Moesha was moving too fast. Only to end up being disappointed in the end. Q had never even tried to change. He always would leave and come back when he felt like it. I believe he loved her, but he was not mature enough to settle down the way she wanted to.
