Maybe now that Texas chick will know not to push her horse so much, she is lucky that horse isn't dead. Slow and steady wins the race.... this is technically an *ENDURANCE* ride, so you have to *PACE* yourself.
Nikki B The Orcinus orca you would think that if you looked behind you- and you don't see anybody coming, you could back off, or even get off and walk the horse in so the P & R would be better at the finish.
My mother rode in the Vermont 100-mile ride. Her horse was quite competitive, dominant in the pasture, and was accustomed to being in front as the carriage horse in a buggy & ponies outing. Once he realized there was always another horse in front somewhere, he wanted to overtake it and pulled the entire ride. He was rather stiff at the finish.
Texas girl pushes horse way too hard in order to be .....FIRST! Poor horsie. Typical Texas attitude, "me, me, me". Ends up losing the race. Love what the Brit had to say about her in the beginning. The rest of the contestants, damn cool.
Lesson for the kiddies folks: Don't push your horse to the max in races like these. Even if you're switching horses at each vet check, the horse you're riding has to be in good shape, constantly pushing your horse to the edge of death each time makes the vet penalize you or throw you out. The horse has to have signs of a good heart rate when he goes through the vet check and if not, it's over. Notice how Devon came in at a gallop while the other one rode in at a steady, slow trot. That's why she won.
This is a mongol horse can ride much longer then any other horse but these morons think that witch chocolet cookies they can win a true mongol rides with nothing but some bread and some water. They have no idea what they are doing.
One: The horses should have been trained for months to build up energy storages inside them, and to build good hearts that can work hard for long time. Secondly: Obviously, the horses in this race are not pure Mongolian horses. They are cross bred horses.
not just a "good heart rate" (A low heart rate), Good hydration/skin tenting/ cap refill and good gut sounds. Being a team member w/ your horse is how a good rider thinks. Using your animal like a machine- well- you deserve to get pulled and penalized. I just lost my endurance mare a few days ago- we competed for over ten years with a 100% completion rate and always top ten.
Unlike Western horse racing, which consists of short sprints generally not much longer than 2 km, Mongolian horse racing as featured in Naadam is a cross-country event, with races 15-30 km long. Up to 1000 horses from any part of Mongolia can be chosen to participate. Race horses are fed a special diet. Children from 5 to 13 are chosen as jockeys who train in the months preceding the races. Let me say that agai, 5 to 13 years old...
Macsization horses need forage for the most part ie: hay/roughage, fiber. But also, if working hard like those endurance horses, can use some concentrated food- but for the most part- forage is the most vitally important food for the horses well being.
jett888 "Mongolian horses" do not need hay. They're fast and have high stamina. Also they're able to graze on wild grass because they're a hardy breed of horse. The more you know.
Damn, not much has changed from Genghis Khan days. Kinda happy to see they held onto their traditions even if most of the population is no longer nomadic.
Wow. I feel like this kind of horse race represents and demonstrates the true power of horses in ancient battlefields. Not always running full speed at the time. Pacing your horse and fighting it out -- battles can sometime last a long time. When your army win, your horse and you need to chase them down. When your side loses, your horse and you better still have energy to run away.
During the 13th & 14th century they did this in full armor. Every Mongolian warrior had 4 to 5 horses and they switched between them during a 50 mile a day ride. The "reserve" horses would gallop allong with them and stay relatively fresh that way. They also excusively rode lactating mares and the fouls would keep up all the way. Mongolian ponies are the toughest bred horses in the world able to outrun the best Arabian thoroughbreds and break them. All this vetinarian crap was not neccesary back then. Either the horse took it or died but 9 times out of ten, outside of battle, a Mongolian warrior would stop before that happened. His horses were more important to him then god. And if he mistreated them he'd be severely punished even facing dead for it by his fellow warriors.
True, but today you have organizations like PETA and other animal rights activists who would throw a fit if they did that kind of stuff without checks. That and like Devon showed while riding and probably several other competitors: They wanted to ride and win, and would be unrealistic most likely on how their horses condition were to be able to do so. It happens a lot, and it's sad, they're magnificent horses. I saw a show about the horses and the Mongols relationship with them modern day and it was amazing how they treat and care for them.
I had the privilege of meeting Lynne at SWVADA event and listening to a talk of hers and she spoke about the derby and it is probably the toughest ride on the planet i cant imagine 600 miles in 9 days the most i have done is 50 miles in 3 days. a salute to all the riders
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the only problem/issue I see where the horses may not be in the best hands is that the riders are not the owners of these horses, making that important bond to take care of the animal missing :~{ The thing I love about endurance is the true bond with my horses.
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That’s not really how Mongolian horeseriding works; herders keep a herd of perhaps 50 horses which roam the step, and the herder changes his horse every 3 months or so. It could have been several years since a horse was last ridden; imagine breaking in a mustang every few months.
So true mongols ride with no gear and do it all there lives these morons think they did well they only lost to the people with knoledge and love for these animals
iam a navajo, i ride my horse without a saddle, my first time to break a horse in was around 11 yr. iam 5'7" and most of my horses' back are tall than me. haha worst thing that happen to me while riding a horse was dashboard head first onto a rock out in the range alone and just getting up and still had to ride home, also a few hours before that I wrestled my way on to that very horse. sold that horse to a roper down in tuba city.
i don't mean to be offensive but i still feel like the mongolian horses and the mongolians themselves know best how to survive this kind of environment.
First time I have Heard of the Mongolian Race, thank you for posting it. 100 miles+ a day is tough as compeditors in races like the Tavis Ride over the Sierras can testify. A 25 mile streach for an uncondition ponny carrying rider and gear is not bad. That over ½ of the compeditors had to drop out! I suspect they ran the ponnies too hard, running them as shown in the film will take the wind out of them pretty fast. Top endurance riders trott their horses seldom breaking over into a run.
I saw a video of an Arab endurance race where American riders were in it and did well. They rode most of it at a steady ground covering canter. I know the trot is the norm but apparently it isn't the only way to do things.
WachdByBigBrother Yes the shorter 40km. race, the longer 80 - 100 - 120 and 160km would be at the trott. Charles II of England (1660 - 1680) inferred the rules of racing that the 6year old horse was to win two 4 mile (6.4km) heats, often having to do two more heats in the same day. This was in order to breed top horses. We do not want people believing that running the endurance horse is the norm.
WachdByBigBrother yes, it depends on the horse. If they have a relaxed, calm canter, it can cover ground nicely. I have one who canters most of the ride and my others feel more comfortable at the trot. I allow the horse to pick the gait (most of the time)- but I pick the speed.
Stop torturing Mongolian horses!!! if you want ride mongolian horses spend at least couple days to bond with them first!!! I see that all the participants used their own SADDLES either american or english wich is the most cruel thing thing to do.Why? because it's not what the horses are used to (UNCOMFORTABLE). Just look how the horses acting after few hours of ride :( . I am Mongolian and i don't like how they're treating horses to satisfy themselfs!!!
Changing a sadddle, as long as it is fitted correctly, is no problem whasoever. I've thrown a western saddle on my english mare for the fun of it, and she was absolutely perfectly behaved as well as content.
850 horses in a race in outer Mongolia. 3 Americans in this race, 1 woman from Houston, TX and Tom, a risk management analyst from Texas as well. A Buddhist Monk blesses the race. 25 checkpoints on this 620 mile journey. Wow!
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Hmm, I dislike that this is all about racing, reaching each station, and winning. It has nothing to do with bonding with a horse or even getting to know them. All the riders were just thrown on horses who didn't know them, and evidently they were not always willing participants. The time penalty that cost that rider her win was crushing, but deserved. These horses are basically forced to serve humans in this race; the least the riders can do is not OVER work the horses. The very fact that this is a race implies that winning will inevitably be more important to some people than the wellbeing of the horses who carry them the whole way.
As an endurance rider-you can be ethical in your sport but still care more about winning than snuggling some random horse that you’re going to ride once for two hours and then never see again. You can ride them safely, humanely, and with appreciation-& then hand the reins to someone and do your next leg. Professional riders do this every day.
Aside from the fact that this is not a derby... Or really a horse race. It is a mounted relay race. Aside from flat races over dirt or turf tracks (on the grass), and steeplechases (as in National Velvet and Champions - which was a true story, and the winner of the Grand National in that true movie was played by the horse himeself), there are also endurance races. The race known as the Tevis Cup covers 100 miles over the western Continental Divide and must be completed by the same horse and rider team, in under 24 hours. The horses are vetted at regular stops, and are not allowed to go on if they are not in top condition. The Mongols are certainly outstanding horsemen. (Gender neutral term) Their animals, which would be called ponies in any English speaking country as they stand less than 14.2 (fourteen hands, 2 inches, with 4 inches to a hand) at the withers (high point at the base off the neck), are amazing. It is good to see that they have not 'improved' them with crosses to horses from elsewhere.
Each horse goes through 25 miles each so each person has 25 different horses in one race.....the horses well-being is more important than anything in the race
I want to do this one day. I've done a 100 mile endurance race with my arab, but doesn't even seem relevant compared to this. It looks like they are on the native ponied as opposed to their own. It not easy to do an endurance race on horses you've never ridden before. Best of luck to them!
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200 miles a day!?? Even though the terrain is mild, that is BRUTAL on the horses. Especially when competition spurs immature young girls to try to push them as hard as possible in order to win. Should be prizes for least abused horse and other incentives which don't rely on overworking the animals, like most weight lost by a rider during the race....
They have vet checks, resting points, etc... And arabs and other stamina breeds can be ridden up to 100 miles and over a day without a problem. They just need work and training, a lot of endurance built up. Mustangs make great endurance horses too. The vets also check each horse at each stop, if the horse is showing an signs of stress or exhaustion, the contestant is immediately kicked out of the race and/or severely penalized which as they explained, can be very painful to riders. The horses welfare is first always in races like this. They push the horse hard, they get nothing, not even a consolation prize. And you can't slow down the horse at the last half mile or so before the resting spot, or even spend forever at a stop resting your horse because they will still show signs of distress, even after a half hour rest. It's a time limit when you enter a rest stop on how long you can cool down your horse before going through the vet check. The horse is showing signs of not being able to bring it's vitals down after a certain amount of time, the rider is thrown out, no questions asked. These horses are probably the best cared for sport horses in any competition.
For This you need to have a good past and don’t do to fast or very slow you need to don’t push your yourself or your horse to the max..I would do this if I had the chance! Looks like a fun adventure
i suspected that the first riders to the finish site would involve some over performance damage to a horse from the riders having too great a competitive spirit to come in before all the others ~
An average person doesn't have this kind of money to throw around just for an entry to this race. Instead you could just spend less money than that to really experience Mongolia at your own leisurely pace. You could still ride off into the plains of Mongolia and feel the wind on your face.
She should have gone as slow as possible, and gotten off the horse and walked/jogged along side and ONLY get on IF she saw her rival in the distance but still go slow until she caught up, then pace her rival. miss TX would have won as her horse was well rested.
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... .... She was so clearly more upset from not winning than from finding out she's worked her horse too hard. Laura is no better! "I just got on some horses and kicked them a bit and managed to get away with that.." Neither of these people deserve to ride.
Grow up .... please! There is no evidence in the film of ill-treatment to any horse in the race; these horses are bred for and accustomed to long distance endurance journeys on the Mongolian plains. Obviously there is no place for horses in this event which are not bred and born for such work
Heartless comment, 1066PV ! Is it only evidence in the film that matter? Go, take yourself the place of a horse in such a mad race, and you'll see, if you like it. Anyting you do to one of these ..(helpless ones).. you do it to me. (That is: against life and humanity.) (I hope I got it somewhat clear what I mean.)
@@1066PV Exactly "These horses are bred for and accustomed to long distance endurance journeys", that wasn't her point. If you look into the history of this race -- horses back then, had a 'purpose'. A system created by Genghis Khan to deliver messages across the land. There wouldn't be such race today if it wasn't for the connection Mongolian people had with their horses -- it wouldn't be famous if it weren't for that. But these girls are acting like spoilt little brats who didn't get the toy they wanted from their parents. Only in it to win, acting like the animal who carries them is just an object. Animals don't choose to be enslaved by us, we force them to do these things. So those girls should AT LEAST be respectful to the damn animal......
If any point you tried to make was based on objective observation and experience rather than Disney-esque emotion it might have a chance of being obvious to a reader Gunnar. Tell me please ..... how's life being a horse in your part of the world? I hear they eat you when you've finished being of service. My horses spend their lives in retirement in the shade of a tree with as much paddock feed as they can eat.
1066PV except that there *was* evidence of ill-treatment of the horse and that was exactly why Devan didn't win the race even if she got there first. 🤔
We're there any actual Mongolians riding in this race? Seems weird that everyone is foreign :-/ ETA That matching pair of duns are absolutely gorgeous.
The kids are lighter...so the younger the kid...the easier it is for the horse to make it to the finish line...Of course, the kid still needs to learn how to control the horse to get to the finish line....
In total the official length of it all is 14 days, which include 3 days of training before the race, but in total the race is about 10 days. This is though, also dependent on your skill level as most people aren't used to riding a horse from sunrise to sunset for 10 days and could very easily break a few people, I think there was one in this video who only lasted two days, which is sad but better than pushing yourself too far.
That's what you get when all you care is about winning and you're created a rival who could have been a friend, since I think she let her emotions get the better of her and could care less about the horse. But that's America, we're all about winning ALONE and at ANY cost. As all she had to do is slow down get off and walk/jog along side the horse as obviously she weights 20+lbs more then her rival. I'd also have dropped any extra gear at the last checkpt, and ONLY gotten back on IF I saw my rival. THEN you can let loose and see which horse cools down first and since you had taken the weight off and slowed down you'd be the likely winner for sure.
The funny thing that Vietnamese who see Mongol horse first time, used by Mobile Police Cavalry, they thing that is Vietnamese domestic horse and said it ugly and small, not as good as Western horse, lol.
Arab and american long races are not even close to this omg I have done this at mongolia but only for 50 miles there but there is longer ones which I would die on the way
Jazzmin Stuckey lmao they’d get lame and sore 50 miles in and are some of the hardest keepers I’ve ever seen - you’re gonna have the money to feed and pamper hundreds of thoroughbreds to race through this terrain? Lmao I’d pay good money to see that
Whats the big deal , its the freakin horses that have to carry them and do all the hard work , its not a big deal to win a race by sitting on a horse and thrashing the crap out of it now is it ?
and it's not a big deal to say "oh look at me! i tapped a ball! I'm so amazing!". anyone can run, and anyone can kick a ball. so you could say that football is easy. not anyone can control an unpredictable monster ten times their size. only idiots think that their sport is the best and the hardest. if it wasn't a sport, why is it in the Olympics?
