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Monique Bass Preamp, Noble Preamp, Demeter VTBP-201S, J-B15, London S-PRE. Tube bass preamp 2/3 

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Here's a shootout of Legendary and DIY Tube bass preamp!
The Bass is a Fender P 1964 with 20hrs rounds strings. Tone open 100%. The bass line come from a friend of mine, Yves Labonté , Celine Dion actual bass player. Here is a link of the original song:
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-sWjABbAR93c.html

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@darwinsaye
@darwinsaye 3 года назад
My favourites by far, were the London S-PRE, and the Demeter. PERFECT bass tones!
@bassadelica
@bassadelica 5 месяцев назад
That S pre sounds freaking amazing. Demeter as well.
@zoktoberfest
@zoktoberfest 3 года назад
The future of bass equipment is powered cabinets. Powerful and reliable, light weight and cool running class D plate amps that are permanently mounted in to the back of the cabinet and plug into a wall socket. It's the way to go. To control the sound signal going to these powered cabinets requires or would benefit innumerably by using a well designed preamp. All the warm colored tube sound or whatever sound preferences can be shaped in these devices. There are pedals and boxes that do similar things, but there is something about a dedicated preamp that sits on the cabinet in place of that heavy and expensive power amp that remains appealing...but maybe that's just me and my taste. I always thought that classic tube compressor circuitry should be at the heart of the preamp. Another feature that should be present, but never is: an active crossover for bi-amp potential, especially when using a 5 staring bass (low B). A dedicated subwoofer that can reach down to 30 Hz (low B) is a must. Most bass equipment can barely reach 40 Hz (low E). All you would need for the top end is a small bass combo or even a guitar amp since no bass below a 100 Hz would be sent to via the crossover. But again that's just me and my taste for extended low end.
@Welshhomie
@Welshhomie 2 года назад
Had the pleasure of using a Bergantinto powered 410 once. Earth shatteringly good with seemingly endless headroom.
@KevinMajka
@KevinMajka 4 года назад
Really nice side by side and bass line. Thanks for sharing this! Hats off to Yves for the nice line!
@daithiban
@daithiban 4 года назад
great job! the ones you built really hold their own against the known brands!
@robertstapleton3598
@robertstapleton3598 4 года назад
Man, that's a great video! Perfectly done so that the listener can really hear them both in and out of a mix. I was super impressed with the S-Pre for a deep, vintage sound. Not as much clarity, but that's not what vintage is. It sounded full all over the neck and blended beautifully into the mix - perfect for this kind of song. The Monique seemed to be on the other end of the spectrum with great clarity but less full on the G string and parts of the D. Of course, there are tone knobs to tweak, so maybe it could wind up the best of both worlds. :) The others seemed to fall in between and really they all sounded great. Thanks for doing a wonderful job recording these!
@jochoui
@jochoui 4 года назад
Thanks Robert!
@bassplayer9432
@bassplayer9432 4 года назад
Great comparison - thanks for taking the time to make such a video!
@andreyzolotarev3356
@andreyzolotarev3356 4 года назад
Just wanted to say I've been watching your videos for a while now and I love your work mate. Awesome videos, awesome tones!
@jochoui
@jochoui 4 года назад
Nice! Thanks a lot Andrey!
@valbeccia8591
@valbeccia8591 3 года назад
The Demeter and your own pre are awesome
@OsmarOliveira
@OsmarOliveira 4 года назад
All of them are great, but there's something about that Jules preamp... It just sounds beautiful...
@reggaebass1857
@reggaebass1857 7 месяцев назад
I’ve watched all your videos and they are all great, especially liking this one, I nearly bought a Jule Monique a while back but didn’t really think I needed it as I use an Ampeg V4B , so not sure, I’ve subscribed to your channel too, thank you for sharing your equipment
@sumeursault
@sumeursault 7 месяцев назад
I mean, once you put it in the context of the full mix, the Noble wins...no eq needed, already sounds perfect. Congrats on that '64 P-bass, wow what a stunning instrument
@WallyBarnum
@WallyBarnum 4 года назад
very cool. great comparison, and nice playing to boot! nice work!
@halcyo
@halcyo 3 года назад
Both of your DIY pre's sound better than the Monique and Noble to me. My favorite is the Demeter, but your DIY units are equally awesome for different tones.
@minibuns5397
@minibuns5397 Год назад
Agree with this
@jojoba619
@jojoba619 4 года назад
Great preamp comparison. The Monique, Noble, and Jb-15 sound great: each preamp adding the right amount of mid-frequencies to cut through the mix perfectly. The Demeter and London Power S-pre sounded good, but in my opinion were a little thin in the mids when compared to the Monique, Noble, and the JB-15. Hopefully, you get the opportunity to demo a Shaw Tube Injection. I would like to hear how it compares to other preamps you have demoed. Thank you for producing these videos. Cheers!
@tminus1019
@tminus1019 2 года назад
I sold all my other preamps: Demeter, Aguilar, Noble, and my Kern after getting the J-B15. I later put NOS RCA tubes in it and it's on another level.
@jochoui
@jochoui 2 года назад
Hey thanks for the comment!
@rome8180
@rome8180 4 года назад
Unsurprisingly, I liked the most expensive one the best. They all sound great though.
@luka3679
@luka3679 2 года назад
Men what a perfect demo. I prefer stoner and pick playing but your bass line is so cool and your tone amazing. bravo.
@ichouinard
@ichouinard 4 года назад
Nice demo Jo, ton J-B15 se défend particulièrement bien. Good job!
@jochoui
@jochoui 4 года назад
Heille merci Ian! Je vais mettre la main sur un Tonecraft 363 bientôt. Je vais refaire un démo avec tous les grands preamp de basse digne de ce nom...haha
@propositionjohnston
@propositionjohnston 3 года назад
Your london power kit sounds easily as good as anything. Well done.
@jettrex9287
@jettrex9287 3 года назад
@Jerry Lachlan yup, I've been using Flixzone for years myself :)
@Big_Boi23
@Big_Boi23 2 года назад
London S-PRE definitely fit the song the best. Deep, rich, smooth, and punchy. Very impressed, especially given the price. Jule Monique has the most character but too much midrange "honk" for this track. Would probably kill on more of a funk track or even rock. J-B15 sounds like, well, a nice B15. Not as deep as the S-PRE but sits nicely with its characteristic midrange sound. The Demeter sounds more neutral, hi-fi, and seems to have more dynamics (less compression) than the others. None of them are bad, and the "best" preamp likely depends on the application (genre, track, instrument, player, etc.).
@francisromero6300
@francisromero6300 2 года назад
Good video, I like the Monique the most.
@vladimirvojinovic4026
@vladimirvojinovic4026 4 года назад
Great test !
@jochoui
@jochoui 4 года назад
Thanks Vladimir!
@ERGOtheEGO
@ERGOtheEGO 4 года назад
Dang dude. That London S-PRE sits in that mix sooooo clean. And with leftover parts!? GOODNESS. I'm seeing other requests for builds in the comments. How much could you build me one? Shipped to Nashville, TN
@ERGOtheEGO
@ERGOtheEGO 4 года назад
Also, what cab and mic are you using to track? Sounds so killer man. Amazing work
@jochoui
@jochoui 4 года назад
Sry I don’t build preamps anymore.
@jochoui
@jochoui 4 года назад
They were recorded direct to the audio interface. ( DI )
@ishta
@ishta 4 года назад
Demeter for me. The bass may be tuned sightly sharp. I have a vintage demeter before he called them VTB
@octavelocity
@octavelocity 4 года назад
Agreed. Listening on monitors really shows how much more sub that unit offers compared to the others.
@octavelocity
@octavelocity 4 года назад
But after listening to the "in the mix" versions on speakers, the J-B15 and the Noble are winning for me...Hm.
@Mrpsblobsoflowendmung
@Mrpsblobsoflowendmung 4 года назад
To me your B15 pre sounds the best , lovely bass is that a 64 65 My own 63 loves tube pres
@jochoui
@jochoui 4 года назад
Thanks Bob! Yeah it's a 64 refenish in the 60's. Life is too short to, not play a vintage Fender :) Cheers!
@huublelieveld8918
@huublelieveld8918 4 месяца назад
There is a level difference between the different D.I.s, that does make it hard/unfair to compare. I do appreciate the comparison. But even a difference of 0.5 db completely changes your perception.
@jochoui
@jochoui 4 месяца назад
You are right! My recording skills and tools were limited :)
@jcisme
@jcisme Год назад
J-B15 was my fave..
@luigi.zanini
@luigi.zanini 5 месяцев назад
Noble 4:15 London S-Pre 4:55 Monique 5:35
@justinmaldonado5613
@justinmaldonado5613 4 года назад
Your handmade pres sound better than the Monique dude
@jochoui
@jochoui 4 года назад
Haha! Thanks To the famous Ampeg B15!
@jflbassgroove
@jflbassgroove 4 года назад
@@jochoui Je confirme ;)
@octavelocity
@octavelocity 4 года назад
So bummed you're not making your pre's anymore! I think you won the shootout.
@jochoui
@jochoui 4 года назад
Haha thanks! There are some units on the way. Version 3.0 of J-B15!
@octavelocity
@octavelocity 4 года назад
jo choui Awesome!! ETA? How long do I have to be patient (miserable) for? Also, have you ever tried a Broughton P-15? How do you feel your units compare?
@jochoui
@jochoui 4 года назад
@@octavelocity No I did not try the Broughton P-15. It’s probably the same circuit. The J-B15 have a vintage tone and feel. More colored than Fender preamps/ Demeter for exemple.
@jochoui
@jochoui 4 года назад
@@octavelocity I’m testing 2 different configuration right now. They will be ready for November. I’ll make a video about theme. Stay in tune!
@octavelocity
@octavelocity 4 года назад
@@jochoui Killer. Can't wait!
@rodrigocostamagna3896
@rodrigocostamagna3896 2 года назад
IMO, Noble.. then you add whatever you want...
@DavidJones-hd7jj
@DavidJones-hd7jj 4 года назад
Jb15 sounds the warmest.
@davim.6073
@davim.6073 2 года назад
Wow -these are all awesome! And amazing results with the ones you built! Question: What was the signal chain? Anything else used besides the preamps?
@jochoui
@jochoui 2 года назад
Hey thanks! Signal chain is Preamp/audio interface/no software tweek.
@davidhammers9708
@davidhammers9708 3 года назад
love this comparison, well done! have you tried the Jule Simone?
@jochoui
@jochoui 3 года назад
Not yet! Pretty new and it’s on a wait list. Would love to try it. I’m sure its fantastic!
@jayl5941
@jayl5941 4 года назад
Always enjoy your videos. How was it recorded? Any post processing?
@jochoui
@jochoui 4 года назад
Nop! Straight from the audio interface. Di to my laptop.
@jochoui
@jochoui 4 года назад
Thanks!
@tomforde8321
@tomforde8321 2 года назад
🤯
@geekguitars
@geekguitars 4 года назад
Thank you so much for doing the comparison!! The Demeter has been on my radar for awhile now too. I just recently visited Basscentral down in Orlando FL and they had a bunch of Demeter heads...this gives me a rough estimate of how the rack compares to the bass 800d heads they had in stock. Was the bright switch on with the Demeter??
@jochoui
@jochoui 4 года назад
Hi geekguitars! No switch at all engaged on the demeter in this demo! I'm glad it helps
@geekguitars
@geekguitars 4 года назад
@@jochoui WOW!! That Demeter sure is bright!! That p bass definitely had that magic tone with that unit. How does it compare to your all tube amps like the Traynor YBA300 or Super Bassman?
@jochoui
@jochoui 4 года назад
The Demeters are very clean preamps. They add a warm tone without overdrive/saturation. Pretty straight foward and easy to use like an all tube amp. Paired with a classD power amp, you are close to the Superbassman. It will never be a monster all tube amp but you can dial nice bass tone!
@geekguitars
@geekguitars 4 года назад
@@jochoui thank you for the feedback. I think if I go all tube, I will probably start out small like an Ampeg vb4, Traynor YBA100 or ashdown ctm 100 etc. I've had a few all tube peers who've struggled with power tube reliability and then there are who've never had an issue at all. I can totally live with being close and having less to worry about. Again thank you so much. You've been a huge help.
@pirhala
@pirhala 2 года назад
Do you make anything with a fender showman preamp?
@jochoui
@jochoui 2 года назад
I’m making a really nice Fender « like » bass preamp. But not specificaly a Showman.
@jochoui
@jochoui 2 года назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-MXpXonvhOdM.html
@edwardbrown561
@edwardbrown561 4 года назад
Have you tried a Broughton P15? Fryette Valvulator gp/di can get a lot those tones as well
@jochoui
@jochoui 4 года назад
I'm sure it does. It's the same schematic as the J-B15 except the J-B15 have a tube driven xfo/Line out instead of a MOSFET. I don't feel the need to buy something I can make ;)
@jochoui
@jochoui 4 года назад
Nop! I didn't try it.
@matrud_bass
@matrud_bass 4 года назад
Which tube are you using to drive the Jensen transformer? Is your line out also transformer driven? Cheers!
@edwardbrown561
@edwardbrown561 4 года назад
@@jochoui I wasn't challenging your build, just stating and observation. But with the output, FET or tube cathode follower, either shouldn't effect tone correct? I have both 1st and 2nd gen Arkham Zephyr, one with a AX7 and one solid state output, I cant tell a difference when I A/B each. Same with Sonic Farm tantra
@jochoui
@jochoui 4 года назад
M R a 12AU7. Yes the line out is transformer driven.
@cmcshan89
@cmcshan89 4 года назад
Great video. Do you still make/sell the J-B15? I may be interested in getting one if so!
@jochoui
@jochoui 4 года назад
Yes, some units on the way.
@HF1600ie
@HF1600ie 2 года назад
I just love the tweed amp with 5 controls. Is there a schematic of it or where can i buy one ?
@jochoui
@jochoui 2 года назад
It’s a London power bass preamp kit. I made the tweed case and power supply. I can build one for you. /end of septembre.
@harrisonwagner6597
@harrisonwagner6597 4 года назад
When will you make more J-B15s? I would like to buy one.
@jochoui
@jochoui 4 года назад
Some more units on the way.
@carjepseb
@carjepseb 4 года назад
Have you tried the Usefull Arts preamp/linedriver?
@jochoui
@jochoui 4 года назад
Carsten Neumann no I don’t! Would love to, but I found that all purpose tube pre sound good in studio (bass wise) but are just doing ok in live situation (when doing your own monitoring). Pretty much like the Tonecraft 363. They would no be my first choice. (It’s my humble taste and opinion). For the same prix, I would go all in Demeter.
@HoldenItaly
@HoldenItaly 4 года назад
what kind of strings you used? great...!
@jochoui
@jochoui 4 года назад
Thanks! I used Ernie balls power slinky bass rounds 110-55
@nickweathers1917
@nickweathers1917 4 года назад
Where do I buy the J-B15? Can I get one fully assembled?
@jochoui
@jochoui 4 года назад
Some more units on the way. Direct from me.
@nakkamarra
@nakkamarra 2 года назад
Hey Jo, do you still build the J-B15? Is there any where / any way I could order one from you?
@jochoui
@jochoui 2 года назад
Hi Nick! I can build one for you. Are you in North America? Contact me here for more informations jonathanchouinard@videotron.ca
@preciseaudioblog
@preciseaudioblog 25 дней назад
1:49 😂
@francoislefebvre2469
@francoislefebvre2469 3 года назад
Aurais tu d’autres J-B15 de prévu ? Je suis intéressé.
@jochoui
@jochoui 3 года назад
Tu habites quelle région Francois?
@francoislefebvre2469
@francoislefebvre2469 3 года назад
@@jochoui J’habite en france.
@jochoui
@jochoui 3 года назад
D’accord. Malheureusement je ne fait pas de produit pour le 220v/50hz. Je peux peut-être te suggérer le Broughton P-15 ou le Chillabass 15..?
@francoislefebvre2469
@francoislefebvre2469 3 года назад
@@jochoui j’oubliais ce détail en effet. Merci pour tes suggestions, je vais y jeter un œil. Connaîtrait tu des kits DIY ou des plan de PCB qui se rapproche de la sonorité du J-B15? J’ai une formation en électronique, mais je n’ai pas les connaissances suffisantes pour concevoir le preampli en partant de zéro.
@jochoui
@jochoui 3 года назад
@@francoislefebvre2469 Il est possible de commander un kit DIY de Trinity Amps. Le Triptop est un clone de Ampeg B-15. C’est un ampli complet cependant. À partir de là, tu devrais être capable de te débrouiller :)
@giffswart4729
@giffswart4729 2 года назад
Hi! Do you have a website from which we can order the J-B15 preamp? Thank you!
@jochoui
@jochoui 2 года назад
Hi! I do have a FB page. JoC Bass Amplification. Also: jonathanchouinard@videotron.ca
@jochoui
@jochoui 2 года назад
facebook.com/107935305188191/posts/128909779757410/?d=n
@misultimostiempos
@misultimostiempos 3 года назад
What gear is Yves wearing on the original recording?
@jochoui
@jochoui 3 года назад
The bass was a Fender P bass AVRI with flats. I don’t know about preamp/Di/studio gear.
@kthughey
@kthughey 4 года назад
what kind of roundwounds are on the P bass?
@jochoui
@jochoui 4 года назад
Ernie Ball Regular Slinky 105/50