Monster Hunter Rise | New HEAVY BOWGUN Weapon Gameplay - New Moves, Changes & Silkbind Attacks 

Lol I had the same thought!

i thought i was tripping at first

@@JIGWIGPIG It wasn't my main weapon, but I did enjoy learning it. I'm conflicted on the new horn. It's super cool, and flashy, but did they make it TOO simple? We'll have to see what other horns are like, but right now you can button mash and be nearly as effective as an 'expert'. The skill floor and ceiling don't seem very far apart.

@@JIGWIGPIG I was a LBG/HBG main in World now I'm a Hunting Horn / Hammer main in Rise!

Im still a DBs main like i was in World/Iceborne, but Rise has made me into HH main as well.

That was legit the first thing I thought. For the Emperor brother!

@@Mayceus you mean for paying $400 for a half decent army

Facts

oh shit didnt see it till now, just needs back pack reactor and hes a marine in camo

Hope we get to recolor the armor, gonna look so badass in white/black

Ice pierce on rajang 🤤 (If there is this monster)

Every chance I get I'm using it 🤣

With the heavy damage it does, we want the monster to attack us. Provided that we have the two bug charges...

Hit me!

If i recall correctly, generations had pierce elements.

@@triplecombogaming they did. As internal ammo. So you couldn't craft it and once it was gone it was gone.

@@FerrumAnulum World did too, in a sense. Water was pierce-like iirc.

@@glitchypriest3462 yes but thats ALL world elemental had. It was so annoying im glad they brought back normal elemental shot.

Bro, Monster rancher for life. Sorry, just couldn’t NOT say anything XD

I think I even mounted by shooting it

Or high recoil ammo as well as it episode be faster to charge than to shoot again

I don't think the sticky bombs do any extra famage after charging?

@@tangytablets5150 the do

We'll have to see how dramatic Focus works on the charging speed as well. Might not be by much but it could edge out normal shooting on DPS.

Focus would help

Or down time i.e. staggering or knock downs toward breakable parts

That is the actual best way to do it, smart thinking man. I did the DpS-Tests and charging is less effective than just mashing the shooting-button, even with Focus lvl3. Helps you save ammo though, so it might be a good to use early to mid game to mitigate the cost of ammo a bit. So yeah, as long as one can consistantly hit the weakspots, there is no reason to charge anything but Wyvernshots, Exhaust etc.

@@brandj2020 Nope, Sorry to disapoint, but that`ll do a whole 15% less damage (almost 30+% without FastCharge3) than just shooting it normally. Try Using Wyvernheart, Nornal 3 or Spread when it`s down on the ground flailing about :^)

@@Geccore thanks for testing that out! I think I'll try and make a HBG build

Not gonna lie, that one silkbind move for HH straight up looks like the hunter is going to throw the weapon. Kinda sad they don't, but it makes sense.

Man obsessed with that weapon

wasnt... dragon always piercing tho? like sure in world its slow af but it was goin through the beast and kept on givin

Even if the element is not the monster's weakness?

@@stripedrajang3571 upon testing it seems the it doesn't matter the element...try it yourself in that mount tutorial arena :) im curious to see if this is a thing in tbe actual game

If you look at the Hunter Notes in the demo, and Look at the Elemental Blight Statuses on Monsters has a whole new in-depth mechanic now! Fire Blight = Damage over time & Easier to cause Flinching Water = Makes it easer to break parts on Monster Thunder = Makes it easier to K.O With "Non-Blunt Weapons." Ice = Hinders the monsters movement making them slower. Using those Special Beetles on the Map are going to be a HUGE Thing for the hunts now in Rise! Even if the monster is Resistance to it's own element or so, it's still possible to add the same element to them with Beetles. Now that there are Elemental Pericing rounds you can create in RISE, this is gonna change the Bow/Gunners immensely!!!

@@NurseLee thanks a bunch im gonna read it right now! :)

Good, I wasnt the only one who noticed. Write it as 4:14 so ppl can click directly to it.

Gone from a longsword/hammer to a heavy bowgun and huntinghorn main. I absolutely adore both of them now

Wait, World has gyro aiming? Is it PC only? Because I can't remember if I saw it on PS4.

@@justsomejojo not on consoles but I played on steam with custom controls

@@gamecavalier3230 take a seat young gameninja

Tempting to do gunner just because of that gyro aiming.

@@zackmhuntr25 haven’t used gyro yet, just with the stick it’s great.

Looks like double, so I'm only really using it for sticky right now. Maybe status HBG could be a thing in the future, though?

It has charge levels so unless I have a reason to go full charge, I usually just do a charge to level 1 or 2 and still see a bit of a damage increase

I’ve yet to buy the game, is this still the case or was this patched?

@@tommyvan5361 I havent played in a while so I can't be certain, but as far as I know thats a feature of counters. You block whatever hits you, regardless of block skill or guard up.

You can actually get it if you look for the nuts to craft it but the guns in the demo can't use it(or any of the other ammos you see in the list that aren't already on your inventory).

the charge effects the sticky? i was afraid it would be just the initial impact

@@James-yk5ge yes, the stickies without the full charge shot does 18 dmg, but with the full charge shot it jumps to 31 dmg. That’s a 13 dmg increase, it’s pretty nutty. And unlike say Gunlance shelling stickies are actually effected by attack boosting skills like Agitator, Attack Boost, and Peak Performance. So they don’t fall behind in dmg in the endgame like Gunlance shelling does.

@@Qballiz2kool I kinda wish they’d make Artillery scale way harder for specifically Gunlance shells. Like keep its current %buff for bombs and other things, but jack it way up for specifically GL shelling

@@Qballiz2kool oh wow!! thank you for the detailed reply I super appreciate that!!

It was in World.

Overbuffed cause devs were distraught that nobody cared to play HH at all.

Amen brother. Probably by April we will get some good answers.

I'd be shocked if there isn't both Focus and a skill that improves charged damage. I think with the right set it'll end up being viable. In the demo though, defo not.

This game looks like focus is going to be a meta armor skill

@@Hydraclone ever since they added the ability to see the damage you deal, everyones chasing after those big orange numbers. the hbg charge build, which im guessing will focus on reducing the charge up time, is the perfect way to get those high damage values.

@@CaIasanctius I am going to starved for skills, between the ways to maximise my stickies and the potential for charge. I love it, more viable options are always welcome.

I’m going heavy bowgun but you’re absolutely right. Hammer feels amazing to play with!

Charging is good for crag/sticky shots too.

I think it’s the ammo you can use for that machine gun mode

Same

Yes. If you are not firing or charging a shot and get hit dead on in the demo by the new pack raptor monster (I keep forgetting its name as theres been so many now) your hunter blocks it with a shield on the end of HBG which triggers its block animation. Theres no info yet on what others will return or if new ones will be added. They could be separate or part of where recoil down and reload speed up customizations go. Will need to wait for more info or full game for complete information

The left one is an icon of two feet so it's to let you know which bullets let you sidestep. The other 2 don't work like I thought they would so I'm lost at those. The right one was usually a single clip shot and automatic reload but the clips hold about 5 bullets now so that's why I'm confused too.

@@erosennin4444 the right must one is rapid fire. Use the light bowgun and you will see the fire for normal 1 ammo.

I think that determines whether or not you can move while reloading. It seems like the reload time is the same on ammo with or without it, but if it doesn’t have the green arrows it briefly stops you to reload.

@@elizabethhicks4181 the green swirl i think is auto reload because there is a foot step icon next to it. i think that icon allow you to move while shooting as cluster does not have that icon and you are rooted to the ground when using it.

There's an arrow pointing down that is usually blue that means Auto reload it's the same icon as in iceborne. The feet mean you can move and shoot. I just tested it and I think it does mean you can reload while moving. Every ammo I tried with the icon let me reload while I was walking but every one without it stopped me for a second.

I heard something about the palamute recognising and copying you when you emote so I guess it would be the same here where it would act as an extension of the hunter by doing the same sort of attacks.

@@declanmcbride3952 I do kinda like it. I guess you could use it to take cool action shots.

honestly I enjoy the game more solo.

How do you do it? I can't seem to do it. I'm just rolling sideward.

For Gunner weapons you have to press R+A/X.

Real answer: it works fine in Control Option 1. Just do the button prompt in the notes. However, it seems to be bugged in Control Option 2 (classic/the one I use). The way I have found to activate it is ZL+R+A, smashed all at once together/maybe R a bit earlier. The small window as the reticle is popping up is when it works. The same issue (and workaround) exists for the X+A melee attack.

For the default controller scheme use Right Bumper (RB) + A. For easiest use hold RB before tapping A. Keep in mind that it does use a wirebug charge

I found out you had to quickly press A a couple of times for it to work since just pressing it once, even while holding ZL, just fired the gun.

@@GSS1Sirius When I do this I always fire a shot first. In control scheme 1 it works fine immediately

Faster reload speed, its still more mobile, has a upward angle silkbind dodge allowing you to more easily dodge some attacks, traditionally rapid fire get more out of elemental shots (tho we will need to see in full game if thats still the case with charge shots), some guns could rapid fire crag/sticky in previous generations which is useful in some setups if it returns, and generally has more bowguns that make use of more than one elemental shot which saves time on multi-monster hunts or when a monster has a primary and secondary elemental weaknesses. Basically comes down to what you want to lean more towards in terms of paystyle. Also, speaking personally the slide the LBG can do can be extremely helpful when targeted or in the way.

@@urcovered1231 Historically, Heavy Bowgun has had better recoil, reload, and clip size than Light Bowgun, so that's not a point for Light Bowgun. In the demo, it appears that both the Light Bowgun and Heavy Bowgun have their recoil and reload stats overridden with the same "demo" stats. The only reason elemental ammo is so heavily linked to rapid fire is due to the fact that it has low carrying capacity, meaning you needed the rapid fire for ammo economy, not for damage output. Assuming Heavy Bowgun's charged shot is affected by Focus, it's likely that Heavy Bowgun can now viably use elemental ammo without running out of ammo, so that also doesn't seem to favor Light Bowgun anymore. Being able to run multiple types of elemental ammo isn't really a plus since you shouldn't be running out of your primary ammo in the first place, especially with rapid fire and charged shots being available. Basically, the only thing Light Bowgun has over Heavy Bowgun based on what we can see and assume from the demo is that it has slightly better mobility, and even that gap isn't all that big anymore due to the Heavy Bowgun now getting chainable sidesteps.

@@william_sun I disagree about the HBG on Elemental shots. LBG not only got more out, did more damage overall if shot of a burst hit. Though now with Charge Shots that may be a thing of the past. Went back to check reload speed due to experiences with past games and found it was caused by the attachments I had set and forgotten.

@@urcovered1231 A rapid-fire burst from a Light Bowgun (Alatreon Dominator) deals 2 single shots' worth of damage, and Rapid +1 fires a single burst in 1.17 seconds. Normal +1 from a Heavy Bowgun (any elemental Kjarr Assault) fires 2 shots in 1.6 seconds, but deals 1.5× damage due to Critical Element. In World, this gives Heavy Bowgun a lead in damage output by at least 9% ("at least" because the follow-up shots of rapid-fire are more likely to miss weak points because they cannot be separately aimed), but the Light Bowgun has an enormous 40% lead in ammo economy. If the elemental Kjarr Light Bowguns were able to get Rapid +1, this would be a no-contest victory for Light Bowgun with both a damage and economy lead, but that wasn't the case. While this argument does end up coming down to the exact weapon options we ended up having available to us, it still shows that rapid-fire isn't the deciding factor in terms of damage. Instead, it results in a huge difference in ammo economy, which matters due to the fact that elemental ammo simply doesn't have the carrying capacity to last you through longer hunts on single-fire weapons.

Try R+A or R+X with the weapon out.

@@colclark87 R is aim, because I turned on the option that makes ZL Silkbind like all the other options. Thus, me stating that all other Silkbind attacks on all other weapons work with ZL. Free Silkbind Glide is the only one giving me trouble.

I have been seeing multiple people having that issue, may be a glitch of some sort in the demo

What next expansion? Monster hunter world is now over with expansions and updates as far as I know.

No more expansions is coming to world, it’s done

But hey, you got the perks of using a bowgun too!

for the looks of it, when shooting basic ammo with no recoil and high count it's better to not charge, but when using shots with recoil or low count it's better to charge, so it's more of a hybrid