@@luizcandidoborges2282 Football Marx's The Capital was published in 1867. The first football association club were formed in 1863. I am not a genius, I am simply well-read.
@@JesseArt I have read his ideas. They are poorly thought out and don't hold up to any sort of critical analysis. However, I have also studied his life. He sat and fed off his rich capitalist friend's money, and dreamed of how much better the world would be if everyone followed his ideology. He never actually cared about anyone but himself.
@@ReinoutVrijhoef They're still his hands, aren't they? Or, in a communist state, are they considered shared property (e.g., means of production and all that)?
@@khangasOozaki Perhaps. You might "have" hands in the sense that they are attached (or unattached) to the body you inhabit, but it is the collective that "owns" the hands, proprietarily speaking, as they exist to serve the interests of the communist revolution.
@@Nick154999 Before beeps, races were started by a human with a pistol that said, "On your marks... get set... GO!" (and shot the pistol at the same time as shouting, "GO!"). "Marks" were objects or lines on the ground before blocks were used. Marx was German but had a huge influence on Russians, Starlin and Trotsky who interpreted his writing differently and formed opposing parties after the Russians Revolution. Onya is a Russian name. Onya Marks sounds like, "On your marks" The joke implies Marks had a familial link to Russia. Jokes need the audience to put together missing information themselves, and they laugh if they're successful; there's a lot to put together in this one so most people won't get it! 🥰
The true kings of comedy. Sadly Karl lost both hands but Eric Idle was in such a chipper mood he gave him the non materialistic lounge suite for his troubles but wouldn’t give him a hand to get it out the door
The lounge suite was the perfect choice for Marx, a parasitic layabout who never had a real job. He was a 19th century analogue of today's mom's-basement-keyboard-warrior-brony. In My Little Pony Land, there's no student debts, and It's OK to have needs, because the other guy has abilities.
ehh... that's kind of a stretch, but it did remind me that Cuba beat America and Dominica Republic in the baseball world classic nearly every time. The world classic is like the Fifa for baseball, but is dramatically less popular. It's also a joke how sad the national baseball team of China is. They literally lose to everyone by 20+ runs.
matthieuriolo Please tell me you don't genuinely believe that socialist governments kill their own athletes' families or actually punished them in any way as harsh as that for not winning sports competitions.
I was a kid at school when Monty Python started, and used to stay up to watch the show which was on about 11pm. It made every other comedy programme look tired and dull, and opened up wonderful new areas. It was so exciting, and the only drawback is that nothing I can think of since has lived up to the promise it made. Now the world is still a mess, and maybe I’m wrong but I think we have nothing like this now. Oh well....
Comedy relies on contrast, the more extreme the better, but political correctness slaps criticism of divergence down. At root, conformity and political extremism are at odds, so there is still plenty of scope.
@@JelMain political correctness slaps down divergence, not criticism of divergence. I don’t think MP was actually political on the whole, they laughed at everything in a completely anarchic way. People will politicize their comedy because they are like that. There’s trouble now because the pc left can’t tolerate dissent. I don’t remember much complaining about Python in the 60s.
I was probably around 10 years old when I was introduced to Monty Python. My uncle, who is about 5 years older than me introduced me to it. One of the first skits I saw was the Oscar Wilde “your majesty is like.” Although a lot of the more complex humor in that flew over my head it was still hilarious.
Trotsky was invited, but so was Stalin. so Stalin and Trotsky were fighting each other in the parking lot with baseball bats when they saw each other, and since neither showed up into the studio on time, the producers had to go on without Stalin and Trotsky
but the joke here is that the game show host doesn't know what he is talking about. saying the louge suite is non-materalistic is just using the term incorrectly in the context. I see this sketch as just a means to simplify the discourse and muddy the water on what any of the policy or philosophy of these people were. even more telling that its framed in an popular tv quiz game show where they talk about sports statistics... I'd laugh if more people understood what this skit was really about and what the joke is other then the stuff i'm seeing in the comments of "haha look at these leaders, wasn't socialism bad? haha"
I actually thought the “This non-materialistic lounge suite'' line was the weakest part of the sketch -it was just being too obvious and lighting up a neon sign and pointing excitedly at the joke for those too thick to get it. Still, I suppose part of being a good performer is knowing your audience...
I feel people that find that funny conflate communism with post modern theories of consumer criticism. Communists don't think that people buy too many things, and communists don't think people ought to share more and be less selfish. Communism is a critique of the mode of production that leads to amassment of wealth in the hands of few while excluding those wo toil to produce that wealth on the other. It is not a critique of consumption of goods.
Apparently, Coventry City has since won the English Football Cup once, in the 1986-1987 season. They beat Tottenham Hotspur 3-2 in the final, with striker Keith Houchen scoring a memorable diving header to level the score at 2-2. This was Coventry City's first major trophy in their history. (ChatGPT!)
Coventry was absolutely robbed in this year’s FA Cup semifinal against Man Utd by a stupid VAR reversal of their game winning goal. Will not be watching the final in protest.
@Oliver Formby Lenin was power hungry commie piece of shit , he was never good for Russia , after Lenin and his Bolshevik party did the coup , all hell broke out in Russia , a resistence against the Bolsheviks ( white army ) was assembled , the civil war between the Bolsheviks and White army caused the death of 9.5 million Russians , it would be best for Russia if Lenin's Bolshevik party never did their coup , so that the awful civil war could be avoided , people who support Lenin are not right in the head , he was an awful power hungry communist , he didn't care how many people his soldiers killed , he only cared about setting up his autoritharian communist state with himself as the dictator
@@dragoncrown2029 Just one correction. Civil War was inevitable after the Provisional Government's multiple failings in 1917. The reason Bolsheviks came to power in the first place is because there was a complete power vacuum in Petrograd. The leader at the time Kerensky had no legitimate authority beyond the walls of the Winter Palace, as the historian Orlando Figes liked to say. Some one was going to try and take the charge. It wasn't a matter of if, but when the civil war would occur. Lenin obviously had no reservations about all the horrors Russia would endure, viewing the civil war as the realisation of class struggle.
@@dragoncrown2029 The October Revolution was inevitable, Kerensky's government was unable to deliver to any of the promises they had made, they didn't retreat from ww1, they didn't improve the peasantry's conditions and if that wasn't enough they where about to allow the restoration of the tsar. The bolsheviks had much more popular support than the white guards and you can't deny by no means the huge improvement in life conditions after the civil war, huge increase in literacy rate, massive increase in life expectancy and incredibly quick industrilization. The fact that you think that some guy that was in exile can just snap his fingers and have himself an army capable of defeating the pro-tsarist counter-revolutionaries and make himself the dictator of the USSR is just not right. You should really research what you're talking about, or at the very least have the common sence to know that things don't work like that
This is hilarious! Che was Argentinian, though. The CIA was absolutely positive that he was Bolivian. It is said that when they finally got him, very near to his death, after they read everything they had on him and claimed him to be Bolivian, he laughed.
You can only kill a man, an idea lives on! Murderous CIA invaders will be remembered in 100 years as just that. Che will still be a legend, loved by the people!
@@bourbonbrigade1968 che is already remembered as a serial killer pretending to be a socialist lmao He put gay people in camps and tortured everyone he could get his hands on to death. Personally. He was a serial killer who could only get his rocks off to torturing someone to death.
I interpreted that as "leader of the bolivian guerrilla", which to me would make it incredibly funny since that's not what he's known for and also that's when he kicked the bucket
Nietzsche believed that a type of ball was only a means to get a few great balls, and then to achieve even greater balls, until you had the greatest balls of all. (but, for some reason, you then had to repeat the process over and over.)
The best part of the sketch is the subtext in it. It doesn’t matter if you want to help the working class, because football is much more important to the media and in short term also to the masses than their own well-being.
I can see that interpretation but I think now we have the opposite problem and everything is political. I just want to watch a basketball game but I have to hear a sermon about equity or whatever.
I think its more, you want to help them, yet 1. jobs come from the people you dont like as you just admitted. and 2. you have no idea what the proles enjoy - eg the football and so therefore have nothing in common with them.
The reason this sketch makes me laugh is not so much the politics, but because it reminds me of being in a similar position, in the old pub quizzes. The pub quiz was always a popular form of entertainment in the UK ... now there are not so many of them around. But I would sit with my team (at a table with pint of lager) waiting hopefully for a question I could answer (history, geography, zoology etc) which seldom came ! ... it was always football, cricket, tv soaps, or formula one racing ( ... which I know nothing about)! So ... Karl, Vladimir, Che, Mao ... join the club!
Right? Why is sports in there. It doesn't matter. It isn't relevant to anything in the real world. And they treat it like its equal to the other subjects. WTF is that even?
The importance of sports entertainment (and entertainment generally) must be continually impressed upon the masses. Even grown men are thrilled to wear clothing emblazoned with the name of their Sports Hero. They have been psychologically infantilized. Important to keep everyone distracted, amused, and most importantly, convinced that they ARE aware of current important events. Concentrate on the trivial, ignore reality. As the Western World is culturally and demographically decimated, the unwitting masses are well fed and immersed in frivolity.
it's complete crap now. SNL just hired someone, then fired him before his first appearance because the sjw outrage community went digging and found something insensitive he said years ago.
Eisenwulf666 I stopped watching by the time Ackroid, Newmann, Morris had left (of course Belushi and Radner has upped and died and Chase was gone). Started out on a high.
You know monty python are the best of all time when across generations they are still funny and the jokes are still relevant for different people to get, truly genius and pioneers of the comedy genre Especially in movies, everything they made has aged remarkably
Well, the comedy certainly aged well. Not so sure about having Terry Gilliam play a Chinese man and the occasional black face routine in Flying Circus.
what positive light bro? lol. Stalin sent millions of people to the gulag for basically nothing. Russians hated him in his time and definitely still despise him decades after his death.
@@theearthguy1814 Today? No. Since 1991? Also no. Since 1956, when Khruschev denounced Stalin? Also no. Under Stalin? Maybe, but they’d have to do more than just speak ill of him, and a very small percent of people went to prison (or labor camp) for political opposition. (Even 70% of the gulags were non-political inmates)
The fact that MT TUNG just comes in and answers a question is comedy at it's finest. You were under the illusion the entire thing was gonna be a staring match. Then BAM - GRAATE BALLS OF FIRE!
@@frenchfrysz6695 not true yet, we can still laugh don’t think like that. There’s so much pain and evil in this world and yet the progressive powers of the west wanna remove any slight chance to laugh
@@user-cs5ld9if2y no. Russia is nothing like the ussr. NATO has expanded into Ukraine and on Russias border. Russia is defending themselves from antagonizers.
When Monty Python started in the 60s my older brothers watched it and the show always had them laughing so hard . They loved it. Then us younger one's got to watch it with them it was hilarious we always looked forward to it when it came on. It still just as funny as it was back then. 🤣😂😅
Because things rarely ever change. Gotta wait for the complete downfall of Western-capitalist imperialism when there are 49 new countries in America and then check back for how humor has evolved. 😉
I find Marx looks more like Engels and only Lenin really looks like Lenin, only I think they gave him and Mao hats so they wouldn't have to use bald caps etc. The odd thing is that Mao would have been salvageable if they had given him Lenins costume , since the military uniform in Mao china was basically a blue-er version of the workers uniform. What ever they put him in here makes no sense. Makes you wonder if they changed the sketch last minute.
Andrew You can also describe him as having been a Cuban guerrilla commander. It's not wrong but it's not the most understandable use of the English language either. The nationality describes the organisation he had a role of leadership in ( Bolivian guerrilla), not Ché himself. Look at it this way , a US postal service worker with the Canadian nationality is both a 'US postal' worker ánd a Canadian postal worker employed by the US postal service.
Here's the real joke: "What English Premier League team is not owned by Russian oligarch after stealing the means of production from the Russian people?
I think you're confusing Marx and Trotsky. Marx died in London he's buried there. Trotsky was assassinated in Mexico city with an Ice pick by agents of Stalin.
@John LaFever . Like most people that never read the communist manifesto and then just repeat what other uninformed people said about it, your idea of communism is way off. There is nothing connecting communism to the atrocities committed by 'communist' dictators. I can come up with examples of capitalist countries ruled by dictators that are just as bad. Inform yourself please.
@John LaFever yeah sure, get mad, why not? Why exactly do you accuse me of having a ' reading comprehension problem'? So you have read the communist manifesto, or did you read about it? And btw, as far as my memory about the book goes, Marx never promised a 'sweet smelling paradise', instead he warned about economical issues, which for a large part came true. And suggested an alternative for capitalism ( which ,as im sure you know ,is just the next step after feudalism, introduced mostly after the french revolution, together with enlightenment). Instead, it's the capitalist creed that says ' you can become whatever you want as long as you work for it', which is not true for most people. Unless you're rich, you're just a puppet, working to make someone else rich. Or read about it here:en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surplus_value
00:18 Omg I spotted a mistake! Che Guevara was not Bolivian, he was killed there while leading a guerrilla, but he was Argentinian, and a Cuban citizen as well since he participated in the Cuban revolution! ^_^
When I was a kid I’d go visit my great grandparents and my great grandfather would always be watching Monty Python. I still watch this stuff because of those days. Good memories.
Would be interesting to know how Terry ranked himself, he was a keen Medieval historian, whether that was more important to him or monty python. One of Wale's finest.
Monty Python were the masters of the ridiculous sketch and this is no exception. But that throwaway line at the end made me laugh rather more loudly than I was expecting.
All I can think of is the sketch from FC where contestants had to summarize the works of Proust in 10 seconds or less... Something to the effect of "since we don't have a winner, first prize goes to the girl with the biggest tits!"
When I first went to University I can remember that LOADS of people had posters of Che Guevara on their walls ! This skit is so funny cos all the questions/ answers are to do with sport or music, none really to do with politics other than Karl Marx’s questions for the ‘ non materialistic’ lounge suite, but the answer is re Wolverhampton Wanderers ( don’t ask !! ) winning the English football cup !
Not many people get this. The point of the sketch is to show how out of touch these philosophers and political ideologues were with working class culture/ people - EXACTLY the people that they wrote at length about.My Dad is working class and he loooves football. He wouldn‘t know where to start with The Communist Manifesto.
@@MGSVxBreakpoint My dad was working class from Liverpool , though he became a graduate civil engineer and played rugby and never went to a football match on his life to my knowledge , though he’d deliberately wind me up by asking me how The Wolves ( W’ton Wanderers ) we’re doing . He however was VERY interested in politics and semantics and drove his MP bonkers with his letters to him, to Parliament, to Prince Philip and to the local paper !
@@christinescarff4920 yes, well, the working class can exhibit middle class behaviour. Doesnt change the fact that football is associated with working people - hence the sketch
@@MGSVxBreakpoint Yes, I know , but really when you look at the price of season tickets and new football strips for kids which change every season, it’s a wonder anyone ‘ working class ‘ can afford to support football teams ! AND , as a former senior Tax Inspector, I won’t start on about the corruption in the ownership of football clubs - oligarchs, Saudi princes - the list goes on !
Only the masses have to share, and they made share what little they are given. All the money stays at the top with the party leaders. Absolute power as they say....
@@dragons_red That absolute power stuff is a load of nonsense. Doesn't explain anything. There have been plenty of examples where absolute power has not corrupted and current examples today how partial (democratic) power has corrupted and the problem with partial power is it leaves anyone in it paralyzed to kick out any one who is corrupt. At least absolute power depends on the nature of the person themselves. I would take Marcus Aurelius over any of these Orwellian U.N bureaucrats anyday. Who voted them in anyway? Democracy sucks, but so does socialism and communism. Also fuck Hitler.
@Jake Williams For sure. But the state's will swing blue soon, then the only option will be for republicans to move futher left and shift the Overton window further and further left. You can already see it with gay and trans advocacy as well other policies that would of never been adopted 50 years ago
@@ReasonAboveEverything What do you mean "would", is this not a sketch today? Look into the comments, do you see anyone, a single person saying "uh thats yellow facing"? Youll probably find one eventually, but for very person who says that, there are thousands of people like you guys. Chill out, why be so speculative, they arent getting crucified, thats a fact, nothing to discuss here.
@blue heeler *makes fun of people's intelligence based on their hair colour *uses the preposition 'of' instead of the auxiliary verb 'have' because it sounds more or less the same classic
To me it was just the British accents and the British sense of morality that made them funny,they took being British and all its inane customs to task by a high level of hyperble which when done by real Brits was hilarious
@@jasonotto9126 doing an impression of idi amin in blackface is still bad regardless of the fact that it is idi amin. i really like monty python but i am simply pointing out that this specific impression was dicey chill white boy
@@andrewlenk2864 first I'm half Vietnamese mate. Second I'm not the one sympathetic to a murderous dictator... that's it. Just laugh at the skit and move on
I think you may have under thought the joke. The joke is quite plainly about socialist figure heads who state they are for the working people and all these questions where working class trivia questions and they didnt know them ( implying they dont represent the workers at all .
the joke is that too many people today seem to support political movements that were set up by the elites and ended up murdering hundreds of millions of people around the world over the last hundred years and yet people who support these movements close their eyes to this and do not learn from these historical mistakes.
@@soulfirez4270 I think it's a bit of both, the joke is about the panel of legendary comunist figures which makes you think it's a cultural discussion when in fact is just a quiz show, the underlying joke is what you said
The attention to detail is the best part of this skit, Great Balls of Fire came out in 1957, when Mao was still alive, so it is entirely possible he actually knew the answer.
Since this was filmed in 1982 it wasn't exactly ancient history back then (25 years earlier). Today's question might include a question about Michael Jackson's "Bad" which came out in 1987 or 35 years ago (ok now I feel old).
