I don't know how much you guys enjoy doing these reviews compared to your vlogging content (I'm guessing reviews take more prep work), but these reviews and boat comparisons are excellent. Even if some manufacturers might not appreciate your candidness at times, it's what a review should be!
We try and be fair. But yes, once or twice we really haven’t liked what we’ve seen and we’re not afraid to say so, even if it means getting a lot of grief from the manufacturer in question. Which has happened.
I really hope you get a Chance to See the Sirius 310Ds, Sirius 35 Ds and the Sirius 40 Ds with twin keels. I would really like to See your opinión on each one of These
I don't think a CG version of the Sirius exist. They would have to review the actual boat and therefore it won't happen. The sirius is about twice the price it should be however, they are serious sailboats unlike this Moody.
Thank you for the walk through. I really like it in many ways. First I thought there was too little freezer space, but I reckon one could easily fit an extra freezer in the storage space. My deal breaker is the draft. Moody need to come up with a shallower draft version, 195 or whatever it was is not shallow draft. Perhaps twin keels?
Possibly. They're trying to fit a lot into that deck saloon area, so you'd expect a small galley. The larger models would presumably have bigger and better galley areas.
Thank you for the great and knowledgable tour of the beautiful moody - its bee a pleasure as always to watch your videos. If you ever get the chance you should check out the Sirius 40 DS which is also an incredibly beautiful and practical boat built in Germany. Cheers and have a great week
The computerized throttle and steering is one of the most incredible advances in the marine industry. No clunky wheel at the nav station or separate shifter throttle nonsense. Set your sail set your course and your off. Now you can look forward to your time standing watch😁
I really rate these, I don't know how commercially successful they've been though, possibly too big a change from what Moody stood for prior to the Hanse buyout. Personally the biggest compromise for me in terms of open ocean sailing is the exposed aft cockpit arrangement together with the large glass saloon doors, they look susceptible to breaking seas if running downwind. But, as you point out, huge storage, great engine access so ticks a lot of boxes for comfortable long distance passage making. They deserve to sell well.
I have always thought that the deck saloon style yacht is a very niche market. The DS offers a lot of unique advantages over a standard design yacht and a few negatives, as a place to live the DS is probably a nicer place to be.
Yep, our thoughts exactly. Very niche but suits some people extremely well. Definitely a great living space and really nice to be able to do watch keeping from inside as well
A place to live and travel in all conditions in Safety and comfort ...the few who wont like it are the racers and the traditionalists...and the futurists. Materials and propulsion being the issues there. But why worry when theres more than enough boats out there for them. High freeboards mean dryer decks in choppy waters and at angles of lean.
While you both are over there waiting I would have thought you would look at the Mumby catamaran manufacturing firm.If I buy a cat I will look to purchase a Mumby,I’ve heard only good things about them. Flexi teak is a nightmare after two years with the adhesive lifting,looks great but the adhesive lets it down. Love watching you both,please stay safe and safe sailing,Dirk.Australia.
I really like it. I think the 41 is too small. The 45 has 3 cabins which makes a difference. If I were to commission a new boat for circumnavigation it would be the 54 DS. I would see if they can strip the weight out of it, and look at having it designed with DSS foils to up performance, decrease listing and increase stability.
Sirius is like a Swiss knife . Very well built and with a lot very clever features. Hope you will do a review about the 35 or the 40 and compare it with your former boat
I don't understand this video. Normally your videos are great but 80% of this video is B-roll footage. Almost no overview shots. Luckily I had seen other videos of this boat before, but for others, this video must have been frustrating to watch.
I appreciate that you reviewed this boat a year ago, but I think it's far too much of a compromise. Your thoughts are spot-on regarding the design - small saloon, small galley, high freeboards, tall mast, deep draught, toilet inside the shower. I think there are much better option in the market. Good honest review nonetheless.
Another great review and very pleased you like the boat. You listed almost all the reasons that have made us order a DS41 for delivery next year in which to initially explore the south and east coasts of England and then Brittany - the one you missed is the less gung-ho spouse who feels secure with the high bulwarks and stainless steel rails and for whom the ability to sit inside out of the cold/rain but still have full visibility and be connected with the helm is a major attraction. Another attraction is the lowering table in the saloon to create another double berth and the separate guest/day heads and shower to port, opposite the guest cabin. We do agree about the windage and have opted for stern thruster as well as bow thruster!
I do like this yacht very much. A yacht even I ( I wee bit older than 60 years) can manage alone! Would I sail with bad weather....? I don't think so, and even then when maneuvering in a marina is needed you alway can use the bow and stern thruster......
Good review of an Interesting boat, in a size and design I'm interested in getting. Ni e review. Immediate issues for me, are I, y 2 Cabins below, not 3. Much space is wasted, and given the deck Saloon and Cockpit area are the living areas for the longest part of the day, comfortable rushing out berths for 6, could have been easily accommodated imho. For Offshore use, there are nowhere near enough secure handholds or bracing areas in the Deck Saloon, or at the galley. I am not a fan of 2 wheel cockpits unless racing, there is a workable and very reliable tilting single wheel option available, which can be used centre of Cockpit, Port Side, or starboard side. While Vinylester Lamination is a large positive, for me, a large negative is Balsa Coring - closed Cell Structural Foam please. Common to deck Saloon large window areas, is the potential overheating problem when it is hot and sunny, making air conditioning pretty much essential unless large amounts of fresh air throughput is possible. The Cockpit top cover is nice. That it is not a Racing machine, can be assisted for performance with a Cutter Rig, and two Furling foresails, plus a furling Gennaker. In mast Furling can be very reliable if battens are ditched in favour of a Triradial Dacron loose footed Main, giving a long service life, only perhaps only exceeded by a Hydra-Net material one? I'd have Self Tacking Jib and Genoa Tri Radial Dacron as well personally, and plan to (test how well they perform, and for how long, before maybe switching to Hydra- Net later). Much as I love Yanmar Narine Diesels, I am not at all a fan of their Saildrive offerings unless much has changed with them recently. So Volvo D2- 55 for me (Cam driven diesel injection gets a 👍) . It would be nice to know just what the House Bank Battery Storage options are, and how many banks are possible. Right now, my number one hoice for a Deck Saloon Sailboat, appears excessively restricted in this regard, with 9nly 1 Bank of 3x 100 ah batteries, unless customisable to much better, which bluntly, is severely inadequate. However, the Moody 41 DS has made it to 2nd on my list for consideration, with number 1 going to the Sirius 40 DS Twin Keel (the ability to dry out, facilitates easy anode inspection and replacement, de sliming the antifouling, and a thorough inspection of the Saildrive paint protection, with the ability to touch it up between tides, plus also pre re antifouling Checks, and inspection of through hulls. Closer to the time of placing an order, I'll see what customisation options are available with the Noody, but I suspect no Twin Keel drying out capability will scupper it for me. It's not just in British Waters, that the ability to dry out, is so useful, as to be almost indispensable imho. A bilge Keel Macwester 26 had that ability, and I still miss it tbh. Thanks again for the look see, I subscribed as a result. Best Wishes. Bob. 👍
I love this boat, I looked at the video on this boat videos before, your review was excellent. I wonder if they could offer an upgrade in hardware because after a few year the cheap kind goes to crap.
Good review. Interesting boat because new boats are trying to keep more level while sailing. Would a sea trial confirm your pendulum theory I wonder, or have they designed a level-sailing vessel around a raised deck salon "penalty"? I really like to see a good tour of the new Moody 54 as well.
Playing catch up here, I had been unsubscribed. I thought maybe you guys took a well deserved break until a friend asked me what I thought of your latest video and I hadn't got it. Crisis over, Disaster avoided, Ruby Rose Reinstated on my favourites list. Stay Safe & Fair Winds !!
You were unsubscribed by YT?! Not the first time I’ve heard this. What the heck?! Glad to have you back! Lots of boat reviews and boat building stuff at the moment, perfect for nerding out, and later in the year there will be more sailing/lifestyle videos. Enjoy!
Nick, great review as always… I’m hoping you can answer a question for us… Why do people (and you) refer to these boats as “good boats for higher / lower latitudes?” It’s still a foam cored fibreglass boat is it not?? What makes this more suitable than a catamaran and (for the same price and size) why would someone prefer this moody over a seawind 1260 with a heater?
More to come! We're actually working on ways to include boat tours and reviews on our channel more consistently, so definitely grateful for this feedback 😊
Spotted the 54ds at a boat show when they came out. As a boater out of the Pacific NW, the design immediately spoke to me. The internal helm for navigating in comfort when the water is not is fabulous. I think my only gripe is that the salon is not very large in these designs. The dinette is the only available seating space.
They do a galley down version where the lower galley replaces the stbd cabin midhsips, and a second lounging area replaces the upper galley space, which obvs increases seating options in the saloon. The lower galley is open to the upper saloon so not cut off. It's the layout I'd have.
I really like the boat. It is very trawler/motorsailor like but the draft is too deep for that type of cruising. Maybe a centerboard or dagger board would be a good addition to really make this boat even more versatile. I can imagine being in a snug back country anchorage in this boat with wonderful views.
the Sirius 35 DS could fit the bill for the ICW ? Marie Scneider commented on it with her test sail . search the model on RU-vid, and you'll find d it . Pretty nice 2 cabin layout too. Only problem at the moment is, Construction slots appear fully booked until 2027 ish. which is really bad news for me (top of my list is a 40DS twin Keel 3 cabin 6 berth). I like the handholds everywhere needed, plus the ability to wedge in at the in line gally - otherwise I prefer U Shaped galleys. All the best. Bob. 👍
I had a good around one of these last year and I certainly agree there's much to like. However, for me there's a total deal-breaker. When I stood behind the wheels in the helming position I was shocked by the close proximity of the hard trailing edges of the roof to my face. This might be no issue if you always sail in calm seas, but in lumpy conditions it would be like driving a car with a spike sticking out the center of the wheel....
The DS41 has an amazing deck with great bulwarks & rails. However the galley seems small and lacking bracing points compared to the similarly designed Sirius DS40 which has a linear galley down. After seeing the Seawind this leaves one dreaming of wide open spaces….and thinking about whether it’s worth twice the cost. LoL
Ah okay, yes I depend it totally depends on where you plan to take it. Bahamas would be out, for sure. I think this boat is well suited to higher lats such as the Baltic.
The protected nav station can't be beat. However I think this boat is suited for 1-maybe 3 day river or at best coastal sails.. Although the boat has a large amount of storage, the inside room is to cramped for me, especially the kitchen.
You covered very important points for me. The mast is too high i could not easily escape a hurricane to the intercoastal channel. And the draft is much too deep for using the boat where i live or in the Bahamas. Five foot draft is barely tolerable where i live. I like the boat but it's not practical for me.
It will cause issues in and around the The Uk and W Europes shallow water spots like rivers and bays with big tidal ranges... 🤔Either develope a folding keel version or do it properly and do a modern bilge keel monohull with a reduced draft.
It would be nice to have your opinion on some of the French Aluminium boats : Alubat, Allures, Garcia or Boreal. And if you like fancier boats ; Wauquiez and Amel.
Yeah, a lift or swing keel would be such a great addition to this boat. It’s a very expensive feature though, both in the engineering/design and the construction and materials, so that’s usually why it’s not more widely offered.
A very attractive looking boat. I like the way the cockpit runs into the saloon. Not as good in that regard as RR2 of course! And only half the engine power.
Did I somehow miss the Galley or does it not have one? Nice boat but I think it would struggle cruising most places around Australia with it deep draft. Thanks Nick.
Nautistyles did a review of the 62DS a week ago and now you're reviewing it's little sister. It looks like a quite capable boat for a sailing couple that wants a live-aboard. How would it compare to another production/semi-custom boat like a Beneteau? Speaking of which, my cousins 27' Beneteau had a draft of over 4', doesn't make the 6'+ on this boat seem like all that much! I've always thought the self-tacking jibs was more for convenience than for any sort of performance, if you're on a night passage and really don't want to mess with the lines too much when you have to tack for example.
The draft is only an issue if you’re planning to cruise somewhere like the Bahamas, otherwise it shouldn’t be a major problem (although yes, sometimes inconvenient). A self tacking jib is also very easy to sail especially for short handed crew, yes, but another benefit is that you’ll get a better sheeting angle when sailing to windward compared to an overlapping Genoa.
Huge plus with the 45, is the 3rd Cabin. No excuse really, imho, for the 41 not having the option of a 3 cabin layout. After all the living space is really one deck up, and Cabins are just for crashing out comfortably - as an aside, every memory foam option I've tried Sucks badly for me, though others do seem to like them.
We’re going to continue with the monohull reviews for the next few weeks. Our Patrons will continue to get regular build updates during that time and our RU-vid audience will get those RR2 build videos in June. 😊
This boat is a great compromise to monohull vs cat. The draft is what makes it less appealing. Great assessment and design for northern climates though!
Susan & Tony here, great critique of this 41. The draft and height is a bit restrictive. I think it is vary pretty. Looks like a great boat for the Great Lakes. Those windows are fantastic , Susan will want blinds for sure.
Big chunky boat a bit like a modern take on trawlers, not going anywhere particularly fast but strong and dependable. Perfomance in light winds would be pretty terrible i'd imagine.
Beware of the quality of this boat. I know an owner that got the same brand new boat 10 years ago. At least 7 systems did not work at all at delivery. He could not use the boat for a few months until the dealer corrected the issues of concern. Maybe talking to several owners would help in clarifying the building quality concerns.
This is a beautiful boat. I'd really love to see what you guys think of the Sirius DS boats. I feel like they have a lot of similarities with the Moody DS, but can't find many independent reviews. Most of what I've found on youtube is from the owner.
I love the work you folks put into these videos, but this one felt... different. Close up shots look great, but this video was a little too "professional" for my taste, if that makes sense. I enjoyed watching both of you crawl over boats at the boat shows, joking around, crawing inside everything, inspecting joinery, etc; previous videos felt more light hearted. I also enjoyed watching both of your "thoughts on the day" and critiques in real time. I always felt I could insert myself into the situation and see myself on whatever boat you were looking at but I didn't experience that with this one. This felt like a paid advertisement. I'm only one person though, so maybe I'm way off here and let's be honest, I'll still watch everything you two put out haha.
Hey John, thanks for the feedback! These reviews are a little different because Nick had to film them by himself, as I was unable to be with him. Because of the time pressure of getting everything filmed in that short space of time before the show opens, and the fact he was doing it solo, it was necessary to use a slightly different filming style. We’ll learn from this because we also prefer to have both of us involved in the boat reviews both in terms of the filming/editing/production and also having both perspectives. Giving our thoughts and reaction in real time as we walk through the boat is also really valuable, we agree. We’ll continue to film and publish boat tours/reviews and will do things a little differently for the next series. But yes, this particular series has a different style and Nick did an awesome job doing it all solo 😊
Agreed, felt like this was shot with a 60 mm lens, everything was a close-up, which made it really claustrophobic and hard to get a sense of the larger boat from your normally wider angles.
@@mpi5850 I agree, I didn't like the close up shots of almost everything, instead of a more wide angle type lens. I found it very difficult to watch because of this.
A chubby stubby that sails upwind as well as a catamaran, heels like a monohull, draft of 10’ longer boat, and has so much windage that it needs a bow thruster to dock? No thanks :)
You dont have to use the thruster just its sometimes easier in crowded spaces or where theres strong currents . Its the same with most traditional cruising ...live- aboards ..by the time they are equipped to live off grid or make serious passages they have to have a load of stuff added on top, on deck and usually at the back via an arch and a substantial Bimini. And likely to get ripped off in squalls as well as flooding down below through the open hatch. Theres also those who would find accessing down multiple steps difficult. especially at sea.
As a non sailor looking on, I really like this boat. The deck saloon and nav station are incredible with the panoramic views. If money wasn’t an issue, I would certainly be looking at this boat.
Not a good design in term of marine behaviours : to compensate lots of weight high above the water, they added even more weight deep under. Total 14t for a 40footer mono hull EMPTY. Imagine when you fill all these lockers... Of course not a performance boat, I bet one of the LEAST performing boat of this class.
I have something to say ! You come from London, as such I am nearby, I want you to reprosent the best for our nation, to get to the point, you are just comming over as a sailsman, no pun intended, I am subdcribed, not a patreon, for I have nothing to give away, however I do wish you the best of and hope your content moves on, Sales Sales Rush Rush, I guess you may not appreciate my comment, I care though, that should be worth something.
We’re definitely not trying to sell this boat- we have nothing to do with Moody or it’s owners- and we will always be objective. This is genuinely an interesting boat that we liked very much. We’ve done plenty of reviews and if we don’t like something, we say it. However, we also are mindful with our criticisms, because we’ve learned through experience that if we express dislike for a boat or product, that can have a serious negative impact on the public perception of that vessel and at the end of the day we’re not here to put any manufacturer out of business or cause problems for them. But you’ll see in next weeks review (which is already edited and uploaded) that we aren’t afraid to call out issues we see. Hope that all makes sense and thanks for being a subscriber 🙏
@@sailingrubyrose Strongly taken in, I will continue to follow your quest and hope you where not offended by my comment, I look forward to your next cast, thank you for responding, it makes a difference.
You’ll have to take that up with RU-vid! Our Patrons get our videos ad-free but when the video is put live, it’s monetised. Sorry for the inconvenience.
