Moog's Minimoog Model D New Release - I Am Sooooooo Disappointed 😢 

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Moog should keep the Minimoog in production PERMANENTLY.

Moog has been innovating and I don't see the Minimoog re-release as a hinderance to that. The only thing wrong with the re-release is the price. I'm not a fan of limited run over priced collector's items, but many demand that from Moog. If Moog released the Minimoog with less expensive assembly methods like surface mount components, while adding a few extra features (e.g. like the Poly D), that would be considered blasphemy by the purists. Moog learned that the hard way when they created the Voyager series over 15 years ago. The purists wanted purity, and the Voyager didn't deliver. Moog tried to innovate and it almost put them out of business. In recent years, Moog has been able to innovate again. The Grandmother, Matriarch, and the semi-modular stuff have been very compelling. The Moog One is absolutely innovative, though sadly very expensive. They released several software products that are quite good, but not losing the point like Roland has by going entirely software based. Most of all, Moog have already created the new standard for a mono synth work horse, the Subsequent 37. Look at how many you see on stage used by working gigging musicians - not old or re-released Minimoogs (or even Behringer Poly D's), but Sub/Subsequent 37's. The only other mono-synth I see with great regularity on stage is the Novation Bass Station II (usually by more budget minded musicians). Many may disagree about liking the Matriarch/Grandmother, or Subsequent 37. If you feel that way, you may be a purist, and that is fine. For the rest of us, stuff like the Behringer Poly D is great, and the other Moog synths, though not Minimoogs, are still very nice synths. So was the Voyager series. Moog is trying to satisfying the purists (right down to the hand assembly of through hold parts on a Minimoog) as well as trying to be unique making the other products. The Minimoog has been remade by a dozen other companies, so Moog is selling the one thing the other companies can't sell - their name. I'm not defending the price, just saying the synth world is precarious, and a misstep could put Moog out of business (again) very easily. Missed opportunity by not selling a cheaper version, or raking it in selling the collector's item? Which is better, probably only Moog knows. BTW, I'm not immune to buying the collector's items. I bought a Korg MS-20 FS (the more expensive full size version) and the Korg miniKorg 700FS re-release which is approaching stupid money for the features (but it is actually a very cool synth). If Moog had released the Minimoog for the $2K range, I would have ordered one without a second thought. That is probably most people's disappointment. We all have our threshold of pain, and $5K is way above the threshold for most of us, even if we have the money. It just isn't justifiable, and Ian made that point very well in his video. Thanks Ian. I always enjoy your perspectives.

If they would lower the price of the new minimoog then I think I would jump at it,but looking at the Trigon’s price and totally new components would be a determining factor in my next purchase.

I never understand how people can review an instrument they don't own or haven't tried to play in person.

I have an OG 1974 Model D. It's the one piece I will never let go of. I also have a Moog Source, Sub 37, DFAM and MFAM. The sub 37 is my favourite mono (as well as the Dave Smith MEK) but honestly the Minimoog just has a certain mojo I just couldn't live without. I get why folks still want one, My question I guess is why do people get so bent out of shape about this stuff. If you don't like it, spend your money elsewhere.

36 years ago I was going through a bad divorce, and a friend phoned me and asked me if I wanted to buy his MiniMoog. I was at his home 60 miles away before he'd finished saying oog!! I bought it cash (I'd searched every bank account everywhere to get the money together.) £300. Yes, £300 English sterling. I still have it now, parked next to my modified MicroMoog. Apparently my Mini has been estimated at a value of £10k. But I cannot bear to part with it. It's one of my children. It really is a true love affair with my two Moogs.

Moog is working on a new mid tier synth that uses some of the software developed for the Moog One, as well as other products using the software. Something in between the Sub and One lines. They hinted at this during one of the JUCE conferences.

Come on man! If you want these treasures to be made, don’t bitch about them making a profit! You are actually getting a deal considering inflation: $1,500 in 1970 is equivalent in purchasing power to about $11,521.08 today, an increase of $10,021.08 over 52 years. The dollar had an average inflation rate of 4.00% per year between 1970 and today, producing a cumulative price increase of 668.07%. This means that today's prices are 7.68 times higher than average prices since 1970, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics consumer price index. A dollar today only buys 13.020% of what it could buy back then.

Proud owner here of a Voyager 50th anniversary I bought in 2005, one of the last 25 to be made (out of 100) that has Robert Moog's hand signing in that silver felt tip pen! 🙂

I agree with his point, that is separate from the reality that we want vintage issues because quite frankly a lot of the last few decades has sucked ass sonically. As to his point, the last innovative pieces I remember we’re mid to late 80s VS and late rev Yamaha FM like SY 77. Because of the way music history has played out, that hasn’t happened yet; would love to see quality sounds begin to be made in innovative new tech, which was what synthesis was about at the beginning in my opinion

Voyager history which spanned 2002 to 2015 is interesting. Moog said himself this was the pinnacle of the Model D. It was what he always wanted the Model D to be. Voyager goes way beyond Model D and onto a higher level. They are rare now and not in production anymore. I have got one and it sounds incredible. Maybe something like a super advanced Voyager and polyphonic might have been interesting. With wave folding and extra (new) oscillator features, advanced effects, inbuilt modular patching, etc..

I am fortunate to have been active in the music world when the mini Moog was released along with all the other "classic" synths. Whilst back then these machines were groundbreaking and unique in their own ways, today they are really just sonically limited dinosaurs. Today's synths and VSTs totally over shadow them. Even Moog's unique 24db diode ladder low pass filter which produced the signature sound is easily replicated in software. In my opinion the status placed on these classic synths is not to be ignored but their role in today's music production is quite limited. Yes the mini Moog produced some fantastic sounds and especially in leads but rather than reproduce old relics , isn't it more fun to create something new and unique? 😀

Great video. This is why I love my UDO Super 6. Inspired by early synths, but highly innovative and exciting. I've already got plenty of ways to get great Model D (and other classic synth) sounds without spending upwards of $10,000AUD

Voyager is a masterpiece, I also agree that it would have been a most excellent re-release if there ever was one. Still not to late for a Voyager 2 to happen some day!

I can understand the disappointment, but I am also glad to see it come back as it is. I was always bothered by how the synth industry never kept iconic models in production. Imagine if Fender had discontinued the Stratocaster and replaced it with the Maverick, then replaced the Maverick with the Performer. Or if Gibson had discontinued the Les Paul and replaced it with the Marauder, then replaced the Marauder with the Victory. I admire that they kept the Strat & Les Paul going all these years, with some small, but not vast, changes. I'm glad to see that Moog is bringing back the Model D and keeping it close to the classic design. However, it would also be nice if they could ever introduce a Model E. Of course, there will always be people who prefer the cheaper clones, just as there are guitar players who prefer to buy cheaper clones of the Strat or the Les Paul, but I think it's great to have the option to buy the real thing in a new form, not just a vintage instrument that probably needs serious servicing.

Hey great video Ian! I love the Minimoog, it's one of my favorite synths ever made (design and sound wise). But I honestly feel that the price of the reissue is unfeasible for most musicians. The 2016 reissue was a pretty strange scenario with Moog randomly stopping its production. The Behringer Model D sounds awesome at a fantastic price point. And if you want a keyboard for the Behringer Model D just like the original Minimoog you can buy the Behringer Poly D. I think this will be a short run similar to the 2016 reissue. Moog makes some great gear but their pricing is pretty steep in my opinion. And yes I think a reissue of the Moog Voyager would have been better haha 😄👍

Synthesizers as a whole are maturing ...similar to other instruments, say sax, violin or even piano...when technology of an instrument settles, whether it be mechanical (most classical instruments)or electrical (analog synth)... innovation slows down and focus would be on things like quality, tradition, prestige and etc. ..I would say the minimoog has reached that stage where the sound and the features are so iconic that it no longer needs to innovate to keep it relevant..same as a violin by a famous violin maker..

I fully agree. Each time I think we reached peak sameness another re-release, clone or look-alike comes out and makes me sigh 😔

Voyager Reissue would have been monumental. Nothing wrong with a reissue, makes them accessible to new consumers and it's already tried and true. I mean, look at guitars.. they don't worry too much about innovating. Just keep em coming.

There is something enduring about the Minimoog in its original format. Yes, it’s limited and Moog has kept it this way, which is a bit disappointing. But, playing and owning one in person, there is no other synth like it. The sound is unmatched compared to all other monosynths I’ve tried, and I’ve played and owned a LOT. Yes, the Behringer Model D pretty much nails the sound, but in that format I’ve found it to be so uninspiring. I’m not trying to justify my ownership one, because in fact I sold my 2016 reissue because I said to myself, “the Behringer Model D will suffice”. Boy was I wrong. I played the Moog every single day, the Behringer, never. There’s a reason why there’s still a market for a real Minimoog, in its original format, exorbitant price and all. Moog knows what they’re doing.

No one looking for a real Model D is looking at Behringer knockoffs. This is priced far under what any used Model D is selling for. They'll sell them all and then they'll be worth 9k like the rest of them.

Work, save, buy it and play it. Instead of inventing excuses. No buck, no Buck Rogers. Simple as that.

Have you not heard of the Moog One???

Appreciate your views Ian, however - where does the Moog One fit in to this critique? It seems like you've overlooked it. Brand new synth, radically new architecture, outrageous modulation matrix, wildly complex oscillators, both classic and state-variable filters, phenomenal quality and seemingly only complained about by people who do not, or cannot, own them. Probably the biggest leap Moog made since the Memorymoog, and while it physically has similarities they're totally different synths. You can't release a Moog One every year - so yes, a reissue of the D makes sense as there is demand regardless of the Behringer clone, second hand prices from reissues being twice what they originally retailed for are a good indicator of that. In my view, it seems the reality is we live in a staggering time for new analog synthesisers, people just complain about the price and move on. Really what they're angry with is central bankers, as when you adjust for inflation the price of something like the Moog One is actually cheaper than the Memorymoog when it came out. I appreciate we live in a time where ingenuity appears to be stagnating but I believe you're off on this one. The Model D as an unimaginative reissue on its own, well, I agree with you there - but the broader picture seems like you make be teetering a little too far on the side of catastrophising. Again, good on you for putting your views out there, but it 'aint so bad! Just think of the Model D as a collectable, which it no doubt will be when they cease production and they double in price again.

This is what people are buying, can’t blame them for selling them

Mate I regret not buying the 2016 reissue for 2600US on clearance at my music store

The Moog Subharmonicon was a great attempt at offering a classic subtractive synth with an innovative twist, a shame they didn’t continue in that direction. The Grandmother was great - affordable, with a high quality ‘board and components and some modern MIDI / CV connectivity. I also have an Elektron Analog Four which for the same price as the Grandmother offers 4 times as many voices and loads of modulation options, but it just doesn’t have the richness and ‘signature feel’ of the Moog. Both synths are great for what they do, and I rarely go back to my DAW, despite the functionality, I prefer real knobs and sliders and a tactile approach. I agree with Ian about the Model D though - I was intrigued until I saw the price (!!) and the very limited features. This looks more like a museum piece than a musician’s tool, but we sadly live in an age where C64 chiptunes are venerated and the marvels of the 20th century are much worthier of investigation than the creative desert of the 21st.

If I buy a new Les Paul, I don't expect it to do any different than an old Les Paul. why should it be any different with a mini moog?

I fear Moog is going to over price there self into extinction. I myself have coveted the model d. But will keep my Behringer clone.

I bought my reissue D a few years ago for $3000. I know 2 people who bought 5 for $15,000. Then sold 4 of them for $5,000 each. Now a new reissue costs 5 grand. Gonna undercut used ones now.....

Not every synth on the market today is a reissue of a classic. Moog already did release some very innovative synthesizers in recent years, like the Moog One and the Matriarch. Also, look at Arturia with their Matrixbrute and Polybrute. Those synths are very innovative and unique. As gar as the Minimoog Model D, I'm really glad they brought it back and hope to be able to afford one someday soon, even if it means selling some other gear I already own. Of course, I do want to get the chance to actually demo one first. I missed the boat on the 2016-2017 reissue because I couldn't afford it at the time and was disappointed afterwards when I saw it was discontinued and the secondhand prices skyrocketed with the reissue actually costing more than the vintage model......CRAZY!!!! Anyway, I got the Behringer Poly D, which does kinda sound like a Minimoog but has a few design differences regarding the tone (such as the oscillator gain staging and the overall output volume) that I don't like. However, I do like the analog Juno-style stereo chorus Behringer decided to implement. The Behringer Model D probably does sound closer to an actual Minimoog. However, I don't like it's form-factor which is why I chose the Poly D instead. With all of that said, all the Poly D did was may me want an actual Moog Minimoog Model D more. I actually dreamed of playing one in a a room by myself as if I owned it a short while back in my sleep before this reissue. Wow!!!!! So I'm definitely glad it's back and hope to be able to try one out soon.

The Model D re-issue feels like a financial decision by the company and a way to compete with the used Model D market. Old Model D's go for 10k and up, and Moog isn't seeing that cash..sooo they made a brand new one with a few new features and charged 5k for it. It's a smart decision to lure people away from buying crazy overpriced Model D's on Reverb or wherever, and instead buying directly from Moog. If they tried to innovate the Model D too much people wouldn't want it. It's a legacy instrument that appeals to people who want that "authentic" experience.

So you're disappointed that Fender still produces the Stratocaster? :(

I think the analog synth market is moving towards a model more similar to the guitar world. Which is continues re-releases of old models with only very slight tweaks. The reason is simple, people are still lusting after those classic synths that they couldn't buy back in the day and which are still super expensive on the used market. No new model that Moog has released has been as popular as their Model D. So just to stay in business they have to re-release it over time with a limited production to keep up the price and interest in it.

While I appreciate that the Model D is back in production... If I had $5K to spend on a Minimoog, I would try to find a used Voyager in mint condition.

I'm going to go out on a limb here, and suggest this is going to be an epic fail on Moog's part. The price is absurd. You can buy a new Prophet 5, full analog polyphonic replica of the original for $3599.00. Or a re-issue of the Oberheim OBX8 for the same price of $5000.00. The market will be professional studios and touring bands, the vast consumer market has been oversaturated with overpriced reissues that no one can afford. And us ordinary Joes will be left on the outside, looking through the shop window and only dream of having this beauty. My days of having affordable income to buy expensive gear have long passed, even if I was still working, this would be an impossible sale job to my wife, and she usually gives in to my pleas and musician "gotta have it" tears. lol I'm afraid, the new MOOG company is quickly positioning itself as an elitist company, and most likely consider themselves the BMW of the electronic musical instruments world. Love your comments and thoughts, right on the money my friend.

It would have been cool if they had at least added osc sync or a paraphonic mode or the HP filter type of the Model D Boog. It’s also more expensive than the 2016 Reissue which I have and love. I encourage you to check out the ASM Hydrasynth, the PolyBrute and the MicroFreak if you are looking for something new and innovative.

I guess everyone instead of whining and complaining could always go create some killer music with what you have. I'm a guitar player and slowly saving for a Minimoog. Hopefully there around for a while. In the meantime I'll make up so more shit!😂

They have been innovative. I like that they went back to the basics.

Analog subtractive hardware synthesizers are like luxury mechanical watches at this point. You don't buy them because they do what they do better than the newer, cheaper alternatives. You buy them to make a statement about yourself. Anyone who just wants the MiniMoog sound will buy one of the excellent VSTs instead (or a Behrenger Model-D, which is almost as cheap). I only buy hardware if it does something unique that my VSTs don't do. I have a SynClavier Regn on pre-order and a Waldorf Quantum. I wouldn't buy a new MiniMoog or even an OB-X8 because they just duplicate sounds that I already have in abundance.

One thing which I probably haven’t properly researched is if Moog Music has *ever* created something more in keeping with the 2600, something like a performance synth with an optional modular patchbay. It seems to me that the closest they’ve come to that is the Voyager XL. If they had to bring something back instead of creating a brand new module, why not bring back the Voyager XL?

Sorry Ian. My reference to the Voyager having no bass was to another reply to my original post. (MJ Knight) I don't agree with him at all that the Voyager has poor bass response. It is one of the if not the most powerful sounding thing currently in my studio setup.

Waldorf re did the PPG as the M and the Quantum/Iridium are not lacking in character or options.

Hi Ian. As a big Moog fan, I totally agree. I realize that this Minimoog reissue is probably a financial slam dunk for a company that is struggling with inflation and labor issues, but something new would have been more inspiring. It's odd that Sequential is finally giving us the 6-voice ladder filter synth that Moog probably should have released 4 years ago instead of the polarizing One. Even desktop versions of the Grandmother and Matriarch would have been cool. Maybe an effects unit in the form factor of the M32/DFAM/SubH. But I think average consumers underestimate the margins on big ticket reissues like the Model D, Model 10, etc.

I came close to buying a Moog Sirin, because it fixed one of the things that put me off buying the Minitaur - the limited octave range. Then, of course, they discontinued it, pushing the second hand price up too. I recently bought a Behringer Toro - down a couple of rungs from a Minitaur but I like it, and I think it's good for what it is. I like that there are no shift functions, like on the Minitaur, just some basic controls.

The Minimoog Model D has always been Moog's most successful synthesizer and overall the most iconic synthesizer in existence. This is also the reason why it's been copied several times without fully achieving its sonic capabilities. There are still sounds that only the original can produce (which is not to say that you can't be fooled by a copy). In fact, if it were my choice, the Model D should always remain a standard in Moog's product line. Its concept has stood the test of time, which is a great achievement and therefore a lasting value. That's why demand never stops. The workmanship and the additional features, which at the time could often only be achieved through modifications, make the reissue overall even a better instrument than any vintage Model D. My only criticism of the current reissue, however, is the significantly higher price compared to the first one, which I also own. This is both unnecessary and unfavorable in the long run.

When the Minimoog was released in 1970, it cost $1,595. Equivalent in purchasing power to about $8,835 today in 2022. $5,000 is a deal on the number 1 synth that Moog fans want. They will sell plenty of them. Moog has already tried to release replacements for the Minimoog over the years, with loads of features the Model D doesn't even come close to having. There is a demand in the market for vintage synths and manufacturers would be foolish to ignore it.

Listening to your remarks, it seems you’ve completely forgotten about the grand beast of a synth that is the Moog One. Checks all the boxes you seem to be after, with the exception of course of its weighty price tag. Seems to me you’ve just taken a very cynical view of an iconic brand with no regard that at the end of the day, they need to be a profitable business to be able to continue to innovate. See the forest from the trees

The re-issue of the Model D makes me think how the Matriarch is so much more synth for the money. But to be honest if I had $5000 to spend on my music making, I’d buy a Polybrute and bank the rest. Ymmv.

moog had to have original manufactures make the old components in 2016 (and I assume now, I haven't seen inside the 2023 mini nor read much on it) so, we the parts were gone that is what they meant

This is just kind of a word salad video. There’s market demand for another Model D reissue. That’s why they released it. If there was higher demand for a Voyager re-release they would have made that instead. When Sequential made the Prophet 08, Rev 2, 12, 6, all people wanted was a Prophet 5 and they finally got it.

And so the essence of music and creativity lies much further than any instrumentarium. Focusing on the instrument itself, its capabilities and sound may indicate poor ingenuity and creativity.

Hi Ian! I’m pleased at the reissue and disappointed at the price, but I understand the business choices that probably led to the pricing. With used 2016 reissues going for around $6k, the market exists for a new round of reissues with a few tweaks for $5k. For me, who’s collection was lacking a Model D *from Moog*, it’s an opportunity to get one at the lowest currently available price…so it made sense for me to purchase one.

This is about making money. I like making money as do they. They saw a window and are taking advantage. Why rant? If it isn’t serving a purpose for you, don’t buy. While we all would like them to do something new, I’d expect them to chase the dollar too. It takes liquidity to do new stuff and let’s face it, vintage has been selling. While I would love to own a real Model D, for my purposes a VST will due. The hardware is more than I’d like to pay to have a Model D. Maybe they ran out of new ideas.

From my perspective it seems that Moog is riding on their name recognition, and selling products like the minimoog at an extensive premium. I'm of two minds on this honestly. One part of me understands that thanks to the last twenty plus years of American politics and economics our domestic capacity to manufacture things has dramatically dropped. So I understand that an American made product will typically cost more than an imported one. However, Moog is obviously doing fine with selling their other products at much less than what the minimoog costs. I think the company decided to sell a limited run at silly high prices to train the market that their product is special. They took it away to not have to compete directly with the initial surge of interest and wonder at the Behringer D, and are now bringing it back at that same price range after people have had time to long for the one with the Moog name on it.

It all depends on when one grew up. I am an unfortunate one in a sense that I grew up a tad later than when the Minimoog was popular; and therefore the Model D reissue doesn't do anythinkg to me emotionally. I would be rather ecstatic though if Yamaha reissued the DX7II and SY77, Roland reissued the D-50 and D-70, and Korg reissued the M1, and the T-series. So, I kind of understand why older people get excited about the Minimoog reissue.

There shouldn't be any ICs or "chips" in a genuine minimoog, right? Or are there also shortages for discrete components? btw that's why the model D actually sound better in my opinion. There are no shortcuts to sound quality, I think.

Fun fact: they don't have to sell it for 5000 bucks......... and yet they do it anyway. Welp... it's THEIR funeral...

Should he be a Burl Ives impersonator or Colonal Sanders?

The new model d will be a collectors piece for serious players who can afford it.. luckily there are other options like the behringer D for those who can't afford the real deal

Well at least Moog led me to your channel.. Very good stuff! And agreed with your opinions on the Mini Moog Model D.

I agree with all your points. It’s too bad it wasn’t a bit cheaper. Here in Canada it’s gonna be a little over $7000 in our dollar. Too much for my taste. When they said they were releasing it I was really excited until I seen the price. It would’ve been a nice synth to just have in the house as a piece of history. I also agree that I am crossing my fingers and hoping moog releases some new gotta have it synth. They kind of have that with the Moog one but I can’t afford that

Moog and Sequential make quality products and for people with money, people with little budget have little to do with that sound environment; That is why people who play Moog/Sequential/Oberheim instruments are exclusive people with cachet, people who seek distinction in their sound, people who love and enjoy their sound because it is simply the best and the Nº1 ,,, If not, let's do the test, put raw sounds of a Moog Model D, OB6, OBX8,Trigon, in a beringerin I wait here...

Moog has nothing unfortunately. They sold the reissue #2 with a wall wart power supply?? Gosh.

Same what i was thinking, a reissue of a Voager would be awesome.

Well, if you want something new and innovative (instead of clones) you just have to get out of your "moog"-zone. I'd rather spend money on a SOMA Pulsar-23 than another Moog reversion. Regardless, I think Moog has also released many great new products in recent years.

I think the big difference between synth people and musicians is what they want. Synth people want more features to make sound. Musicians want an instrument that sounds good for making music. Although the minimoog was released 50 years ago, we’re not making music like that anymore so the range of sounds for modern music is still untapped. Just like Fender is still releasing ‘59 Stratocasters but people aren’t playing doowop anymore.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this. I haven't been around the analog synth community for more than a couple of years so this synth doesn't have any special place in my heart. I absolutely cannot fathom that price for a mono synth. Or even half that price. But again, maybe I'm not nostalgic enough!

I am in my mid 60s. I have had synths of my own from the 1970s. I have moved from analog to digital and back. I have a large collection of synths including 2 modern Moogs. I love the clones that are available now because when I got my first wasp I paid £199 for it and I was earning £23 a week. I paid about £1800 for my sub 37 and not many 17 year old kids could afford that on minimum wage but they can afford a Behringer model D at £250. This is the golden age of synths now not when we where kids. The latest innovations in synths might be fantastic when they come along but at £2000 to £3000 they will only be available to a very small number of people. Moog will make reissues because the likes of me and you can afford them. But even things like the mother 32 are to expensive for a 17 year old.

If I had the money I'd consider buying one simply for the investment. if I'm still around 30 years later, I guarantee the street price would go up, but the question remains of whether or not it would be a hedge against inflation.

As far as I remember, the first reissue of the Minimoog was made with original parts from the original manufacturers, or very close replacements. That means, old parts or equivalents with all their “flaws” and flairs. And they stopped producing the reissue when they ran out of these old parts, or when their sources wouldn’t make them any more. I am not sure if the ongoing chip shortage has a big effect on making another reissue of the Minimoog. The only chips in the Minimoog are probably OpAmps. And Moog might try to avoid using the modern versions of these chips, as they probably want to go for the less clean sounding older versions. If they found another source for those chips, it’s likely not from a modern manufacturing process. So, they are not really competing for manufacturing capacity with other chips.

Zero creativity with the millennial generation. The movies being released now are re-releases of modern characters with the same plot; Marvel Comics and other cartoon shows continue to re-release Superhero movies. Born in ‘70, I have indeed seen the best of creative genius in the 80s and early 90s. What is happening?? Surely we didn’t reach the ceiling of creativity and imagination, yet here we are… 🤨😟 I loved the Main Street Electrical Parade that Disneyland put on for decades; it was my toddler intro to the Moog and I’ve been smitten ever since!

Key components are not manufactured anymore, if they used modern equivalents it is not the same. They likely were able to source more of the old parts

Ian, great take on the Model D conundrum. I wish Moog would make an affordable uni-timbral 6,7, or 8 voice *stereo* polyphonic "Moog" analog synth with patch memories and largely knob-per-function ala Sub 37/Moog One style modulation programming interface with wood end-cheeks, USB and NO FAN. And. would it be too much to ask for an arpeggiator and a sequencer? As a synth player for the last 25 years and a fortunate custodian of several iconic vintage synths the Model D was on my list for a long time. And I almost pulled the 2016 Model D trigger, but settled on the Sub 37. I tried the Behringer "D" clone and while it absolutely sounded like a Model D, the **tiny** interface experience was totally lacking and left me playing my other vintage synths instead, so I sold it. Sequential: take note, you knobs are getting too small and plastic-ie!!! About 5 years ago I drew the line with patch memory as "the least the manufacturers could offer" to us. I have a Voyager XL and love it. Interactively and sonically, the Voyager blows the Sub 37 to shreds. But, the Sub 37's modulation interface and the Sub 37s filter is more "growly". But I find that I can mimic the "growl" easily with the "mixer insert" on the Voyager. The Moog One did hold a certain interest to me, but seemed to be plagued with issues nevermind that it has a FAN like the MemoryMoog did. I think the Model D reissue will please many folks and spawn countless hours of exploration and music. The reissue will also please the Moog employees, who need to hold things together until the chip woes are in the rear view mirror. About the component shortage; my experience and understanding is that microcontrollers and other ICs are more scarce, but discrete components are and have been typically available, so that may play a factor as to why Moog re-re-issued the Model D.

Go buy one. Quit being cheap. I have 3 minimoogs. They sound better than anything else. All the great synths are 1 or 2 trick ponies. Taurus 1 pedals are 2 trick ponies, but they do what they do 10x better than anything else. Go buy 34 sm57’s or one u87.

The new Moog management try to hype the Moog Model D, to keep the hysteria and enigma around this great instrument, I one owned the Moog Minimoog from 1978, and it was a blast it is nothing like a Minimoog, BUT to pay $ 5000 for it naah, Thank god for Uli Behringer who managed with surface mount technology create the Model D and the Poly D who i happens to own, tested side by side with the original Moog Minimoog it is very, or imposible to tell the difference, As the analog circuts has their own life, even two Mini´s does not sound the same, and the Behringer Model D you can buy 13 of them, polychain them and get a Monster real polyphonic synth with 13 voices consisting of 3 oscilators/voice, and induvidial filter/Amp envelopes,...or buy 7 Poly D´s to be the most nerdy dude on the block 😆😄 🎹 Love cheers 💚

From a value stand point, these are massively overpriced IMHO. To have this simple synth design rise in price so much from the previous offering is madness. Collectors and professionals (money no object) will grab one and be happy. If I was about to buy a Moog, I'd look at a mint Voyager, or used Moog One. Moog obviously need to max out the profit they make on each synth, which means all the synths at this price level will be limited production. A software recreation, or a Behringer is likely as far as I'd go. Even the Moog One doesn't hold value well, when you factor that into the RRP, it's a non-starter. If this basic synth costs over £5K UK, then a new Voyager release would be £10K plus. It would have to be marketed completely as such, so that it didn't eat into the sales of the Moog One too.

On chip shortages: I haven't ripped my '16 reissue apart so this is all speculation, but if the minimoog used the Curtis CEM3340 for the oscillators then it would make sense there would be a production shortage. Behringer has a small city's worth of integrated circuit plants in China that allows them to make anything they want. If they don't use the 3340 there might still be a different oscillator-on-a-chip or filter-on-a-chip minimoog relies on

I was hoping the Model D (2022 Edition) would be Duo-phonic. And with additions like software / VST Midi implementation for DAW use. Not sure if it actually has this. Also, patch storage would've been a total step up. But at the same time, I respect they wanted to keep it vintage. It still would be cool to have one, But at same time... $5k for a mono re-issue is questionable. (I mean... an OB-X8 is at the same price.) Yet it's still a missed opportunity to not rev it up completely to today's standard. But for sure, I also would've love to have seen a newer version of the Minimoog Voyager. I've always wanted one. But couldn't afford one 10 years ago while in high school (when prices were reasonable, used especially). Then they discontinued in 2015. And their prices today make them impossible to even want for just a mono.

The Model D is *the* synthesizer-that thing uses discrete topology and hand-wiring. The prices are never going to be low for a synth manufactured like that, but it’s a classic. I’m happy with my Subsequent 37 and Minitaur, so it does not appeal to me. Comparing a Behringer Model D with its janky-ass build quality to a hand-wired synth with discrete circuits is ridiculous. It’s two different markets. It’s the beauty of capitalism-if you want your janky-ass Chinese-made B Model D, go for it. If you want to tell yourself that janky-ass synth is “the same thing as a $5K synth with hand-wiring,” go for it. Whatever. Who friggin’ cares? Conversely, if you want to drop the $5K, do it. The handwringing over this is ridiculous. If you lived behind the old iron curtain, you’d get the people’s synth, you’d like it or else. There…you got me to watch and comment.

Behringer beat them to the release. Saved a ton of $$$$

They got us all. Regardless how many Moog's you already have, you're not a real Moog fan, unless got new reissue :D We're all pissed feeling, - $5k is too much and I want it, but I want other synth for my music and its' two great other synths and such.... Disappointing, really. Though I do hope Moog is having something in new a pipe. Selling some ModelD's for premium is healthy for them and raises plank of the price for the next serious synth. I'd love if they just did ModelD for $2k or so as-is (no extra features), so many Moog fans can have it. And have money for the next thing.

Agree with you on this. As long as the core of the Minimoog was there I would have been happy. I've had 2 Minimoogs over the years... it would have been great if they had added paraphony and option for mono/stereo filter... even that small progression would have made a difference for me. oh.. and that price!%6!!&&&!!!

Maybe they stocked components for 6 years

This video has it all, the controversial title, the click-bait thumbnail, and the complain-y rant. If you want innovation at a fraction of the cost, just get the Minimoog iOS App from Moog - even if you have to buy the iPad it will still cost you a fraction of a Model D. Personally, I think extracting RU-vid interaction by ragging on a small company assembling a beautiful instrument in not China is morally deplorable. Surely there are more constructive and uplifting topics which give you the clicks and likes you crave?

Sadly, Moog is going down the drain. Having been recently bought by InMusic (Alesis, Akai, Numark, etc...), and we all know what happened to Alesis when they were bought by that same company years ago? Everything to do with synthesizers from Alesis was dropped, including the fantastic Andromeda (which was abandoned and left with dozens of major software bugs never to be fixed). Since Moog Music mainly produces the same thing, over and over again, which is overpriced monophonic synths, and only has the Moog One as a über expensive polysynth (akin to the Memorymoog from yesteryears which also brought the former Moog Music company down with it), the future of Moog Music looks pretty somber. Moog Music has stretched the rubber band as far as it'll go concerning the use, and re-use of their only expired patent: the ladder filter. Time to move on but they're stuck in a loop. Being a lucky owner of a vintage 1975 Minimoog D myself, I was glad to hear someone else acknowledge the fact that the Behringer Model D is very much identical soundwise to a real Mini, as I discovered myself when I compared it directly.

£5 grand !! I am happy with my Grandmother that dose more for less than a grand. I'm hoping they take the plunge into eurorack myself.

I'm sure the mini moog is great. Is it 5g great? It may well be. I'm sure I'll probably never know. I will say Moog has been maybe the most innovative of the well known synth companies, the subharmonicon, the DFAM, those are righteous. I hope they keep coming with the modules. Eurorack and yeah, software are where all the innovation seems to be these days

You just don’t get it…….

But Ian, Appalachian cherry though...

I have a Boog but have always wanted a real Mini but at the price they want it is just not worth it.

Yeah, the Voyager would have been something. Also, why not a Minimoog with memory?

Isn’t the “One” and the “Subsequent” not innovative enough?

this is a non-event for me. how many times can this be done, especially with other synths that resemble it plenty. IMO, its value is as a news topic for you , and others, to do a video. if someone gave me one, i would sell and buy some much cooler gear for the money.

I had been drooling over the new mini Moog Model D but just couldn't justify the $5K price tag. While it would be nice to own a piece of music history (or at least a re-issue), I took you advice and bought a Behringer. Actually, I bought the Poly D, which as many more features, including a sequencer and 4-note polyphony. So far, I love it! I love running the 4 oscillators in mono mode and detuned just a tad for a huge sound! Thanks for an informative video!

Kerrrchingggg

Legend or not, the price is one huge catastrophe. For the same price I get 8 - 9 Behringer Poly D's, depending on the daily price, which sounds almost as good as the original and also has a few more features like e.g. the sequencer and the paraphony. I also doubt that you can tell which is the original and which is the Behringer in a blindfolded test. You have to seriously ask yourself how Moog wants to justify this exorbitantly high price, because Moog knows that the Behringer Poly D is available on the market at a fraction of the price. I think the device will only be bought by people with enough money on their account who want to put the eye-catcher in their studio.

I could not agree more. While the Model D is iconic, Moog's marketing scheme is irritating and arrogant. Almost double the price of the 2016 reissue-- for a spring & a stain upgrade? Please........

The New Minimoog is not just announced it's already available in USA for $5000 and will probably be available soon in UK. Behringer Poly D at £400 Pretty much sounds identical.