More Classics: Jay Z or Kanye West? | Everyday Struggle 

akademics the chorus, joe the verses and nadeska in the back there like some adlibs

Him saying runaway isn't good hurt my soul

Joe's blood pressure is over 9000

Series should be titled Nedeska's Everyday Struggle

Nadeska bout 10 episodes away from snapping, fam.

Joe Budden is hilarious, but he's dead wrong on this. MBDTF is hands down a classic

when he went down the tracklist of MBDTF I was like Got Damm that Shit Classic!!!! got Damn

funny cause some of jay-z's classics are cause of kanye's production

A classic album is an album that stands the test of time. It is an album that is innovative and impactful that stands the test of time. Aundre is way different from Kanye West. Aundre was actually singing on his albums like a little blues boy. Kanye actually took the autotune of a vocoder and synthesizers and made it into a trend. He made it melodic and cool. He also illustrated animations and creative imagery into his videos where it seemed like an event. People like Drake started to follow that and all these trap rappers are doing it too. Brysen Tiller too. Kanye did that long video for over an hour for dark twisted fantasy and made it into a movie like Beyonce is doing now. Alot of things Kanye did are ahead of its time. Kanye rarely showed his face on his albums and now Jay-Z and Drake are doing that. I agree with Dj Akademics but in my opinion Kanye has more then 4. He has 5. I still bump to 808.

lmao you can't watch Joe speak without getting some type of anxiety...

I know he did not just say Runaway was a wack song.........I better be FUCKING SLEEP CUZ I'M TRIGGERED RIGHT NOW.

This debate is classic

Joe gonna mention Kanye red outfit while wearing an all grey nursing home outfit

sooooo because its not the best Ye album it ain't a classic? it's not Kanyes fault all his albums are such high quality. Joe be bugging

MBDTF is undisputed, hands down, not even an argument, CLASSIC lol why is this a question?

"I was like 9 bro"- Akademiks 😂😂💀💀

Poor nedeska, has no voice in these conversations lmao

MBDTF is a classic. Now I get what Joe is saying, we dont want to call all an artists albums classics, but we cant punnish an Artist for making classics by saying they are only allowed 2 or 3 albums to be called classics. Kanye made 4-5 classic albums and thats a fact. He did it and we cant take that away. Now with that said, Joe is wack for saying MBDTF isnt a classic. to some people its his best album, people who dont listen to rap or hip-hop would call it one of the best albums in any genre, I even know people who listen to only Opera and Classical music and would rate it among the best pieces of art period.

Joe's loud as fuck

Kanye is a musical genius.

In time, every Kanye album will be considered a classic

MBDTF Is 100% a classic what the fuck

Late registration, college dropout, graduation, twisted fantasy. All classics. Simple as that

Kanye easily has 5 classic albums. Then he has 3 great albums (YES BITCH, YEEZUS WAS A GREAT ALBUM) You may like the guy or not, every album he's ever dropped has changed the sound of an entire future generation. No relevant artist today can say he/she hasn't been influenced by a Ye album. For example: - Chance The Rapper/Kendrick Lamar/Childish Gambino: College Dropout/Late Registration/MBDTF - Drake: 808s - Travi$ Scott/A$ap/The Weeknd: 808s/Yeezus - Tyler The Creator/Childish Gambino: College Dropout/Late Registration/MBDTF - Frank Ocean: MBDTF I can go on and on with this... Kanye ACTUALLY IS top 5 most influential of ALL TIME and NUMBER ONE for this generation. In my opinion...

Runaway is one of the best rap songs of all time.

Kanye West have 4 classic albums 1. College Dropout 2. Late Registration 3. Graduated 4.My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy

The first minute of runaway is better than anything joe has and will ever put out in his career.

In time every Kanye album will be a classic 🙌🏼

Lol. Yeezy on a mountain scratching his balls chilling

Rumour has it Fantano was in that set smiling the whole time.

This is like the First Take of Hip Hop lmao. Just waiting for Stephen A. to pop out somewhere.

I find ndeska more attractive as these shows progress.

He’s tripping if he doesn’t think MBDTF is a classic.

MBDTF is kanye at his highest quality. He rapped better on that album than any other album he has put out. Also it was his best produced album as well.

Hopefully Kanye watch this at the mountain top and makes fire. This show is getting more watchable too s/o to Joe for coming around big ups

A classic album is TIMELESS. You can’t knock an artist for being great. By Joe’s definition, no one artist could ever have more than 2-3 classic albums

JAYZ classics: 1. Blueprint (Prod. by Kanye West) 2. The Black Album (Prod. by Kanye West) 3. Reasonable Doubt Kanye West Classics: 1. The College Dropout 2. My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy 3. Graduation 4. Late Registration

Kanye hands down.

MBDTF Is one of the greatest albums of all time. It has such a rich production value and sends a very conflicting and beautiful message.

I am leaning more toward Joe's argument for what a classic is. It seems that a classic album can 1. help the listener, though the music, re-imagine the time in which it was created 2. presenting the music in a unique way, conceptually, as a body of work, and at times pushing boundaries of genre 3. very high replay value years later

hahahaha "the 700 Joe Budden fans"

7:41 Nadeska: we're only talking about 2007-2017 Joe: so Kanye has 4 classic albums

Kanye revolutionised the way auto tune is used in rap with his 808 & Heartbreak album.

swear i thought akademiks was bout to cry at 7:56

U just learned that world two days ago, U just keep saying SONICALLY 💀

Kanye created 5 classic albums in 6 years. He literally has the perfect discography that every artist dreams of, and strives towards. Everything from The College Dropout to My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy is literal perfection. I'd break it down as, Kanye is the better artist, while Jay is by far the better rapper. 💯

Akademiks dead ass look like the frog meme

Kanye has more classics

10:13 "THAT'S HOW CLASSICS GO DICKFACE" so true

" sonically" "sonically" sonically SONIC THE FUCKING HEDGEHOG

Every single Kanye West album is amazing. You have to listen to them many times in order to understand. For example, I remember when I first listened to Yeezus I was like "wtf is this electronic shit?" But after hearing it over and over I understand that that album is YEARS ahead of it's time. Sure the lyrics aren't the best but the production is amazing and the way he uses his voice in subtle ways to complement the beats are genius. Same for TLOP. When I first heard it I was thinking that Kanye let me down but after hearing it again and again you understand how different and ahead of his time his albums are. Every single album Kanye makes is different from the last and somehow they're all fucking great. He is the most consistently great contemporary artist there is right now. Shit, even look what he did with fashion. Before the Yeezy boosts, nobody was using that materials that that shoe is using and now all the major (Nike, puma, Jordan, Converse, etc) brands copied the style. Man is a creative genius.

i agree with Joe. Most people nowadays call an album a classic just cause it bangs lmaoo

damm i love how joe is so passionate about hip hop

KANYE HAS ALOT MORE CLASSICS...AND MOST OF JAY Zs CLASSICS HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH KANYE'S PRODUCTION....JAY Z'S THE RAPPER,KANYE'S THE RAP ARTIST..JOE'S MY GUY...BUT I TOTALLY DISAGREE... KANYE IS A CLASSIC ARTIST AND HAS WAY MORE CLASSICS THEN JAY Z AND YE IS WAY MORE IMPACTFUL.

MBDTF was a dope album definitely kanye's best work

Wale hurt AF right now. Nigga work his tail off and nobody mentions him among classics. lol

Good Kid Mad City Forest Hills Drive My beautiful dark twisted fantasy The Carter 3 Take Care All Classics I STILL listen to everyday.

Can't tell me nothing 🔥🔥🔥🔥 my fav Kanye west song

Blueprint 3 was the shit in like 9th grade. Watch The Throne, and Magna Carta was cold too.

Budden is crazy if he genuinely thinks Graduation is better or more classic worthy than MBDTF

Considering that Kanye was a big part of 2 Jay Z classic albums,then you gotta give it to him.

Sonically

Basically, Akademiks is right, Budden is wrong. Budden is louder and angrier, so he appears right. Most people disagree with him going in, so he's handicapped as is. But he's not convincing a single soul of anything. Especially if he thinks Graduation had more influence and impact on the genre than Dark Fantasy. Also, his 808s rant was borderline incoherent.

Joe came out the womb as a Oldhead.

Joe Budden goes from screaming to laughing to screaming again in .2 seconds

Kanye > Jay-Z

Fucking LOVE this show so much. The reason I subscribed to complex. I love taking in Joe buddens knowledge and wisdom on the music industry today. Hope to do a feature with him sometime

Nadeska is basically HOT!

Ak saying Graduation isn’t a classic album is WILD.

Lost in the world is a fucking classic song what is he talkin about?!? I'm triggered bro

y'all better start letting my baby Nadeska get a word in.... talk ya shit beautiful!!!

Kanye has more classics than any other hip hop artists and has a much better discography than any other hip hop artist.

Bro WTF?? joe said he needed 5-10 years to see if it was a classic. IT HAS BEEN 7 YEARS SINCE MBDTF DROPPED AND NOW HE IS SAYING THAT IT ISN'T A CLASSIC BECAUSE OF WHAT THEY SAID ABOUT IT WHEN IT DROPPED?!!?

the disrespect for Hov in the comments is crazy the man has 3-5 classics

Joe’s logic is that you’re not allowed to have over 3 classic albums in hip hop

Also, I can argue anyone here over TM101, Illmatic, Graduation, The Blueprint, Get Rich Or Die Trying are all classics period.

Good Kid Mad City references Thug Motivation 101... classic recognize classic.

Classic = Time less= Kanye first 3 albums Hands down

Juvenile's 400 Degrees #Classic

MBDTF is second only to college dropout, def a classic

Joes point is mainly how impactful an album is makes it classic. MBDTF is my fav Kanye but College Dropout, Late Registration and Graduation are definitely classics because of the impact.

7:58 Akademics look like he trying so hard to hold back tears 😂

damn nadeska is fine tho

All kanyes albums are classics #facts

From 2000-2017 1. Blueprint 2. Mmlp 3. The eminem show 4. College dropout 5. Relapse 6. TPAB 7. Gkmc 8. Take care 9. Carter III My personal classics

Kanye's albums starting with College Dropout to My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy are *Certified Classics*, they sonically are such creative and diverse outings that shaped the following Hip-Hop Generation. We live in a music space where 80s & Heartbreaks has a arguably larger descendant tree than any Jay-Z album in terms of Inspiration. I think Jay-Z and Kanye West are both Legends in their own rights, but Kanye has touched so many more & will remain eternal in those projects I just listed.

Joes blood pressure rises everytime AK breaths on the Kanye subject 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

"The Love Below" reference yassssss Joe Budden be Knowing!!!

If J. Cole Friday Night Lights was a album, it would be classic worthy. Not up for debate

I prefer Kanye especially his first three albums alone beat Jay's entire career to me

Joe budden can be really annoying. Raps Stephen A smith.

the song Barry Bonds is fire! don't know they talking about saying it's trash.

Every ye album is classic dude is our Beatles

7:58 Akademiks looks like he wants to cry LMAO

kanye GOAT

808s &Heartbreak is Kanye's most underrated album

Nadeska so cute when she is angry

Joe is bright red the whole fucking time

Thank you Joe for saying that The Cool is a classic.

Aye joe you buggin runaway is dope. I learned how to play that shit on the piano. The only song I can play on the piano.