Mark Oster How are you my comment is never to downtalk officials as I am one myself just to see what can be fine tuned or worked as i learn something every time in this game plus I show these videos to younger refs I mentor.... You right but it seemed like he wasn't upset about that, he might have gone after the one player for just coming in late and possibly stepping on him. This whole incident could've been easily avoided, she could work on her game management (the parent she can't control but her management will prevent them acting the way that parent did). Her foul recognition looked off, I may be wrong but from late whistle seemed like she wasn't going to call the original clip by red player. Did she look over to AR to get a yes or no? She could work a little more on her whistle the tone says a lot in distinguishing severity of fouls. Lets players and parents both know you are attentive to the game and are aware of players behavior. Her nonchalant attitude with the late whislte and body language would have any parent thinking the ref just doesn't wanna be here, doesnt care, or their kids safety isn't in the best capable hands. I'm not trying to downtalk her at all because to get on that field takes guts with the way parents and coaches are nowadays. Sad how so many young refs are turned away by parents like this and you put that solely on assignors not matching up refs with their level of officiating. For those that have a serious shortage press on but if you are getting games that you know you can't handle this will more than likely occur.
We changed the whole landscape of sports. EVERY parent had to sign a waiver that if they interfered with or abused a referee verbally their child would be banned from playing for a 12 month period. This stopped all the problems overnight.
I'd love to see/hear what junior thinks of 'Daddy's antics ??. Obviously 'Daddy's never actually played the game because if he had he wouldn't have just condemned his son to endless ridicule from his team-mates !
Agreed, charging the field like that should result in an ejection. About the only thing that would have made a difference, for me personally, is if he was tending to his kid. Except he started yelling at the ref.
lakebay972: I have two boys that play soccer and just Saturday my son got clipped by another player and hit the ground hard. We thought he broke his wrist. Guess what, I didn't charge the field. I ran to that end of the field, made eye contact with the ref as he shook his head for me to enter the field. So I guess your theory was wrong. Also, like I said if I were the ref on that game I would have sent the dad off for coming at me instead of tending to his child. The permission to enter the field is not to tell me what you think I am doing wrong. Not to mention most parents are ignorant of the laws of the game and just scream from emotion. I get irritated sitting on the sideline while my son plays because of the dumb shit parents say.
It's tough my friends son plays. He took a cleat to the head one game and went down to his knees. My friend did not want to charge the field to yell at the ref, he did want to go down and check on his son. Fortunately, his son said he was ok and was helped over the bench. Then his dad went over and checked on him. I was ready to go down to the field myself. Yes, you are correct, I agree that parent should have been escorted out of the game.
I bet that kid who was mortally wounded then made a miraculous recovery seconds later watches a LOT of pro soccer....they have this act down to a science......
Tell me you dont play soccer without telling me you dont play soccer He isnt acting like he is mortally wounded, its just that he got kicked in the knee which is very sensible by the way, and so it hurt him, but only for a few seconds
As a referee you will learn to call the easy calls. Players will respect you more, and incident like this won't happen because you already blew your whistle to single there was a foul. Good teaching moment.
That was some retaliatory kick! I felt it from here. He is a small player and needs to get across that he wont be treated or intimidated like that. Its no harm to take a red once in a while to establish it
#11 has a good kick. i think #17 found that out the hard way. that being said, the parent is an idiot. either be a parent or ref the game. you can't do both. one or the other. the kids in red were kicking the kid in white while he was down of course #11 is going to react
Chris Walker White was getting even after the red #17 kicked him in the back after he was already down. Red #17 should have been gone for the unsportsmanlike conduct, then white for retaliation.
Mike Mcintyre what an absolutely irrelevant point to make. Firstly my point is that the ref may have missed the initial contact. But you can't retaliate in the game or football and not get a red. Where the ref was placed she could not have seen the sneaky kick in the back. Lashing out like he did doesn't make him a hero. In the teams I coach and my colleagues coach he would have been subbed for the retaliation. Actually every coach in our league would have done that. Boy needs to learn!
@@chriswalker8174 You and most everyone else seemed to have missed White #11 punching a red kid in the gonads at 0:23/0:24. You all seem to be paying close enough attention to seeing the Red player "start it", but somehow miss the White player starting it. Wow.
The ref had pulled the game up and was obviously reaching into her pocket to start handing out cards. She had taken control of it immediately. At that stage the players also stopped doing anything. Pity the parents couldn't show the same level of maturity as the kids.
@Caleb Berhanu Then you're obviously part of the problem. The ref handled it and there was no need for anyone to go onto the field. If the player is injured it is up to the coach to go and deal with it. Not a parent.
@Caleb Berhanu It is because of dumb parents like this guy that fights end up happening. The ref took control of it. This clown and anyone who wold do the same is an idiot. The guy that went onto the field checked on the kid, but was then going towards the other kid. That is a big no no. The only person who was looking to escalate hits was the parent who went onto the field.
@Caleb Berhanu If you watch it as he got to where the ref was, he didn't stop where the ref was. He kept walking. The ref started walking backwards to stay with him. Watch it closely. The guy that went out there was absolutely out of line. The ref had control of it. He had not even given her a chance to see what the outcome will be. If he did this in our country he'd be banned.
@Caleb Berhanu you're part of the problem.. You're the reason why referee's quit.. And even thinking of going up to a young official like that is acceptable show the lack of control.. Should you really be playing football if you can't control your emotions and anger?
@Caleb Berhanu you're the reason why referee's get abuse 🤦♂️still trying to say that this behaviour is acceptable, think you need to hang up the whistle and re evaluate
You guys are making up excuses for the no.11s violent attack. Youre the kind of losers who think deadly force is appropriate when someone puts a hand near them. Pathetic just like no.11s uncontrolable rage.
Parents are IDIOTS! Any parent that enters the field of play is evicted for the rest of the season #10 White Jersey - GREAT job keeping the parents calm. Your a good example for the parents
IMO, the parent should be allowed on the field to check on their child. In no way should he threaten another child or ref. Both the player who kicked their opponent and the parent of the child who got kicked should have received red cards.
Both should have been carded. Red retaliated because same white player hits red 10 in the lower abdomen/? Even family jewels. White player definitely appears the have a shorter fuse but the red player was sneaky with his late hit.
Blah blah blah, making up stuff to defend the indefensible, full on kick to a knee that could stop the boy playing football full stop. You guys are pathetic.
The incident happened because of red # 17 and most people completely missed it. Why did the white player kick red #17? Just about everyone who commented completely missed it. Well after the whistle, Red #17 went up behind the white player who was laying on the ground and intentionally kneed him in the back. White player got up and then kicked him in the knee. I’m a referee. The correct call is for red #17 to get a red card for violent conduct and for the white player to see red also for violent conduct. Red #17 tried to be very tricky and rough up the white player after the initial play by kneeing him in the back when he wasn’t looking.
I agree. It was only when the play was shown in slow motion was it clear that 17 CLEARLY did something to 11 when 11 was on the ground. At first I thought that 11 went after the wrong kid but after slo mo, it's clear 17 was at fault.
As an ex-referee, I thought something was up with red #17 - but I couldn't see enough on the first play. At the time, I was concentrating on the red #9 who was trying to get the ball while white #11 was lying over it. To this point, there was no foul - and the play was stopped correctly when white #11 handled the ball. Having the benefit of video replay, I agree that you're completely correct. Red #17 is guilty of violent conduct. Both should have been sent off. If you look at the referee, she seems to look away at the exact moment that Red #17 strikes. While she's at the perfect angle to see the incident, I can understand why she didn't notice it. But I can also understand why the referee's assistants didn't see it either - my view was drawn to the danger area - which is any player when the ball is in play and they're off their feet. So, it sucks that it wasn't caught during the game, but I can't blame anyone here. Great spot on your part though!
The ref should of called the initial foul earlier she let them play on for a while while the kid was on the ground and the other players were trying to get the ball since play was live
Parent acts as if the ref kicked the kid. Love how the AR hauls butt to stand in front of the parent to block the girl ref as obviously he was attempting to intimidate her with his well rounded out of shaper figure. Also the kid kicked the wrong player if his intention was to kick the one who love tapped the ball when he was on the ground.
Something to remember for people commenting on the ref - she's a kid. Yup, could have done better, but she's in a learning experience just like the players. Most high level refs I know of have blown games and situations much worse than this. The reality that players, coaches, and parents don't understand is that we learn by mistakes; and having people charge in like that just makes the ref want to quit, which depletes yet another option. Serious kudos to far side AR - he really seemed to salvage the situation.
I coached 8-9 year old girls’ softball when my daughter was a child. I told the kids’ parents from the outset that if there was any crazy behavior by them, I’d pull the girls from the field and forfeit the game. The girls didn’t care as long as there was ice cream after we left the field anyway.
The lack of experience of the referee is noted. She must whistle and immediately go to the foul zone (the zone where the conflict is born) and take the ball and take control of the situation. She didn't, that's why it all erupted into a fight. They should hire referees with more experience and more considering that the spectators are parents who can easily end up fighting defending their children.
I played soccer. The ref looked like they were ready to hand out penalties. I got carried away from that point. Two players in my opinion should have been ejected.
Both players should be red carded. Referee shows 11 a yellow 😂😂😂 This girl clearly cannot handle a game like this for now. But it's a good exp for her. As far as the one that run on to the pitch idk if he's a coach or parent either way unacceptable 👌
The parent should've been ejected. If the coaches weren't invited on the field, they should've been ejected. If it's a youth ref, the AR should've ejected them on her behalf.
So the kid in white gets tripped, kicked on the ground and after the whistle this guy’s kid runs up and knees the kid in the back while he is still down. He finally retaliates. Pretty patient kid if you ask me.
0:24 white 11 tries to punch red 10 in the balls, he should have got a red card there. Red 10 even doubled over from the punch, red 17 was just sticking up for his teammate that got punched. Funny nobody else saw that.
The parent definitely didn’t need to do all that, ref had it handled, but I understand the frustration of watching his kid that did nothing get kicked in the thigh
Did the kid in the red dig his knees in the back of the other player? That was worthy of a red card but maybe next time the red shirt wont try any cheap shots
Lol....comment got me laughing and you are right you don't put to his face. You raise high is his direction when he is facing you so that coaches and spectators know what action was taken.
lakebay972 you must not know much about signals. You can tell she’s inexperienced just by field presence and confidence. Cards should be straight up so everybody sees it... hard whistles for serious fouls and to stop anything else from happening. Poor kid wasn’t fit to Center this game. Should’ve been assigned to the much older AR that came running on to save the day.
Let's be fair here, looks like a U12-U11 game and usually new referees are assigned to those type of games. She'll learn over time. Hopefully this incident doesn't stop her from officiating.
I'm assuming the female referee is in the beginning of her officiating career and is hesitate to call some penalties and missed the trip. She will develop with time to notice those plays more quickly and blow the whistle quicker when a player is on the group. However, missed calls happen and kicking someone on a dead ball is ridiculous and that player should be ejected and parents need to stay on the sidelines. Your kids coach will attend to a injured player and you will be summoned if it requires your attention.
#9 in red was the one that initiated the incident. The ref blew the whistle. #9 kept trying to kick the ball kicking the player that was down at least twice. Thne the kid that was kicked , kicked another player in red. Ref's failed. Fat guy should have been removed from the park. Both kicking kids ejected.
So NO one including the CR, AR and especially commentators here that have replay, saw the red player come over and kick the white player while he was on the ground (and I am not talking about the player kicking at the ball - look at the second red player that comes in). Minimum should have been a strong second whistle to stop the dangerous play, then a send off for the red player that kicked white while on the ground, and then a send off for the white player that kicked red in retaliation.
the Ref only blew the whistle as the kid in red kicked the kid in white. play was still active as far as the kid in red was concerned. he went for the ball in my opinion. Parents on the side line came running in and being aggressive. they are obviously passing that on to their kids. Ref should have blew quicker and kid in white lashed out.
I am not talking about red #9 who was kicking at the ball, I am talking about red #17 that you and the others missed who came in just to kick White #11 while he was on the ground.
I saw what you are talking about but I thought he stepped on the kid. The ball was still by the other Red team player and the second player went after the leg where the ball wasn't
I agree it can be considered a step on, but there is no Direct Free Kick Foul called stepping on; the proper term is kicking for both kicking and stepping on.
@@63076topher are we watching the same clip? The player in white who kicked the player in red retaliated because he was kicked on the ground. Before you say anything, he had no right to retaliate like that. It was disgraceful. The same white player before hitting the ground hits red(10, I think is his number, blonde/light brown haired boy) in the jewels or minimum lower abdomen. You see him bending over and I think that's why the red player kneed the white player on the ground as he saw the hit. Red and white retaliated and neither should have obviously whites retaliation on red was worse but it's retaliation just the same so yes both players should have been red carded. White player has a definite short fuse but red player is sneaky with his tackles. Both boys need to learn that that crap won't be tolerated so red card them
ok this is the worst ref ive seen im sorry. im a referee and im not one to say theyre bad refs or not but this is a newbie and should be placed with a lower level game.
I'm Hispanic, I cam hear and understand this crap. These dudes are people that have personal problems and dispose of their crap on whomever is having fun. I know them is embarrassing
What most of you fail to see is, that parent wasn't going for the referee, he wanted to pick on the child, guy in red hoodie told him if he wants to fight he'd gladly fight him, but don't be doing that to a child.
Good job referees. I would have also ejected the parent who ran all the way onto the pitch. And 1880 please stay away from youth sports. You are a disgrace to everyone here.
This is happens because of not having enough experience on official at game, this is clear .the assistant ref they run 🏃 and help the center ref have more experience only look at the way they show the cards it’s simple before the white players get 😠 was a clear foul on him is acting was of red card but if they will call the first foul nothing will happens
Everyone wants games with more experienced referees. You can't get a referee with a 300 game count when you walk out of the field on them in their first 10 games. It looks like about a 16 year old girl working a U12 match. There is nothing wrong with the level of assignment. She obviously had at least 1 more experienced AR to bail her out since she's newer. Fouls will be missed. That's not justification for this aftermath. This is more of a coaching and parent problem for the player to believe that behavior is acceptable than it is a referee problem.