More Stuff You Should Know About Buckshot [Part 2] 

“A single round of buckshot to the torso almost always results in an immediate change of behavior.” Now that’s a quote I can get behind! Love it! 😂

12:15 "a round of buckshot to the torso almost always results in a change of behavior" If by "behavior" you mean "the persistence of life" and by "change" you mean specifically "the cessation of" then yes.

Can we all please give Lucky Gunner some kind of award for the work they do? The info is unbiased, clear, concise, and relevant.

How this channel isn’t over 1M yet is mind boggling - some of the best, most well presented content out there.

"A single round of buckshot to the torso, almost always results in an immediate change of behavior." Lol, amen.

Paul Harrell recently referred to your 9th pellet flier and, in addition to complimenting you, agreed with you on the oddity of this phenomenon.

"A single round of buckshot to the torso almost always results in an immediate change of behavior." Truer words were never spoken.

"a single round of buckshot to the torso almost always results in a change of behavior' might be the best sentence in both episodes. A target dropping to the ground while his 2 or 3 hommies defecate themselves is certainly a change in behavior.

This is a GREAT series on buckshot and shotguns. You've effectively compressed 5 years of shotgun experience into these videos. *Well done, thank you.*

Excellent information. I have first hand experience using Rio buckshot on a home intruder many years ago, it performed very good at the distance I had to shoot ( about 25 ft) the entire load hit the intruder high in the upper chest and shoulder on his right side and he went down fast and was out of the fight without another shot being fired. The guy survived the wound but was crippled permanently and later died in prison from another inmate assaulting him.

You've taught me so much about shotgun ammunition in two videos. Thank you for mentioning the 9th pellet flyer

Shotguns. Most useful firearm ever made. Hunt anything that runs or flies with the variety if ammo available.

It’s called TERMINAL RESPONSIBILITY! They used to teach it at a remedial level. Not so much anymore but it’s nice to see you teaching it.

To add to your rifle/carbine vs shotgun notes: In the aftermath of a self-defense shooting, having used grandpappy's 12ga pump instead of a big scary black rifle might win you some sympathy points in a jury trial if you live in a place where your freedom might come down to that.

I use 00 Buck but in a pinch, such as no buckshot available due to an ammo shortage, #4 Turkey load will seriously mess an attacker up within the confines of a home as well. I used to work for the local S.O. as the shift SGT in their jail. Our training Lt, who is also certified by the state to teach pistol, rifle and shotgun courses, showed me some autopsy pictures of a guy who broke into the wrong house at 3:30 am a few counties over. Homeowner had an 18" barrel model 500 loaded with #4 Winchester Turkey loads instead of buckshot because this was during the middle of the big ammo shortage a few years back and finding buckshot in our area was about as easy as finding .22 lr was for the rest of the country. First shot hit the guy in the upper right arm. Wasn't much of it left other than the pieces of skin keeping the rest from falling to the ground. Second, round hit the guy center mass which immediately resulted in his involuntary compliance to the homeowners wishes to stop firing a .22 revolver at him. Both shots were from approximately 20 ft and at that distance the #4 turkey load was nothing short of devastating. It is also of note that the perp had enough meth and other drugs going through his system to give a large horse superpowers. Which explains why he was able to ignore the destruction of his right arm and keep firing.

Darn, had to watch this twice. Been shooting for 50 years, and LG taught me more about shotgun ammo than I knew. Thank you, Lucky G........!

I was in the military for over 22 years and we used a 9 pellet buckshot now it's good to know that the 8 pellet is better thank you for teaching us something many of us did not know.

I think that slugs are good for boars and bears, but not for many of us when it comes to home defense. Thanks for these videos, I appreciate your discretion and knowledge. May God bless you, sir, and watch over you and your family.

love the versatility of a shotgun. nice to have the ability to switch from buckshot to a slug for a longer shot

"One shot of 00 Buck will likely cause a change of behavior.." 😆 love it!! I'm gonna write that one down!

To paraphrase James Yeager "shotgun fights usually don't last very long".

An ounce and an eighth or ounce and a quarter at 1,200 FPS or thereabouts puts a lot more energy into the BG than a 230 gr.45 ACP round. To top it off, a shoulder fired weapon is easier to operate under stress at close quarters. That’s not to say you shouldn’t keep your handgun close by if you are proficient with it, but a load of buckshot properly placed is more likely to bring the confrontation to an end. As always, good information. Thank you!

Absolutely the best video I've seen on the topic. Outstanding job at presenting pertinent information that almost anyone with or without firearms training can comprehend. I love the no nonsense, cut straight to the chase approach on your presentation. Great job and thank you for this top notch content.

Solid, logical explanations and reasoning as usual. Thank you, glad I found this channel

As always, the information is presented in a concise, logical, and easy to understand matter. Great job Chris.

Flight control is when I keep the wings straight and level....opps, wrong channel.

Added to my list of keeper quotes: "A single round of buckshot to the torso almost always results in an immediate change of behavior. " Thanks for that!

I like to call that 9th flyer the "crazy ivan" though thats mainly talking about boxes of russian steel case ammo, each box comes with a single crazy ivan flyer round.

Great information to know especially about 9 vs 8 buckshot pellets and effects. Thanks for sharing this!

Neutralizing the threat 8 - 00 Buck at a time. Thank you Chris for sharing.

The excellence in this video just compliments Part 1. Thanks again for the very in depth yet easy to understand info. 😁👍👍

I really enjoyed this dual video series. Very informative and you have changed my mind-set on tight patterns vs wider patterns. Thanks.

I really liked this series. I have quite a lot of experience with handgun and riffle but know next to nothing about shotguns. I learned a lot and wanted to thank you 👍

Another good video Sir! I think you are the first person to actually talk about the "quirks" of buckshot (it's response to chokes, the 9th pellet flier, and the difference between buffered and unbuffered shot) on RU-vid. I've seen a fair amount of stuff about Birdshot but not Buckshot.

Best gun guy on RU-vid. Thoughtful, mature, and evidence-based.

Paul Harrell brought me here.

Absolutely fantastic video. I can’t believe I only just found this channel. Instant subscribe. 👍🏼

Great channel. Today's topic was probably one of my favorites. I use a shockwave in 20 gauge... Sleeps in bed with me... Various other calibers stashed between my bedroom and the front door. 👍

Great job....as always. Thanks for the quality ammo I bought from you last week: good price & only took 3 days over the weekend. Stay healthy everyone!

Thank you Lucky Gunner for all the info/tips you provide! I’m definitely thankful for the material you provide and I e supported Lucky Gunner by purchasing ammo for my Mossy 500.

So glad I found this channel. With so many "first time" buyers equipping shotguns for home defense due to the peaceful protests, without any experience with shooting shotguns, I hope they find this video. I really like that you cover both ammunition types and chokes. I am curious what your thoughts are on the Olin Mfr "military" 9-pellet 00 rounds as compared to those covered in the 2 videos. The discussion about chokes likely saved me some cash; which I'll gladly pay forward at your web store.

I subbed right after you guys put out the OG Beretta 1301 content and have been impressed at your quality videos ever since. I'm one of the few members of my department that still carry both a shotgun and patrol rifle on duty and absolutely love to shoot shotgun. I truly believe that aside from taking a course, the best shotgun training is to browse the RU-vid's for a bootleg "Art Of The Dynamic Shotgun" and get a handful of dummy shells. Another often overlooked advantage to me is the ability to administrative reload without losing the ammo already loaded. A pistol or typical modern rifle require you to drop the box magazine to insert a new one.

Outstanding video, as well as part 1. I feel a 12 gauge is by long and far the best home defense weapon of choice for not all but most homeowners, and you've explained why far more informative than I ever could have.

started watching these videos years ago. then recently bought ammo from you. Thanks for all the videos and work.

Great video and channel. It's always interesting for people outside the US to see how having drywall as construction material comes into play. Here in Perú, for instance, you go from shanties made of cardboard or reed mats to brick when you leave all but the most destitute of poverty.

First time seeing this Chanel and subscribed first minute I love the talk

i don't usually post comments but i watch and read virtually all your stuff( couldnt think of a better word , no offense intended. ). very professional, and informative. thanks guys. keep up the good work.

These videos are a gem of well articulated information, thank you

I can tell you that from my experience, with my shotgun, the Flight Control ammo patterns slightly best with Improved Cylinder(.720), instead of Cylinder(.730). I think this slight restriction keeps the shot cup inline with my point of aim a little better, without stripping it, which would happen with too much choke restriction. As for standard buckshot loads... My shotty patterns the best using an Improved Modified(.705), but a Full(.700) comes in close second. #4 buckshot patterns best using a .680, or a .690 choke. You provided some excellent info in these 2 videos, regarding buckshot. Maybe you dispelled a few "myths". Love your channel.

"the greatest potential to end the fight quickly" And that, my friends, is the American way. We don't always follow it, but we're usually at least aware of it.

Outstanding video, thank you for doing all the hard/expensive work upfront. Please keep excellent content like this coming.

Once again, Ithank you for your comprehensive review. Your information is clearly and completely stated without hesitation. Again, thank you!

I learned a lot the last 2 videos. Thanks

000 When it absolutely, positively, has to go down right now. And you are out of slugs.

Awesome 2 part series! Thanks so very much, Mr. Lucky!

Really good pair of videos, answered some questions, and convinced me to bring the 12GA back out of hibernation.

"Unconscious competence." I like that term!

I Really enjoyed This video!!!

Man I sure do love your channel. always full of great information and a lot of things to consider.. keep up the great work

Superb video! Best yet, very informative!

"9th pellet flier" reminds me of my morning squat on the throne. Good info though!

I always enjoy your presentations and learn from them too. Favorite is still the .32 caliber family video. Thx.

Always logical, clear, concise, informative and well-presented. Great vid.

Sorry, Chris - I should have also mentioned that I love your channel. You are very professional and I always find something useful in your teaching. Keep up the great work.

That little guy? I wouldn't worry about that little guy.

I love my shotty, so much fun, so intense, definitely going to get the nod if the SHTF at the house

Great 2 videos! I learned a couple things I never knew of or about....the 9th pellet flyer, wow. Thanks for both videos man!

Brilliant, I consider your videos among the very best produced by anyone. So thank you again, and I look forward to the next. I have never shot a shotgun, but look forward to it some day soon. I’m 64 and coming to shooting late in life, but I’m feeling as though it’s what our world now demands. I enjoyed your wry sense of humor vis-a-vis the change in behavior a buckshot round will produce. All my best.

Anyone ever shot a 12ga in a house with no ear protection?? Hello can you hear me?

"Immediate change of behavior". Perfect.

Awesome info! Thank you. Best video on this topic yet and I watched many

For a guy that looks like a craft brewer from Portland, Oregon, Chris really knows his way around firearms. Great tutorials.

Why not just use regular bird shot for in the house? Close range should keep it pretty tight and if one gets loose it wouldn’t have much energy once it hits a wall or something. Serious question.

I’ve had weird experiences with federal flight control, i always pick out different ammo to pattern to see how I like different loads for home defense and federal flight control 9 pellet 00buck doesn’t pattern that well in my gun, it always gives 2 flyers (Usually within an inch of each other) 5” away from the single hole where the wad and 7 pellets went through at 8yards (longest possible shot in my house) however I’ve heard of people getting single holes on paper at up to 15 yards. My new defensive load is federal 2 3/4” 12pellet 00buck because it consistently put all pellets with in a 5” circle at 8 yards and if I’m going to have the same spread then might as well go with the extra pellets with more evenly spread pellets throughout the pattern. Just goes to show that you always need to pattern your own gun My shotgun is cyl bore 18.5” rem 870

This was a terrific pair of videos. Thanks for the work and info.

Good discussion and information in both videos. As a longtime Subscriber, I agree with an earlier comment about being bewildered as to why this channel doesn't have well over a million subscribers. I have a Remington A5 built in 1908 which after 1911 became known as the Model 11. It is in very good condition and serves as a very reliable coyote killer with #2 buckshot out to near 35 yards.

Interesting how the 9 pellet buck is more likely to have a 'flier' pellet than 8 pellet buck. Thank you for making these videos for us.

I understand the main objective is to "Stop the threat" and not necessarily to kill. However, I believe it may depend on the local laws of where you live. The survival of a physical threat in your home may become a financial threat in the courtroom.

This Guy knows what he is talking about It . very clean explanation no mumbling like many others straight to the point well done .

This is very helpful especially for a first time gun/shotgun owner for home defence. Theres a lot of videos out there but dont really teach. Just purchased betetta 1301 tact. Thank you for making quality videos.

I prefer "Dragon's Breath " and a fire extinguisher!

"If you want a tight pattern without having to buy specialty ammo, you should instead get expensive custom gunsmithing."

I thank you very much ! Very well presented and delivered! Spot on Mate!

Excellent video, and sound, logical reasoning. Great job!

I seem to remember someone doing a demonstration with shotguns at various distances. When the pellets didn't spread at all before hitting the target, they seemed to penetrate completely and be more of a danger of over-penetration. I think I'd prefer a spread of about three inches when my pellets hit the target. Inside a home, I don't think I need anything special to get that spread. The Federal low recoil loads with the FlyteControl wads are nice rounds though. If I can get them cheaply enough, I like them.

I would most definitely be using lucky gunner for all my ammo needs if I didn’t live in California. 😫

Greatly appreciate your so clear, concise and informative presentation!

Thanks very much for putting all this info out there for us. Keep up the great work.

i love me shottys so much i have four 😎🤷🏽‍♂️, i need to buy a all wood stock. that mossberg 590a1 retro looks pretty sick

Good info. I use the Remington 8 pellet Managed Recoil 00 buck in my Mav 88.

Really enjoying these videos, cant wait for the next one!

Great content and terrific filming / lighting / editing. Fabulous work.

Gel test the #4 Buck!

It's got a good spread!

"when a person is exposed to a single round of buckshot it almost always results in an immediate change in behavior" ! LOL

This was one of the most informative buckshot videos I've ever seen, thank you! Had no idea how useful shot cups were up until now

I wouldn't mind seeing some testing on slugs. Particularly the higher velocity, softer lead, foster slugs. In my experiences when shooting slugs like Remington Sluggers, they seem to fragment fast & dump their energy pretty fast as well. That might not keep harmful projectiles from penetration interior walls inside your home but I couldn't imagine much leaving the outer walls of your home & reaching anything outside, including neighbors homes. If you live alone or your position in house has any relevance to the direction of your intended shots, this could def be a possibility. Weather you plan on using a shotgun, carbine or pistol, you most likely wouldn't be shooting any of them in a direction that could be unsafe to those others living/ sleeping in your home. No matter the weapon, we should always be target aware & conscious of what is behind it, right? So bc of their predictability & effectiveness, maybe slug tests? Just a thought... 🤔 Thanks for the awesome content guys 👍 and keep it up!

Got my trusty 24 inches Maverick 88 loaded and ready in my bedroom corner. Firts one is 00, the following are Slugs... That's the way i see it. 🖖🏻🇫🇷😎🇫🇷🤪🇫🇷🖖🏻

I really enjoy the knowledge and explanations that you spend time on this research. It's really important and your explanations are GREAT.! Thanks...!

Federal Premium was the most consistent of all we tested. Since our armed encounters tended to be at distance tight, consistent patterns served us best. However, for urban environments pattern spread can be very beneficial, especially if an assailant is moving. If a really tight pattern is desired then one should choose a rifled slug.