Morgan Elsbeth Meets Thrawn | Star Wars Tales of the Empire | Episode 2 | Disney+ 

One of the things I loved about Thrawn in the original Heir to the Empire novels was that not did he recognize the strengths of his enemies but also the shortcomings and weaknesses of the forces at his own disposal. But unlike other imperials he didn't rant and threaten other people to fix it but rather calmly accepted these factors and planned around them. And I feel like they've captured that vibe pretty well in this scene

​@@hfar_in_the_sky thrawn is my most favorite characters and favorite officer he is very competent and i love to see more characters that maybe not as smart as thrawn but i would want to see more competent officers that is a major threat like thrawn

He is my favorite character because of his words . Anyone can make an error ensign but that error does not become a mistake until you refused to correct it​@TakakiM-sr1df

I agree with those words

isn't this capitalism in a nutshell?

A surprise to be sure

@@jonathantorres4085 and a very welcome one

Fun fact: long before Rebels, Dave Filoni tried to find a way to put Thrawn into TCW but ultimately didn’t do so. Seeing him in TCW style animation shows they came full circle here.

@@GingerPisces2023Source?

@@GreenNinj4 “trust me bro”

The battles where the Empire lost.

Jakku? What is this battle of Jakku? Doesn't sound canon to me.

@@nahor88 It's Disney canon. A year after Endor, the Empire made a last stand on Jakku against the New Republic. It was the last battle of the Galactic Civil War. And yes, in case you're a wondering, Jakku happening only a year after Endor is incredibly dumb.

Ironically, Thrawn didn't predict the Battle of Lothal.

I mean that was pretty easy considering the writers knew what was going to happen.

Just as he explained to Nightswan. The only problem is that we haven't heard his side in live action yet; why he joined the Empire, to protect his people, the Chiss Ascendancy

@@Anders_Lund Yea , im sure when we get more room with him we will see it grow some more

Yeah this feels straight up like a scene from the books, if you’d only read the first you might believe this an adaptation from some point in the rest of the trilogy

​@Anders_Lundthe new thrawns trilogy explains this and goes into it very well unfortunately the books take place before and during rebels.

I think Thrawn sucked in Ashoka, but to each his own I guess, not my Thrawn.

Damn I feel dumb when I finally realize he is captain Palleon until his name was said.

eh in terms of that Kiner failed in this tales series no Grand Inquisitor or Vader themes used

@@BillPlunderbonesTew8it wasn’t focused on them as the main character. And we’ve heard Vader’s theme millions of times anyways

@@teekay1122 there were long segments of GrandInquistor that could have used his rebels theme as for Empire/Vader theme? This is tales of empire and you dont use it? that's just unacceptable lol

@@BillPlunderbonesTew8 “unacceptable”🤣Dude you’re getting pressed over something minimal. Get over it

Does anyone know the name of the theme when the episodes end for tales of the empire and the credits are rolling

He looks a lot like the book cover/comic version and it makes me SO HAPPY!!

Star Wars heir of the empire movie

@@tvalokibatman6563 Shows are better, they allow you to tell more story.

*not under Disney

Don't call the storm

As long as someone intelligent (not Filoni or Kathleen Kennedy) is writing and directing it, I’m game. Tony Gilroy maybe.

Palpatine and his lies. So many characters have their arcs and their deaths caught entirely in the falsehoods he wrapped around an unsuspecting galaxy People say Thrawn is the smartest character in Star Wars, but ultimately the Sheev comes out on top imho

​@@fernandorivera4719 palpatine is smart at manipulation and politics thrawn is a stratigest and smart he understands his opponents and learn about them and he smart enough to find something to ensure the empire stay strong while i did think the tia defender program and upgrading the fleets seen much better and powerful then a death star and let not forget they have 1 death star and they have many star destroyer

@@TakakiM-sr1dfyea I was reading about how someone said that tarkins failure was spending tons of money on having the most ships instead of the best ships….

Just like Dooku and Anakin; they thought that allying with Palpatine would further their goals, but it only ever serves Sidious.

@dariuscain2458 Quantity over quality.

We definitely need more Chiss content. The story of Mitth'raw'nuruodo from the Chiss Ascendancy to when he joins the Empire needs to be told

It's in the 3rd book of Thrawn Dynasty series titled "Lesser evil" and beginning of the next Thrawn trilogy titled simply "Thrawn"

And they have to feature Anakin working with Thrawn

The people of Dathomir and the Sith often worked hand-in-hand

His mentorship of Vanto and Faro. Thrawn working with Anakin during the Clone Wars and with Vader during the Empire. And just as important, the war against the Grysk

He'd be literally Star Wars's Napoleon.

@@jl88570 Napoleon doesn’t even hold a candle to Thrawn. Thrawn is on a completely other level already. Unnecessary comparison.

FR bro is as ambitious as Thanos

Sadly I think Chiss can be force sensitive but lose it as they age

@@KISSArmySoldier I thought they still had the ability to use the force but because of how their society is structured and the nature of their analytical mind they just “lose it” because they don’t use it. So if they started training at a young age they’d be just like any other force sensitive.

He is a military man. They may not design the weapons they use but they can sponsor and see the potential in them. Morgan may have designed it. However, Thrawn was the one who would have made it happen.

I mean, designing ships isn't really Thrawn's job. It makes more sense for him to recruit people with enough vision to empower the Empire further.

I loved that it was her honestly. I think it sets up the connection between the two right away.

​@clonecoric4140 imagine if thrawn have more competent officers on other ships that would listen to thrawn then he would be understandable

I believe Thrawn made adjustments that made it less expensive which is why it became one of the top projects afterwards.

No he was in control of the Seventh Fleet when he was a Commodore.

@@AlexOtto Respectfully, I think you need to reread Thrawn. He and Pryce talked at the end of the book. She mentioned how the Emperor may make him a Grand Admiral for his victory at Batonn. She also mentioned how such a victory could grant him command of the 7th fleet. Thrawn was given the Chimaera when he was promoted to Commodore

Also Palleon wasn't serving under Thrawn when he was an admiral.

I see one being about Lando and how he got his hands on Cloud City.

i was wondering the same but came to the conclusion that I shouldnt worry about it, just enjoy what they are trying to cook up, they always override the book lore.

We don't know if that is the first time Thrawn met Palleon. Considering that Thrawn know that Palleon is loyal to the Empire and not Grand Admiral Savit, it could indicate that they have met before. Even if they haven't served on the same ship, it's not impossible that they have interacted before Thrawn: treason

@@Anders_LundI see it as Pellaeon served in Thrawns fleet but not on his ship at this point

​@Anders_Lund Yeah I can accept that this takes places after he's promoted to Admiral but before the Battle of Baton from the Thrawn novel. I guess I can also accept that he's been working with Palleon in a secret capacity and outside of his official duties. Especially since talking about the weaknesses of the empire would be considered treasonous so he would work in secret with Palleon

@@kaneunmaskedal it would not be considered treason, thrawn was imperial officer who advised the emperor himself. His opinions about the death star, the Tarkin doctrine, and how imperials operated were well known. Knowing the weakness of the power you serve is vital if you are to serve it well, the only problem is that he was one of the few. Which ultimately lead to the empire surviving in the unknown regions

Retcon.

Guess it’s a retcon, but I imagine that canon still played out, only it wasn’t their first time meeting.

It isn't explained, but I'd imagine it's just a series of transfers. Pellaeon was commanding the Harbinger under Savit by a year before Yavin, but it isn't established that he had never met Thrawn before (at least to the best of my memory). As I recall, Thrawn notes that Pellaeon's first loyalty is to the Empire, even over his commanding officer, which at the time was implied to just be Thrawn being brilliant enough to recognize from simply reading Pellaeon in a single interaction, or possibly seeing his service record, but I actually think it would make more sense for Pellaeon to have served under Thrawn, possibly aboard the Chimaera herself, prior to his promotion to Grand Admiral and maybe for a while after, before being transferred to the Harbinger under Savit and eventually being transferred back to Thrawn's fleet after Savit's treason came to light.

@@forrestpenrod2294books are lame

In my opinion, there's plenty of gaps in the Thrawn novel where this could have happened.

Some people just age better/worse than others

​@@collecter343 Agree like Anakin admiral he was stressed for Anakin dangerous plan and ge ages different. For obi wan i heard that on tatorine (forget how to spell that planet) you age faster that why obi wan was old

5 minutes was all that was needed to show how different he is compared to the rest of the Empire. While others seek glory or destruction, Thrawn sees the bigger picture and truly believes the Empire can bring order

@@JoeFanik It's all true, but still we deserved more of him

I think they are laying the ground work for a larger series arround Thrawn. I think that with the screen time he already got , they saw how much demand is there for him.

@@mowtow90 I hope for it and i wait for it! All hail Grand Admiral Thrawn!

​@@revan4638their not going to do a thrawn series, he's a book character who's in the shows. Just go read his books

I want to know that too. I know at the end of the Ahsoka Serie 5 - 8 Theme at the End this played

Sound track is called thrawns arrival from ahsoka

@@joelbormley7635 close enough

Now is out the soundtrack

@@cristobaltaiba5031 thanks bro

He does indeed. He was substantially different in appearance in Rebels. But I confess I have a hard time choosing between his Rebels look and his look in this.

Different art style Different animation program Younger

@@StuartLugsden Add Rank to the list, he's an Admiral, not an Grand Admiral yet.

@@rafaelnishizumi6330 I wasn't interested in his rank or the color of his uniform. It was his face and head. The head seems shorter, and his face isn't as narrow. And those two bulges on his forehead aren't there now.

They're going for the Clone Wars-style

I would date this interaction at least around ten years after the Clone Wars given Morgan’s age. So between Thrawn’s promotion to commodore and the Battle of Batonn.

Blind anger will do that to someone.

@@karlolson1363 well said. =I

It was the separatist. (Under Palpatine) In fact, Cal's friend and former Nightsister Marin (I think), thought Grievous was a jedi.

First, cope reasoning and real explanation probably just retcon but maybe he worked for Thrawn before being transferred to Savit and Second, was it ever implied Rukh became loyal only after Thrawn became a Grand Admiral?

​@collecter343 no no, Palleon worked with Savit until the events of that book took place. You should give it a read.

@@yourbrothepro Rereading those books now, not there yet but don’t remember them explicitly saying how long he worked for Savit. Oh well, not the first retcon/variation from the books.

No, it wasn't. You miss the point if you think this way.

Media literacy is dead. Bad guys looking cool is the base justification for why you think this way.

Imo the morgan elsbeth one was interesting, but it wasnt ultimately satisfying. Baris stuff was just so short and was rushed. Needed at least another 2 episodes i think

If she knew, she wouldn’t be with the empire right now

Or it’s just poor writing lol

@@N7gamer1337 why do you always blame everything on poor writing? The writers would definitely not have Morgan side with the empire if she knew that the Empire is partially responsible for the witches’ downfall🤣

Yap yap yap

I’m headcannoning it as Pellaeon being reassigned to Savit for a period. Savit would’ve already been a grand admiral so he would’ve had the authority to poach competent officers for his own fleet.

Timothy Zahn's Thrawn never struck me as being a comprehensive, tight chronological account of Thrawn's rise through the Imperial ranks. There's plenty of areas and room for other things to have occurred.

Brother, those novels have been deemed un canon since 2015. You're a bit behind.

@@corpyhogan4433 hes talking about the canon novels. Do some damn research. hes not taalking about hier to the empire.