Moritz Seider is already a No. 1 defenceman, and he's only getting better 

What was he like?

Ich kenne ihn zwar nicht privat aber kenne ihn auch seit Mannheim Zeiten da ich ein Mannheim Fan bin und dass das aus ihm geworden ist macht mich auch stolz

He has a long time to go before an all time great. Id say three Norris and 700+ pts and a few cups to be an all time great

I claim this 🙌🏼

He could die or get seriously injured too Can't play time machine without factoring in bad fates as well

Very impressing analysis. Thanks for that. Mo Seider is a real Red Wings Gift and is still improving as a player and as a teammate. Keep on following!

@@matthewsinstagramposts8023 That’s kinda morbid haha

We miss him here in Mannheim as well.

@@meister1176 und wie

@@janbellemann5691 he played for Addler Manheim before being drafted by the wings

@@janbellemann5691 naja, aber dafür ab Freitag wieder mit Zuschauern in der SAP Arena. Wooohooo

Yes, we miss him. But Kenny Jönsson leaving NY-Islanders in his prime years winning best defensive man in Olympics coming from Rögle BK in Allsvenskan, second league in Sweden, is hard to beat when it comes to best Rögle-player all time.

Probably the best pick of the last decade, late-round steals excepted. Not just because of how good he is, but because it was a supposed "reach" that hit. Lots of people (me included) want to freak out when teams take players high, but they generally know a lot more about a player's makeup and ability to improve than the public sphere. Add in that fact that Detroit's system/structure has completely changed since the pick, and it's clear there was a level of foresight when making that decision. They picked the perfect player for a style of hockey they weren't playing yet, but we're planning on it. Awesome stuff.

@@mitchellbrown2303 i dont know if you Northern Europeans follow the IIHF World Championships a lot, but seeing Seider at the 2019 WC at that young age was pretty impressing. Didnt saw THAT coming, but back then I felt his MOCK Draft results were a bit too bad

@@mitchellbrown2303 that „best dark horse late pick“ has to be Datsyuk. Nobody saw his potential and he developed into one of the most complete players in the league.

Imagine if cholo turned out good too

Don't forget the studs Johansson and Wallinder as well.... Not a bad top 4 there.

@@TheJohannesE Antti Tuomisto is an interesting one as well . . .

@@DETisHockeytown Yes thats true. I have gotten My eyes more and more open for him. He could be great 👍

I say sign Lindholm and place him with Seider and put Edvinsson with a stable rhd so he can play his creative style without being placed with a defensive black hole like Hronek

Also SHL is a more defensive league than other leagues especially compared to other leagues in Europe.

@@pickboaa Rögle BK had a quite easy break out system from defensive zone. Seider lead the best defensive setup Rögle BK ever had. Dominant defensively and great on the offence.

They have tried to, but they always end of flat on the ice. Just check out his reverse hit from not too long ago.

It took me everything to not include a 20-minute addendum of him clowning on star players and throwing reverse hits. And I have a tough time believing that his physical game and strength are going to do anything other than improve even more.

Unless one of those guys like zegras can turn into a machine, he’s definitely winning it

He did 🏆

YES

He’s 100% on that level. The Norris trophy has become a joke tho so whatever

I would, no way he's getting close with the seasons Makar, Hedman, Fox, and Ekblad are having.

@@Hotdawgfilms because its an offense first trophy now. Hedman was a finalist last year, and the team was better with him on the bench than the ice. The Norris is a joke of a trophy now

@@monstajd Hedman, Fox, Makar, and Ekblad are monsters this year on both offense and defense. Hedman's defensive play last year is exactly why he didn't win. The Norris hasn't gone to the defenseman with the most points in 5 years.

@@monstajd It's also very very hard to win your first Norris trophy. Once you have the first one they come easier. Just look at Lidstrom. He should have gotten the Norris trophy 2-3 times before he actually won his first one. Once he got it the flood gates opened and I would argue a couple of them should have gone to others.

Just think how much better he’ll be when not paired with Danny Dekeyser. I think they’d split him and edvinson on different pairs but even someone halfway competent will go a long way

Exactly. Once they bring in edvinson or even sebrango, Johansson, wallinder, whoever from their pipeline; mo’s play will open up even more

@@tomdower6668 No Yzerman picked Edvisison strictly to pair with Seidar. Opposite hand, there play styles mech so well. Will be best two defensemen in the league in three years.

Saw him play several times in Grand Rapids, can’t believe people criticized this draft pick

Can't wait to see the Edvinsson-Seider pairing making NHL forecheckers like they're playing Jr. B. Albert Johansson is going to be a good one, too. We (EliteProspects) had him ranked a top-50 prospect entering the season, and he's even better now. Lots of similar stuff to Seider, just at a lower level: activation, killing rushes, handling skill and patience. Should be a staple on the second pairing soon.

REAL SANDPAPER? Can you elaborate?

Konstantinov is who he reminds me of the most.

Gotta be honest I don't think he's much like Lidstrom at all lol

Let's calm down there buddy. He's an amazing player and by far my favorite mostly because everyone doubted him. Let's not compare him the the GOAT of defense though.

@@dukeford8893 He's rough and tough and he takes no guff!

Edvinsson will be better than decent and as an offensive defensemen will be a perfect fit as LD to Seider. Future is bright

More like the next Bobby Orr

@@ObiWannaBrick31 more like you don't know what the hell you're talking about. Sieders ceiling is high, when he wins the Norris next season or the season after that, the bitterness you have towards him only will increase 10 fold. That makes me happy.

@@stopdroolin8418 🥰

Also didn't mention Rögle BK's staff, GR, Adler Mannheim, and his int'l and off-season coaches. Development's a full team effort, and Seider and Detroit really did an amazing job here.

'23/'24 season 1st playoff appearance

Tbh Seider is way better than what Hedman was at that age. Seider was among the best rookies the SHL has ever seen. Up there with Forsberg, Pettersson and the Sedin twins.

For sure, Mo and Leddy were a top pair! The top PP is already pretty deadly. We aren't running 2 D on PP1 so Edvinsson won't help in that regard, but I am excited for the future of this team!

@@first_last- cute been a fan what 15 years tops 🤣

@@first_last- The only reason i can see them both of a unit together would be to put Mo on the left half wall kind of like a Hronek roll because i personally see Mo better suited for that than Hronek already. Of course he wouldn't be exclusively taking over half wall duties. Half walls and points tend to switch off often on good powerplays, having two pp qbs on one pp switching off and garnering new looks would be deadly. I think it could be something that could be used here and there to generate some good offense. But for now I still have Mo as pp qb #1 for the forseeable future. He's just too good at it.

and not a douchbag

No defensemen will ever be better than Lidstrom in the history of the sport. They called him Mr. Perfect for a reason, literally never out of position and won 7 Norris' (second most to Orr), 4 Stanley Cup's and 1 Conn Smythe.

@@T-Will-4554 Lidstrom was very good but this kid has more skill then him! Did Lidstrom win the calder?

@@erabbitgamingofficial1 Skill is far less important than being one of the best shutdown defensemen of all time. Lidstrom easily should’ve won the Calder, he finished 2nd to Pavel Bure with the same amount of points. Let’s see if Seider can win even half as many Norris’s as Lidstrom

@@nrmproductions1150 He will, and he'll score more points in his career. He's that good.

You again I see you on every red wings video I click on.

No way. Top 20 at best

@@ObiWannaBrick31 sad little troll

@@ObiWannaBrick31 shut the fuck up. Who's your favorite player? Yeah sieders denied whoever it is forsure. Sieder and Edvinsson will be a top 5 defensive pair in the league next season. Wait til they're full developed... Best defensive pair in the league hands down.

@@wantsome-zs5sq and Is that forbidden or something like that ? 🤔

So he's doing it better now in the NHL than when he was in the Shl, what kind of point... are you trying to make dummy...

Your complimenting his game but actually trying to discredit him in some way is what it seems like. Delusional. I don't have time for people like you, I'm out.

@@stopdroolin8418 I an not discrediting it in any way. Rather my point is that he had some of his skills even before but some of it doesn’t fit the SHL playstyle. Now being in the NHL has of course helped him develop

@@stopdroolin8418 That is entirely YOUR interpretation of my words. If anything I was critizing the creator of the video for not taking it into consideration.

YUP !

He'll make 50 mil on his next contract if he keeps going like this! 6M+ x 8 years seems like a good bet..

The term "number one defenseman" isn't normally used to mean the best defenseman in the league (although the Norris winner would be a number one defenseman). It's used on more of a franchise-wise basis. Refers to that elite defenseman that a team can lean on in all situations on the back end, whether it be quarterbacking the powerplay, playing on the PK, etc., and they do that at an extremely high level. In that sense, Cale Makar is a number one defenseman. As are Roman Josi, Victor Hedman, Erik Karlsson (in his prime), Adam Fox, Charlie McAvoy, Aaron Ekblad. There's usually only a small handful of true 1Ds at any time in the league. Mitch is saying that Seider is becoming/has become that for Detroit.

@captbloodbeard - Are you sure you're not wanting too much?...for one who gave nothing. Do you really think that "please" is a magic word?...and by using it, you will get your request. If you cannot overlook simple, meaningless things...life's got a few knuckleballs for you man-child. Don't be critical of the meaningless things in life. There are more important issues that need attention. "I just want..." What does it feel like, to want?